Custom paint job - looking for sparkly paint

[MfS]

I want to get a custom paint job for my celica (when it finally arrives). I was thinking to get red, dark red or purpulish red :)
The paint has to have lots of shiny sparkles in it. I don't know how this paint is called exactly.
Does anyone have pictures or url's to websites for more info?
...or comment?

Thanks in advance.
-MfS-

[nccelica]

metallic flake is what i think your referring to

[juicedcelica]

it is a mettalic flake paint... this is something I would not recommend the paint tends to come out uneven because you can not spray an even amount of flake since it's all being pulled threw a spray gun and is being mixed in smaller amounts then it was originnaly made with when it was put into the gallon. Just my opinion but I know when I look at flake paint jobs I look at the consistency and it is rarley even

[TRDcelicaGT]

its called pearl anything with pearl will get you a nice color. Like the Civic Si its Electron Blue pearl

[TRDcelicaGT]

flakes are glitter basicly in paint booooooo

[juicedcelica]

pearl is not a flake paint job trdcelica gt... pearl is a clear coat that is mixed with another color so that is is clear but in certain lights you can see that color... example the green Trans am's have a blue pearl.... the purple s-10's also have a blue pearl..... metal flake is metal flake added to the paint.... it is mixed directly with what ever your base color is and that is why it turns out uneven.... a pearl is sparayed over the base coat and unly turns out uneven when the painter lays more coats on one panel then he does on another

[Kuz]

pearl coated paint is actually crushed pearls in the paint, thats one of the reasons why it is so expensive.... you usually see it in white in different varieties...

[TRDcelicaGT]

thank you 6thGenCeliGuy

t wouldnt be a clear coat if it had pearl. key word clear now their maybe a transperent pearl coat but, I was talking about the actual pearls in our car.

[Iceit69]

do you want sparkly paint? like a bass boat? :)

[MfS]

I don't know what a bass boat is...

Anyway, thanks for the info everybody! Metal flake was indeed the term I was looking for.

Cheers,
-MfS-

[juicedcelica]

look to my first post for the metal flake reply... as for the other 2 dim witt's it is not crushed pearl it is clear coat mixed usualy 50/50 with a base color to make it trasparent and will show up only under certain lighting conditions. a true pearl paint job goes base coat , pearl coat, clear coat, it is called a PEARL COAT because it give's of the same effect a pearl does, pearls with roll a color depending on the light that is hitting them sometimes they look white other time they have color to them. just like a pearl paint job some time's you only see the base coat but then you the light shifts on it and you see another color.

[Jesse IL]

Originally posted by juicedcelica
look to my first post for the metal flake reply... as for the other 2 dim witt's it is not crushed pearl it is clear coat mixed usualy 50/50 with a base color to make it trasparent and will show up only under certain lighting conditions. a true pearl paint job goes base coat , pearl coat, clear coat, it is called a PEARL COAT because it give's of the same effect a pearl does, pearls with roll a color depending on the light that is hitting them sometimes they look white other time they have color to them. just like a pearl paint job some time's you only see the base coat but then you the light shifts on it and you see another color.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time here, but your grammar is so bad that I'm not sure what you're trying to explain. Here's what I'm taking, please correct me if I'm wrong:

1. A TRUE pearl paint job will have the pearl mixed directly with the base color. This would have a standard polyurethane clear coat over top.

2. Cheap pearl jobs will just mix the pearl with the clearcoat.

Now I have a Spectra Blue car, and I'm pretty sure that the mica is mixed directly with the base color, and the clear coat is just clear.

Oh and one more thing: House of Kolors Candy Blue is a pearl paint, correct?

[RRKEYZX]

PPG makes some nice metallic flake colors...really $$$ though.

[juicedcelica]

Sorry about the grahmar but you are wrong......

Good pearl= 3 stage paint 1st stage Base coat 2nd stage pearl coat ( clear coat mixed with a pearl base not crushed pearls) 3rd stage clear coat

Not sure how cheap ones are done I dont' do any thing cheap

Candy= three stage again but this time it is a little different
1st stage base coat usually a silver or whit something light in color
2nd stage Clear coat 30% base coat 70% usually a darker color then base (blue and red are common for candie's over silver) this mixture allows for a ver rich look and gives the reverse of a pearl paint job
3rd stage clear coat

This is how it all works .... you just don't know because you if your even involved in your own paint work buy it already mixed... but both styles of paints will be a 3 stage paint job

[Cash Money]

alright... i could help out a lil' here

Jesse Il: Nope... Kandy's are not a pearl... they're much nicer :)

Ok...you want a "nice" glittery paint... Look into House of Kolors... i have a Kandy paintjob on my Celi and I love it...

i can't give out specifics as there is a couple tricks to my paint to make it diff... but here's the gist...

1st stage: there is a variety of base coats... this is where all the metallic is in as well... i chose glamour flake instead of the reg stuff cause i'm not about big flakes and believe me it still glitters... the bases could be a silver, gold, bronze, greenish gold, etc.. Mine's a Silver base for example... there's anywhere from 2-6 coats of this... depends on your taste and color chosen...this is what makes say, the different shades of reds as the base reflects the light back through the 2nd stage...

2nd stage: this is where the color comes into play... this is where a very translucent color is applied...this is why when you look at a true kandy paint you could basically look right through to the base coat...and there is a variety of colors here as well...red, green, blue, burples, oranges, etc... this stage is what makes the depth of the color... this part contains anywhere from 3-10+ coats... mine... i'll never tell...

3rd stage: this is where the clear coat is added... some people say more is better... but the more you put down...the more "haze" will become apparent... 3 coats will suffice of a top quality paint... usually people throw on more coats of this over heavy flake because you could actually "feel" the flake in the paint if you run your hands over it, so they use the clear to cover that feeling up...

sometimes there's some "trick" coats in there somewhere...just to make them different... kinda like mine... it's what gives a different effect to it... what did i do? sorry... can't tell ya :)

but all in all...you can't beat a good Kandy paintjob... i used to be in all those chromellusions, pearls and the sort till i picked this color out and saw the finished product... I would never get another type of custom paint ever...trust me on this... Oh yea, also get anything by House of Kolors...they are the best custom paints and no one will tell me (or you if you get it done) different... just make sure whoever does it has a heated/baking booth, special guns, and a down-draft booth... hope this helps :)

look into my album in my sig... but beware it doesn't do any justice to the paint...

[juicedcelica]

I agree with you cash money ....House Of Colors is the only way to go as far as paint. I on the onther hand am not to fond of there clear coat it gives sort of a yellow look to me a normal eye won't pic it up but when you pay attention to every little detail you can notice it on certain colors.

[TRDcelicaGT]

"as for the other 2 dim witt's"

Lets not talk about your mom and pop, get your **** straight go to a paint shop and do your research, now if you are talking about cheap paint pearl coat must be one, becuase if you look at the liquid silver Celica their is a pearl in it without a clearcoat I had my c-one hood scoop painted by toyota without the clear coat and the original paint has the pearl in it.

[juicedcelica]

Ok that must be the cheep paint I am talking about ... when my car was a factory color it was resprayed about 3 months after I had it with a clear coat... I am glad to hear you are proud of your cheap paint I on the other hand if I were to go with a pearl paint would want it done right with a 3 stage paint.... more power to you on your single stage pearl paint job with out a clear coat

[Cash Money]

Originally posted by juicedcelica
I agree with you cash money ....House Of Colors is the only way to go as far as paint. I on the onther hand am not to fond of there clear coat it gives sort of a yellow look to me a normal eye won't pic it up but when you pay attention to every little detail you can notice it on certain colors.

Oh yea... i agree with the Clear Coat that they make... it's way over priced, and it could have that tint prob especially over whites and their pastellish colors... i think they solved that with their Kosmic stuff... My car has a different clear on it... My body man imports this stuff over from Europe on custom paints, and i can't remember the stuffs name, but i think it had a three letter name...had to wait two weeks for the clear to come in... but it was all worth it...

[selika2000]

Wow.. I'm not expert on paint but what an interesting debate going on in here.. I always thought it was important to have a good clear coat.. maybe not just one but more then one. Correct me if I'm wrong Gumby.. since you sure know your stuff.. I've seen your car.. and I'm anxious to see the newest green celica. ;)

[juicedcelica]

Your right selika....a clear coat is very important paint is never laid perfectly smooth. a clear coat gives you a chance to color sand and buff it to really bring out a shine and take away all the imperfections in it.... the 2 dimm witts in question from above are unwilling to open there eyes to a concept that they might not have heard of... then again they probably haven't spent a totally of 14 months in the body shop with there car in the past 2 years. and since I have I fell quite confident in my post being as accurate as possible. Remember I don't pay to full price to have my car done I am involved fully in every step of the build up of my car. here is a pic I obviously have some experiance with after market paint.
http://www.teradream.com/aonaz/gumby/MVC-011S.JPG

[vis-celica]

GAY, that is all.

[Jesse IL]

I went to House of Kolor's website...all it did was confuse the hell out of me. All I know is that at HIN last year, this dude had this Eclipse that was an amazing pearl-looking (not getting into specifics here) blue. I asked the dude what the paint was and he said House of Kolor Kandy Blue. That was as far as I was concerned with it. Frankly, I wouldn't spend this type of kwon on a daily driven car...too much happens to the paint.

And is anyone else disappointed that Gumby's car turned out to be that color after how much he knows about paint?

[juicedcelica]

LOL Jesse IL I wasn't looking for a color you see every day. I made the paint out of three seperate color's to creat my blend and my color that way no one else would ever have my color.... Color is all prefferance my friend (who know's nothing) but knowing about diferent styles of paint requires knowledge ... I built my car for magazine coverage and first place trophies... if you have noticed you aren't finding stock colored cars on the cover of magazines unless it is a racer style magazine..... I'm looking for show quality magazines ... Color has to be bright to sell magazines my paint is as bright as they come interior has to be equally as bright and it is... jesse you seem to talk alot of crap for admiting to knowing nothing about paint ... what is done to your car ... cookie cutter modification's I bet we can find 100 people on this page that have you modification's not saying that is a bad thing but I'm wasn't looking for cookie cutter I have my own image I don't follow the crowd... I know I am going to get flamed hard for this but so be it... what is the point in building a car that every one has in the same way everyone is building it. I bought a celica to stand out I did sorry jesse maybe next time I will borrow your cookie cutter so I could build my car

[TRDcelicaGT]

WELL JACK ASS WE WHERE NEVER SAYING THAT THERE WASNT A 3 STAGE PAINTING METHODS i WAS JUST IMPLYING THAT THEIR IS SUCH THING AS A COAT OF PAINT THAT BRINGS PEARL IN IT NOT IN ITS CLEAR COAT STAGE, iF YOU FEEL THAT YOU NEED 3 LAYERS OF COATS DO IT, BUT DONT INSULT OTHERS WHEN THEY ARE RIGHT. your way is not the only way of getting a car painted.

PS sorry for the caps

[Jesse IL]

Originally posted by juicedcelica
LOL Jesse IL I wasn't looking for a color you see every day. I made the paint out of three seperate color's to creat my blend and my color that way no one else would ever have my color.... Color is all prefferance my friend (who know's nothing) but knowing about diferent styles of paint requires knowledge ... I built my car for magazine coverage and first place trophies... if you have noticed you aren't finding stock colored cars on the cover of magazines unless it is a racer style magazine..... I'm looking for show quality magazines ... Color has to be bright to sell magazines my paint is as bright as they come interior has to be equally as bright and it is... jesse you seem to talk alot of crap for admiting to knowing nothing about paint ... what is done to your car ... cookie cutter modification's I bet we can find 100 people on this page that have you modification's not saying that is a bad thing but I'm wasn't looking for cookie cutter I have my own image I don't follow the crowd... I know I am going to get flamed hard for this but so be it... what is the point in building a car that every one has in the same way everyone is building it. I bought a celica to stand out I did sorry jesse maybe next time I will borrow your cookie cutter so I could build my car

Man, don't be so defensive. You've jumped down several people's throats already in this thread. My one piece of "talking crap" in this entire thread was, to quote myself, "And is anyone else dissapointed tha Gumby's car turned out to be that color after how much he knows about paint?" Notice how I'm even complimenting your knowledge in that statement? I also asked you several posts up to expand your explanation and help me better understand the specifics of painting. You can rip on me all you want, I am secure with myself so I can take it. However, we don't need people on this board who are going to sit here and try and pick fights. I would go into a few of the things about my car that may be unique, but I fear they would be lost on you. Take care man.

[TRDcelicaGT]

PS your pic looks photoshop suspect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://pstr-m03.ygpweb.aol.com/data2/00F/4A/EC/69/8E/8pZpeseIC17+CCOYIBlQWxXlP0Ez-PaM0180.jpg

[Cash Money]

Originally posted by Jesse IL
I went to House of Kolor's website...all it did was confuse the hell out of me. All I know is that at HIN last year, this dude had this Eclipse that was an amazing pearl-looking (not getting into specifics here) blue. I asked the dude what the paint was and he said House of Kolor Kandy Blue. That was as far as I was concerned with it. Frankly, I wouldn't spend this type of kwon on a daily driven car...too much happens to the paint.

And is anyone else disappointed that Gumby's car turned out to be that color after how much he knows about paint?

well...i think you're a lil' confused here... if it was a Kandy paint, it has a Kandy look...there's no confusion here...a true kandy you could "look" through the color to the base...pearls sometimes tend to haze this ability...and i personally think if you put a pearl overtop a kandy kinda defeats the purpose a bit...i've seen it done once and it killed the look and effect...if you're talking about the shading effects... (i.e.) my paint changes from red to black to orange to a combination of all three...that's an effect of candy... just check out the one pic in my album of it sitting in the parking garage...it does no justice though...

my car's daily driven 8 months outta the year...and here and there during the winter and it's fine...granted i have chips here and there...but with that many coats of paint you can't get around it...but, even still, mine's done in Kosmic Kandy...much better shine, color, and durability...

you gotta look at the House of Kolors book and take it outside in the sunlight to get "kinda" of a idea of how the paint will come out...and believe me those lil' swatches do no justice either as you can't see the effects of kandy on that small of a swatch...they don't put their colors on the website cause you can't compare something you see on a computer to something in the sunlight in person...

JuicedCelica knows what he's talking about...thats the color he wanted so you gotta leave him be...it's his car, not anyone elses...you gotta look at the work, and comment on the work...not colors and personal preference of stuff done...just if it's done right... You gotta be happy with your own car since you drive it, see it everyday... would i slap hydro's on my car? no...but thats not my thing... would i want everyone to make their car's look, sound, and perform like mine...no ... the world would be a boring place if everyone did the same things... variety is the spice of life...

but even still... Juiced... you gotta chill and don't things so personal...don't be so over defensive... just take it that you're happy with what you got and thats it... if you point out things and someone disagrees, just chill and write that you don't agree without resorting to name calling and the sort, even if you don't start it... just chill... everyone chill... :)

[Jesse IL]

All I'm saying is that if I spent that much money on paint, I'd freak out when birds sht on my car and stuff. At least with my stock paint, I can just shrug my shoulders when stuff like that happens ;) BTW, Cash Money...not my style as far as colors, but the paint job looks really nice. And I completely understand the difference between pearl and kandy now, I've seen cars like that in real life. My main confusion is that it doesn't sound like i could just say "I want my car painted such and so color". Its like there's about twelve things you need to decide.

[juicedcelica]

trdcelicagt...ask chico or a few other people from az the celica is real not photo shop... this is what was thought last year and what do you know it came out in Euro lowrider oct/nov of 2001 the exact same way it appered on this bored.... as far as what I said about 3 stage paints I was saying this is the correct way to do it... factor while it might be exceptable to most it is cheap I had it on my car for three months before I had the car repainted the same red but with clear coat added.

Cash money .... I understand what your saying about my defensivness no one on this web site pics out flaws on my car the hit on personal prefereance or they say it is photo shop.... every thing that has been done to my car has been done with the highest of quality ... from the welds to the body work,hydraulics , paint, interior... there really aren't any flaws on the car if someone was pointing out flaws on my car I could understand that look into and get it fixed .... I have people like trdcelicagt saying it is photo shop because it is out of the ordinary I have done modifications to the celica that no one else has or will do ... that to me is ignorance he post on a subject that he admits to having no knowledge on he's right there is a single stage pearl but it is the cheap factory way of doing it... the original question on this post was METAL FLAKE and then someone sayed it was called pearl if people could stick to posting on subjects that they have knowledge on hard time would not come about debates over right and wrong would not be here ... also the person who posted the original question would not be confused worse then before... If you notice I don't post in performance mods unless I am also having the same problem performance is not my specailty I pay for those parts and I usually pay to have them installed because I am not knowledge able on those situations... Paint is something I know I have built my car twice while I am not the painter I am involved in the build up I am working on the car while it is in the shop I am learning and asking questions... while my car was being built this time 2 cover vehicles came out of PLATINUM KONCEPTZ I followed the build of those... one of them was finagens tacoma from mini truckin there were 70 colors laid on the passenger side alone all of them house of colors... candies,pearls, marbilizer's, air brushing ... body and paint related questions I can post with confidence that I am not steering anyone in the wrong direction. for anyone who wants to flame me or my car you need to bring some knowledge and not just yell photo shop

[chameleon]

I was extremely close to getting a House of Kolor pearl paint job like cash money has, but in the end I went with the house of Kolors Kameleon because of it repairability, which is an issue with the pearl paint jobs. I just thought that it was worth mentioning to anyone who is interested in putting a pear paint job on their Celica. I noticed from driving around that my factory paint job seemed particularly prone to chipping damage. I don't know why, maybe it's because the Celica sits so low to the ground, or maybe it's the areodynamics of the car, but it seems like an abnormal amount of road debres hits the front of the car and damages the front bumper. With the House of Colors Kameleon, repainting the front bumper every few years is no big deal. With a pearl paint job, it's darn near impossable.

The problem with a three stage paint is that it is unbeleavably difficult to accurately match the paint. If you get into a small fender bender accident and your front bumper gets all scratched up and needs to be repainted, you may have to repaint the entire car to get it all to match up correctly. I'm not saying that pearl paint jobs are bad, I may get one on one of my cars some day, but the Celica is a daily driver for me during the summer, and I couldn't afford to repaint the whole car whenever something happens to it. Because of this, pearl paint jobs are really more for show cars only that you rarely ever drive on the street. The only cars I ever see with them are show cars or high dollar hot rods. Which, on the other hand, makes it all the more cool and unique if you can afford it. :)

[Cash Money]

hmmm... ok two things...

First: I have a 3-stage "Kandy" paintjob... not a pearl... there's a big difference...sorry, don't take this the wrong way...

Second: you are exactly right... it's damn near impossible to touch up this paint... it can be done as i just learned the right way to do it from my body man... it is pretty prone to chips do to how thick the paint is on the car... my insurance also jumped up a lil' because of the paintjob... If my car gets damaged in anyway, the whole car gets reshot... and these paintjobs are not cheap what so ever... a short example why is that my car was in the booth for 23 hours not including the prep, sealing, prime'n of the car... matching pearls is the same problem but a lil' easier pending on how the pearl was staged in (mixed in base, lone 2nd stage, mixed in 2nd stage, mixed in clear)... a pearl takes more of a beating as compared to a Kandy...

[gt-sbaby]

To all... cashmoney and juicedcelica are completely right. Did someone say carbon blue was a pearl? it's actually not a true pearl, because as juice said, a pearl is a powder added to a clear coat.

I've had my car painted 3 friggin times now, and I've done a lot of research and talked with the experts at house of kolor. I finally ended up going without a kandy or pearl because my car is a daily driver. Not that the paint scheme I have would be easy to repair anyway...

But House of Kolor does have probably the best paint. And there's really no reason for anyone to be getting nasty... aren't we all just trying to share knowledge? lol...

[baNanA_ryCe]

Originally posted by TRDcelicaGT
PS your pic looks photoshop suspect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://pstr-m03.ygpweb.aol.com/data2/00F/4A/EC/69/8E/8pZpeseIC17+CCOYIBlQWxXlP0Ez-PaM0180.jpg

:stupid:

...this is NOT a photoshopped car. Apparantly you've been living under a rock for the past year or you'd know his car isn't a photoshop. :rolleyes:

my cousin has a white integra with a purple pearl coat on it. and that is NOT sparkly, and is NOT anything even remotely CLOSE to sparkly and shiny.

[y2kflamecelica]

actually carbon blue is a true pearl but it is put in the base coat instead of the 2nd pearl coat but it is the same exact pearl almost everything juicedcelica is exactly right i work at a bodyshop and have been doing this stuff for about 8 years now....we mix all of our own paints which is what most bodyshops do it's just people use differnt brands based on prefferance....

[Jesse IL]

Spectra blue is a pearl as well...

[selika2000]

Originally posted by TRDcelicaGT
PS your pic looks photoshop suspect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://pstr-m03.ygpweb.aol.com/data2/00F/4A/EC/69/8E/8pZpeseIC17+CCOYIBlQWxXlP0Ez-PaM0180.jpg

Sorry to bust your bubble and everything, but I've seen juicedcelica's car in person.. and it's not photochopped. However, now he lives in Ohio, so all the people who are in the North Central board can go look at it.. and see for themselves. :)

[buckeye23]

I'll be able to check it out in person one of these days. As soon as he checks back in and decides to set something up. We're planning 3 or 4 meets in the next couple months, so we'll see...

[selika2000]

Originally posted by buckeye23
I'll be able to check it out in person one of these days. As soon as he checks back in and decides to set something up. We're planning 3 or 4 meets in the next couple months, so we'll see...

If you got AIM, you can IM him, at limecelica .

[cRuNkMuZiK02]

I want to get a custom paint job for my celica (when it finally arrives). I was thinking to get red, dark red or purpulish red :)
The paint has to have lots of shiny sparkles in it. I don't know how this paint is called exactly.
Does anyone have pictures or url's to websites for more info?
...or comment?

Thanks in advance.
-MfS-


Ive painted red with gold metallic flakes, that bitch pops like crazy.

[Frozen Celica]

Got any pics of that paint job Crunk? Really curious how she looks!

[oneflyasianguy]

if you go to a body shop or place that sells house of kolor paint the will have a booklet of pearls and Kandy kolors, pearls are translucent top coats that you can only see the color from an angle, very subtle. Kandy is a very metallic base coat with translucent top coats (usually around 5 coats) to give the paint a hard deep gloss, like when you pull a lollipop out of your mouth. the booklet shows each kandy kolor in a a row over like 15 different base coats and you can see all the color variations (beware after seeing the booklet you will want one!)
im going for pagan gold over base coat 9 (green).

[BizkitOO]

I want to get a custom paint job for my celica (when it finally arrives). I was thinking to get red, dark red or purpulish red :)
The paint has to have lots of shiny sparkles in it. I don't know how this paint is called exactly.
Does anyone have pictures or url's to websites for more info?
...or comment?

Thanks in advance.
-MfS-


Ive painted red with gold metallic flakes, that bitch pops like crazy.

Seriously, what was the point of bringing this thread back up that is almost 3 years old, for that comment?

[00celica00gt]

:stupid:

...this is NOT a photoshopped car. Apparantly you've been living under a rock for the past year or you'd know his car isn't a photoshop. :rolleyes:

my cousin has a white integra with a purple pearl coat on it. and that is NOT sparkly, and is NOT anything even remotely CLOSE to sparkly and shiny.


I think its pretty obvious that it is chopped. you can barley see the rear wheel.

[X-EVIL-X]

I think its pretty obvious that it is chopped. you can barley see the rear wheel.
lol i sat in that car and flipped the switches. its not a photoshop but that car is long gone...
you know what happens when you slam a celica the back tire slants in and you barely see it like that.

[cRuNkMuZiK02]

Got any pics of that paint job Crunk? Really curious how she looks!

Yeh, i got pictures but uhh. Im computer illiterate, I dunno how the scanner works. lol. I only use the computer to go on NC.org, EC.com, and Cardomain.com, and the occasional Autotrader and KBB.com

[cRuNkMuZiK02]

Seriously, what was the point of bringing this thread back up that is almost 3 years old, for that comment?

I wasnt here 3 years ago, so cut people some slack, if your not going to help the situation, dont comment.

[X-EVIL-X]

yea but you didnt have to go search for some ghey ass thread and post in it.
make your own new one

[evil eye]

Seriously, what was the point of bringing this thread back up that is almost 3 years old, for that comment?


:werd:

I wasnt here 3 years ago, so cut people some slack, if your not going to help the situation, dont comment.


You didn't bring this thread back up, the fool quoted below me did.

If you got AIM, you can IM him, at limecelica .