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dro04yoo
12-06-2006, 07:38 PM
Has anyone ever considered trading their GT-S for a Honda S2000? I know monthly payments are going to be high, and insurance is going to go up also. The S2000 has been my dream car for a while, and im just wondering if anyone has any pros/cons and opinions of the two cars.

2kSilverBullet
12-06-2006, 07:41 PM
Has anyone ever considered trading their GT-S for a Honda S2000? I know monthly payments are going to be high, and insurance is going to go up also. The S2000 has been my dream car for a while, and im just wondering if anyone has any pros/cons and opinions of the two cars.
If I have the money, I'll do it. Those S2000's are sweet.

lVlemphizStylez
12-06-2006, 09:29 PM
drive one before you trade in your car...Im not too impressed with a car just a tad over 200whp for the 25-30k mark...Honestly feels like any other Honda

CEGONAX-MAN
12-06-2006, 09:32 PM
If it's your dream car and you can afford it, go for it man. It's a good upgrade from a celica. I hate saying that? :wiggle:

JOHN_B
12-06-2006, 09:33 PM
drive one before you trade in your car...Im not too impressed with a car just a tad over 200whp for the 25-30k mark...Honestly feels like any other Honda


S2000 are cheap nowadays... Lowest, I can get it for 15k with good mileage.
Go for it!. I would if I'm old enough. Insurance is what stopping me.

lVlemphizStylez
12-06-2006, 09:35 PM
thats really bad..seeing as it started out in same price bracket as the 350z...but now can be purchased for 15k...Guess others realized it wasnt fully worth the 25-30k price tag...

JOHN_B
12-06-2006, 09:39 PM
Well, brand new still cost an arm and leg.. A used 2002 (Not sure the best year to get) convertable, the one with a glass window (not plastic) etc.. They usually sell for a reasonable price bwt 14k - 20K.

My bro-in-law just picked up a 2003 350z Performance model for 19k.

There's so many option, just got to shop around.

Acuratuningx16
12-06-2006, 09:41 PM
I Heard The Rod Bearing Can Get Spun Easily On Those With The 9k Redline...one Of My Friends Did It...i Think Its One Of The First Ones With The 2.0 Motor That Did It..idk About The Newer Ones With 2.2..but They Are Nice Cars

lVlemphizStylez
12-06-2006, 09:43 PM
I havent heard of the rod bearings being a problem on the car..A comrade with a 2003 tracks his often with aftermarket cams going to 9k and there isnt any signs of honda gold...

Gas-n-Grease
12-06-2006, 10:28 PM
a prob with rod bearings?! um... NO!

silver21
12-06-2006, 10:56 PM
thats really bad..seeing as it started out in same price bracket as the 350z...but now can be purchased for 15k...Guess others realized it wasnt fully worth the 25-30k price tag...S2K's are very nice cars.... aftermarket is kinda weak/expensive for them but nice cars outta the box.... you can get them fairly cheap now.... but the 03 350Z's are about the same the way they are dropping value also.... my buddies dad pick up an burnt orange or whatever they call there orange for 17k with like 30k on it....

SickCelica696
12-06-2006, 11:03 PM
S2000's suck except for weekend cars. Terrible daily drivers. If this is your only car and you are under 24 your payments and insurance will be not worth it at allllll IMO. Not to mention once you try to start modding it.

Punkers7465
12-06-2006, 11:12 PM
modding is def. possible with s2ks....

not sure what everyone else is refering to but there are some heavily modded s2ks that are out there. Of course a more expensive car does (generally not always) mean more expensive mods. ;)

check this out....
S2000 with 450 rwhp and 265 lb-ft torque (http://www.fast-autos.net/featureCars/11/) :burnout:

Gas-n-Grease
12-07-2006, 12:55 AM
the aftermarket is weak because there isn't too much bolt-ons that can improve the S2000. the car is making 120hp/liter (or 109hp/liter depending what year) outta the box. whatever is bolted on its like trying to squeeze water out of a rock. that leaves force induction to make power improvements.

001s2000
12-07-2006, 02:35 AM
get a 04-05 since 06 is dbw and if you have the 04-05 swap in the 02-03 ecu for a more aggressive ecu type, or do a 00-01 for a richer tune. 00-01 has a few factory defects. IMO the 02-03 is the best year since its the best ecu equiped along with the silver trim, better latches, glass soft top, tranny bug fixed, etc etc a 00 s2k can go for around 13ish, i got mine for 11500 with 76k miles which isnt bad

lVlemphizStylez
12-07-2006, 06:32 AM
S2K's are very nice cars.... aftermarket is kinda weak/expensive for them but nice cars outta the box.... you can get them fairly cheap now.... but the 03 350Z's are about the same the way they are dropping value also.... my buddies dad pick up an burnt orange or whatever they call there orange for 17k with like 30k on it....

eh Id still say the Z is far better bang for the dollar...

marc
12-07-2006, 11:49 AM
there's a world of difference between the 2.0 and 2.2L engines - and the 06+ you can modify the ECU with hondata.

definately better than the GT-S in my opinion.

JiNSoKuBee
12-07-2006, 11:58 AM
s2k are real nice. i test drove one and i was impressed. i drove the z also and i liked the z much better. both nice cars tho.

go drive one and see for yourself. the shifting in a lot smoother in the s2k. handles great in dry land but in the rain it sux ass

lVlemphizStylez
12-07-2006, 12:06 PM
there's a world of difference between the 2.0 and 2.2L engines - and the 06+ you can modify the ECU with hondata.

definately better than the GT-S in my opinion.

you can tune the pre 06's dunno where you got the idea you couldnt...cause I definately tuned a 2003...EMS has been available for them for quite some time

drewd
12-07-2006, 12:13 PM
I might aswell sell my celica and wait for a cheap performance model z...
Had no idea they were going for so cheap

03gts6speed
12-07-2006, 12:36 PM
this is my dilemna coming up during the summertime lol.

WHITEKNIGHT2000
12-07-2006, 01:26 PM
I'd rather get the 350z or a Evo. I'm getting tired of my GTS, no aftermarket for it and it's slow as shyt!!

silver21
12-07-2006, 01:29 PM
I might aswell sell my celica and wait for a cheap performance model z...
Had no idea they were going for so cheap
the interior in the close to base 03ish Z's are EXTREMELY cheap.... my buddies is damn cheap.... even he admits he wishes it was a bit nicer.... still a nice RWD 300hp LSD car with TORQUE!!

silver21
12-07-2006, 01:33 PM
I'd rather get the 350z or a Evo. I'm getting tired of my GTS, no aftermarket for it and it's slow as shyt!!
Not that other cars don't have problems but it seems that the GTS has quite a bit once you beat on them a lil bit lol.... I beat the PISS outta my 1.8T and it never missed a beat.... only problem it had was I fried the clutch once it had double the stock tq (I was waiting for it) and the coils which I got for free and took 5 min to switch out.... kinda wish I woulda held on to it now....

SickCelica696
12-07-2006, 07:09 PM
the aftermarket is weak because there isn't too much bolt-ons that can improve the S2000. the car is making 120hp/liter (or 109hp/liter depending what year) outta the box. whatever is bolted on its like trying to squeeze water out of a rock. that leaves force induction to make power improvements.

Sounds like a 2ZZ. It comes from the factory a high revving beast. There isn't much you can do since it's already so advanced.

marc
12-08-2006, 09:05 AM
you can tune the pre 06's dunno where you got the idea you couldnt...cause I definately tuned a 2003...EMS has been available for them for quite some time

you need the $2000 aem ems or another standalone option to tune the pre06s
the hondata flash is $600

Nasty_impulse
12-08-2006, 10:21 AM
I have an 01 s2k i just bought, other than the plastic window and kinda quirky shifting its a great car.My insurance for full coverage is $145 a month and i'm 20 yrs old with a kinda decent driving record.


Other little things about it, i would go for an AP2 instead of AP1, because the upgraded sound ,engine and glass window are plus's ,but nothing that should sway your decision of you find a good AP1.Wind noise in the cabin can get loud at free speeds, but go drive in an Exige and you'd think it sound peaceful.

lVlemphizStylez
12-08-2006, 10:55 AM
you need the $2000 aem ems or another standalone option to tune the pre06s
the hondata flash is $600

2000 eh?? that sucks you like doubled the price of what it really costs...whyd you do that???

Id spend the extra 400 bucks to have a full standalone over an ECU "reflash"

SickCelica696
12-08-2006, 11:18 AM
you need the $2000 aem ems or another standalone option to tune the pre06s
the hondata flash is $600

2000 eh?? that sucks you like doubled the price of what it really costs...whyd you do that???

Id spend the extra 400 bucks to have a full standalone over an ECU "reflash"

Most EMS's costs $1600 with the viper/evo ones upwards of $2800

lVlemphizStylez
12-08-2006, 11:18 AM
thats nice...But the one purchased was for an even grand.. Brand new..Shipped to the house..We can scan the paypal receipt if youd like

SickCelica696
12-08-2006, 11:24 AM
Good for you. You go do that.

001s2000
12-08-2006, 01:00 PM
thats nice...But the one purchased was for an even grand.. Brand new..Shipped to the house..We can scan the paypal receipt if youd like
are you talking piggy backs or standalone? if its standalone, is it a offbrand or a cheap one? cause the good stuff is pricey, and u cant tune pre 05's with hondata since its NOT DBW 06's are DBW which makes a difference in the ecu. also 06's are equiped with TCS

lVlemphizStylez
12-08-2006, 01:03 PM
aem ems can be purchased for 1000-1200 new...

Nasty_impulse
12-08-2006, 02:08 PM
Where Memphis? Thier Anywhere from $1400-$2000 at most well known sites...most of the guys over at s2ki pay upwards of $1800....a few have gotten deals on used ones at around $1100-$1200. Just know if your looking into getting a real fast s2k prepare to go FI, as the guys running E/I/TP and a Standalone are getting around 20-25hp gains.

lVlemphizStylez
12-08-2006, 02:10 PM
www.ebay.com is where we bought it for the 2003 S2000....Came with all the software and the ecu, instructions, etc

silver21
12-08-2006, 02:22 PM
Sounds like a 2ZZ. It comes from the factory a high revving beast. There isn't much you can do since it's already so advanced.
ehh... I disagree.... there is plenty to gain.... quite significate gains from bolt ons and Pfc tuned.... knocking about a full second off a quarter mile time with just bolt ons is significate to me.....

BuRn1nG
12-09-2006, 10:19 AM
if you dont have a backup car for driving in bad weather. i.e. heavy rain, snow, etc then dony get it. otherwise, its a very nice track car with potential.

Nasty_impulse
12-09-2006, 12:10 PM
I know plenty of guys the DD the s2k all year around in the northern US.

SickCelica696
12-09-2006, 12:22 PM
Yea ebay. Saw that one coming. I know plenty of guys the DD the s2k all year around in the northern US.

Sure you can do it.. but if you have a job or school your backpack takes all your room and it becomes uncomfortable after awhile. Short commutes sure its great

wtcnbrwndo4u
12-09-2006, 12:51 PM
Too small in my opinion, but price to power ratio, it's an amazing deal. I'd just rather have a backseat to throw my stuff in.

sleepy_celi
12-09-2006, 01:38 PM
for some reason, whenever i read all of these threads about people buying other cars, it just makes me love my little old celica (that i used to hate) even more

financially it porbabyl doesn't look like a good idea... but if youre looking for a reason to convince yourself that its a good idea (not that it isnt):

you could look at it as if you modded your celica for all of that money:

-real wheel drive swap
-ecu/i/h/e/tranny (no more ****ty c60)/ put yourself past the 200whp mark swap
-remove back seats (permanently) / lightweight everything swap (you can even keep your jack XD)
-swapped moonroof for convertable



i cant think of anything else

have fun tho

wtcnbrwndo4u
12-09-2006, 01:49 PM
for some reason, whenever i read all of these threads about people buying other cars, it just makes me love my little old celica (that i used to hate) even more

financially it porbabyl doesn't look like a good idea... but if youre looking for a reason to convince yourself that its a good idea (not that it isnt):

you could look at it as if you modded your celica for all of that money:

-real wheel drive swap
-ecu/i/h/e/tranny (no more ****ty c60)/ put yourself past the 200whp mark swap
-remove back seats (permanently) / lightweight everything swap (you can even keep your jack XD)
-swapped moonroof for convertable



i cant think of anything else

have fun tho

Virtually to sum up what he said. You get a lot more performance-sided increase (including weight reduction) for less money.