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Redline
05-30-2002, 01:47 AM
People complain so much about celica problems, but there werent even close to as many problems when the celica first came out as the new tib. Hyundai quality is getting better? I'm telling you this is pretty much the norm for korean cars. (I have lived in korea)

I quoted these from a thread at the tib forum labeled 2003 problems... And these weren't all of them.

The up/down switch for the sunroof doesn't work at all. I can only open/close it.


Hey all. Here's the stuff about the recall and the sunroof motor. So far this is all I know of.

1. There is a bracket underneath the dash that was missing on some models. They say it could cause injury in a frontal crash. It only applies to models produced within a certain time range. I own an '03 Tib Package 3 and it did not apply to me because my car wasn't in that particular production run. Just go by your dealer and have them check the VIN # to see if it applies to you. Here is the link to the recall if you want to print it out and take it with you. http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/02/v00064.htm

2. They are working to fix a problem with bad sunroof motors. People have been having the motors go out sometimes the day after they picked up the car. Right now Hyundai is having new motors made. Once they have enough of the new motors at the factory to keep up with production they will be sending them to the dealers. Ask your dealer about this also and they should send you a notice when they get them. I have not had problems with my sunroof at all but I talked to the shop foreman and he informed me that once the dealers recieve the new motors they will replace them for you whether it still works or not. I hope this info helps and if I hear of anything else I will come back and post it.


I've had one problem.....at 1200 miles the clutch destroyed itself. I dont know what happened or why it happened. I came off a shift at a decent rpm and it felt like i hit a HUGE pothole....well i came to the next light and put inthe clutch to go and it went down with no resistance. and it wouldnt go into first....i knew right away what happened. LUCKILY this happened right in front of the local hyundai dealer. they had to replace the entire clutch and the flywheel....

Yeah I've heard from several people about their clutches going extremely early...In the first 2000 miles...

i have a white 2003 tib v6 and i have a clicking noise in the engine... only when it's cold though... i took it to the dealership and i have to take it back sometime this week.... but just today the check engine light came on... and my auto tranny got stuck in third....um..... anybody know anything about this.... [quote]

[quote]After I test-drove one at the dealership, the car I bought just came off the truck with 18 miles on it. On the way home, I noticed that the auto-stick wouldn't show 2nd on the dash display. Got that fixed now. Put in a whole new spedometer. I have little water leak on the passenger side window, but not my sunroof. The motor in my sunroof works fine, but I think the driverside window motor has problems. When you push it to open automatically, sometimes it doesn't work. I also have that loud "clicking" sound when I shut off my engine. Most cars have that, but not this loud. Other than that, no problems.

Yeah the leak on mine was actually not from the sunroof because I don't even have the sunroof!
It was leaking through the windshield down thru the map lights!

The only problems so far are a turn signal that won't cancel after a left turn when the steering column is warm (parked in the sun, etc...) and a bad left front wheel sensor for the ABS. The dealer found the wheel sensor during his predelivery inspection and replaced it. The dealer is also replacing the combination switch assembly tommorrow.



my sunroof died today. i cant close it. T.T Now i must go to the dealer tomorrow and hope it wont rain.. I hope they have a motor ready b/c if they dont' i'm screwed. [quote]

[quote]Problems? You want to hear about my problems? I picked up my new Carbon Blue GT last night at 4pm. By 9pm the sunroof motor quit. The wife takes it out today to see some freinds and show off. She stops and puts gas in the car and drives home. Half way home she notices it seems to be hesitating. I get home and she tells me this, I go out to take it for a spin to see. I get in turn the key and the engine just cranks over, will not fire now. I had to watch my new toy go buy on the back of a tow truck. F**K!!!!



Well, I've had mine three weeks now (V6, auto, carbon blue) and the moonroof went out on week two, the left turn signal doesn't cancel and here's a new one...the hatchback won't stay up. I could deal with the first two problems for a little while but the hatch is a bit too heavy to have to deal with holding it open with one arm while trying to get things in and out of it LOL Called the dealership and it goes in Wednesday.

Well I've had mine for like 9 days and this morning as i pulled out of the driveway i noticed a nice puddle of oil under the car, my oil pan is leaking, this sucks, well as everyone has said it is under warranty will be takin back tomorrow morning, oh and 2 days after i got it i was driving and i got a flat, the piece of scrap metal ripped a 3 inch hole on the tread of the tire and it could not be patched, $182 dollars for a new one, oh yea what did everyone pay for their tib cause i payed 18500 for my gtv6 auto but today in the paper i seen an ad for the 4cyl for 10000, did i get ripped off or somethin or is that jus a goood deal

Looks like I've got another problem. Took a trip from Johnstown, PA to Oneonta, NY this weekend. About 360 miles each way. About 40 miles from Oneonta we stopped for gas and there was a turbine like grinding souns comming from under the hood .Sounded kinda like when Mad Max engaged his big blower in the movie.
Checked everything I could under the hood and couldn't find anything out of the ordinary. We decided to continue. The noise wasn't loud enough to hear on the highway but it was still there when we arrived Saturday evening. It was still there this morning but we had to get home so we headed out onto the highway again. After about 150 miles or so we pulled in to a rest stop for a nature break and the noise was gone----but so was the power steering. It takes two hands and almost all the force I can manage just to steer. On the highway it wasn't too bad because most of the turns are small but after getting near home I was affraid I might not be able to make it to my house. Well,, it's home and I am going to call Road Side assistance to tow it to the dealer.

Driving around today one of my CDs were skipping. I thought that maybe it was just scratched, so I put in another. It did the same thing and also just cut out now and then. I eject that CD cause I know it wasn't scratched. Put it back in and get Err2 on the CD display. I cant even get that CD out, it won't eject it now.

same sun roof problem here. it didn't work coming off of the lot actually. my girlfriend was playing around with it this weekend and it opened 1/4 of the way, but wouldn't close. we had to crank it shut. before it made a "click" when you pressed the buttons, now it makes a grinding noise. the dealer said that hyundia is shipping new parts as customers need them, so i should have it fixed in a week or so.

i drove another one and the driver's side window stuck open. i hope this isn't a sign of all of the window motors going bad.



Jeez... after reading all that, I was just glad I have a toyota! Some of them make me laugh cuz its so freaking dumb, but I can feel for the owners too because it sucks to have problems when you just bought a brand new car and love it so much.



The rest of the posts are here...
Tib forum (http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/?board=frm_tiburon;action=display;num=1021327550)

Blue Lucifer
05-30-2002, 02:48 AM
Sad. Well, Hyundai needs a better quality check. I think they really hyped their cars too much. I mean the design is interesting, but all the mechanical failures are pretty bad. Aie. When will they know how to build? Ah well. I just feel bad for the people who bought them.

00CericaRuss
05-30-2002, 02:53 AM
damn.. our cars got it made in the shade :)

WillyK
05-30-2002, 06:39 AM
Those things make our cars look as reliable as a Camry. It's too bad about the new Tiburon though, I think it's a nice looking car. Good thing it has that 10 year warranty, it's probably going to need it.

dezigns
05-30-2002, 06:43 AM
preach on brother redline...and those dudes come in here and say their rides are the sheit. it's not even worth getting in an argument about w/ them. they obviously have no clue of 'legendary' hyundai quality.

i have a story too, when i was in hs i worked with this chick who bought the top-shelf sedan (sonata, or something- i dunno, '99?)...anyways, a month later after she bought it, the engine failed. just failed. wouldn't crank, nothing. just went up in smoke. so she calls the dealer. cliffnotes is-- this chick couldn't even get any replacement parts from hyundai to her DEALER because corporate was so fuxxed up and they couldn't get parts from korea. talk about customer service!!

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CelicaNamja79
05-30-2002, 07:53 AM
dang... this gotta suck... what da hell is Hyundai thinking... jeeezz after reading all those problems... i ain't even mad at Toyota anymore.... I thought I had problems with my car..

One thing you gotta know.... Hyundai exports better quality made cars, which leads to lower quality models being sold in Korea itself. That sucks... In korea, Tib V6 cost hella more than what it cost here and American Sold Tib is way better quality overall. I am korean myself but that is shietty to sell **** quality to their own ppl and give out better quality to others.... it is like Vice versa Japan.....

dfess1
05-30-2002, 08:29 AM
What do you expect with a car that comes with a 10 year warrenty. They give you the 10 year warrenty because they know they just sold you a garunteed piece of crap.

Blue Bomber
05-30-2002, 08:39 AM
Hmmm, I wonder if Hyundai will still be around in 10 years... :rolleyes:

LimpMasterJ
05-30-2002, 08:45 AM
why do you think they have those 100,000 mile warranties? They never sold any cars until they offered that, people are duped into a so called "good deal".

WillyK
05-30-2002, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by dfess1
What do you expect with a car that comes with a 10 year warrenty. They give you the 10 year warrenty because they know they just sold you a garunteed piece of crap.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

CelicaNamja79
05-30-2002, 09:19 AM
The reason Hyundai offers 10yr warranty is that, they are still new in American Vehicle Industry. Hyundai only carries 20yrs or so tradition of car making, unlike those Japanese companies whom posseses more than 30yrs. Hyundai is only trying to up their sales and compensate customers into getting good deals. Not every Hyundai is built shiet quality you know. You've only seen half of Hyundai's line up to be exact. You've never seen enterprise, Equuas, and so forth.. Hyundai can not export their true luxury line up due to price competition and they know they can not win against Lexus/Acura/Euros with their prices for their luxury line up. I was surprised that Hyundai brought XG350 into their American Line up.... shiet cost over 30000grand in Korea and they sell it for 20000G or so in the states......

Anyway, give our Korean made cars some lights and chance you freakin' people... I don't think Toyotas were superb from the start you know..... We still have another 10yrs to catch up to Toyota/Honda and many others....

SlasherX
05-30-2002, 09:33 AM
and on the ford sites im on i see even less problems posted than i do on this one. whats the point?
there isn't one. these people represent a few percentage of the car owners out there.

dont ebleive *everything* you read on the internet now.

Redline
05-30-2002, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by SlasherX
and on the ford sites im on i see even less problems posted than i do on this one. whats the point?
there isn't one. these people represent a few percentage of the car owners out there.

dont ebleive *everything* you read on the internet now.

Yea you are right about them only being a few percentage, but remember when this board was new? You never heard about that many problems. Even with all the members we have, we don't have as many problems they do. I'm afraid to know what kind of problems those first generation new tibs will have when they start putting on more miles....

CelicaNamja79
05-30-2002, 10:50 AM
Mark,

Stop being sooooooooo negative towards Hyundai you jack a$$..ehhe :fawk: j/k

Hyundai cars are not known to last long and their resale value does suck... but that shiet don't mean Hyundai cars suck period you kno...

jotan82
05-30-2002, 10:56 AM
damn that's a long list...

but i'd be pissed too if my clutch went out before 2k miles:angry:

borpph
05-30-2002, 11:33 AM
http://home.cfl.rr.com/vids/altezas.gif
HAHAHAHA :rofl:
That's great! :rofl:

SlasherX
05-30-2002, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Redline


Yea you are right about them only being a few percentage, but remember when this board was new? You never heard about that many problems.

Honestly, I do remember.

Camry2000
05-30-2002, 07:28 PM
The problem with Hyndai warranties is that the dealer never admits to a problem. Your car can be burning oil like crazy and they will say it's normal. Bastards!

theotherredline
05-30-2002, 08:25 PM
Its a shame, they are trying to build a reputation but seem to be doing the opposite

zMaN
05-30-2002, 08:47 PM
I lived in Korea for 2 years, teaching english. It seems that most of the cars over there are falling apart. If you think Hyundias sell for peanuts over here they are dirt cheap over there. Since people dont make as much money as we do they can't afford to pay as much as we do. You could get a Tib that cost 18,000 over here for about 12,000 over there. Used cars can be had for MUCH less. Hyundai makes MOST of their money in their home market where they are the GM/Dodge/Ford of their country( along with Kia and Daewoo) Since they have to sell their cars for so cheap over there it only makes sense that they would build them cheaply so they could afford to sell them so cheap. Koreans think they are great cars because they dont sell cars made in other countries. I saw 2 honda's the whole time I was in Korea and 1 Toyota. Since they don't have good cars to compare them too Koreans are happy with the quality of their cars. Because of this there is no real incentive for them to make them better of higher quality.

Reading some ouf the post above I have see that some of you think cars cost more in Korea than they do here in the States. I can tell you for a fact that is not true. Cars really are much cheaper. It is true that we don't get their top of the line cars over here. The only niche they could flll here is "Cheap". The Equus really is an expensive, seemingly well made car but nobody here in the states would think of buying a 50,000 dollar Hyundai, hell, nobody would buy a 50,000 dollar VW let alone a Hyundai.

oo_snoopy
05-30-2002, 09:10 PM
They have cars in Korea now?

ArchangelX
05-31-2002, 03:56 PM
DOH!!! :AF:

Dayam...okay..I take back what I said about Hyundai getting better....WOW..that is BAAAAAAD.

Fugg...glad I didn't buy one..lol.

gibba
06-01-2002, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by CelicaNamja79


Anyway, give our Korean made cars some lights and chance you freakin' people... I don't think Toyotas were superb from the start you know..... We still have another 10yrs to catch up to Toyota/Honda and many others....

And look at ford, they have been around for almost 100 years and they are still selling peices of crap

Blue Lucifer
06-01-2002, 06:00 PM
HAHA. Ford. Some of their lines are nice, some are not. As for Korean cars, I am not a fan of them. My friends who are Korean went and bought a daewoo and a hyundai trying to "represent," which I laughed in their face for. They regretted it. Clutch failing, oil pressure leaking, and all these other headache problems. I'm sorry, but their cars are not of the best quality. All they want right now is to make an image, which quite frankly won't work. Sooner or later, they will declare bankruptcy like Daewoo, and hope a Big American Company like GMC buys them out. An 84 Honda accord is more reliable nowadays than a new Hyundai.

doctafrese
06-01-2002, 10:46 PM
[/B][/QUOTE]All they want right now is to make an image, which quite frankly won't work

looks like its workin pretty good to me, they were #2 in US sales for 2001, right under Honda. They will also be building new factorys in the US here shortly, I would say that is a very big step up the economic ladder. As for the new build quality, it is outstanding. Notice in all that rambling about car problems, it was only 2 or 3 different things ie. sunroof, clutch. Yes, the sunroof motor has been recalled, pretty minor if you ask me for a brand new model. I have had mine now for 4 months and am very happy with it .

scapamouche
06-01-2002, 10:49 PM
nobody would buy a 50,000 dollar VW let alone a Hyundai.

No longer true, I'm afraid.

VW is making a supercar, now. Should be out in the US in a couple years. 400+ HP W-12 engine.... Or is it the W-18, I can't remember.

zMaN
06-01-2002, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by scapamouche


No longer true, I'm afraid.

VW is making a supercar, now. Should be out in the US in a couple years. 400+ HP W-12 engine.... Or is it the W-18, I can't remember.

I saw that, but in the article I read even they speculated on weather anyone would be willing to shell out that much for a VW. Personally I don't think that VW can crack into that league. Image is everything. It don't matter if it is as good as a BMW 7 series of a Merc. All that matters is that in that price bracket people buy cars for image. VW does not have that image the buyers will be looking for. I guess we will see for sure when it comes out but I think they are making a mistake.

ArchangelX
06-01-2002, 11:13 PM
There is a reason they were #2.

Their cars are cheap as hell to buy, and they come with a 10 year warranty.

Simply perfect for people looking for something affordable and to go from point A to B.

I actually have considered buying a base model hyundai or kia, just as a beater car, so I can save wear and tear on my Celi, plus allowing me daily trans when I've got the Celi ripped apart.

Hell, I can get a used one for under 7000 grand, with a 10 year warranty? It's a no brainer...

SlasherX
06-01-2002, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by gibba


And look at ford, they have been around for almost 100 years and they are still selling peices of crap

amazing how this 7 post wonder makes his prescence known around here.

watch it boy, or ill break out the cubic inch yardstick on yo ass.

HilfigerCelica
06-02-2002, 01:55 AM
And this surprised some of you guys? We all know the Japaneses and the Germans make some of the best quality cars. (excluding Italy cause they don't make that many)

Shadowgate
06-02-2002, 03:11 AM
The Tib in general is pretty problem free...Basically a few people have had problems with their clutches right away....Nobody really knows why but this seems to be only certain ones....

As for the sunroof they had a bad batch and are issuing a recall....Most of the problems have been minor and easily fixed...

I will say Toyota and the likes have an excellent record for reliability and Hyundai is nowhere near that...

This is my 2nd Tib now and I love the car...Calling it Un-reliable is not really a good descriptor...

I had a few small problems but what can you expect when a fairly new company comes out with brand new model...which is something they have never done before...

Also note that this thread is basically ALL the problems in one thread...So there are no problems outside that thread on the forum...It makes it look much worse than it really is...

Seriously though, the warranty is a very good way to introduce the car and get alot of people interested...You WILL have problems with all cars and some more than others, so it is good to fall back on a warranty...

Give us a chance! :)

zMaN
06-02-2002, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by Shadowgate


I had a few small problems but what can you expect when a fairly new company comes out with brand new model...which is something they have never done before...


According to the Hyundai website they are 30 years old. This may not be as old as Ford or even Toyota but I would think it is long enough to learn how to make a quality car. They just haven't had to make good cars because there isen't a call for more quality in their home market. Koreans already think Hyundais are the best cars. Bt this I mean Koreans who live in Korea. In my 2 years there whenever I would ask one of them what their favorite car was they would always name a Hyundai, Kia, or Daewoo. Korean car companies have NO competition in their home market like we do here.

00BlackGT-S
06-02-2002, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Shadowgate
Also note that this thread is basically ALL the problems in one thread...So there are no problems outside that thread on the forum...It makes it look much worse than it really is...

That is exactly what I was thinking. I went over to that board, and as I searched through, it seemed that in comparison, it was only a small percentage of the owners were having problems. And remember our little problems? Belt tensioners and foggy headlight assemblies come to mind... :chuckles:

And listen to SlasherX, take what you read on the internet with a grain of salt