MR2 Spyder with a 2zz swap and turbo!!!! [Archive]

FLO

05-07-2002, 12:36 PM

Very nice!

http://www.rojaengineering.com/RO_JA/pics/mr2/mr2_splash01.jpg

Engine:2ZZ-GTE Motor Swap Toyota Jusko Engineering Designed, Pistons 11:0:1 JE 10:0:1 COMPRESSION, Rods Oliver, Head Work AEBS, Valve train Del West, Turbo HKS GT2540, Manifold NU Formz Custom 4 to , Intake INJEN, Exhaust Veilside Dual Outlet Stainless Center Exhaust

Suspension: RE Works Z Two Sport Suspension Springs, Re Works Stainless Steel Triangulated, Stoptech 355mm rotors w/ 4 piston calipers,

Wheels and Tires: RO_JA motegi: Prototype Forged F: 19x8: 45mm R: 19x10: 2mm, Pirelli Tires P7000 F: 215/35/19 R: 265/30/19

Interior: : 2 MOMO Composite Racing Seats, MOMO Steering Wheel, MOMO Shift Knob

Exterior: Wide Body Kit Veilside Full Body Replacement, Custom Yellow Pearl Paint by Body Pros, Vinyl Graphics by ADM Graphics Custom, Detailing by Meguiars, Facilitated by Innovative

Check it out www.rojaengineering.com

AkUmA

05-07-2002, 12:46 PM

WOW! thats cool. i like the nsx also!!:AF: :bowdown: :eek:

the s2000 is sweet!!! the rs-x looks bada$$ too.

00CericaRuss

05-07-2002, 12:56 PM

i'd like a 2zz-gte!

djm221

05-07-2002, 01:11 PM

[Homer Simpson voice] Mmmmmm.... turbo charged 2ZZ spyder...[/Homer Simpson voice]

So when is more info gonna leak out about this apparently finished project?

dsquared

05-07-2002, 01:29 PM

saaaaaawwweeeeetttt!!!!

:thumbup: :thumbup:

xi KiNG ix

05-07-2002, 02:08 PM

the s2k on that site looks hella pimp :bowdown:

Vroom_Vroom

05-07-2002, 02:46 PM

as i replied earlier in MSR27's post about the HIN pics ..there is no such thing as a 2zzg"T"e motor..unless they think that adding the "t" in their is for turbo...its a nice lookin car!!! damn imagine the 1/4 times on that rwd..weight reduction..turbo...and the 2ZZ in it! i envy those with money

ArchangelX

05-07-2002, 04:42 PM

I'm in love..that car (if a little impractical) is tight!!!

CelicaLicious

05-07-2002, 05:43 PM

hmm.. well one would think that if you have a 2zz motor turboed while everyone else is still trying you would want to show pictures of the damn engine bay!!

aZnTrD2k

05-07-2002, 07:28 PM

i wish i can be like RJ so that I can have those cars....

larryd

05-08-2002, 02:05 AM

god i think im in love.. that thing is beautiful

kuno

05-08-2002, 05:56 AM

Damn, which one is is daily driver :|

jotan82

05-08-2002, 06:08 AM

that car is crazy....

more pix of this car can be seen at

www.allshowimports.com

it was the featured ride in march...

that roja spyder won best of show in teammeguairs.com show off many times...

that car is crazy

Keyshawn

05-08-2002, 07:04 AM

That car looks tight, but how come there are never any pics of the engine bay?

NSX_GTR_LM

05-08-2002, 07:19 AM

i have a question though, why the hell did they change to a 2zz, and then lower the compression to 10:1. They could have just done the engine work on the 1zz. Does anyone know why

icyjaws

05-08-2002, 07:39 AM

Prolly cause of the better r/s ratio, cylinder walls, and oh yea the head :)

Keyshawn

05-08-2002, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by NSX_GTR_LM
i have a question though, why the hell did they change to a 2zz, and then lower the compression to 10:1. They could have just done the engine work on the 1zz. Does anyone know why

Good point. If they dropped compression, you figure they'd at least drop it to 9.5:1. However, LOTS of showcars do impractical things like this just to be different. Another explanation is that their webmaster simply doesn't know anything about cars and called it a 2zz by mistake.

jotan82

05-08-2002, 08:00 AM

ever heard of 2zz lift ?

NSX_GTR_LM

05-08-2002, 08:13 AM

regardless of lift, i think keyshawn is right. You dont need lift if you are runnin mad boost with low compression.

NSX_GTR_LM

05-08-2002, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by icyjaws
Prolly cause of the better r/s ratio, cylinder walls, and oh yea the head :)

And i still think that with just the cost of the engine, let alone the swap PLUS engine work, they could have made the 1zz alot better. Regardless, thats alot of power for a spyder, and i hope it never gets driven in the canyons :)

Pure Racer

05-08-2002, 09:47 AM

Mmm, Veilside body kit on S2000:thumbup:

pj808

05-08-2002, 11:00 AM

The 2ZZ GE also has oil squirters for each piston to keep the top of the piston cool..helps prevent detonation which could be a problem. :-)
pj

veilside02celi

05-08-2002, 11:33 AM

looks like RJ has done it again! this guy has the resources also helps to know this guy (mr. Veilside himself) :D http://www.importstreetscene.com/iss/events/IAS_04.22.02/097.jpg

... here is a pic of our Auto-Customs.com sponsered Veilside Mr2 Widebody Spyder... Top Secret Japan / Trust Turbo has arrived! install coming soon!

http://www.ukwildcatz.com/pics/DSCN0250.JPG

http://www.ukwildcatz.com/pics/DSCN0251.JPG

http://www.ukwildcatz.com/pics/DSCN0252.JPG

veilside02celi

05-08-2002, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Keyshawn
That car looks tight, but how come there are never any pics of the engine bay?

here you go, i may be wrong here but this looks like the Veilside Turbo for the MRS, if that is true its a 1ZZ unless its a different kit or RJ had something fabricated...

http://www.importstreetscene.com/iss/events/IAS_04.22.02/095.jpg

http://www.importstreetscene.com/iss/events/IAS_04.22.02/096.jpg

t2000gts

05-08-2002, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by NSX_GTR_LM
regardless of lift, i think keyshawn is right. You dont need lift if you are runnin mad boost with low compression.

then why run mad boost? just run low boost on high compression and get the same power numbers.

lift = aggressive cam profile = more air

also, the timing maps for 6000+rpm are aggressive, and they aren't aggressive for under 6000rpm. you need to do some serious remapping to make power without lift.

jotan82

05-08-2002, 11:59 AM

damn that's tite :eek:

i love that veilside kit for the MRS

AkUmA

05-08-2002, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by veilside02celi
looks like RJ has done it again! this guy has the resources also helps to know this guy (mr. Veilside himself) :D http://www.importstreetscene.com/iss/events/IAS_04.22.02/097.jpg

... here is a pic of our Auto-Customs.com sponsered Veilside Mr2 Widebody Spyder... Top Secret Japan / Trust Turbo has arrived! install coming soon!

http://www.ukwildcatz.com/pics/DSCN0250.JPG

http://www.ukwildcatz.com/pics/DSCN0251.JPG

http://www.ukwildcatz.com/pics/DSCN0252.JPG

OMG!!!:bowdown: thats so nice looking. imo:thumbup:

Da Kine Guy

05-08-2002, 02:17 PM

2zz has the toyota GE head as well, its designed for higher performance then the FE head. As for the 2zz-gte, we're just mucking with toyota engine codes. Turbo'd 3s-ge is the 3s-gte, turbo'd 7m-ge is the 7m-gte, turbo'd 2jz-ge is the 2jz-gte, get my drift? Sure, there's is no 2zz-gte that comes from the factory, but slap an aftermarket turbo on there and you could definately call your engine a 2zz-gte. Plus, is it really that big a deal? Are you gonna call me for it if I preferred to call my engine "Cindy" or "Butta Cakes"?

slapshot

05-08-2002, 02:50 PM

nice rides!!!

Vroom_Vroom

05-08-2002, 03:20 PM

damn its fuggin nice!!!! it looks like a porsche!

iNteGraz92

05-08-2002, 11:40 PM

http://www.ukwildcatz.com/pics/DSCN0250.JPG
http://newcelica.org/forums/images/smilies/bowdown.gif

larryd

05-09-2002, 04:03 AM

god, thats enuf to make me think about trading :)

veilside02celi

05-09-2002, 05:15 AM

Got a NSX? haha he has issues with them.. i'm sure he'd trade if you had a clean one haha

Griffin

05-09-2002, 09:31 AM

Just a point of interest about that yellow mister 2.

Thats a 1ZZ-FE NOT a 2ZZ-GE

I know the guy that owns the car. He WAS considering the 2ZZ-GE but decided not to do it because it was going to be too much of a pain in the arse trying to fab up new shift cables for the C60 Trans and the C59 bell housing won't mate up with a 2ZZ block. I told him he should put a 3S-GTE in it but I think he decided that would be too much re-fab as well. The turbo on the 1ZZ was a nice clean elegant solution

Come to think of it I don't know anyone thats managed to successfully turbo or supercharge a 2ZZ and get any kind of power - its just too hard to work your way around the engine logic running the VVTLi

Griffin

Vroom_Vroom

05-09-2002, 06:11 PM

i cream my pants whenever i see that gunmetal mr-s:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

aZnTrD2k

05-15-2002, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by Griffin
Just a point of interest about that yellow mister 2.

Thats a 1ZZ-FE NOT a 2ZZ-GE

I know the guy that owns the car. He WAS considering the 2ZZ-GE but decided not to do it because it was going to be too much of a pain in the arse trying to fab up new shift cables for the C60 Trans and the C59 bell housing won't mate up with a 2ZZ block. I told him he should put a 3S-GTE in it but I think he decided that would be too much re-fab as well. The turbo on the 1ZZ was a nice clean elegant solution

Come to think of it I don't know anyone thats managed to successfully turbo or supercharge a 2ZZ and get any kind of power - its just too hard to work your way around the engine logic running the VVTLi

Griffin

I got email from teh RO_JA guys and they told me that the car's(yellow MR2) running 280++hp and 260++lbs/torque. I asked him if they can fabricate that turbo they used on a Celica GT....no response yet

GTS LAID

05-15-2002, 11:21 PM

jesus what a beauty... serious trade in considerations... that car befits a james bond movie...

DaksGT

05-15-2002, 11:24 PM

GTS LAID

05-15-2002, 11:30 PM

Dude i'm afraid to say things these days cause i dont want to get owned by Griffin... Just kidding.. hes an AWESOME source of information.. the guy just knows so god damn much and i'm quickly learning A LOT from him...

larryd

05-15-2002, 11:53 PM

god everytime i go back to look at that car im more impressed.. both of em are soo hot

Griffin

05-16-2002, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by aZnTrD2k

I got email from teh RO_JA guys and they told me that the car's(yellow MR2) running 280++hp and 260++lbs/torque. I asked him if they can fabricate that turbo they used on a Celica GT....no response yet

Yup thats what they told me too. Haven't seen it in person since the swap though. Thats a lotta ponies for a car that light, I gotta think shes amazing to drive.

Griffin

Griffin

05-16-2002, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by GTS LAID
Dude i'm afraid to say things these days cause i dont want to get owned by Griffin... Just kidding.. hes an AWESOME source of information.. the guy just knows so god damn much and i'm quickly learning A LOT from him...

ahhh sheet - I was afraid this would happen :) Not trying to be rude just trying to make sure everyone has their facts straight - If y'all want I can stop correcting people when they say stuff thats incorrect.... I'm honestly just trying to be helpful.

Griffin

aZnTrD2k

05-16-2002, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Griffin

Yup thats what they told me too. Haven't seen it in person since the swap though. Thats a lotta ponies for a car that light, I gotta think shes amazing to drive.

Griffin

Swap?! So theyre using the 2ZZ now? I thought theyre still using the stock one, I got that info from Anthony last week.

pj808

05-16-2002, 10:50 AM

There's more to a GTE engine then just slapping on a turbo to a GE engine. Look at the 7MGE and the 7MGTE for instance.
pj

DaksGT

05-16-2002, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Griffin

ahhh sheet - I was afraid this would happen :) Not trying to be rude just trying to make sure everyone has their facts straight - If y'all want I can stop correcting people when they say stuff thats incorrect.... I'm honestly just trying to be helpful.

Griffin
Don't stop, I love reading your posts yours and Scott's, makes me feel like I'm back in grade 1.

GTS LAID

05-16-2002, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Griffin

ahhh sheet - I was afraid this would happen :) Not trying to be rude just trying to make sure everyone has their facts straight - If y'all want I can stop correcting people when they say stuff thats incorrect.... I'm honestly just trying to be helpful.

Griffin

ya are you crazy... no one wants you to stop... you can get really violent if you want too... say really bad things... tell us we dont know sh!t from shat... just keep feeding us the info... its addictive.

Griffin

05-16-2002, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by aZnTrD2k

Swap?! So theyre using the 2ZZ now? I thought theyre still using the stock one, I got that info from Anthony last week.

No no no... grinss I shouldn't have said swap - I just meant since they dropped the turbo in. Its definitely a 1ZZ still. Sorry :)

Griffin

Griffin

05-16-2002, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by pj808
There's more to a GTE engine then just slapping on a turbo to a GE engine. Look at the 7MGE and the 7MGTE for instance.
pj

Totally true. For one thing the bottom end on the GTE motors are usually HELLA stout.

Griffin

aZnTrD2k

05-16-2002, 09:51 PM

The turbo theyre using is freaking expensive too...$11000

the car will be featured in super street in a month or 2. Can't wait :D

veilside02celi

05-17-2002, 05:57 AM

this is everything you get with the kit...

HKS GT2540R Turbine Actuator
VeilSide Exhaust Manifold
VeilSide Pro Drag Muffler
Muffler Adaptor
Turbine Oil Inlet Line (Earls)
Turbine Oil Outlet Line (Earls)
Oil Pan Processing
Extension Kit
F Con V pro
Harness for F Con Vpro
Pressure Sensor
Intake Temperature Sensor
Harness for Pressure Sensor and Intake Temperature Sensor EVC
VeilSide Intercooler Kit
HKS Racing Blow off Valve
Super Fire Racing Plug x4
SARD INjector 530ccx4
HKS Super Power Flow 200-100 pie
VeilSide Suction Pipe for HKS Super Power Flow 200-70 pie

PRICE: $12,450.00??? <--- not sure on that

Power Output is in the 270Hp range

larryd

05-17-2002, 12:38 PM

wow.. thats expensive :)

veilside02celi

05-17-2002, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by larryd
wow.. thats expensive :)

yeah just a tad... haha.. not knocking veilside , dont get me wrong there kit looks awesome, i mean check out that manifold..but i'd much rather get the Top Secret Japan kit and purchase the HKS FCON V Pro myself, and use a spearco core for a custom intercooler. save you at leave 3-4K. just a thought

1200TT

05-17-2002, 10:02 PM

U could buy an FCON V Pro, but who's goin to program it for you? No one in the US has the true capabilities yet.

Maelfyn

05-18-2002, 02:10 AM

The T in the Toyota engine name quite literally means turbo charged. I see nothing wrong with calling it a 2zz-gte, 1zz-fte, etc

larryd

05-18-2002, 08:08 PM

that also doenst inclue making the car look the way it looks right? the widebody kit and wheels etc etc

veilside02celi

05-19-2002, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by 1200TT
U could buy an FCON V Pro, but who's goin to program it for you? No one in the US has the true capabilities yet.

corret me if i'm wrong here but doesnt SP Engineering have the ability to tune the HKS FCON VPRO?

1200TT

05-20-2002, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by veilside02celi

corret me if i'm wrong here but doesnt SP Engineering have the ability to tune the HKS FCON VPRO?

they're still waiting to be trained by HKS.