celica gts vs. tc

[MrBoOmBoOm]

which one will win? anyone had a chance racing one yet?

[Blue Bomber]

The Celica will win in every performance category (0-60, 1/4, skidpad, slalom, 60-0), as long as it's a manual.

[GT-Supercharged]

ive raced my auto gt vs a auto tc and beat it. not by much but i did win.

[Carbonized_GT]

The Celica will win in every performance category (0-60, 1/4, skidpad, slalom, 60-0), as long as it's a manual.



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[timm3r]

i've raced a full bolt-on tc when my gts was stock and beat it, pretty bad actually. i think the tc driver wasn't that good of a driver but the car is still pretty slow. the only thing that car has is torque.

[Joey03_VVT-I]

I let my friend drive my SCION Tc to see which car is faster. He had a nice little jump at the start........but I smoked and :owned: him after! :D

[timm3r]

tc have very bad gearing. the torque helps kinda at launches but once the car hits around 60, its downhill from there.

[ahnjae]

tc is a pig....

[bt216]

my old roommate got a TC and we put cai, Dc header, Trd exhaust, SS and we raced and I killed it. I was playing with it.

[lVlemphizStylez]

TC turbo is a monsterous car...I've personally been destroyed by one

[bt216]

That's a whole different car. Greddy makes a turbo kit for pretty cheap that makes 120 hp increase.

[MyCelicaYouNV]

my buddy has a supercharged tc, its just as fast as my supercharged gts

hes on 11lbs of boost...im on 8.5

hes prolly got 250whp
im at 230whp

[batmobile_15]

thats just a dumb question...wen u talk bout car vs car u talk about stock vs stock...other wise almost any car can beat any car once u start adding things

celica all day everyday

[lVlemphizStylez]

That's a whole different car. Greddy makes a turbo kit for pretty cheap that makes 120 hp increase.

120hp increase is rookie...This was at least a 500whp TC...cause I was on race fuel that night running 408 at the wheels

[Carbonized_GT]

my buddy has a supercharged tc, its just as fast as my supercharged gts

hes on 11lbs of boost...im on 8.5

hes prolly got 250whp
im at 230whp


Supercharged by what company? TRD? pfft 250hp my ass.

[MyCelicaYouNV]

yes, trd believe it or not..

Hes had 232whp with 9 lbs....he moved up to the 11 lb pully recently and it gave the car a big kick in power. my guess is 245-250whp but i cant be sure...i know for sure its got more power then it had!

[timm3r]

a trd charger only makes 200hp, and its probably just as fast as a stock gts due to its weight. ya those tc's really can handle boost. they got a big engine with low compression. there are turbo kits making 300 whp on a stock engine.

[Carbonized_GT]

what ecu is he running?

[MyCelicaYouNV]

trd flashed ecu, upped the boost to 11 lbs from the stock like 7

Im suprised its still running...but its running strong, he just replaced the seals on the charger...they blew out. it cant take much more at all.

Hes got full exhaust, and header, yada yada...

Like i said...dyno tuned at 232 with 9 lbs...its GOTTA be faster with 11 lbs...

I know its hard to believe...i didnt even believe it.

[Carbonized_GT]

meh, i suppose its impressive. But i will say this, hes a moron for upping the boost on a reflashed ecu. He should go standalone.

[MyCelicaYouNV]

yeah he already knows...the car runs fine tho...seriously...i dont understand at all..

the stock ecu is smart enough to retard timing enough to keep it safe...thats prolly why it hasnt blown.



stand alone...i dunno if they are popular for tCs...i hear alot about the Emanage and Unichip...

both piggy backs...which is his next mod...but they are expensive fo the tc...he really needs to get that done...he'll prolly get some power out of it to.

Like i said i really dont know how hes gone so far without tuning or piggybacks or anything...bolt ons and a small pully...its not fair :(

[Carbonized_GT]

cool,

still a little piggy though :gap:

[MyCelicaYouNV]

Cars just as fast as my celi man, im impressed

[Carbonized_GT]

i would hope so with more HP, TQ and a bigger engine than you.

[SOAPY]

Stock vs Stock: GTS for sure

bolt-on vs bolt-on: GTS

FI vs FI: tC (bigger engine responds well to boost)

For me the GTS wins because handling is very important to me and the tC doesn't NOT delivery that. Turbo tCs are pretty quick but I prefer running on twisty road with a Celica then blasting past people in a tC mainly in a straight line only. I know theres few who'll disagree with me but this my opinion. Besides what engine is in the Lotus Elise/Exige? A 2zz not a 2az....

[lVlemphizStylez]

stop using the lotus elise....it really isnt all that great a car for its price tag...(I really am not concerned about it's cornering capabilities, there is less chance of me winding around a road or mountain side than gunning it on a straight away on an on ramp)

[Carbonized_GT]

thats kinda far fetched.

[lVlemphizStylez]

what's far fetched? the likelihood of me going WOT on an on ramp vs using my mad tight elite cornering capabilities down a mountain side??? (every twisting road I've seen is populated with traffic/homes...I'll take my chances on an on ramp/deserted back road)

[Carbonized_GT]

what's far fetched? the likelihood of me going WOT on an on ramp vs using my mad tight elite cornering capabilities down a mountain side??? (every twisting road I've seen is populated with traffic/homes...I'll take my chances on an on ramp/deserted back road)


I guess it depends where you live, because a 15 min drive from my place will bring me to a plethora of twisties, that i could really put the elise/exige to work.

[Mongokid]

No way, it cant be the trd one is not all that great i raced one from the dig and i beat it by a car i mean dont get me wrong they are fast but still just with the trd super charger come on man you have to spend 4000 of your own money and its not covered man that ant worth the money.. but as for tc sc still no match for the gts...........

[timm3r]

^^ huh?

[MyCelicaYouNV]

trd supercharger on 9 lbs was as fast as my Celica before it was supercharged...with bolt ons and PFC

trd supercharger on 11 lbs is slightly slower or as fast as my celica as its supercharged.

stock supercharged tCs are slow as hell...

[b1m3x8]

The funny thing is the dealer in the area wants me to trade in my celica for a tc. After telling them how gay the TC was, they ended up saying the tc is faster and could out handle my celica. I never laughed so hard in my life. The people at my dealer are also half retarded, i'm guessing.

[SOAPY]

stop using the lotus elise....it really isnt all that great a car for its price tag...(I really am not concerned about it's cornering capabilities, there is less chance of me winding around a road or mountain side than gunning it on a straight away on an on ramp)


And thats why I said thats my opinion. I'm not corcerned with straight line speed. Of course YOU are cus you're into drag racing. Also my Elise/Exige reference was to show that Lotus had a choice of what engine they would put in it and they picked that one over others. I'm not gonna disagree with tCs being pretty quick once boosted. Also the Exige is one top rated sports cars out right now. Car and Driver rated it 2nd in their magazine this month (Corvette Z06 was 1st).

[Nineball]

And thats why I said thats my opinion. I'm not corcerned with straight line speed. Of course YOU are cus you're into drag racing. Also my Elise/Exige reference was to show that Lotus had a choice of what engine they would put in it and they picked that one over others. I'm not gonna disagree with tCs being pretty quick once boosted. Also the Exige is one top rated sports cars out right now. Car and Driver rated it 2nd in their magazine this month (Corvette Z06 was 1st).

Definitely my dream car. Close-ratio 6-speed with a 9000rpm red-line? :drool:

[epicwolf]

im sorry but i cannot believe people actually asked this question. :faint:


gt-s 6 speed manual destroy a tc even if a tc is fixed up. It's like asking celica gt-s vs toyota supra tt, who will win. :faint:

[Carbonized_GT]

teh celeeka can nevar looose!!!1!!!eleven

[Zero]

im sorry but i cannot believe people actually asked this question. :faint:


gt-s 6 speed manual destroy a tc even if a tc is fixed up. It's like asking celica gt-s vs toyota supra tt, who will win. :faint:

Hmm, tough question. The GT-S will win because it's all motor and has Lift, plus it handles the twisties like none other.

:laugh:

I'm just sh!tting you Truc. :gap:

[Carbonized_GT]

the supra has recorded .98g's on the skidpad by Road and Track.

[SuP3rSh3eP]

No way, it cant be the trd one is not all that great i raced one from the dig and i beat it by a car i mean dont get me wrong they are fast but still just with the trd super charger come on man you have to spend 4000 of your own money and its not covered man that ant worth the money.. but as for tc sc still no match for the gts...........

punctuation ftw

[Exhaustive]

punctuation ftw


LOL

[FenixGt]

Hmm, tough question. The GT-S will win because it's all motor and has Lift, plus it handles the twisties like none other.

:laugh:

I'm just sh!tting you Truc. :gap:



.

[jotggahshibal]

GTS...........

my girl has a tc which is stock auto and my gts has intake / exhaust

she floored it and i gave her like 3 sec head start....caught up to that like nothing.

[Gas-n-Grease]

GTS...........

my girl has a tc which is stock auto and my gts has intake / exhaust

she floored it and i gave her like 3 sec head start....caught up to that like nothing.
picking on your gf :nono: lol

[cashmoney05]

My girl just got a 06 Tc...bitch...i'd have to say that for an auto it is pretty quick but when you get going it really has nothing...i raced an eclipse on the highway starting at 60 her Tc had nothing at that speed. I've heard people getting crazy hp out of a turbo though. We were taking pictures of her Tc and My Gt side by side and the celica Definitely outlooks the Tc. Performance wise she might be able to beat my ass.

[Desertheatracin]

On my old trd sc setup in my tc I made 252whp / 212tq with many mods at 10psi... and stock exhaust. With the new turbosetup I made 317whp / 304tq at 10 psi on an uber safe tune. With a more agressive tune at 8 psi I made 296whp, forget the tq off the top of my head. I have a motor build in progress with headwork. When done I am shooting for 475-500whp. The tC can be a MEAN biatch when worked over correct. There are a lot of high 12 second tc's out and about that are still on stock internals although I would not recommend it :)

[Carbonized_GT]

http://twiggs.org/images/5203-bakery-crisp-chocolate-chip-cookie.jpg

[drewd]

The funny thing is the dealer in the area wants me to trade in my celica for a tc. After telling them how gay the TC was, they ended up saying the tc is faster and could out handle my celica. I never laughed so hard in my life. The people at my dealer are also half retarded, i'm guessing.

That's called marketing/manipulation to get you to buy the car. Same thing happened to me when I went with a friend to check one out. "Oh yea..it's wayy faster than a gt-s and the handling is incredible!" :chuckles:

I'd rather drive my old 91 camry, rest her soul.

[hapa77]

ive raced my auto gt vs a auto tc and beat it. not by much but i did win.


it dont matter if you win by an inch or a mile winning is winning

[JaxCD]

now... if anyone can explain me why TC drivers rev at me (06 wrx) that would be great...

[FITGT]

now... if anyone can explain me why TC drivers rev at me (06 wrx) that would be great...


HAHA

I think it is cause of all the rice commercials Toyota puts out about the TC. So many younger kids drive them near me like they own the road. One reved to me, I did nothing.

[Gas-n-Grease]

HAHA

I think it is cause of all the rice commercials Toyota puts out about the TC. So many younger kids drive them near me like they own the road. One reved to me, I did nothing.
:chuckles: yep, toyota/scion does put that image into the young naive drivers. this includes the other 2 scions, xA and xB. i've had countless encounters of xB drivers with superiority complex.

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

:chuckles: yep, toyota/scion does put that image into the young naive drivers. this includes the other 2 scions, xA and xB. i've had countless encounters of xB drivers with superiority complex.

yah serious...i get the same thing from evo and wrx owners....but they can back it up

[Joey03_VVT-I]

now... if anyone can explain me why TC drivers rev at me (06 wrx) that would be great...
Maybe he thought that all Scion Tc comes with a TRD supercharger. Or hes just a dumbas$ who thinks that a SCION Tc are the fastest car in the market!

[Carbonized_GT]

hes just a dumbas$ who thinks that a SCION Tc are the fastest car in the market!


OMGZ! MY TEECEE ISNT TEH FASTESTEST CAR!!!?!?!?!?!

[Joey03_VVT-I]

:chuckles: :D :chuckles:

[drewd]

What's the resale value is on Tcs?

When I got my 02 GT it had the same price tag as a brand new 05' tc...

[bt216]

now... if anyone can explain me why TC drivers rev at me (06 wrx) that would be great...


because they are retarded. My old roommate kept talking sh*t after we raced and I won. Me=Gt-S I/h/e/c/f/etc. Him=I/h/e

[JaxCD]

Thanks guys!

:D

[mike325ci]

lol @the comments here... the tC actually looks pretty decent and i thought hey, maybe it'll make a good beater/city car (i like hatchbacks, unlike most americans)... omg, it is so gutless tho. no soul AT ALL. this is not a celica replacement, no matter what they say. gimme a 9th gen any time of day...

[Carbonized_GT]

nice trac.

[neological]

gimme a 9th gen any time of day...
9th gen?

[FITGT]

gimme a 9th gen any time of day...
9th gen?

Corolla?

[phaqgm]

gimme a 9th gen any time of day...
9th gen?


I think he's saying that the tC is the 8th gen, and the 9th gen has yet to be built.

[neological]

ok, because i had no clue wtf he was talking about.

[mike325ci]

lol sorry, that was called a brain fart. i meant the 7th gen. the ones blessed with the 2zzge...

so, then, what is the likes of a ST215 Caldina GT-FOUR? 7.5 gen?

[Carbonized_GT]

caldina is NOTHING like a celica..

Celica = Hatchback/Liftback
Caldina = Wagon.

Caldina is like a slightly bigger Matrix.

[trueblue03]

my cousin has an auto tC and i spanked it with my gt with only an injen cold air intake... lmao. we're talkin about 3-4 cars sadly... hahahahh

[redlift]

you tube video links below

i was at silver dollar for import showdown and raced my friend's tc (although her bf was driving). for the record, this was my first time to a track, and he knows how to launch well. i dont. he took the lead for less than 60' but i caught him in lift in 1st gear when i got lift. tc's have a good jump, but in the end they're behind.

GT-S has Injen CAI, TRD Axel Back
tC has K&N Intake, Injen Axel Back
[so basically stock]

stats:

GT-S
1/4 - 15.347
R/T - .882 (horrible i know, maybe napping at the time??)

tC
1/4 - 15.995
R/T - .504

YOUTUBE.COM VIDEO LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggJ7nurGKck

[BuRn1nG]

tcs are pigs. its when you turbo them they become fast, otherwise they are just :gay:

[889 Kai]

I heard they do handle turbos well, but so what.. then they have to dump more money into the suspension because they dont handle worth ****. I was looking at one and not impressed at all. Yeah, it has the 2.4L Camry engine (not fast, but nice engine since its a Yota) but the fit and finish of all Scions are horrible. In general they remind me of a little toy car, you buy the car for a cheaper price then can get all the "cute" accessories for it... Thats just my opinion...But to each his/her own

[hapa77]

do tc's have LSD too? or is it an aftermarket part?

[Carbonized_GT]

do tc's have LSD too?


Nope.

[neological]

Think of any performance related part.

The tC doesn't have it.

[drewd]

Think of any performance related part.

The tC doesn't have it.


Do they come from factory with trd exhaust or anything?

[Carbonized_GT]

there are dealer options you can get hotchkis strutbar, and trd accessories.

[redlift]

Do they come from factory with trd exhaust or anything?


nope. nothing. just a camry engine...and having worked at toyota and now lexus, ill tell you that engine wont go very long without a rear main seal leak. and thats just to start..

[hapa77]

Do they come from factory with trd exhaust or anything?


nope. nothing. just a camry engine...and having worked at toyota and now lexus, ill tell you that engine wont go very long without a rear main seal leak. and thats just to start..

do tc's have LSD too?


Nope.

Think of any performance related part.

The tC doesn't have it.



Damn that blows scions sucks ass, whats wrong with Toyota

[XechsZero02GT-S]

Damn that blows scions sucks ass, whats wrong with Toyota
Unfortunately, that is the way things are. Toyota is in the business of selling cars. Though the tC is inferior to the Celica GT-S in pretty much every way, it is a cheaper alternative for parents who want to give their teenage kid a sporty first car, and the person who'd rather get a better new car, but can't honestly afford one. The GT-S on the other hand, was in many people's opinions too expensive for the specs that it put out. So while the tC "sucks ass", it sells much better than the GT-S did. And while I take my hat off to those who actually go through the trouble of making this car fast, I honestly wish that common owners would understand what they are driving, and the limits that go with it. Unless the GT-S driver involved is a complete idiot that steps on the brake instead of the accelerator, and the tC driver has some serious skills with a good bit of luck on the side, A stock Celica GT-S will never lose to a stock tC. Never.

[PaLng_CeLca]

now... if anyone can explain me why TC drivers rev at me (06 wrx) that would be great...

they probably owned 89 corolla before they got TC :gap:

[epicwolf]

Unfortunately, that is the way things are. Toyota is in the business of selling cars. Though the tC is inferior to the Celica GT-S in pretty much every way, it is a cheaper alternative for parents who want to give their teenage kid a sporty first car, and the person who'd rather get a better new car, but can't honestly afford one. The GT-S on the other hand, was in many people's opinions too expensive for the specs that it put out. So while the tC "sucks ass", it sells much better than the GT-S did. And while I take my hat off to those who actually go through the trouble of making this car fast, I honestly wish that common owners would understand what they are driving, and the limits that go with it. Unless the GT-S driver involved is a complete idiot that steps on the brake instead of the accelerator, and the tC driver has some serious skills with a good bit of luck on the side, A stock Celica GT-S will never lose to a stock tC. Never.


I agreed whole 100%. Very well said.


I still dont understand why people always compared a TC to a gt-s and their powers. I mean do they think both have the same engine and power or something? I mean it's like me comparing a supra vs a s2000 or something :faint:

[neological]

Unfortunately, that is the way things are. Toyota is in the business of selling cars. Though the tC is inferior to the Celica GT-S in pretty much every way, it is a cheaper alternative for parents who want to give their teenage kid a sporty first car, and the person who'd rather get a better new car, but can't honestly afford one. The GT-S on the other hand, was in many people's opinions too expensive for the specs that it put out. So while the tC "sucks ass", it sells much better than the GT-S did. And while I take my hat off to those who actually go through the trouble of making this car fast, I honestly wish that common owners would understand what they are driving, and the limits that go with it. Unless the GT-S driver involved is a complete idiot that steps on the brake instead of the accelerator, and the tC driver has some serious skills with a good bit of luck on the side, A stock Celica GT-S will never lose to a stock tC. Never.
You forgot to mention that in profitwise the tC is a much more successful car than the Celica ever was. By a huge margin.

Hi from alexandria. I work here.

[XechsZero02GT-S]

I still dont understand why people always compared a TC to a gt-s and their powers.

Well, most people here in the U.S. regard the tC as the successor to the Celica. And from the views of those who've followed USDM spec Celicas through the years, they're probably not too far off. With the exception of a few stand-outs that have had decent performance for their respective times (ie. The Celica-Supras, ST165 and ST185 All-Trac Turbos, and the ZZT231 GT-S), The Celica has been regarded as a sporty daily driver, and that's it. The tC fits that general description very well. It's only normal for people to compare the new kid on the block to the guy that just walked out of the door, since they seem similar. Since the GT-S was the Celica's top trim, it's the tC's most natural target for comparison. Though the FD RX-7's abilities are much greater than the RX-8's, they're destined to be compared to each other because they seem similar. It's the same thing.

[JaxCD]

they probably owned 89 corolla before they got TC :gap:


hahaha :)

[c2certified]

check out this scion for you peoplez ,,, see him at the shop all the time.

http://a388.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/3/l_325ba4fb9c1602312063973d249d9db3.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/racedezign/DSC04086.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/racedezign/DSC04080.jpg

[Carbonized_GT]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/8/8e/300px-Rice-A-Roni.jpg

[Zero]

It that a tC or an Eclipse? :puke:

[c2certified]

haha its a TC ,, yeah i don't know the specs on it, i know for sure i think its turboed.

[d's gts]

POS

[FITGT]

POS

.

[drewd]

Not diggin the body kit or the way it's painted.

[celicajonz]

:thumbdown

[Carbonized_GT]

Not diggin the body kit or the way it's painted.


Thats carbon fiber man! Nothing saves weight like adding carbon fiber pieces!

[00'gts]

Well, most people here in the U.S. regard the tC as the successor to the Celica. And from the views of those who've followed USDM spec Celicas through the years, they're probably not too far off. With the exception of a few stand-outs that have had decent performance for their respective times (ie. The Celica-Supras, ST165 and ST185 All-Trac Turbos, and the ZZT231 GT-S), The Celica has been regarded as a sporty daily driver, and that's it. The tC fits that general description very well. It's only normal for people to compare the new kid on the block to the guy that just walked out of the door, since they seem similar. Since the GT-S was the Celica's top trim, it's the tC's most natural target for comparison. Though the FD RX-7's abilities are much greater than the RX-8's, they're destined to be compared to each other because they seem similar. It's the same thing.

The tc kinda is the replacement for the celica,...the 5spd gt celica (powerwise). The gt is what it should be compared to, but then you've got the extra 500lbs. that come outta nowhere, making it an overweight underpowered dissapointing (affordable..who cares) lameish celica. I have personally laid four diffrent tcs to rest, and secretly wish toyota/scion had tried harder and made a compotent opponent for the gt-s level celica.

[WHITEKNIGHT2000]

I love them both. My tC seems to pick up speed faster but my GTS top end blows it away. Once I install the turbo on my tc it will be a totally different story. 500hp tc with stock body no1 will see it coming.

[LightningRod]

http://twiggs.org/images/5203-bakery-crisp-chocolate-chip-cookie.jpg


This one looks better:
http://jolle.se/imgs/cookie.jpg

it dont matter if you win by an inch or a mile winning is winning


http://www.exodusnews.com/Photos/Diesel-V.JPG

[Carbonized_GT]

debatable.

[Joey03_VVT-I]

This one looks better:
http://jolle.se/imgs/cookie.jpg
:drool:

[redlinegts85]

Let's put it this way. When I race my friends celica GT 5 speed (trd exhaust, injen intake), I beat him by 5-6 cars. When I race my friends TC 5 speed (greddy exhaust), I beat him by 7-8 cars. So basically the TC is the slowest of them all.

[Celica402GTS]

i guess i must sux at driving cause i raced this kid's tc like 3 times and everytime by the end of 3rd i win by like a car..he said he only got intake that's it..probably running on e-management..but said he wasn't..after 3rd race he had to pop his hood cuz the header for red hot..i had full interior, 50+ lbs total of sub box and spare tire..full tank of gas..i guess the road wasn't long enough..i dunno..i guess i sux at racing..this kid race more then i do..so i dunno..

[QWKSILVER]

Yeah, well try telling this guy who put a video on youtube. He posted a video of a tc beating an auto gts. I am not even sure if the gts was trying, kinda looked setup to me. If your interested in seeing it, here is the link, hopefully it will work for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxXGmXcoZ2c

[LightningRod]

Yeah, well try telling this guy who put a video on youtube. He posted a video of a tc beating an auto gts. I am not even sure if the gts was trying, kinda looked setup to me. If your interested in seeing it, here is the link, hopefully it will work for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxXGmXcoZ2c


Ugh. Reminds me of my old auto GT-S. Sad, but true. :(

[Gas-n-Grease]

even if the GTS is a manual it still lacks torque, which mean i can get a car and 1/2 ahead of him. The only good thing about a GTS is that it has HP, which doesn't mean anything when it comes to torque. What? the GTS has about 145 tq or somethin like that, i'm just takin a guess.

And the tC has 163. By the time the manual celica catches up the race is over. So it wouldn't really matter. I've raced a 5-speed GT and left him in the dirt. The GTS seems like it just adds HP, like 40+? What about the tq add? Barely nothin.

wow....... another one of those "torque wins races" guy? kinda seems to me that hes trying to give himself a reason why his tC beat a celica in general. when he looses he'll probably use one of these excuses:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BsectionBoss/Ricer-excuse-gaugeweb.jpg

[redlinegts85]

I just posted a comment on that video. I really hope that dude lives near me so we can race. TC's are a fvcking joke. That guy is so pathetic.

[QWKSILVER]

^^ Just read your post on youtube, I hope he is close to you. Oh, I am Tubespys by the way. I thought some of you guys might be interested in seeing what crap he is talking.

[XechsZero02GT-S]

Man.... I really feel sorry for auto GT-S owners. I remember how I used go back and forward against my friend's auto with my '90 Celica ST. It had a redtop 4A-GE swapped into it, but I still should've been utterly destroyed every time, but it was always close and at the time I really didn't understand why. Me being the typical stupid 18 year-old, I used to pick at him saying that it was the difference in our skills that helped me whoop up on him. It wasn't until much later that I found out how slow the auto GT-S really was, and the sense of pride that I had for being able to stand up to a GT-S was stripped away from me. It made me feel like I had been fighting against a cripple all that time. But I guess this particular tC driver gets a kick out of pushing old people out of wheelchairs. Someone in CA please put this moron in his place, for the sake of those of us who live too far away from him to do it ourselves.

[redlinegts85]

Man.... I really feel sorry for auto GT-S owners. I remember how I used go back and forward against my friend's auto with my '90 Celica ST. It had a redtop 4A-GE swapped into it, but I still should've been utterly destroyed every time, but it was always close and at the time I really didn't understand why. Me being the typical stupid 18 year-old, I used to pick at him saying that it was the difference in our skills that helped me whoop up on him. It wasn't until much later that I found out how slow the auto GT-S really was, and the sense of pride that I had for being able to stand up to a GT-S was stripped away from me. It made me feel like I had been fighting against a cripple all that time. But I guess this particular tC driver gets a kick out of pushing old people out of wheelchairs. Someone in CA please put this moron in his place, for the sake of those of us who live too far away from him to do it ourselves.

Believe me I'm trying. I'm still waiting for a response from him. People like this who beat a slow ass car and then think they can beat anything else on the road really piss me off.

[Carbonized_GT]

Ill race him....




















Im driving a supra :monkey:

[Zero]

You're only going to prove to him that it's the torque. :chuckles:

[Carbonized_GT]

You're only going to prove to him that it's the torque. :chuckles:


:gap:

[SOAPY]

even if the GTS is a manual it still lacks torque, which mean i can get a car and 1/2 ahead of him. The only good thing about a GTS is that it has HP, which doesn't mean anything when it comes to torque. What? the GTS has about 145 tq or somethin like that, i'm just takin a guess.

And the tC has 163. By the time the manual celica catches up the race is over. So it wouldn't really matter. I've raced a 5-speed GT and left him in the dirt. The GTS seems like it just adds HP, like 40+? What about the tq add? Barely nothin.

wow....... another one of those "torque wins races" guy? kinda seems to me that hes trying to give himself a reason why his tC beat a celica in general. when he looses he'll probably use one of these excuses:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BsectionBoss/Ricer-excuse-gaugeweb.jpg


Damn this thread is still alive?! :rofl: What I find funny is that this guy thinks 18 ft of torque will makeup for the huge weight of the tC. I wonder if he knows what the power to weight ratio is. :chuckles:

[LightningRod]

Ignorance > that tC douchebag

[QWKSILVER]

Damn this thread is still alive?


Yeah, I was about to start a new one so you guys could see this craptalker, but I saw there was already a gts vs tc thread. So I thought I would just jack this one instead. ;~)

[Azn2nrBoi]

I raced a Turbo TC with my celica (bolt on) N/A and wooped him... he had a loud bov but coulnt drive... or probly a horrible tune... but then i got my ass handed by one on the way back from work one day...

but TC's Suck whether i can beat it in a twisty/straightaway or not... TC will always be ftl

[QWKSILVER]

So I guess we scared tcjuss, the dumbass on youtube cause he hasn't answered redlinegts85 yet, but he was logged on like 6 hrs ago.

[Mongokid]

Yo redline he is in bay area so not sure if that is close to you but whoop his ass for talking **** man......

[LightningRod]

Haha, just read those comments in the link ...

I think that guy pussed out. :laugh:

Also, anyone else notice how well the video portrays that the tC just falls flat on its face in the higher RPMs? When they start, it pulls nicely, but then it just stays in the same position until the driver shifts again.

Fcuking bag-o-douche.

[redlinegts85]

Yo redline he is in bay area so not sure if that is close to you but whoop his ass for talking **** man......


I just posted again. Hopefully he responds before I leave tomorrow. I tried putting in my email address so he could contact me but youtube would let me post a comment with an email address in it. :fawk:

[LightningRod]

Yo redline he is in bay area so not sure if that is close to you but whoop his ass for talking **** man......


I just posted again. Hopefully he responds before I leave tomorrow. I tried putting in my email address so he could contact me but youtube would let me post a comment with an email address in it. :fawk:


He's not gonna respond because he's too chickensh!t to race you. He's gonna try to play it off and be like, "yo dawg I was busy" or something similarly retarded like that.

BTW, I made my contribution to the video. :gap:

I don't mean to be such a tC hater ... I really am not ... but I just can't stand it when people don't know where they stand in the pecking order.

[itchyvi3t]

i lost to a tc in my manual gts

but then again i had a broken ocv and couldnt engage in lift and a rev limit at 6k. it was a sad day. he didnt want to race when i got it fixed.

[LEDmod]

Friend of mine just got a greddy turbo for his tC and got it tuned and dyned....
At 5psi... it did 250 to the wheel.... that is impressive number...

[Azn2nrBoi]

tc's blow... end of discusson

[tulgeywood99]

There is something wrong with that race between the auto GTS and the TC. A friend of ours has a TC and just for fun we raced each other. The TC did not keep up like it did in that video let alone even think about passing.

[trueblue03]

tc's are just.... stupid. :whogives:

honestly. it kinda makes me mad that toyota would even try to replace the celi's.
they could've at least done a better job trying. gah.
you get a little closer to a good race when you compare tc's to stock gt's..
but even with just intake and exhaust, i think a gt would embarass a tc.

[NFS-Ed]

Every one and their mother has a TC they feel like they are driving a BMW - the best think that could have happend to the celica 2004 is that they only sold 15,000 making the car more rare -

Some one should make a video of a stock celica GTS manuel vs a stock TC manuel just to make it clear which the the better car -

[Carbonized_GT]

Every one and their mother has a TC they feel like they are driving a BMW

Feeling like your driving a BMW is a bad thing?

**** I'd love to have a BMW, or the 'feel' of a BMW.

[Toxygene]

I think it's funny how everyone wants a TC and ends up trying to personalize it with the same personalization accessories. It's kind of what my buddies laugh at when people try to go goth by going to Hot Topic and buying a whole bunch of clothes. We call them Insta-Goths. No real originality. How can you personalize your car if everyone is buying the same car and the same accessories.

I think you'd have a rarer TC if you kept it bone stock. As for power, I think that so long as you buy one used, you're not doing to bad for a platform to start with. Otherwise, if I had to buy a new car, I'd rather buy an SI, or RSX or even a used Celica before I'd consider the TC. The TC to me is like a mini Grand Touring car.

http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00022/08/19/22909180_l.gif

[StaticX27]

I had a tC back into my RX7 when I was at the drive thru in Jack in the Box. The funny part was that he tried to run away from me. I looked over at my friend and asked him
"how much of a head start should I give him?" I ended up giving him a 8 second lead before I went after him.

What made it more priceless is that a cop pulled out and pulled us both over. I explained to the cop what happened, and I wasn't racing, the wench backed into me and I needed to get his license plate number to make him pay for the damages. No speeding ticket for me. Speeding, hit and run ticket for him, plus having to pay for a repaint on my front bumper. Oh yea, and I got numbers from a couple of the girls in his car. That was just to add insult to injury.