Fuel Injector Cleaners.....

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

well, I use Chevron Techron.
But I was just wondering if anyone has had any good/bad
experiences with any of the other cleaners out there.
Or even if you have opinions of weather or not these products are useful.......

[VZV21]

Best stuff out there is BG 44K (www.bgprod.com) use it once or twice a year.

[cybrpunk]

DON'T PUT NONE OF THAT CRAP IN YOUR GAS TANK! I used STP Fuel injector cleaner and my car and it damaged my catalytic converter. The guy at the toyota service dept said that i must have put somthing in the gas tank in order to damage my cat. The only thing i put in there was the cleaner.

[Chris25NJ]

how often did you use it? I have used Chevron Techron once, and it made a huge difference. I'll prob use it once or twice a year. Chevron specifically states that their product will not cause harm to other components in your car, such as your cat.

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

Yeah, I have heard that the onluy thing that really makes a diffrence is the CHev. Tech. stuff.... though I have not heard of that "BG 44K" stuff... I'll check it out

[CBGTVA]

BG is about the best there is. You probably won't find it at any auto parts stores but every Toyota dealer that I've visited has it in their parts department.

[VZV21]

Warning though, it's expensive stuff, about $20 for a can of it.

It's expensive, I tried it (and everything else), and well, before I went diesel, I was religious in using it twice a year (on my aging Camry). Once a year is more than adequate, for newer cars.

i use the 4k miles stp fuel cleaner system everytime i get an oil change. no problems for me. if anything my gas per mileage is extended for the first couple of tanks. i think i once used the one produced by NOS with no issues.

[red lucifer]

how do you change the fuel filter?

[jlevy]

I use the Redline fuel system cleaner. I can't say that I've had any good or bad exeperiences with it yet since my car is new.

[MYSELF AND I]

This is important to all GTS 2000+ celica owners

i have a 2002 celica GTS 6 speed . Here is my story , I changed my oil from 5w30 to 10w30 thinking it was better because of the summer. Well all i can say i had serious knocking problems when letting out the clutch at 1st gear between 1000-2300 rpm. I thought it was the dam gas , so i dumped octain booster , fuel injector cleaner and still nothing. I thought my engine was messed up after only 3000 miles. So i went ahead and put 5w30 back in and i didnt see the knocking disapear until the next day of driving. So be warned dont put crap oil in or use cheap oil filters with this car. Also when i did get my last oil change i used castrol gtx 5w30 from jiffey lube but they still use cheap ass generic oil filters so im going to bring my own next time. I see a big difference now that i have 5w30 in.
Now with fuel cleaners i have used alot of different ones since i thought my past problem was gas related. The best one is a special bottle that says IMPORT fuel or octain booster . It is specialy used for our cars. I noticed a huge improvment in horsepower and reaction from the throtle using the Import fuel cleaner. I tried some crap too called racing octain gas which supposely rasies my octain level to 108 which was total BS because i didnt feel a difference.
Trust me go to PEP Boys and look for a bottle called Import car or something cleaner. I cant remember what it was called exactly but it did say import on the bottle. And remember dont use cheap ass oil and 10w30

later

[mac340]

i have always heard if you use Cheveron Supreme it does a good job because it already has Techron in it.

[Fiero]

Originally posted by mac340
i have always heard if you use Cheveron Supreme it does a good job because it already has Techron in it.


I don't recall the site but they tested Cheveron Supreme with Techron and it takes 40 hours of non-stop usuage (no filling up anywhere else) for it to work. Most of the gas additives were proven to be snake oil though. They had some luck with the more expensive/potent variety.

[z6joker9]

Originally posted by MYSELF AND I
This is important to all GTS 2000+ celica owners

i have a 2002 celica GTS 6 speed . Here is my story , I changed my oil from 5w30 to 10w30 thinking it was better because of the summer. Well all i can say i had serious knocking problems when letting out the clutch at 1st gear between 1000-2300 rpm. I thought it was the dam gas , so i dumped octain booster , fuel injector cleaner and still nothing. I thought my engine was messed up after only 3000 miles. So i went ahead and put 5w30 back in and i didnt see the knocking disapear until the next day of driving. So be warned dont put crap oil in or use cheap oil filters with this car. Also when i did get my last oil change i used castrol gtx 5w30 from jiffey lube but they still use cheap ass generic oil filters so im going to bring my own next time. I see a big difference now that i have 5w30 in.
Now with fuel cleaners i have used alot of different ones since i thought my past problem was gas related. The best one is a special bottle that says IMPORT fuel or octain booster . It is specialy used for our cars. I noticed a huge improvment in horsepower and reaction from the throtle using the Import fuel cleaner. I tried some crap too called racing octain gas which supposely rasies my octain level to 108 which was total BS because i didnt feel a difference.
Trust me go to PEP Boys and look for a bottle called Import car or something cleaner. I cant remember what it was called exactly but it did say import on the bottle. And remember dont use cheap ass oil and 10w30

later

A: Octane booster is crap

B: Even with 108 octane, you wont notice an increase in power, in fact, you'll probably LOOSE power. The engine won't run hot enough to burn it all properly, and all you'll do is shoot flames from the exhaust(unburnt gas hitting the exhaust manifold) which will damage your sensors and exhaust system.

C: Do you even know what 5w30 and 10w30 means?

D: Do you know what "knock" is and what causes it?

I'm not trying to be mean, i'm really not, but passing off knowledge when you have none is not a good idea, some people might listen to you.

Back to the topic:
Honestly, i really doubt that injector cleaner works that well. You should send them off to a company that will measure their output before they clean it and then after, or buy new ones. If it's strong enough to actually clean those things well, then it probably too strong to run through the rest of the fuel system.

[MYSELF AND I]

I noticed you drive a GT well your car is totally different from a GTS when it comes to what octain your engine needs. You could easily run 87 octain with no problems. My car has a higher compression which means it needs the correct oil or gas to run propperly.
well i gave my experience about my car which is a GTS not a GT so people can either take the advice or dont listen to it at all.
Do what the GTS manual says
5w30
93 octain or higher

Fuel cleaners are good but fuel cleaners made espeacially for your car are better such as IMPORT system cleaners made for japenese engines.
bye

[gts24]

I use Amsoil 's fuel treatment package. www.amsoil.com

48k miles ... rodded on all day long, and no problems at all.

[VZV21]

Originally posted by MYSELF AND I

Fuel cleaners are good but fuel cleaners made espeacially for your car are better such as IMPORT system cleaners made for japenese engines.
bye

IMPORT car fuel system cleaner.....someone is hooked on marketing.

Motor oil weight doesn't have anything to do with knocking -- it's lubrication/protection/suspension of sludge (and some cooling)

Octane yes, do you know why? (do a search on the site)

[MYSELF AND I]

yo buy a 2000+ celica GTS and then talk
out

[gts24]

Originally posted by MYSELF AND I
yo buy a 2000+ celica GTS and then talk
out


ok................:rolleyes:

[djm221]

Only poeple that own a GT-S can know anything about general engine mechanics :gap:

[dragonglen]

Yo, MYSELF AND I, don't be an ignorant newbie. Most of the others who have posted in this thread have been around for quite a while, and they know their sh!t. Having a GT, or a GT-S, or a f*cking Ford Escort has nothing to do with knowledge. Instead of being ignorant, perhaps you should actually listen and read and think about some of the replies. You obviously don't know sh!t about your car or what's supposed to go in it if you think 10W30 will cause knocking. Hell, did you even read any of the packaging, or the user's manual? And onto octane booster. If you're running stock, it'll hurt you. If you're not running stock, you probably still don't need it. While you were correct in saying that the GT-S requires a higher octane rating than the GT is correct (actually, the reason is to make sure our engines don't knock), but if you can't take advantage of higher than 93 octane, it won't help, and I highly doubt your car can take advantage of it if you don't know the difference between 5W30 and 10W30, or what a higher octane does for your car.

Become educated about your car, then reply.

[dragonglen]

Oh, and before you bring in any b!tch @ss comments, I drive a 2000 GT-S, all mods done myself... as well as oil changes.

[MYSELF AND I]

Ok i drive a 2003 dodge viper

[MYSELF AND I]

Dragonlen you dont have to be educated to know your car and what is the right oil for the car. 5w30 is a heavier weight oil than 10w30 and the manual calls for 5w30 not 10w30. If you dont belive me than go put some 10w40 and some 89 octain into your GTS engine and tell me if you hear a knock. If you dont hear any knocks then i guess im not educated.

[gts24]

Originally posted by MYSELF AND I
Dragonlen you dont have to be educated to know your car and what is the right oil for the car. 5w30 is a heavier weight oil than 10w30 and the manual calls for 5w30 not 10w30. If you dont belive me than go put some 10w40 and some 89 octain into your GTS engine and tell me if you hear a knock. If you dont hear any knocks then i guess im not educated.


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[dragonglen]

WTF are you talking about? You should be educated before you start shooting your mouth off about things you know nothing about. Yes, you are correct that the manual calls for 5W30, and thank you for agreeing with me. Also, why the hell would I put either 10W40 oil in my car, or 89 octane for that matter? Have you ever bought oil? Have you read the packaging? Do you know what the numbers stand for? If not, then find out, then post here again. Until then, you're nothing. Oh, while you're at it, find out why the GT-S needs a higher octane than the GT, I think you should know that as well before spouting your mouth off.

As for my car, it doesn't matter whether you believe what I drive or not, since I can't fight ignorance. Instead of flaming, try and show some respect, most people here know much more about the Celica than you. You just might learn something. Your opinion is fine and appreciated, but try and back it up with actual facts next time.

For reference, I drive a:
2000 Celica GT-S 6-speed (newer shifting springs)
-AEM Intake
-TRD Lowering Springs
-Front and 3-point Rear Hypermotive Strut bars
-A few appearance mods (lights, matts, etc.)
-2 10" Rockford Fosgates pushed by an Optimus 280W Amp
-Other mods not installed (appearance)

[VZV21]

Originally posted by MYSELF AND I
Dragonlen you dont have to be educated to know your car and what is the right oil for the car. 5w30 is a heavier weight oil than 10w30 and the manual calls for 5w30 not 10w30. If you dont belive me than go put some 10w40 and some 89 octain into your GTS engine and tell me if you hear a knock. If you dont hear any knocks then i guess im not educated.

5w30 heavier than 10w30? Is this a typo?

(use the search function, the whole octane issue has been beat to death numerous times, and the 2ZZ has knock sensors, you' read what it does)

[daniel2880]

Originally posted by MYSELF AND I
Dragonlen you dont have to be educated to know your car and what is the right oil for the car. 5w30 is a heavier weight oil than 10w30 and the manual calls for 5w30 not 10w30. If you dont belive me than go put some 10w40 and some 89 octain into your GTS engine and tell me if you hear a knock. If you dont hear any knocks then i guess im not educated.


WTF ? ?? ??? ???? ????? ......... *sighhhh*

[ASM]

Wow!! 5w30 is heavier then 10w30?!?!?

If that was mean to be a joke, it was a good one! :stupid:

[dragonglen]

Thanks for the backup guys, for a while I thought they came up with a new way to define the different levels of oil :) :thumbup: :)

I actually have a case of both 5W30 and 10W30, the 5 for my car and the 10 for my truck, although I can get away with using 5 in the truck during the winter, but only if I think it's going to be a problem. I'm not going to touch the octane comments though. I understand the reason for some of the beliefs, but assumption does not equal truth.

I'm glad to know that the majority of the people know what's going on, and those that don't are reading and learning :)