New information on legal issues and Nitrous****

[cruzerz545]

So I am taking this hazardes materials first responder operations course and we were talking about hazardous materials and trucks and how much they can and can not carry.

Legally, in all of the United State, England, Mexico, and Canada you can carry "NO MORE" then 1001 lbs of hazardous materials of any kind. BUT you have to have a DOT approved "plat" half red, half white "DANGER" sign on your vehicle. This is a UN standard and can not be changed in local jusristictions. Any vehicle is authorized to carry hazards as long as they have that plat.

If you carry anything more then 1001lbs then you have to have a permit and more DOT approved plats.

http://safety.science.tamu.edu/images/DANGEROUSDOT.gif




Placards are not required for:
class 6.2 (infectious substances)
ORM-D
division 1.4S
limited quantity (LTD QTY) shipments when identified as such on shipping papers
hazardous material shipments (from 2D only) weighing less than 1001 lbs (454 kg)
combustible liquids in non-bulk packaging
intermodal tanks which have been cleaned of residue and purged of vapor to remove any hazard
radioactive white I and yellow II labels
cryogenic atmospheric gases, other than oxygen (example: argon)

[nexceli216]

hey i want one of those signs just to put on my car, plus i have nitrous too, but would i get pulled over for having that legitament sign?

[cruzerz545]

thats just it, dont get pulled over ;-)
I would just pay the fine if they actually take them to court. I will post something to keep in your car to hand to cops if you do get pulled over. Then you can settle it there and then

[RedNOSceli]

Originally posted by cruzerz545
So I am taking this hazardes materials first responder operations course and we were talking about hazardous materials and trucks and how much they can and can not carry.

Legally, in all of the United State, England, Mexico, and Canada you can carry "NO MORE" then 1001 lbs of hazardous materials of any kind. BUT you have to have a DOT approved "plat" half red, half white "DANGER" sign on your vehicle. This is a UN standard and can not be changed in local jusristictions. Any vehicle is authorized to carry hazards as long as they have that plat.

If you carry anything more then 1001lbs then you have to have a permit and more DOT approved plats.

http://safety.science.tamu.edu/images/DANGEROUSDOT.gif




Placards are not required for:
class 6.2 (infectious substances)
ORM-D
division 1.4S
limited quantity (LTD QTY) shipments when identified as such on shipping papers
hazardous material shipments (from 2D only) weighing less than 1001 lbs (454 kg)
combustible liquids in non-bulk packaging
intermodal tanks which have been cleaned of residue and purged of vapor to remove any hazard
radioactive white I and yellow II labels
cryogenic atmospheric gases, other than oxygen (example: argon)
Luckly nitrous doesnt have any of those properties...Its non-flamable, and very safe..

[FL Honda Stompr]

Originally posted by RedNOSceli

Luckly nitrous doesnt have any of those properties...Its non-flamable, and very safe..

Yup, n2o does not fit into any of those categories.

[cruzerz545]

Nitrous is explosive and is a combistibal, but its ont flammable. Its still very much as hazardass material. It also can cause itchy eyes, skin, dizzyness and death if contaminated.

[RedNOSceli]

Originally posted by cruzerz545
Nitrous is explosive and is a combistibal, but its ont flammable. Its still very much as hazardass material. It also can cause itchy eyes, skin, dizzyness and death if contaminated.

Wrong and wrong....That itchy eyes/skin is caused by the sulfer dioxide mixed with automotive nitrous to prevent people from huffing it....



Combustible and Flammable are almost the exact same thing...Ita not explosive either....The reason bottles explode is because of the pressure and people not keeping on top of there safty valves, IE, leave a can of Coke in your car and it will explode due the gas inside heating up and expanding. Now is the the Coke Explosive, I think not...

Just an FYI....

[ArchangelX]

Yeps...I've already did the research guys. That stuff you're talking about does not apply to us. You're talking DOT restrictions and guidelines for the transportation of hazardous chemicals and substances. I've taken a buncha HAZMAT classes also, along with HAZCOM, and that stuff doesn't apply to N20.

Nitrous is not considered a hazardous material. It's laughing gas for godsakes..heheh. Same stuff the doctors use in the operating room.

As for hazardous labels, we don't require any placards or labels, not even a firefighter.

I did alotta research and so far, the only state I found that has got anything remotely dealing with the use of nitrous in an automotive context is Georgia, which is trying to outlaw it. I'm not sure if the bill passed, but after talking to a couple (4 actually) separate state troopers here in Washington, they said there's no legal instances saying that you can't use it or have it installed.

It's when and WHY you use it that counts. Alot of trucks that carry heavy loads have nitrous kits installed for those huge hills that they have trouble taking...

At least, that's the state of Washington. I'll give a few of my friends that work in the CHP a call sometime this week, see what they say.

[cruzerz545]

Nicely put man.



Originally posted by ArchangelX
Yeps...I've already did the research guys. That stuff you're talking about does not apply to us. You're talking DOT restrictions and guidelines for the transportation of hazardous chemicals and substances. I've taken a buncha HAZMAT classes also, along with HAZCOM, and that stuff doesn't apply to N20.

Nitrous is not considered a hazardous material. It's laughing gas for godsakes..heheh. Same stuff the doctors use in the operating room.

As for hazardous labels, we don't require any placards or labels, not even a firefighter.

I did alotta research and so far, the only state I found that has got anything remotely dealing with the use of nitrous in an automotive context is Georgia, which is trying to outlaw it. I'm not sure if the bill passed, but after talking to a couple (4 actually) separate state troopers here in Washington, they said there's no legal instances saying that you can't use it or have it installed.

It's when and WHY you use it that counts. Alot of trucks that carry heavy loads have nitrous kits installed for those huge hills that they have trouble taking...

At least, that's the state of Washington. I'll give a few of my friends that work in the CHP a call sometime this week, see what they say.

[FastDriver]

Yeah, uh, the hills here in FL can be a bitch to...uh... drive up sometimes, and I need to get over them quickly.... That's why I need this stuff.

Chris

[ArchangelX]

Welps..you know...trying to climb up to the top of Mt. Rainer can be a bitch...but I figure if I can get a 1000 shot of nitrous, I can get to the top pretty quickly. :D

Oh, and thanks. :)

[00CericaRuss]

there's hills in FL?

(i've never been.. can you tell?)

[ArchangelX]

Umm..that was sarcasm I think.

There are marshes though...er..maybe he needs it to hydroplane across the top of them or something...like those reed boats?