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xfactor
04-17-2007, 01:49 PM
Hey fellas, can somebody tell me where I can find a less expensive and a good front rotors for GT?

My front wheels started shaking when breaking and I pretty much sure it's the rotor. Alignment is fine & break pads are fairly new.

delija_16
04-17-2007, 01:54 PM
http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240262 look in there, just pm them our call and I'm sure they'll give you a good deal. Also you might want to check www.tirerack.com

neological
04-18-2007, 09:48 AM
Most asked question of the the month.

Why is it that people who need new rotors can't use the search feature?

delija_16
04-18-2007, 12:16 PM
Maybe because they don't know what they are looking for?? I can find lots of test results and stuff like that but since I don't know anything about that anyways, it's just better for me to ask you guys who already have them on. Right??

drewd
04-18-2007, 01:09 PM
I believe larryd posted a while back telling you guys to just give the newbs answers instead of saying "search".

Get some powerslot, they're not very expensive.

delija_16
04-18-2007, 01:23 PM
Thank you drewd, I guess that's why thses forums are for. By the way what fog lights do you have on your car, cuz I was thinking of putting mines in the same spot as yours.

kimGT
04-18-2007, 04:48 PM
well normally it'd be ok to ask but two other people asked the same question just this week and there are plenty of answers there. neological pointed out some nice cryo-treated rotors, wouldn't mind trying them out.

lpphreakx06
04-18-2007, 06:00 PM
I have powerslots, they are good!

fatboys2zz
04-18-2007, 07:45 PM
^^ same here powerslots F&R im good. dont forget some performance pads its a must.

drewd
04-18-2007, 07:57 PM
And steel braided lines and might aswell flush the brake fluid..

D_CeLiRaToR
04-18-2007, 09:12 PM
i like my powerslots with hawk hps pads. still have to get ss lines installed.

booyaolian
04-18-2007, 11:20 PM
anyone knows if powerslot plus (oversized) rotors are worth it?

kimGT
04-19-2007, 02:23 AM
anyone knows if powerslot plus (oversized) rotors are worth it?

I think someone mentioned that the AEM kit was pretty much the same as the powerslot one. Spiderlegz (whatever his name was) posted pics of his pad wear on the AEM kit and it only wore the inner part of the pad. so the bracket wasn't allowing full contact of the pad and rotor. I'm not sure if the powerslot is the same but after that i kinda steered clear of any kits like that. pads, lines and rotors and you should be good. (good fluid too)

xfactor
04-19-2007, 07:16 AM
Most asked question of the the month.

Why is it that people who need new rotors can't use the search feature?

And, why is it that people like you keep posting a thread if they don't want to answer questions?

Dude, if you are going to use your "precious" time to post something it might as well be the answer to the question or zip it!

As for the rest of you guys, thanks for the input. Looks like Powerslot is favorable among many of you and it certainly is not bad on the pricing too...//

neological
04-19-2007, 08:11 AM
And, why is it that people like you keep posting a thread if they don't want to answer questions?

Dude, if you are going to use your "precious" time to post something it might as well be the answer to the question or zip it!

As for the rest of you guys, thanks for the input. Looks like Powerslot is favorable among many of you and it certainly is not bad on the pricing too...//
Quit putting words into my mouth and get off your high horse. It's ignorant and uninformed to think that I don't give a lot of advice here and answer a lot of dumb questions with a straight face. I'm just explaining how you can best obtain the answers you want. I could say "Frozen Rotors" for the 4th time this week but I can't reprise everyone else's sound advice (btw Frozen Rotors aka. Diversified Crygenics is the company that cryotreats PowerSlot rotors so their prices are cheaper).

You'd best consult the previous threads and you could get far more info than you would probably get replies in this thread. You're being a solipsist, people are here to help but you have to do just a teeny-tiny bit of due dilligence beforehand.

Please, please be less butthurt. You could have just looked down the list of currently open threads and found a lot of answers but my bet is you didn't even bother.

neological
04-19-2007, 08:21 AM
anyone knows if powerslot plus (oversized) rotors are worth it?
No.

The only advantage is that they would dissipate heat slightly (and I mean slightly) better. Your caliper is sized properly for the rotor diameter that comes with the car, changing the proportions of the rotor don't make the caliper work any better. There would be no change to braking feel or stopping distance, fade may decrease slightly but this wouldn't do a lot to help. If you don't go to the track this upgrade is pointless. If you do go to the track you could probably spend your money in better places (StopTech rotors for instance would probably remain cooler with the stock rotor size due to the interior vane design).

They also might totally fvck up your ABS if you have it.

booyaolian
04-19-2007, 02:20 PM
i see that in the other thread that you told the guy to pull out abs fuse and enjoy regular brakes. how do you brake a non-abs car properly?

neological
04-19-2007, 06:12 PM
My celica had no ABS. An Evo RS has no ABS. The car stops just fine except the wheels will lock up under hard braking. In dry conditions a lot of good drivers can outbrake ABS but it's much more helpful in limited traction.

A lot of autocrossers and track people disable their ABS especially if their car uses an old system.

Zero
04-19-2007, 06:38 PM
Xfactor, make sure that the shaking isn't caused by sticking-calipers. Or is that when you're driving and you feel a vibration coming from the front wheels? :shrugs:

Oh well, factor that in too, along with warped rotors.

lpphreakx06
04-19-2007, 07:16 PM
I hate to repeat it but don't get the [powerslot] oversized rotors. They arent worth it and the regular size rotors will be more than enough.

xfactor
04-20-2007, 12:51 PM
Xfactor, make sure that the shaking isn't caused by sticking-calipers. Or is that when you're driving and you feel a vibration coming from the front wheels? :shrugs:

Oh well, factor that in too, along with warped rotors.

You know it never occurred to me to check the calipers. Good point! But as for the vibration, it is when breaking/slowing down say from 80. In some cases, if i break hard when some slow a$$ people decide to get in my way, I will feel the shaking on the steering wheel too.

neological
04-20-2007, 01:49 PM
Have you looked into having your rotors resurfaced? Rotors don't actually "warp" per se, the surface just becomes unven due to deposits or uneven brake pad wear. Resurfacing removes a small layer of the rotor by machining it flat on a lathe. A good brakes shop can do that if your rotors are in good condition for a relatively nominal fee.

TRDoug
04-20-2007, 01:56 PM
Do the powerslots or other aftermarket rotors rust? I don't like the rusty goo that flys out and gets on my rims!! HAHA

neological
04-20-2007, 02:14 PM
All rotor faces rust if they're made out of steel. Get some carbon ceramic ones, they cost thousands of dollars.

TRDoug
04-20-2007, 02:17 PM
haha :thumbup: Sorry, I meant if they are coated then will the rest of rust. The desription in the parts area says that powerslot rottors are coated to protect them from the elements and prevent rust. The rust goo I'm talkin about comes from between the rotor surfaces, where water collects in the vents.

neological
04-20-2007, 02:32 PM
When DCM vacations at the north carolina coast every year there are many kinds of brake rotors on all of the cars and they all rust.

TRDoug
04-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Cool cool, just wondering. I'm going with Powerslot and Hawk HPS in a month or so. I have a gt so I should prolly just get stock rear drums and shoes right?(I think that's all there is anyway)

booyaolian
04-21-2007, 10:52 AM
My celica had no ABS. An Evo RS has no ABS. The car stops just fine except the wheels will lock up under hard braking. In dry conditions a lot of good drivers can outbrake ABS but it's much more helpful in limited traction.

A lot of autocrossers and track people disable their ABS especially if their car uses an old system.
so how do you prevent the wheels from locking up under hard braking? i heard people say if you know how to brake, a non-abs equipped car is better, but no one has explained HOW.

TRDoug
04-21-2007, 11:23 AM
It's called "Threshold Braking", it comes from experience of driving your car and knowing the point where the wheels "lock up". Pressing the brake pedal until you get to the amount of brake pressure needed right before they lock up.

ABS, when you stomp on the brake, puts the brakes on and off very quickly, so there are times(even though the brake pedal is applied) that the brakes are letting the wheels still spin, BRAKE SPIN BRAKE SPIN BRAKE SPIN BRAKE SPIN(with only a fraction of a second in between BRAKE and SPIN for as long as the brakes are applied.
SO allowing the wheels to SPIN on and off, takes more distance because the wheels still turn a little, so you can still steer without skidding.

When you threshold brake, you are constantly squeezing the brakes at the highest possible pressure without locking them up, so the wheels are constantly deccelerating which in turn slows you down faster.

I hope that makes sense:gap:

kimGT
04-21-2007, 11:43 AM
wow, i don't think i could have put it better myself. ^^

david.mcmahon1
04-21-2007, 01:02 PM
ebay-screw retail-botu 75 a pair

drewd
04-21-2007, 01:21 PM
Yeah if you want trash :jerkoff:

Zero
04-21-2007, 04:47 PM
It's called "Threshold Braking", it comes from experience of driving your car and knowing the point where the wheels "lock up". Pressing the brake pedal until you get to the amount of brake pressure needed right before they lock up.

ABS, when you stomp on the brake, puts the brakes on and off very quickly, so there are times(even though the brake pedal is applied) that the brakes are letting the wheels still spin, BRAKE SPIN BRAKE SPIN BRAKE SPIN BRAKE SPIN(with only a fraction of a second in between BRAKE and SPIN for as long as the brakes are applied.
SO allowing the wheels to SPIN on and off, takes more distance because the wheels still turn a little, so you can still steer without skidding.

When you threshold brake, you are constantly squeezing the brakes at the highest possible pressure without locking them up, so the wheels are constantly deccelerating which in turn slows you down faster.

I hope that makes sense:gap:

wow, i don't think i could have put it better myself. ^^

:werd:
I never knew it had a name. I've been able to escape crashing doing this method.

shakey1378
04-21-2007, 04:59 PM
i have rotora slotted with axxis pads feel really good, powerslot and hawk pads also very good and not to pricey call or pm invision celica he has great prices and fast shipping i have oem size and they are more than good enought for street use

xfactor
04-22-2007, 12:52 PM
Have you looked into having your rotors resurfaced? Rotors don't actually "warp" per se, the surface just becomes unven due to deposits or uneven brake pad wear. Resurfacing removes a small layer of the rotor by machining it flat on a lathe. A good brakes shop can do that if your rotors are in good condition for a relatively nominal fee.


Yeah, I have thought about that too. But I never knew how good the rotors are. I never had them changed since I bought my car. But the guy from the shop told me to replace or resurface them when i had my pads changed ( BTW:I didn't resurface them back then)

I know it's hard to say without looking at the rotor, but how far will i usually go before I need to buy new ones?

neological
04-22-2007, 01:00 PM
I work in VA, if you want to bring it by Alexandria I'll look at it for you.