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MasterGTS
06-15-2007, 11:07 AM
Im going to part out my car and sell it. I'm going to miss her so much. No more stares, or people asking what kind of car it is. No more random stops by people who want to ask me about my car. lol, won't miss the guy drinking a molson triple x cirling my car in the liqour store parking lot at 3pm in the afternoon though, wow that was wierd. i'll post pics. Im thinking about getting an S2000, STI, or BMW. STI's are wicked impossible to find. Beemer would be low key chill car to drive, no modding. S2000 i would drive the piss out of like the celly:). whats your suggestions people? i've found an s2k already with 4,900 miles for only 17,900 in showroom condition. With that price and mileage it's practically sold in my head. Much cheaper than the BMW and STI too.

lpphreakx06
06-15-2007, 11:08 AM
s2000.

2000BAMAGT-S
06-15-2007, 11:27 AM
hard to pass up that s2k for the price and quality. not to mention the low miles

MyCelicaYouNV
06-15-2007, 12:34 PM
s2k is a SLIGHT upgrade... seems like if you're going to go, you might as well go big. :shrugs:

MasterGTS
06-15-2007, 02:05 PM
0-60 in 6.6 ... going to 5.5...thats a good upgrade. On top of that turboing them=insane. tons of people on stock motors running 350whp reliably. get a headgasket mod(don't ask its new to me) and lowers your compression and your good up to 500whp on stock internals...many people are doing it. Tons are running on stock internals at around 450 whp with only 13-15psi. plus why would i want a 350Z? everyone and their grandma has a 350Z and wants one. I picked the celica because not everyone had one. It was all honda's and type r's and gsr's and rsx-s. I refuse to get a 350Z, I would get the 300ZX before that 350z garbage.

MyCelicaYouNV
06-15-2007, 02:11 PM
0-60 in 6.6 ... going to 5.5...thats a good upgrade. On top of that turboing them=insane. tons of people on stock motors running 350whp reliably. get a headgasket mod(don't ask its new to me) and lowers your compression and your good up to 500whp on stock internals...many people are doing it. Tons are running on stock internals at around 450 whp with only 13-15psi. plus why would i want a 350Z? everyone and their grandma has a 350Z and wants one. I picked the celica because not everyone had one. It was all honda's and type r's and gsr's and rsx-s. I refuse to get a 350Z, I would get the 300ZX before that 350z garbage.


I like the 350z, but im not sure where you got that from?

m3 for around 25k
evo
sti
cobra around 25-28

By the way, not everyone has a twin turbo 350z :)

I like the price of the s2k, insurance will be more then the celi, if that matters any.

Greener
06-15-2007, 05:52 PM
get an STI

Gas-n-Grease
06-15-2007, 11:20 PM
s2k is a SLIGHT upgrade... seems like if you're going to go, you might as well go big. :shrugs:
I wouldn't call it a SLIGHT upgrade. the car is RWD, handles better than the celica, and its a convertible. Compared to the S2000, the fun factor for the GT-S is nil. I still can't get use to its "infinite" redline. I say its a leap forward.
Not really sure about the insurance part though. I could be wrong but I think they're about the same.

themuffinman
06-16-2007, 10:24 AM
Im going to part out my car and sell it. I'm going to miss her so much. No more stares, or people asking what kind of car it is. No more random stops by people who want to ask me about my car. lol, won't miss the guy drinking a molson triple x cirling my car in the liqour store parking lot at 3pm in the afternoon though, wow that was wierd. i'll post pics. Im thinking about getting an S2000, STI, or BMW. STI's are wicked impossible to find. Beemer would be low key chill car to drive, no modding. S2000 i would drive the piss out of like the celly:). whats your suggestions people? i've found an s2k already with 4,900 miles for only 17,900 in showroom condition. With that price and mileage it's practically sold in my head. Much cheaper than the BMW and STI too.


STI is a slow piece of ****! Get an evo if you want awd turbo. Evo's out perform in EVERY area of racing.. straight, turns, accel, handling etc...

gokalper
06-16-2007, 05:32 PM
depends on what you want....sti will destroy the evo's awd handling...as far as top speed though evo wins....If you want something make a big upgrade...smth with comfort and speed that seats 4 easily. for me that would be a nice g35 coupe...or the subaru

MyCelicaYouNV
06-16-2007, 05:53 PM
I wouldn't call it a SLIGHT upgrade. the car is RWD, handles better than the celica, and its a convertible. Compared to the S2000, the fun factor for the GT-S is nil. I still can't get use to its "infinite" redline. I say its a leap forward.
Not really sure about the insurance part though. I could be wrong but I think they're about the same.



Covertible insurance > GTS insurance.


They both rev til forever, power band is late, like the gts.

Its rwd, its convertible, its honda so its got parts backing.

Not much of an upgrade in my opinion, i look at s2000s as chumps around here. Upgraded miata.


Also.. dont get me wrong... No doubt it is definitly an upgrade...but slightly compared to an evo or something.

nudge1201
06-18-2007, 08:50 AM
depends on what you want....sti will destroy the evo's awd handling...as far as top speed though evo wins....If you want something make a big upgrade...smth with comfort and speed that seats 4 easily. for me that would be a nice g35 coupe...or the subaru

Destroy??? Where do you get you info from, becuase you seem to be very missinformed?? The vast majority of head to head comparision say otherwise. I heavily research before my purchase. Even STI owner will say the same. The STI seem to be more comfortable, softer, and better for tearing up the dirt. While the evo is more track/tarmac dedicated setup with much quicker steering. The evo has short gearing and redlines at 155-160mph(STI would be 170ish at redline w/ enough power to get it there), its not a top speed car. But I do agree for comfort and speed the STI is the way to go, low end torque and more upscale interior is a plus also for all out no compromise performance go with the Evo IX.
MasterGTS I would definataly go with the S2k you found. If I didn't get such I great deal on a new IX I'd be driving an S2k.

bps1804
06-18-2007, 09:25 AM
I'd be careful with buying a used STi or Evo. Chances are whoever owned them drove the hell out of it and who knows what kind of shape it's in.


Personally, i would never buy either of those used...go for the s2k or the z.

Arctic-GTS
06-18-2007, 11:04 AM
Upgrade from your Celi to a 350Z! :wiggle:

Why was that guy raggin on Z's so much?

When I was trading in (or selling) the Celica I had a little list (in order) of what I'd get:
1) Nissan 350Z Touring
2) BMW M3 2003+
3) 93-98 Toyota Supra TT 6MT
4) 2000+ Ford Mustage Cobra SVT
5) 2000+ Ford Mustang Saleen
6) Honda S2000
7) Subaru WRX STI
8) Mitsubishi Evo
9) Mitsubishi Eclipse 2005+ (I would never)

Arctic-GTS
06-18-2007, 11:06 AM
0-60 in 6.6 ... going to 5.5...thats a good upgrade. On top of that turboing them=insane. tons of people on stock motors running 350whp reliably. get a headgasket mod(don't ask its new to me) and lowers your compression and your good up to 500whp on stock internals...many people are doing it. Tons are running on stock internals at around 450 whp with only 13-15psi. plus why would i want a 350Z? everyone and their grandma has a 350Z and wants one. I picked the celica because not everyone had one. It was all honda's and type r's and gsr's and rsx-s. I refuse to get a 350Z, I would get the 300ZX before that 350z garbage.

As for the headgasket mod, it refers to installing a thicker headgasket, which increases the size of the combustion chamber. This ultimately leads to lower compression ratio's. Common alternative to changing out the rotating assembly.

MasterGTS
06-18-2007, 11:15 AM
The last thing I wuold get is a Z. Everyone and the grandma wants one/has one. I bought a celica because its not a civic. I'll buy a s2k over a Z because its not so common. I like having a little exclusivity.

Btw, Hows the reliablility of an Evo compared to an STI? Last i checked STI was in the lead in means of reliability.

nudge1201
06-18-2007, 12:42 PM
Depends on what u do to those cars. I don't think used turboed cars are a good Idea if the previous owner didn't take proper care of it, ie. warming and cooling the turbo properly, high rpm clutch drops, or improper tuning. I have hear of no major issue in the Evo IX relibility, late model VIII's had 4th gear being weak on the 6 speed tranny. That applies to road racers who are breaking 4th from excessive heat from continuous tracking of the car. Driver burning up there clutchs, and issues with transfer case but I think most of that is abuse and hard launchs. The 4g63 is about as bullet proof an engine you can have, the stock engine is good for a reliable 400+whp with, 500whp+ and you probably won't be lasting to long on stock internals in comes down to proper tuning at that point for reliability. With just a TBE, flash, and k&N filter I'm putting down over 300whp.

themuffinman
06-18-2007, 06:14 PM
depends on what you want....sti will destroy the evo's awd handling...as far as top speed though evo wins....If you want something make a big upgrade...smth with comfort and speed that seats 4 easily. for me that would be a nice g35 coupe...or the subaru

I used to own an evo... G/f's cousin has an 06 sti. My 2003 evoVIII donkey punched his NEW sti.

I'd be careful with buying a used STi or Evo. Chances are whoever owned them drove the hell out of it and who knows what kind of shape it's in.


Personally, i would never buy either of those used...go for the s2k or the z.


Drove the **** out of mine :gap:

H311RasoR
06-18-2007, 07:25 PM
geesh yall are a bunch of celica haters heeheeheee... I LOVE MY GTS!!!!! i dont care if its faster or has more horses... i love my GTS. now about those parts.... how much.. what you got.. gimme gimme gimme!!!

themuffinman
06-18-2007, 07:28 PM
geesh yall are a bunch of celica haters heeheeheee... I LOVE MY GTS!!!!! i dont care if its faster or has more horses... i love my GTS. now about those parts.... how much.. what you got.. gimme gimme gimme!!!



her her! haha start listing buddy! lol

LightningRod
06-19-2007, 02:38 AM
OP ... the money you think you're saving buying a used sports car will be negated by higher insurance rates.

S2k and STi are very costly to ensure. BMW is not too bad unless it's an M3 which I doubt, but the reliability sucks and the repair bills will find a way to your wallet if not the insurance.

Lo_Pro_Life
06-19-2007, 03:57 AM
go with the s2000 but wait til the end of this year and look for the new s2000 CR model its got alot of good stuff kinda like the gt vs. the gt-s only the s2000 other trims are the gt and the CR trim is the GT-S so wait for it its worth it better motor stronger more HP and its lighter and it comes with a really nice outer set up problem with it is this......

Starting Price $52,000

how you got deep enough pockets.not sayin you dont just you know.

Carbonized_GT
06-19-2007, 04:00 AM
Upgrade from your Celi to a 350Z! :wiggle:

Why was that guy raggin on Z's so much?

When I was trading in (or selling) the Celica I had a little list (in order) of what I'd get:
1) Nissan 350Z Touring
2) BMW M3 2003+
3) 93-98 Toyota Supra TT 6MT



Wow a 350z over an M3 AND Supra?

LightningRod
06-19-2007, 04:05 AM
go with the s2000 but wait til the end of this year and look for the new s2000 CR model its got alot of good stuff kinda like the gt vs. the gt-s only the s2000 other trims are the gt and the CR trim is the GT-S so wait for it its worth it better motor stronger more HP and its lighter and it comes with a really nice outer set up problem with it is this......

Starting Price $52,000

how you got deep enough pockets.not sayin you dont just you know.


Go to sleep kid, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Motor is untouched and that price is ridiculuous. And pulling quotes from the F&F trilogy.

Carbonized_GT
06-19-2007, 04:16 AM
go with the s2000 but wait til the end of this year and look for the new s2000 CR model its got alot of good stuff kinda like the gt vs. the gt-s only the s2000 other trims are the gt and the CR trim is the GT-S so wait for it its worth it better motor stronger more HP and its lighter and it comes with a really nice outer set up problem with it is this......

Starting Price $52,000

how you got deep enough pockets.not sayin you dont just you know.


Go to sleep kid, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Motor is untouched and that price is ridiculuous. And pulling quotes from the F&F trilogy.


How the hell did i miss that comment!?

LightningRod
06-19-2007, 04:23 AM
BTW the rear wing on the CR is atrocious and it's Honda's last-ditch effort to move as many S2000s as they can before the redesign comes, much like Nissan with their NISMO edition Z.

Carbonized_GT
06-19-2007, 04:34 AM
Considering I have yet to throw my $.02 in, I say drive every car that comes to mind. When I was shopping around for a replacement for my celica I drove everything ranging from a IS300, MR-S, STi, Evo, 350z, X-Runner. S2000, Supra(NA), RX7, and finally my RX8.

The reason I chose the RX8 over the rest is because it gave me the greatest pleasure in all areas(speed/comfort/100k WARRANTY/refinement). Also I removed the Supra from the choices because I felt it was unnecessary to have the same car as my Mother.

Now based on that, it would be common of me to say go for an RX-8, but everyone has different tastes. So drive all the cars people have suggested here, and others, find the one that puts the biggest smile on your face and your wallet.

MasterGTS
06-21-2007, 05:48 AM
Covertible insurance > GTS insurance.


They both rev til forever, power band is late, like the gts.

Its rwd, its convertible, its honda so its got parts backing.

Not much of an upgrade in my opinion, i look at s2000s as chumps around here. Upgraded miata.


Also.. dont get me wrong... No doubt it is definitly an upgrade...but slightly compared to an evo or something.

You do know they have forged internals and people boost them to 450 to 500 WHP and I have yet to hear of a blown motor unless they mis shifted. Your talking about rebuilding a celica and like 3 people on the board here have 400+ whp and i bet they spent a whole lot more than just 8 grand... Then they have to get lsd to catch up... and its still FWD. read the write ups for miata vs s2000. You have driven neither and this guy has OWNED both top of the line models...

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=227349

I like the celica, don't get me wrong. I'm not so attached to it to realise there are better cars out there. I love cars for cars sake and refuse to be the guy arguing how their car is better than 95% of cars on the road.

MasterGTS
06-21-2007, 06:26 AM
go with the s2000 but wait til the end of this year and look for the new s2000 CR model its got alot of good stuff kinda like the gt vs. the gt-s only the s2000 other trims are the gt and the CR trim is the GT-S so wait for it its worth it better motor stronger more HP and its lighter and it comes with a really nice outer set up problem with it is this......

Starting Price $52,000

how you got deep enough pockets.not sayin you dont just you know.

WoW! only 52K for this?...

20 more hp
stiffer suspension
lighter wheels
200pound weight reduction

Theres a few other things they are thinking about adding like non powered top. option for radio and a/c. Little things. Personally its not worth the extra 17k... Maybe it is to some of you but not me. 17k can get me a turbo and tons of handling mods and would massacre the CR at an autocross event or flat out speed or anything related to racing.

MasterGTS
06-21-2007, 06:36 AM
Now based on that, it would be common of me to say go for an RX-8, but everyone has different tastes. So drive all the cars people have suggested here, and others, find the one that puts the biggest smile on your face and your wallet.

Best suggestion so far, problem is finding the time when i work 80+ hours a week :eek:

FallenOne
06-21-2007, 07:09 AM
get the s2k :p