Tein Basic or Tein SS?

[Jintei]

Hi,

I'm planning on switching to coilover next year, possibly Tein SS or Basic.
I've done quite a few researches, but I can't find the answer to these questions:
1. Can anyone tell me which coilover works the best?
2. I often hear people saying that SS is better than the Basic one, but in what way?
3. Is the Basic one doesn't give too much satisfaction for say, a daily driver? Does it handle okay? How much difference compared to SS?
4. If you reccommend the SS, should I go w/ pillow mount or w/o? What's the difference between them (w/ or w/o pillow mount)?
5. Does the SS come with EDFC as a whole package?
6. Finally, where can I get one for cheapest price? For example, in socal?

Thanks,
David :wave:

[Rico6983]

The SSP comes with height and damper adjustablility, with also option for upper pillowball mounts (which you should get). The EDFC is used to adjust the dampering but is sold separate. The basics is good, but is only height adjustable.

[Jintei]

Thanks, Rico. Anybody?

[lpphreakx06]

what up man. uhmm pretty much everything rico said. But you said you wanted a daily driver friendly coilover? If thats the case then I would just go basic. But having the black edfc in your interior is way cooler lol. It's up to you and your wallet. For a place to buy them, I would either check the group purchases or from our site sponsers. You can save on shipping and pick up too. :D

[D_CeLiRaToR]

i have the basics. it's a pretty good compromise between track stiffness and bumpy road softness. still way better handling than stock and go pretty low too. unless you race, you will be more than happy with the basics.

[SLVR Stealth]

^^^ Basics will do the job. You don't need the SS they just have 16 way dampening. The top part of the rotating adjustment knob tends to get stripped from my experience I have Tein on all 3 of our cars 2002 Accord SS, 05 Accord SS-P's and, Basics for the Celica. Mine had fell apart on my first set of SS-P's because I accidently overturned them and they no longer adjusted at a certain point they others just started spinning what a pain in the butt the top plate I sold seperately. Anyway, Tein Basic Damper is good enough for daily use as the SS and SS-P's have not been bullet proofed at those knobs on top as they should not go past a certain rotation. You can feel when they stop but it's real easy to over turn them.

I went and bought some decent basics afterwards and was still able to incorporate my Hotchkis camber plates they work like a charm. Ride quality is so much better it's pretty stiff then any spring/strut setup not soft or harsh "like a donkey that kicks you in the butt" and they don't bounce.

You don't need that fancy EDFC stuff unless you track your Celica or have a show car. It's useless and for the extra cost save it towards something else it's more of a show piece the Basics will get you around perfectly. You can get the SS but again be careful when you click the rotating knob because trust me they are fragile and if you overturn it you screw it up entirely and then you have to take it back to Tein.

I believe 8 clicks is normal daily driving well that's what I was setting mine what was everyone else setting to? I know the SS are only a couple hundred more and you can't use the fancy EDFC controller for them and you need to make rear access to the back so you can adjust them easier some people just cut the plastics or remove them completely out for more adjustability.

Get the basics they range around $700.00-$1200.00 new depending where you get them from and they come with aftermarket endlinks for the front the rear you will need to buy somewhere else.

SS range about $1000.00-$1500.00 and
SS-P's add 200-300 to the SS price.

They are great for daily driving conditions. I drive on 19x8.5's and 19's x10's and it feels like I'm driving on 17's with Basics. Awhile back with my TRD struts and Hotchkis Springs I would feel every little bump and crack in the road it was pretty horrible. Good luck. You can't go wrong they all work great.

[LightningRod]

I would just stick with the Basics. They're around $800 the last time I checked, which is actually not bad at all, compared with the prices of other coilover setups, and the Teins will do just as good of a job as the rest. It's the most cost-effective solution IMHO, and I'm planning to get these in the near future as well.

[Jintei]

what up man. uhmm pretty much everything rico said. But you said you wanted a daily driver friendly coilover? If thats the case then I would just go basic. But having the black edfc in your interior is way cooler lol. It's up to you and your wallet. For a place to buy them, I would either check the group purchases or from our site sponsers. You can save on shipping and pick up too. :D

Thanks, lpphreakx06! :)

[Jintei]

i have the basics. it's a pretty good compromise between track stiffness and bumpy road softness. still way better handling than stock and go pretty low too. unless you race, you will be more than happy with the basics.

Thanks, man! It's nice to hear your experience with the Basic one. I'll go Basic!

[Reyzin]

Pillowballs are a must if you want EDFC. If you get the ones without then decide you want EDFC later, you have to buy new coilovers. It's not listed in their catalog that they sell just the pillowballs.

[Jintei]

^^^ Basics will do the job. You don't need the SS they just have 16 way dampening. The top part of the rotating adjustment knob tends to get stripped from my experience I have Tein on all 3 of our cars 2002 Accord SS, 05 Accord SS-P's and, Basics for the Celica. Mine had fell apart on my first set of SS-P's because I accidently overturned them and they no longer adjusted at a certain point they others just started spinning what a pain in the butt the top plate I sold seperately. Anyway, Tein Basic Damper is good enough for daily use as the SS and SS-P's have not been bullet proofed at those knobs on top as they should not go past a certain rotation. You can feel when they stop but it's real easy to over turn them.

I went and bought some decent basics afterwards and was still able to incorporate my Hotchkis camber plates they work like a charm. Ride quality is so much better it's pretty stiff then any spring/strut setup not soft or harsh "like a donkey that kicks you in the butt" and they don't bounce.

You don't need that fancy EDFC stuff unless you track your Celica or have a show car. It's useless and for the extra cost save it towards something else it's more of a show piece the Basics will get you around perfectly. You can get the SS but again be careful when you click the rotating knob because trust me they are fragile and if you overturn it you screw it up entirely and then you have to take it back to Tein.

I believe 8 clicks is normal daily driving well that's what I was setting mine what was everyone else setting to? I know the SS are only a couple hundred more and you can't use the fancy EDFC controller for them and you need to make rear access to the back so you can adjust them easier some people just cut the plastics or remove them completely out for more adjustability.

Get the basics they range around $700.00-$1200.00 new depending where you get them from and they come with aftermarket endlinks for the front the rear you will need to buy somewhere else.

SS range about $1000.00-$1500.00 and
SS-P's add 200-300 to the SS price.

They are great for daily driving conditions. I drive on 19x8.5's and 19's x10's and it feels like I'm driving on 17's with Basics. Awhile back with my TRD struts and Hotchkis Springs I would feel every little bump and crack in the road it was pretty horrible. Good luck. You can't go wrong they all work great.

Very detailed and informative as usual....
Thanks, Leica! :thumbup:
Basic ftw!

[Jintei]

I would just stick with the Basics. They're around $800 the last time I checked, which is actually not bad at all, compared with the prices of other coilover setups, and the Teins will do just as good of a job as the rest. It's the most cost-effective solution IMHO, and I'm planning to get these in the near future as well.

Thanks, rod! Yeah, the Basic's price is awesome.
Let's buy the Basic early next year! :thumbup:

[Jintei]

Pillowballs are a must if you want EDFC. If you get the ones without then decide you want EDFC later, you have to buy new coilovers. It's not listed in their catalog that they sell just the pillowballs.

Thanks for the info, Reyzin! :)