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00 scrub
05-29-2002, 07:45 PM
I have an old bottle of Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic from my last oil change, but now I can only find Mobil 1 Super-Syn oil in 5w-30 weight. Will it be ok if I mix the two for my oil change? Or will I cause problems by mixing the two oils?

BlackGTS2002
05-29-2002, 08:06 PM
dont be cheap! Just buy all of the same... and while you can probably mix them...is 4-5 dollars for another bottle worth the risk of it gunking up ....NOPE...I would just buy some more of the new stuff...and sell your other bottle on EBAY...some ricer will buy it...claim it has 4-5 hp gains..and include a TYPE R sticker....sold!

Karim
05-29-2002, 08:49 PM
hahahaaha the sad thing is you probably could sell it on ebay like that. lol silly ricers.

http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~kzhessel/simpsons_ricers/rotbrain.jpg

Karim

gts24
05-29-2002, 09:05 PM
why not just get real 100% synthetic oil and not have to worry about crap like this.

VZV21
05-30-2002, 04:49 AM
Tri-synthetic versus SuperSyn

Same stuff, except slightly different additive package with makes the SuperSyn API SL approved.

daniel2880
05-30-2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by BlackGTS2002
...and sell your other bottle on EBAY...some ricer will buy it...claim it has 4-5 hp gains..and include a TYPE R sticker....sold!

hahaha.. it's a good one.

infinitegts
05-30-2002, 03:52 PM
Ive heard a rumor theyll turn to gold. Wait maybe that was eye of newt and dragonsbain...

TaeMachine
05-30-2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by VZV21
Tri-synthetic versus SuperSyn

Same stuff, except slightly different additive package with makes the SuperSyn API SL approved.

does that make supersyn better?

rocket celica
05-31-2002, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by VZV21
Tri-synthetic versus SuperSyn

Same stuff, except slightly different additive package with makes the SuperSyn API SL approved.

actually your worng there. The old mobil 1 which was Tri-synthetic was the 100% synthetic. this new stuff, Super-sync is a cheaper susbsitute made of organic oil. You see, catrol started labeling their non-synthetic oil as being 100% synthetic and sold it cheaper. So mobil1 sued them in court and lost so they are doing what castrol is doing with this new oil.
Now inorder to get true synthetic oil you gotta use amsoil, redline,etc.

05-31-2002, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by rocket celica
actually your worng there. The old mobil 1 which was Tri-synthetic was the 100% synthetic. this new stuff, Super-sync is a cheaper susbsitute made of organic oil. You see, catrol started labeling their non-synthetic oil as being 100% synthetic and sold it cheaper. So mobil1 sued them in court and lost so they are doing what castrol is doing with this new oil.
Now inorder to get true synthetic oil you gotta use amsoil, redline,etc.

Cheaper substitute? For them or us? 'Cause when I was last at the auto parts it was more for the Super Synthetic than the Tri Synthetic.

Where can you get a good deal on Amsoil or Redline?

-Carla

gts24
05-31-2002, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by AsIaN_HoNeYs_GTS


Cheaper substitute? For them or us? 'Cause when I was last at the auto parts it was more for the Super Synthetic than the Tri Synthetic.

Where can you get a good deal on Amsoil or Redline?

-Carla

check www.qwestdex.com for a dealer in your area, just do a search for amsoil.

also , search on this site, I have posted about the preferred buyer program, ,,,, you can get amsoil at dealer cost!

GTS LAID
05-31-2002, 11:55 AM
anyone wanna buy JDM mobil 1 oil from me??? :)

1Highlander
05-31-2002, 03:41 PM
You can get Amsoil from me... :)

00 scrub
05-31-2002, 06:18 PM
So, can I mix the two or not? I'm going to try and find a place that still has some 5w-30 tri-synthetic for sale and get it. I can only find 0w-30 in tri-synthetic.

Karim: How much does it usually cost for a quart of the real synthetic like Redline, Amsoil, and Royal Purple? The Mbil 1 wasn't that expensive and was nice. Anyone have other suggestions? If not maybe I will just sell the bottle on EBAY. I wouldn't want to throw it away.

Marv
05-31-2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by 00 scrub
So, can I mix the two or not? I'm going to try and find a place that still has some 5w-30 tri-synthetic for sale and get it. I can only find 0w-30 in tri-synthetic.

Karim: How much does it usually cost for a quart of the real synthetic like Redline, Amsoil, and Royal Purple? The Mbil 1 wasn't that expensive and was nice. Anyone have other suggestions? If not maybe I will just sell the bottle on EBAY. I wouldn't want to throw it away.

Dude, you can mix SYNTHETIC with CONVENTIONAL oil if you want..
The manufactureres do it. They're called BLENDS.

FalGra
05-31-2002, 09:22 PM
Isn't that were the logo where the V from Valvoline came from? Mixing Oil with the Synthetic? Ok, I could be wrong, but I remember the commercial... hahaha sorry.. bored!

VZV21
06-03-2002, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by rocket celica


actually your worng there. The old mobil 1 which was Tri-synthetic was the 100% synthetic. this new stuff, Super-sync is a cheaper susbsitute made of organic oil. You see, catrol started labeling their non-synthetic oil as being 100% synthetic and sold it cheaper. So mobil1 sued them in court and lost so they are doing what castrol is doing with this new oil.
Now inorder to get true synthetic oil you gotta use amsoil, redline,etc.

Mobil did that before the SuperSyn.

What do you think Tri-synthetic is made out of? It's not a full PAO stock oil Mobil 1 once was.

see this link
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15877&highlight=mobil+trisynthetic

[quote]
" What is Mobil 1 and why is it now called Tri-Synthetic?
Mobil 1 is a fully synthetic motor oil for automotive engines. It is made from a mixture of polyalphaolefin (PAO), synthetic ester and an alkylated aromatic fluid. Each of these three base materials enhances Mobil 1's performance and, along with a proprietary additive system, offers the best engine protection possible. Mobil 1 is available in five viscosity grades:

0W-30
0W-40
5W-30
10W-30
15W-50
Mobil 1 exceeds API service ratings SJ/CF. Mobil 1 0W-30, 0W-40, 5W-30 and 10W-30 also meet ILSAC GF-2 requirements. As an SJ/CF rated oil, Mobil 1 can be used wherever an API SH, SG, SF or SE oil is called for in the owner's manual. As a CF rated oil, Mobil 1 can also be used in diesel engines calling for a CD oil.

In addition, later in 2002, Mobil 1 will exceed the newest certification standards being implemented on that date

rocket celica
06-03-2002, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by VZV21
Mobil did that before the SuperSyn.

What do you think Tri-synthetic is made out of? It's not a full PAO stock oil Mobil 1 once was.

see this link
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15877&highlight=mobil+trisynthetic





I think you are mistaken. Tri-synthetic has been around awhile and it was true synthetic. The link you give is a maxima posting back in april 02 where they say that mobil1 one is changing their tri-synthetic formula to a non true synthetic like castrol after their lawsuit was unsuccessful. The super sync is this new replacement.

VZV21
06-03-2002, 12:15 PM
I'm very confident in my answer.

The original Mobil 1 is a full synthetic (full PAO).

The Tri-synthetic isn't, it's made of PAO, synthetic ester, & a hydrocracked petroleum oil (alkylated aromatic). This was done as an immediate response to the NAD-Castrol lawsuit. The Tri-synthetic was available for 2-3 years tops.

Using the term synthetic as it's supposed to be, not after the lawsuit.

gts24
06-03-2002, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by VZV21
I'm very confident in my answer.

The original Mobil 1 is a full synthetic (full PAO).

The Tri-synthetic isn't, it's made of PAO, synthetic ester, & a hydrocracked petroleum oil (alkylated aromatic). This was done as an immediate response to the NAD-Castrol lawsuit. The Tri-synthetic was available for 2-3 years tops.

Using the term synthetic as it's supposed to be, not after the lawsuit.

Exactly. Mobil 1 can put 100% synthetic on a bottle of dog doo now that Castrol got away with calling organic synthetic......

Chris25NJ
07-05-2002, 02:02 PM
so what's the verdict, mix or don't? I have 2 quarts of old mobile 1 left........

1Highlander
07-08-2002, 08:17 PM
Mix 'em...

Chris25NJ
07-08-2002, 09:28 PM
I figured out what to do. Until I run out of the old stuff, I'll use 4 quarts of the new stuff, and use the old stuff to top it off (the remaining 1/2 quart)

d_m_kolb
01-24-2003, 05:38 AM
Anyone interested in Amsoil is welcome to e-mail me.

Griffin
01-24-2003, 08:24 AM
Holy old thread batman...

00 scrub
01-25-2003, 02:05 PM
Damn this thing is old, can't belive someone went back and replied to it. Bu anyways I have 4 quarts of tri-synth left I guess I'll just go ahead and top it off with super-syn. Oh well. BTW I forgot how many quarts does a gt-s need again? It's been a while.

Spec GTS
01-26-2003, 01:09 AM
i put 4.8 quarts

JaySong
01-27-2003, 09:02 AM
it's 4.5 quarts actually. yes you can mix them.
don't overfill

Lord Banshee
01-28-2003, 04:47 PM
can synthic be bad for our cars or a 1zz-fe? i have 10k mile now, and i am due to an oil change i think 11,200 and i want to go with synthic amsoil if i can get it with out going broke. i remember my friend telling me that synthic is possible bad for the 13b(rx-7 engine) that it didn't work right with the apex seals. i was wondering if it was possible that a inline-4 or and piston engine matter of fact could have some kind of problem with synthic?

how many qt. does the 1zz need? and is toyota filter the best to buy for the money?