got into a bloody bar fight with a 5.0 fox

[SlasherX]

i was on 76 going to work eysterday when a black mid 80's fox starts tailing me. its tinted out, with the SVO headlights on it, 5.0 side badges, 302 and GT stickers/badges on his taillights, and doesn't sound liek no turbo 4 cylinder either. So not knowing WTF to expect, he gets next to me and revs and takes off. so i punch it after him and follow to the next light which turns red. light goes green and we peel first, i pull on him a little bit, he chirps 2nd, then i do a second later, which causes my whole car to flex(need mroe than just subframes apparently), and he slowly creeps back next to me, we both chirp 3rd(my subframes/h pipe maybe?), and he pulls to where his rear bumper is right at my front bumper. i get to around 4500 in 3rd gear and then slowly reel him back to where im at his passenger side door. then we sit there, and i let off at the end of 3rd. i upshift to 4th, and we cruise on to the next red where the same exact thign happens again, except i dont do as well off the line (wearing my work boots).

i tried waving to teh guy and honked at him when he turned off, but he was a redneck and seemed pretty pissed that a v6 was holding its ground against him. when we were racing i kept watchign him glance over at my pony tribar on the cars side out of disbelief..hehe.

so thats how it went, back and forth with neither of us blowing by each other at all. and to top it off i got to work 5 minutes earlier than usual :D

[Blk00SS]

Sounds like you need more gear bro. Wonder what mods the 5.0 had

[BoyRacer]

Few to none prolly. with a driver that should be ashamed of himself.:rolleyes:

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by BoyRacer
Few to none prolly. with a driver that should be ashamed of himself.:rolleyes:

actually, it was the fox before the 87-93 ones that would beat me. it was most likely either an 86 with 210hp in the 5 speed and lotsa carb'd torque, or a 85 with the 180hp and lots of mods. if it was the 180hp one, it would HAVE TO HAD mods done to it, stock those things would have a hard time with a stock v6.

[FastDriver]

85 5 speeds are the ones that had 210 ponies and a carb. The 86 had 200 and was FI.

[BoyRacer]

Well the 86 is slow. it was the first year of the EFI. and it sucked. the 85 was the fasest year of the carb mustangs. those 85 will bite your head off if they have a few mods on them, from what i can remeber they have a 650 cfm carb stock i dont meber which company actually produced the carb though(holley or weber), alot people think they are slow for some reason????? the stock 85 is fast. and would easily beat an 86.

[FastDriver]

People probably think of them as slow b/c two years later the mustang went to 225 hp and 300 ft lbs of tq along with a new beefier world class T-5 transmission. Whereas the 85 put out 15 hp less and 30 ft-lbs of TQ less.

I'd think it'd be a lot of fun to have an 85 though. From what I've heard it's simple to tune and easy to mod. I just think that nose is ugly, and I'd have to replace it.

Chris

[Team Toyota Racing]

I know some 5.0s are quick but I have not run one that i couldent beat.... Plus my car just looks so much better.... :)

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by Team Toyota Racing
I know some 5.0s are quick but I have not run one that i couldent beat.... Plus my car just looks so much better.... :)


you drive a modded supra turbo....i'd hope you could beat a 5.0 that didnt have internal work.

[BoyRacer]

I had and 89 last year. before this car. and i cant wait to get another one. it is one of my favorite cars to drive, i had such and attatchment to that car. the reason i bouight it is because my best freind has an '85. we did all of the mods on his car and mine, and i actually was looking for and 85 when i was getting a mustang, but i got the EFI. those cars are the Shi 'ite. anyways my freinds '85 has a new tranny, a king kobra clutch, edelbrock RPM lower plenum, 650 double pumper edebrock carb with spacer, cam, equal length shorty header, mac off road h-pipe, and cherry bomn mufflers. we havent had the inside open yet, it may have a few things done. plus he has upper and lower control arms, i think he has something in the front but it escaped my memory, and springs, and is gutted. no ac, no air pump either. anyways he just bought a '97 trans am. it is completely stock he keeps saying its faster than his mustang, and i went in it. and my dad had '96 raim air in 96 and i member that car. that trans am wouldnt get within 10 feet of the stang i know it. he still owns both cars, i dunno whats he thinking. you can obviusly get into the '85 drive it around, then get in the trans-am . and notice the difference. lol oh well.

[Vtecpk]

just out of curiousity, why are you guys talking about mustangs in a celica forum?

[powercx]

Originally posted by Vtecpk
just out of curiousity, why are you guys talking about mustangs in a celica forum?

I think it'll be boring just to hear Celica's kill. I wouldn't mind bragging about my Maxima kill here.

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by Vtecpk
just out of curiousity, why are you guys talking about mustangs in a celica forum?

variety :) it also gives everyone a better idea of their respective competition out there.

bet ya didn't know a v6 mustang was worth anything performance-wise:)

[jk-]

it is a 12-15 year old car, anything can happen. I am suprised that old mustang kept up that well after all these years.

[BoyRacer]

That was an ignorant comment. i tell you what, i raced a 1963 shelby cobra 427, original! at the track, hes running 12's, ok. 40 frikken years later. The buick grand national 1987, thats 15 frikken years old, can still hit 13's stock with 100k miles on them. i had a 13 second fox body mustang, and it could kick alota cars asses even know it was an 89 AND the previous owners beat the hell out of the engine on top of that,so time doesnt matter, as long as its maintained.

[SlasherX]

the 5.0 is a very stout block. they can rack up the miles with little problems, and from what i've heard a healthy 5.0 is one with over 100k on it :)

[powercx]

Originally posted by SlasherX
the 5.0 is a very stout block. they can rack up the miles with little problems, and from what i've heard a healthy 5.0 is one with over 100k on it :)

So what you're saying the break-in for the 5.0 is 100k miles?

I also think that the problem with ford is the accessories that drives the engine. The engine itself is strong, no problem, but the accessories on the engine, such as fuel pump, water pump, etc.. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by powercx


So what you're saying the break-in for the 5.0 is 100k miles?

I also think that the problem with ford is the accessories that drives the engine. The engine itself is strong, no problem, but the accessories on the engine, such as fuel pump, water pump, etc.. Correct me if I'm wrong.

nah, what im saying is that the 5.0 really comes alive around 100k. in factory form the rings on loose, so it takes awhile for them to properly settle and seal. after 100k the engines done this quite well and it comes alive. the accessories i've never heard a complaint about..not sure where you got that? none of my friends 5.0's, or anythign i've read about have had accessory problems..but if they do, im sure its a cause of old age rather than weak ford design.

what i've been learning with my car and ford's in general, is they give you this good block, or incorporate some really good/nice ideas into your setup, but its up to you to complete it. its like they give you the building block that you can use to do whatever you want, they just don't completely refine it for you so there's not much left to do.

[powercx]

Originally posted by SlasherX


nah, what im saying is that the 5.0 really comes alive around 100k. in factory form the rings on loose, so it takes awhile for them to properly settle and seal. after 100k the engines done this quite well and it comes alive. the accessories i've never heard a complaint about..not sure where you got that? none of my friends 5.0's, or anythign i've read about have had accessory problems..but if they do, im sure its a cause of old age rather than weak ford design.

what i've been learning with my car and ford's in general, is they give you this good block, or incorporate some really good/nice ideas into your setup, but its up to you to complete it. its like they give you the building block that you can use to do whatever you want, they just don't completely refine it for you so there's not much left to do.

Humm, Interesting. We were discussing the reliability between Chevy and Ford and this guy who is a Mechanic told me from his experience, the Chevy has more of an engine problem, and ford has accessories problem. He see's more Chevy in his shop than ford. I don't know what to believe.

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by powercx


Humm, Interesting. We were discussing the reliability between Chevy and Ford and this guy who is a Mechanic told me from his experience, the Chevy has more of an engine problem, and ford has accessories problem. He see's more Chevy in his shop than ford. I don't know what to believe.

well...that does sound about right to a degree...i dunno..it does seem ford has the upper hand in reliability over chevy, but only to a point an donly on certain cars. the mustang for instance i think is one of ford's more bulletproof cars when it comes to reliablity. it doesn't use too much technology, just whats tried and true and simple...the fact that its simple is why the cars so damned indestructible. once you start incorporating loads of new technology, more stuff can go wrong.

on the mustang, the accessories are pretty good..we come stock with a 130amp alternator :) a very nice upgrade from my 1g dsm's 70amp. ya know, little thing slike that..now that i've been thinking about it however, i do believe i have heard of the waterpump on teh 5.0 going..but im not sure if thats from many miles with an underdrive puley, or old age...keep in mind the newest batch of 5.0's..the 94-95's, are approachign 10 years old themselves.. so imagine the fox bodies on teh street..still running..still pulling decent times. i think its a good testament to just how reliable the cars are.