View Full Version : Skunk Killer broke my car
J3adSeed
05-18-2002, 07:14 PM
First day me and Fin took off work to meet Skunk Killer (angus) at Fin's house at like 1 pm i believe. no word from him until around 7 pm. by this time both of us would have already been home from work, but whatever. he should have called and told us he'd be late, but he's inconsiderate.
Skunk Killer (Angus) broke my car when he was doing my center console. he shorted out a bunch of stuff, and the lights don't work anymore. I let him try and fix it the first night and he couldn't. so he said he'd give me my gauges free and wrote a contract to pay for the repair. he even told me he did this to his car as well and that it would cost about 400 dollars to have fixed at the shop.
the next morning at 8 am i get a call and a message that he will be at my house from miami at 4-5 pm to fix my car. he said he gauranteed he knew the problem could have it fixed in one hour. well, i called him back and told him i worked from 4-9 but if that was the only time i could do it i'd take off work. so i did. he showed up at 10 at night. said traffic was bad, etc. turns out he posted on this board in miami around 430, so he just never cared to leave on time. whatever. so i missed work but hey, i want my car fixed. he said he could fix it.
he tries one thing, not sure what, an hour later it still is broke. so he decides he'll just run a wire to the parking lights and run the leds right from them. well this is unacceptable for me. he said he could fix the car, not just rig to light bulbs to work, i mean i can do that. so i tell him i want it fixed the right way, as thats what he told me he'd to. he said i'd have to take it to a shop and again that he'd pay for the repair.
he thought he knew what was wrong. he said the power going into the board had shorted out. "the wire broke behind the dash so i can't get to it." well i took it to a electrical repair shop for them to look at it, and that was not the problem. so he was way off on what the real problem was anyway. i did not get it fixed as i wanted to get in contact with angus first. i called many times, no answer, i've emailed and gotten no replies for a week now.
i didn't post anything bad on the board about him because i wanted to give him a chance to come through. but he screwed me, so everyone who plans on doing his conversion should know about it. i don't want to see anyone else get screwed. i love my car and i know a lot of you guys do to.
The center console lighting is completely not working. the clock looks teal now (blue lights and tinted glass makes teal). his pics are bull**** they show a nice blue clock, well that'll never happen. turn sigs are also still green. the clock is completely not visible in the day as well as the turn signals. also because the current is different w/ these leds you can barely hear your turn signal clicking noise so in the day, not only can you not see them, but you can't hear them as well.
anyways i just want to warn everyone about this. its not as good as it seems. he charges a lot for being so unprofessional. and if he breaks your gauges you will be out 800-1000 dollars. i would recommend buying the leds from the other guy on this site who is selling them, and then put them in yourself, or pay a local electricial to do it. it will be cheaper, i can almost gaurantee that, and you won't have to worry about getting screwed over by this guy like i did.
sorry for the long post but i just want to share information with everyone and warn everyone. it really sucks to get screwed over. i have spoken to a free lawyer at my school and will be cosidering legal actions.
EndlessShock
05-18-2002, 07:36 PM
Oh man... Im sorry to hear about your center console... I hope everything turns out OK ...
baNanA_ryCe
05-18-2002, 09:39 PM
=(.....he should pay for it....ALL OF IT
swift 21
05-18-2002, 09:47 PM
thanks for the feedback
GT-S Celica
05-18-2002, 09:47 PM
skunk, you need to explain this. wat the hell man? i thought you did this to a lot of different cars? now i'm getting second thoughts about doing this...
soceur
05-18-2002, 09:50 PM
skunk dont worry about coming to europe...ahhh i ahhh have laundry to do. But on the real, you need to fix this guys car, and practice better buisness habits or you'll quickly find yourself without customers.
crusnn2
05-18-2002, 10:42 PM
For everyones info skunk has done alotta guys cars from this area....Ontario Canada. He hasnt ****ed up anyones from up here....the work the guy does is amazing, Everyone makes mistakes and he did try to fix it!
crusnn2
05-18-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by J3adSeed
also because the current is different w/ these leds you can barely hear your turn signal clicking noise so in the day, not only can you not see them, but you can't hear them as well.
Correct me if im wrong but i dont believe you lights are what make the "clicking noise" its the relay that makes the noise?? like i said i may be wrong but this is what i thought??!! I cant hear mine and all he changed on mine was the gas/temp gauges!!
crusnn2
05-18-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by J3adSeed
anyways i just want to warn everyone about this. its not as good as it seems. he charges a lot for being so unprofessional. and if he breaks your gauges you will be out 800-1000 dollars. i would recommend buying the leds from the other guy on this site who is selling them, and then put them in yourself, or pay a local electricial to do it. it will be cheaper, i can almost gaurantee that, and you won't have to worry about getting screwed over by this guy like i did.
I would say from the work he has done on mine he is damn good at what he does....having him do it is a risk you are taking...go ahead and get someone eles who has never done one before and see what happens....whos to say that someone eles isnt gonna **** it up too????? Just because he screwed up one of the many gauges he's done is no reason to try and ruin his business!!!!
Byron
05-18-2002, 10:55 PM
i agree, I would have asked him to do mine too, but there aren't any reverse indiglos for the auto GTS yet... but looking at a few other cars, I'd say its really amazing.
the clock you mentioned, well that will never look as bright as the original. Its not skunk's fault but just rather it is impossible to have it the same brightness because there is another layer of stuff there. and now that you are complaining that they are not bright enough, if you make them more blue by using a deeper blue colored filter, it will be even less bright.
I think i might know why ur clock is teal. open the clock assembly up and check if he really did put a new BLUE led in it... I dunno but from ur description i'm damn sure its just transparent BLUE vinyl he put over the clock lense.
How do i know? because i've tried doing that myself in an attempt to blue out my clock. The green from the clock is not strong enough, it it shows as teal. During the day it insnt visible at all unless ur in a dark shadey area. So yea, go check that out, maybe u could just take off the vinyl and u could atleast have ur clock WORKING again.
oh, and about skunk... That really sucks what he did to u, but i'm really sure he did try to help u fix it. I mean, who wants to be responsible for somebody else's electrical car parts? But didnt u say he signed a contract to fix it?
anyways, good luck man. And i agree that everyone should do their own soldering work, or have an electrician do it. It's super easy, u just got to get the balls to do it.
baNanA_ryCe
05-18-2002, 11:03 PM
hey box...how did you do this?:
http://www.4sided.com/celi/images/guages_LCD.jpg
did you do this yourself with LED's or someone did it?
supercarman
05-18-2002, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Byron
i agree, I would have asked him to do mine too, but there aren't any reverse indiglos for the auto GTS yet... but looking at a few other cars, I'd say its really amazing.
the clock you mentioned, well that will never look as bright as the original. Its not skunk's fault but just rather it is impossible to have it the same brightness because there is another layer of stuff there. and now that you are complaining that they are not bright enough, if you make them more blue by using a deeper blue colored filter, it will be even less bright.
the only way to do it is using the transparent blue vinyl. also i've seen skunk's work in person in many different cars and they all look great, alot of the ones ive seen have been done since december and they're still holding up. so maybe this case is an isolated one.
as for trying to ruin his business, its kind of too late for that since he put the time, effort and money to go through all the trouble of going down to the US expecting people to turn up, but more than half backed out with no notice. ask him what he had to go through on his trip and maybe you'll have some compassion. its not like he broke it and left, he did try to fix it .
Byron
05-18-2002, 11:13 PM
you can't change the led's on the clock because they are not led's. this has been brought up long time ago and someone suggested to use the blue filters. another person even called the manufactuer of the clocks for our cars and see if they have blue ones and they said no.
actually ben, its kindda ironic. Yes i did do those with LED's... that i bought from skunk!
Me and a friend soldered them ourselves. wasnt very hard. It just kindda scared me at first cause i thought i fawked up my guages when the led's didnt go on... Turns out i had them upside down!! DOH! haha but in the end it was all good :)
Byron
05-18-2002, 11:19 PM
and yes, what supercarman said is right. I mean yes, its not quite right that he broke your car... so he should do something about it. but you probably don't know how this whole thing ended up for him either. when he posted up to speculate interest, so many people said "yes" but when he actually invested the money and time to get down there, not even half the people that he expected showed. not to mention all he drove the whole way.
Skunk Killer
05-18-2002, 11:43 PM
WAT DA HELL R U TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!?!
First, I KNEW wat the problem was, and YOU WOULD NOT EVEN LET ME MAKE UR CAR BACK TO HOW IT WAS!!! Just how many conversion I have done ?? You did not even know wat the problem was but kept stopping me while I was doing it!!!of coz u think I don't know what I was doing otherwise u could have done it yourself. WHY DID U LIE TO ME WHEN I FIRST ASKED U IF U HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO THE CENTRE CONSOLE B4 I STARTED?!?! The way u wire ur indiglo gauge and ur custom switches of underglow neon is messy and it even kept flickering.
I SHOWED MY RESPECT and that WAS WHY I rushed bak to ur place TWICE to get the work done. Now u r like my gf blaming me for showing up late. HELLO!!I drove 3500miles there from CANADA. WHY DON'T U TRY TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY UP HERE SEE IF U CAN BE ON TIME!!! Besides, I Knew how to make ur car back to how it was and you would not let me do it, FINE...and u said u wanna get ur car to car shop and get it fixed, fine....and that was why I EVEN SHOWED MY RESPECT by signing a paper saying I will pay for the damage once u get ur car fixed and send me the receipt and gave u all my real information. AND TO MAKE U HAPPY, I have done a fully modded gauge conversion for FREE(US$220)!!!. And u were not even happy about that and YOU EVEN WANTED ME TO LEAVE U DEPOSIT OR EVEN MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER OR A PIECE OF ME when I HAD NO MONEY TO GO BAK TO CANADA!!!
NOW I AM GOING TO HOUSTON TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY SO I CAN PAY FOR IT WHEN I KNEW HOW TO "FIX IT" BUT U WOULDN'T LET ME AND NOW U R EVEN SAYING I AM A LIER AND UNTRUSTABLE?!?!?! JUST ASK AROUND SEE IF ANYONE DID NOT GET LEDs PURCHASED FROM ME!!!ask ANDY(byebyebaby) see how fast he got the LEDs!!!and was there any broken one I EVER sold !!!! if U don't even know a ****, then shut ur mouth up!!!!
I RESPECT U, and that is why I kept silent. I could not believe u've gone too far saying all these sh*t. U know what? DID I SAY I WON'T PAY FOR IT!! BUT U GOTTA SEND ME THE RECEIPT FIRST. (U HAVE NOT EVEN SEND ME THE RECEIPT YET!!) I want all the detail information of the exact problem that problem was, the name of the car shop, the owner of the car shop, contact information, every single detail on the receipt!!! AND SINCE U R NOT HAPPY WITH THE FREE CONVERSION, give me back the gauge work and LEDs.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 12:24 AM
you told me you'd do the gauges for free and pay for repairs. all i wanted was you to stick to you word. thats it. i gave you chances to fix the problem and you couldn't. i wasn't about to let you tie into other parts of my car to try and "rig" a way to get them to light up. especially if that means you could break something else. i emailed and called and had NO RESPONSE. i waited. until i saw you making plans to do other gauges. then when you had the time to start on other people's **** without taking care of mine, thats when i posted what happened with you and me. look, you didn't know what you did to mine, you were WAY OFF. i know that because a place has already looked at it and told me that you were wrong. the only reason you "rushed" back to my place (taking a trip to miami for a day of fun when i offered to go to a shop together to have it fixed, and you refusing, and instead coming back at 10 at night, 5 hours late, is not my definition of "rushing") is so you wouldn't have to pay to have my car fixed the RIGHT WAY. you decided, hey, they're just some LEDs, he won't notice if i just tap a power wire in from the parking lights to power them. thats not fixing what you broke, thats rigging up ****. i asked you, i said, so i'll hear from you by monday. you said yes. well i've called and emailed and you've ignored me. you told me you'd have the money when you got back, that you couldn't pay me right then or give me a deposit because your money was in canada. you said you had the money. now you're saying you have to do other cars before you have the money??? you haven't even bothered to find out what the problem is, or how much it costs. also, the stuff i've done to my car is not messy, and **** you for incinuating ****. you're the one who said yourself how impressed you were, also, that you said toyota pulled excuses with you when they broke your car, saying they blamed it on your "messy wiring". i have neons switches in my ash tray, i kept saying i'm amazed they haven't flickerd, because you pulled the console out and were pulling on the wires. the only reason they would have flickered is because you were pulling the wiring on the switches. but they work absolutely fine, and have NOTHING to do with the center console AT ALL.
look, if someone is helping me work on my car, and we break something, then i don't hold them responsible. but when someone is working on my car to make money, to make a profit, then they are responsible for what they break. he broke my car. and even if some of you still don't think he should be responsible, well he then promised to pay for the repairs. when you do that you better be true to your word. i'd never screw someone over on something like this and i'd want the same in return. he'll do the same to any of you. it doesn't matter now, i will be contacting my lawyer and having this taken care of.
MR2 Quik
05-19-2002, 12:25 AM
You drove 3500 miles to install those gauges?!?:AF: Why couldnt he have someone else do that? Well, it was a one sided story and now you are saying that you would pay for things. I guess there is no problems as long as you do.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 12:31 AM
the only problem is, he's a liar. SKUNK, DID YOU BREAK YOUR CAR THE SAME WAY YOUR BROKE MINE???? YES OR NO. YOU SAID YOU DID. if you couldn't fix YOUR car, and took it to a shop to have it fixed, then how the **** can you say you could fix mine???? you couldn't! you could only rig it, and potentially make it worse. (not even to mention, you were wrong about what was really broken). i only want for my car, the same thing you wanted for your car. to be fixed right. by a repair shop who knows what they're doing. you promised to pay for repairs, and you haven't responded to my emails or answered my calls. thats bad business. i would NEVER trust someone like you to touch my car.
MR2 Quik
05-19-2002, 12:33 AM
Well, looks like you have learned a valuable lesson. Never let anyone work on your car. I have learned my lesson the hard way afte I spent $14k trying to fix it and 500 miles later it had another lown HG. Hopefully you can get the $$ you spent for the repairs, and chalk it up to a lesson learned.
Just be lucky you are getting the $$, I'm not:(
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 12:38 AM
well, i'll take him to court, and lose money in expenses. thats fine by me. i'll do it just so he can't get away with it. i just want to warn other people on here about him. there's nothign you can do to protect yourself. even if you have him sign a contract before he starts, there's no guarantee he'll honor it. hey but maybe you can be another plaintiff on my lawsuit.
if anyone else has him break something on their car, email me at J3adSeed@Hotmail.com, maybe i can help you on how to get it fixed and stuff.
Byron
05-19-2002, 12:41 AM
have you mailed him the receipt and documents on the amount of the costs to fix whatever he apparently broke?
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 12:45 AM
apparently broke. dude you act like i'm making this up. anyways, no i haven't. i emailed him, told him i'd be taking it in, and that i wanted to hear back from him to make sure he'd pay for the repairs. that was a week ago, and i've gotten no answer. i've also called him a dozen times, on a cell phone, and every time have gotten no answer. i was waiting to actually pay for the repairs when i knew he'd be paying me back. i mean, you can understand me wanting to hear from the guy once to make sure he's not trying to screw me. i mean, i was nervous because he was being fishy about things from the very beginning.
MR2 Quik
05-19-2002, 12:45 AM
I'm not part of that one. I lost $$ from another reputable shop. They are going to be in big pain when I'm done with them though. Good luck with it. Small claims is the best. No lawyers or big fees.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 12:49 AM
"fishy", like for instance, when he was here, he was saying it was a 400$ repair. so i said, look, give me a 200$ deposit, and we'll sign a contract that if its more you pay me more, if its less i'll give the rest back. he said he had no money at all. he said he could not get into his bank accounts at all because they were canadian. that he had the money but couldn't get to it. can someone from canada tell me if this is true??? he also said he could not use my computer and his credit card to paypal me the money. i gave him ways to do it, and conveniently, the only time he could pay was after he left and already got back to canada. he also couldn't go with me to the shop to have it fixed and just pay it there.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 12:53 AM
and to all of you that say i'm trying to "ruin his business," fine, get your gauges done by him. if you don't want to hear the truth about companies, (or individuals) and what goes on, then be blind to it and just trust you car with them. me, i like to know everything i can about a business or individual before i trust them with my car or my money, and that is why i've posted this, so that people will know beforehand. i mean, thats why i read stuff on here right? so that i know as much info i can about different companies and products, and which are good. i'm trying to help people and not let them get screwed like i did. i was willing to not even tell anyone as long as he fixed the problem, so that his "business" wouldn't be hurt. but he hasn't, so people should know how they will be treated.
Byron
05-19-2002, 12:57 AM
so okay.. are you pissed because he haven't talked to you or that he haven't paid anything yet? I don't see how you can sue him for anything for just not replying to your emails. I mean, from what you said, it seems like you haven't repaired it yet, so how do you expect him to pay you back for repairs that haven't even been made? On the other hand, if you already got the damage fixed, and sent him a bill for it and he did not reimburse you then that would give you good reason to sue him, beat him up whatever. I donno what you have provided him to settle this problem so far, but I would suggest sending him an official estimate from the place you are getting it fixed to him. and when you actually get it fixed, the bill.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 01:00 AM
oh i will byron. like i said, the first time i went to the place was like, this monday or tuesday. i had them look at it and they told me its not a broken power wire. they proved that to me with a test light and volt meter. i will take it back to them when i put back the stock leds and pay them to have it fixed. i will then send him a bill and give him a time period to have the money sent to me. after which time i will sue him.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 01:04 AM
there is no excuse, however, for him to not have emailed me or answered my phone calls. he was avoiding me. its very very obvious he was going to try to run out on this.
but really i'm more worried about him breaking someone else's car. i mean, i paid for this car myself. i work hard for my money and am still in school. i love this car and was willing to pay what i think is a lot of money to have my gauges done right. he broke them and then tried to screw me over on a promise to pay for repairs. i just don't want anyone else getting screwed over, or thinking paying this guy a lot of money to do it is worth it when it'd probably be safer to do it themselves or pay a local electrical shop to do it.
Byron
05-19-2002, 01:05 AM
sounds like a plan...
i donno what exactly is wrong with it, but is it a serious problem? or a minor one glitch? from what you said, that it is not a broken power wire, it doesn't seem like its a serious problem and require a large amount to fix is it??
Byron
05-19-2002, 01:11 AM
but the fact is he admitted to his error and gave you the service he provided free of charge. how did the gauge cluster turn out? did that get phucked up too?
the only problem I see in this is maybe he haven't responded you in a timely manner which escalated the whole problem.
GTS LAID
05-19-2002, 02:21 AM
If its really as bad as you make it out to be then why havent you gotten it repaired yet.. regardless of who's paying...
and it seems from his trip that skunk made NO money on this whole deal... a lot of ppl (including myself) were no shows for whatever reasons and he lost out big time... he might have been avoiding you cause he hasnt made the money yet, he couldve been avoiding you cause he didnt like your attitude (and i can see why) or he could be avoiding you to be an ass... either way you can bitch just cause he didnt email you back... he gave you fair instructions that were clear and explicit:
fix the gauge at a shop, get the shops info, an itemized receipt with the exact problem, and mail him that receipt. And he will send you payment... I dont know how much clearer he can make it really.
you can bitch about him not answering the email, but is that really that big of a deal that you nearly took down his entire reputation??
Brett
05-19-2002, 02:29 AM
Well if hes driving across the US. I think it might be a little hard for him to respond to your emails. Maybe you are being a little unresonable. He clearly said he would pay. You have yet to send him an estimate or a bill. So until then I think you should just chill out. Im sure everything will get settled without having to goto small claims.
DevlynSyde
05-19-2002, 05:20 AM
I agree with GTSLaid, the guy has driven around in an attempt to help Celica owners and himself. Instead, he's added tons of miles to his car and made no money what so ever... doesn't sound like he's doing it for much of a profit to me... Fix it and send him the bill. Until he doesn't pay for it, drop this whole suing topic.
nd4spd 4 a gt-s
05-19-2002, 05:59 AM
this makes no sence. he said he will pay for the damage if you sent him the recipt. have you sent him the recipt? your not giving him a chance to show you he will pay. even if you did send it to him, your sending it to canada. he's not in canada , he's in the US trying to make money. when he gets home he will send the money to you.
stop over re-acting, just calm down and give him some time. go get it fixed and send him everything he needs for he can send you the money he owes you.
LovinDaCamSwitch
05-19-2002, 06:48 AM
From what I'm seeing and hearing on here. I think this problem should be fix. Also Skunk Killer should pay for it. On the other hand, if he doesn't pay the bill. I wonder consider taking him to court then. But make sure you have all your papers and receipts from the dealer or whoever is fixing it. Also hold on to that contract from you and Skunk killer had sign. Just have all the info and copy it, to have it in file. Once you get the bill from the repair. Have that person who repair it, and give a written rerport of the problem of what happen to the car. Don't just give the bill to skunk killer. Make sure you have copies of it. You must have all that info. Trust me!!
Dan
PS. Sorry what happen to your car. I been there with my last car on a transmission deal that wasn't getting corrected. At the end, it all payed back. I wish you luck.
TragicallyHip
05-19-2002, 08:11 AM
Not sure you can make any kinda legal claim against a guy who lives in Canada...
baNanA_ryCe
05-19-2002, 08:15 AM
he's coming to houston, he'll get money, he'll pay you back. simple enough...
moondoggz
05-19-2002, 09:02 AM
Hahahahha... you are so funny buddy! and full of absolute ****! skunk killers work is the best.... you dont even know what is wrong with your car?? you describe it as "stuff" is not working?? what the hell kinda description is that.... also... what the hell does the relay clicking noise of the turn signal have to do with the led's being soldered in?? NOTHING!!!!
I have seen skunks work.. and he has done work to my car.... and its nothing but top notch...
swift 21
05-19-2002, 09:29 AM
hey skunk if you need some cash come down to california there is alot of peeps who want this conversion. I believe somone is already planning your arrival in the southern cali forum. Email me at arodriguez21@hotmail.com
scotty01
05-19-2002, 10:30 AM
Skunk Killer did my complete blue conversion and I couldn't have asked for a better job. His work is incredible and he has done enough Celica's to be considered a 'professional' if you choose. So it looks like your car had a problem - maybe you just have bad luck. Regardless he has offered to pay for the repairs and he is awaiting the bill at this point it would appear. I would say go get your problem fixed so he can pay for it already. To everyone else, there is always one rotten egg in the nest.
Mack_B
05-19-2002, 10:44 AM
Looks like everyone is calming down about this topic, but I have to put in my 2 cents too. I totally trust Skunk, I've only met him once, but he was very trustworthy. I met him to buy the LEDs off him. I was going to install it myself because my brother has a good electrical background and soldering was not an issue to us.
Anyhow, Skunk was nice enough to tell me how to figure things out before I got started. And when I got to work and had a little trouble, I called him. He called me back asap and helped me through it. No problems. Everything installed and in working order. Well, I actually broke one LED, but Skunk is even nice enough to say he'll call me asap when he's in my area and drop of some extras one to help me out (Paid for of course).
I can't say I know him all that well, but from what I do know, he's totally trustworthy, a few friends even recommended him to me. And I've seen some of his previous work and it's all good.
Peace.
swift 21
05-19-2002, 10:46 AM
angus is cool in my book!
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 11:09 AM
well for all those who said he couldn't contact me because he wasn't home, thats not accurate. he was here last thursday. he said he'd be in canada monday. i emailed and called monday. and continued calling. i was patiently waiting for a week. saturday came along and i saw in the southwest usa forum that he's been posting for days about doing more conversions. so thats when i just posted on here to let everyone know what happened. you guys can all act like its no big deal but if it was you, you would think the same thing i am, that he is obviously trying to screw you. if i was doing people's cars and broke one, and agreed to pay the repairs, and told the person they'd hear from me by monday, THEY'D HEAR FROM ME BY MONDAY. i would never let it go a week without responding, and i would never start posting to people to do their conversions before i took care of my prior commitments. i just think its bad business all around.
crusnn2
05-19-2002, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by TragicallyHip
Not sure you can make any kinda legal claim against a guy who lives in Canada...
ya he'll sick his beaver on you!!!:fawk:
crusnn2
05-19-2002, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by moondoggz
Hahahahha... you are so funny buddy! and full of absolute ****! skunk killers work is the best.... you dont even know what is wrong with your car?? you describe it as "stuff" is not working?? what the hell kinda description is that.... also... what the hell does the relay clicking noise of the turn signal have to do with the led's being soldered in?? NOTHING!!!!
I have seen skunks work.. and he has done work to my car.... and its nothing but top notch...
my thoughts exactly timmeh!!!! he won't even post what is wrong and it cant be that bad if he hasnt gotten it fixed!!!! I wouldnt just hand over money to you without any proof that you actually have gotten it fixed either!!! how do we know its not all bull**** and that its working fine and your just being a **** and need some extra cash!!! He took time outta his life and had a bitch of a time the way there and back and ended up lossing cash because of all the **** that happened to him on the way there and back!!!!
and ya like I said earlier wtf does the clicking noise hafta do with anything???? shows me just how bright you are!!:stupid:
skamikaze
05-19-2002, 12:18 PM
J3adSeed - lemme know what was wrong with your car when you get it fixed. i think i have the same problem as you...my stock deck, a/c controls, hazard light button, and cigarette lighter light are all out. i think i tripped something when i wired a test led to the cigarette lighter.
Byron
05-19-2002, 12:47 PM
let me add, from what I know, skunk's whole trip was nothing but hell. Slept in the car for days, no food, and the rental that he drove the whole way couldn't handle the distance and broke down in the middle of it. on top of that, he got a hefty traffic ticket as well... so adding to the no-shows, I'd say he made no money out of this whole deal whatsoever. so don't make it sound like he came back rich fvcking up other's cars and not knowing what he's doing. Skunk's being doing these conversions to almost 1/3 of the member's cars in our local car club and so far, there are no problems whatsoever.
baNanA_ryCe
05-19-2002, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Byron
let me add, from what I know, skunk's whole trip was nothing but hell. Slept in the car for days, no food, and the rental that he drove the whole way couldn't handle the distance and broke down in the middle of it. on top of that, he got a hefty traffic ticket as well... so adding to the no-shows, I'd say he made no money out of this whole deal whatsoever. so don't make it sound like he came back rich fvcking up other's cars and not knowing what he's doing. Skunk's being doing these conversions to almost 1/3 of the member's cars in our local car club and so far, there are no problems whatsoever.
hey...he's coming to hosuton to get some buisness...and we aren't gonna back out like other ppl did for whatever reason they had...so he should get buisness here for sure!!
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by crusnn2
my thoughts exactly timmeh!!!! he won't even post what is wrong and it cant be that bad if he hasnt gotten it fixed!!!! I wouldnt just hand over money to you without any proof that you actually have gotten it fixed either!!! how do we know its not all bull**** and that its working fine and your just being a **** and need some extra cash!!! He took time outta his life and had a bitch of a time the way there and back and ended up lossing cash because of all the **** that happened to him on the way there and back!!!!
and ya like I said earlier wtf does the clicking noise hafta do with anything???? shows me just how bright you are!!:stupid:
what is wrong with my car is that the console lights won't light up. skunk couldn't fix it. he said a power wire was broken inside the dash board and he couldn't get to it and that i'd be charged 4-6 hours of labor to take apart the dash and fix the problem. i never asked him to give me money without proof. it was already agreed that i'd send him the receipt and he'd then pay me. but i'm not sending him **** until he can at least have the courtesy to respond to an email or answer my calls. i'm not trying to get any ****ing money out of him, thats ridiculous. all i wanted was my car to get fixed. i'm not being unreasonable here. the clicking noise, i was just commenting that because of the different voltage and current drop, etc, you can almost not hear it at all now, and since you can't see the blinkers in the day time either, you can't tell if your blinkers are on in the day time. i was just saying that to the people who plan on doing their blinkers. that its not even worth doing that part because it won't be blue and it won't be visible during the day. i am not trying to get this "fixed" or anything, i'm just saying its an annoying side effect.
you guys are being all hostile towards me and its ridiculous. the point is not the money. the point is he hasn't even talked to me ONCE to find out what the problem is or what it will cost. if he had, i never would have posted about all this. some people on here will appreciate knowing as much as they can ahead of time.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by skamikaze
J3adSeed - lemme know what was wrong with your car when you get it fixed. i think i have the same problem as you...my stock deck, a/c controls, hazard light button, and cigarette lighter light are all out. i think i tripped something when i wired a test led to the cigarette lighter.
my problem is just the lighting in the center console. skunk isn't sure how he broke it. he's given me multiple stories on this. he said he either touched stuff together on the circuit board, or that he touched something together on the cig lighter. he also thought it was a power wire that is the problem.
well i can tell you it was the cig. lighter wire that he touched together. your problem is different from mine so i can't tell you what that one is.
and i would think someone who has done so many of these would unplug the wiring while he was working on it. to prevent shorting stuff out. if he had, none of this would have happened.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by moondoggz
Hahahahha... you are so funny buddy! and full of absolute ****! skunk killers work is the best.... you dont even know what is wrong with your car?? you describe it as "stuff" is not working?? what the hell kinda description is that.... also... what the hell does the relay clicking noise of the turn signal have to do with the led's being soldered in?? NOTHING!!!!
I have seen skunks work.. and he has done work to my car.... and its nothing but top notch...
the "stuff" is the center console lights. they're broke. obviously thats a given. i mean, he did break them. he did know about it.
the relay click noise has to do with the change in voltage. change in resistance in his leds. i'm not saying its broken. i'm saying you can't see the turns in the day and you can't hear the clicking, so don't bother changing them to blue because its not worth it.
i'm glad your car worked out good. but you know, if he broke your car, and promised to pay for it to be repaired, and then disappered, i have a feeling you'd post about it on here.
Byron
05-19-2002, 01:18 PM
dude why don't you just get the $hit fixed and send him the bill. If he doesn't pay then biatch all you want. until then quit whining and bitching. like others have said, maybe thats why he doesn't want to talk to you. you haven't given him what he asked for, for him to reimburse you for anything other than a $hit attitude. yes maybe he fvuked up this one time, but what the hell do you want him to do? stay over at florida for you to hold him hostage until you get the $hit fixed? he already agreed to pay for it and signed a contract what else do you want?
the relay click noise has to do with the change in voltage. change in resistance in his leds. i'm not saying its broken. i'm saying you can't see the turns in the day and you can't hear the clicking, so don't bother changing them to blue because its not worth it.
well this sounds like this whole conversion thing just isn't what you expected it to be. if you can figure out another way to make it blue then go for it. Don't go trash other people's reputation and work because its not what you want.
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 01:41 PM
alright, whatever. i'm done with this. i'm tired of people attacking me about it. i was just giving anyone else who plans on doing this a heads up.
and i was just giving a tip about the turn sigs to not have those done because it will not be the desired result. same w/ the clock.
i'm still awaiting word from angus on this matter however. angus, you still plan on paying for the repair?
i wasn't trashing anyones reputation. was i not fair about this? i waited one week after when i was supposed to hear back from him, and only posted when i heard him say **** about me.
Skunk Killer
05-19-2002, 03:56 PM
Dear J3adSeed, I DID NOT BREAK MY CAR!!!AND LIKE I SAID, IF U DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, JUST SHUT DA F*CK UP!!!!
THANK U FOR BULL****ING!! and I don't see why I should give u a free gauge work after not only I am going to pay for the damage, but also have to take all this **** from u!!!
IF U HAVE A HEARING PROBLEM, GO SEE A DOCTOR BEFORE U MAKE UP STORY AND BULL**** AROUND AGAIN!!! AND PLS STOP REAPEATING UR WORDS!! I believe I have ALREADY SAID THAT I WILL "PAY" FOR THE DAMAGE AFTER U SEND ME THE "RECEIPT" WITH ALL THE DETAIL INFORMATION!!!! (Like some others
said, who knows if u r not trying to rip me off???)
I have to deal with the rental car company coz of the
damage after 7000miles nitemare and I have to try to make money to PAY U AND ALL THESE BILLS!!
I never doubt about my professional work and I always respect ppl!! I respect u and like I said that was why I tried to be nice and to satisfy u by doing a free gauge work for u!! OK, and u still want me to pay u the damage right?? AND YES, I don't know how many times I HAVE to say that I WILL " P-A-Y " U!!!BUT NOW I DON'T SEE ANY POINT OF GIVING U A FREE GAUGE WORK AFTER U BULL**** AROUND AND KEPT ATTACKING ME WITH THE SAME STORY!!PLS RETURN ALL MY LEDs in good condition and gauge work if u think they look **** to u! Don't expect u'll get FREE LEDs and 2 hours FREE gauge work FROM MOI!!!
If u do NOT APPRECIATE me coming all the way down from Canada and do NOT satisfy with the free gauge and do NOT even believe my professional work that I could've fix ur car, it is all fine!! Again, in case u have hearing or reading problem, let me repeat myself AGAIN!!
I WILL PAY FOR THE DAMAGE ONCE U SEND ME THE RECEIPT WITH DETAILED DOCUMENTAION FROM THE QULIFIED CAR SHOP AND RETURN MY GAUAGE WORK AND LEDs!!!!
PLAIN AND SIMPLE!! CLEAR???
EVERYONE HAS A LIMIT. ENOUGH!!!!!
LovinDaCamSwitch
05-19-2002, 04:27 PM
J3adSeed,
You need clam down and listen what Skunk killer said. I think he fair enough here. I know he made a mistake on the car. Even great installer mess up too. No one is perfect and that go for you and me as well as everyone. So.. sit back and take a deep breath and go through the repair process and let Skunk Killer take care of the bill. That's all I would if I were you.
Dan
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 04:37 PM
no its cool. thats all i wanted. this is the first time i've heard him say he'd pay for the repair since he left my house a week and a half ago. although now he's saying i have to send him back the guages he said were free. and he did tell me he had the same problem in his car, and that it should take 4 hours of work and itw as a wire in the dash. i have witnesses to this. my girlfriend was there, and Fin may or may not have been. that i don't know because he was there the first night and i don't know if skunk made up that story the first or second night. but he did tell me he did the same to his car. i knew it was a lie though, because if he broke his and couldn't fix it, how could he fix mine?
anyways i'm not being rude, he's the one calling me names and stuff then turning around and saying he respects me. all i wanted was to tell people what happened and to get him to answer my calls and emails.
now i have a challenge for you skunk killer. you said you could fix it, and you know the problem. post on here what the problem was. (you said it was a broken power wire to me). is this still your story? because i'll be glad to post pictures proving you wrong.
but this is getting ridiculous. i just wanted everyone to know the story of exactly what happened, and how i was treated. this is definately not about the money, because if he had the courtesy of answering my calls or emails we could have talked and he would have already known that.
LovinDaCamSwitch
05-19-2002, 06:05 PM
I see what your saying. It just now, you have to wait till the repair is done. I wouldn't even bother having Skunk Killer trying to fix it over the internet or phone. It not the same if he is right there looking at it. I advise you go to a repair shop and get it taking care of. He's paying the bill, so let him do it. It was his fault, so he going to have to pay the penalty.
Right now J3adSeed, I wouldn't discuss this anymore, it only going to cause more headache between you and Skunk Killer.
Good Luck,
Dan
J3adSeed
05-19-2002, 06:38 PM
yeah i'm done with it. it just really really makes me mad that he lied about him breaking his car, and then turning around calling me a liar. i hope fin heard him say that he broke his car the same way, because it'd be great to show everyone he lied.
but whatever i'm calm about all this and i don't care anymore. i'm done with it. the funny thing is how easy this could have all been solved, if he would have just been a decent person and responded to me.
GTS LAID
05-19-2002, 09:43 PM
alright guys i think its time to take this to PM...
enough people have come on to say that skunk's work is trustworthy and J3adSeed isn't gonna change his mind about it.
if, when you do send him a detailed reciept, and his LEDs back, he does not pay you, then you can bring this up once again..
for now theres been enough hostility.
larryd
05-19-2002, 09:47 PM
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