Timing Valve/Rod Broken No misshift

[yoshi8me]

Well last friday i was driving on the highway and i was racing and shifted at fuel cut off and when i was in 4th gear i noticed it wouldn't move past 6,200rpm... I was giving it full trottle. So i upshifted to 6th gear and arrived at my exit. At the stop light my car starts blogging on me and my exhaust starts to backfire. I had the car towed back home and in the morning i checked all of my sensors to see if i popped any of them. Well the car was drivable but you would have to constantly give the car gas to stay alive. Also the rpm would no be constant. Eugnile and his friend did a compression check on my engine and it read. 230,240,0,250... I was hella scared! =\ we figured i had had a bent valve. I returned the stock intake back into the car and took the car to the dealership. Before i did that i reseted the ECU as well.

Toyota said the ecu read i had a broken Timing Valve and Timing Rod. And they wouldn't know if this was covered under warrenty. I currently have a 2000 GTS with 20599 Miles on the car. They said it would cost 1078 just to have the car looked at and to see if it was reved to high or if it was toyota's fault.... what should i do? Has anyone gotten this problem before? thx

[silcro2]

shouldn't you be covered ? 20599 is not alot of miles, pressure pressure pressure, make them look at it

[yoshi8me]

Originally posted by silcro2
shouldn't you be covered ? 20599 is not alot of miles, pressure pressure pressure, make them look at it

Yea it should be but then they are trying to blame it on me.

[xi KiNG ix]

Well they have to prove its your fault no?

[yoshi8me]

Originally posted by xi KiNG ix
Well they have to prove its your fault no?

yea but i don't wanna risk paying 1078 dollars and they say it was my fault.

[oldster]

What exactly is a timing rod and timing valve?

[Zero0ne GTS]

bitchslap em! dont take that **** from toyota!

[EuGeNiLe GTS]

wasssup folks.. yea we did a compression check on yoshi8me's car.. and the following as he posted showed up.. with the 0 compression on 3rd cylinder..

check engine light was on.. the car felt sluggish.. if u put it in neutral it will die.. even on the freeway.. if u put it in neutral it will eventually die no matter what..

once or twice some white smoke would come out from the engine..

it would misfire.. not the exhaust.. but it sounded like it was coming from the engine bay.. this would only happen wen u gave more gas to it.. more u went to WOT the worse it would happen..

we thought it was the intake and the maf sensor.. bbut good thing we checked the compression..

[Tony01Gts]

Thats exactly what my car acted like after I misshifted it... isn't 230, 240, 250 a little high of compression (maybe I'm remembering it wrong!)

[yoshi8me]

Originally posted by Tony01Gts
Thats exactly what my car acted like after I misshifted it... isn't 230, 240, 250 a little high of compression (maybe I'm remembering it wrong!)

so how did u get the car covered under warrenty?

[z6joker9]

i checked my compression a while back and it read very simular(1st was 0, rest were normal).... the valves were bent, and the 1st one had a hole in it...

it's costing me $1600 to fix it, and even though it's still under warrenty, they wouldn't cover it.... said it had been over-revved, which they use for misshifted, but i'm going to go up there tommarrow and check out EVERYTHING myself...

good luck man

[xi KiNG ix]

that sucks joker.. gl

[ginoXYR]

That should be under warranty man. I am sure..

Gino

[Redline]

if toyota fixes all these stupid miss-shift cases, then shouldnt they have to fix your scenario? I'm sure a lawyer could fix this.

[krazyone]

call toyota corporate and tell them u need 1078$ for the dealer to tear down ur motor. they will do it as long as toyota corp calls the dealer and authorizes the labor cost. i mis-shifted twice, and they wanted 1045 for a tear down, called toyota, and they checked it out. turns out the motor was fine and i just needed a new tensioner. tell toyota corp ur situation and they will open up ur car.

[inline4]

There's NO way that Toyota can blame you for over revving your vehicle since it DOES have a rev limiter on there. Tell them that. They have to cover it because it is an engine problem. You probably didn't mishift, but there are times in some engines when mechanical failure in the belts, valves, or anything else can cause damage, and it's not your fault. It is Toyota's responsibilty.. that's why they gave you a warranty, in case any part of the car is not mechanically sound.

[yoshi8me]

Originally posted by krazyone
call toyota corporate and tell them u need 1078$ for the dealer to tear down ur motor. they will do it as long as toyota corp calls the dealer and authorizes the labor cost. i mis-shifted twice, and they wanted 1045 for a tear down, called toyota, and they checked it out. turns out the motor was fine and i just needed a new tensioner. tell toyota corp ur situation and they will open up ur car.
Whats the phone number?

[CelicaNamja79]

I dont see how these ppl are having trouble getting warranty cover your cars... i dunno.. is it juss me that is gettin all da warranty works done without any hassles?

Yoshi, play dumb man... and don't take any shiet from the Toyota... I played really dumb when i had to get my synchro and 2nd gear replaced while back in California.. I've played dumb everytime i went into the dealership for any works that needed to be done.... Key to your hassle free warranty work is play dumb and make it sound like it was the car not you!

[Griffin]

Originally posted by yoshi8me

Whats the phone number?

Its the 800 number in your owners manual

(800) 331-4331

Griffin

[cruzerz545]

Its covered man. Don't take any BS from toyota.
Call this Woman. She is with Toyota.
410-787-8060 ask for Lisa Carns

-jim




Originally posted by yoshi8me
Well last friday i was driving on the highway and i was racing and shifted at fuel cut off and when i was in 4th gear i noticed it wouldn't move past 6,200rpm... I was giving it full trottle. So i upshifted to 6th gear and arrived at my exit. At the stop light my car starts blogging on me and my exhaust starts to backfire. I had the car towed back home and in the morning i checked all of my sensors to see if i popped any of them. Well the car was drivable but you would have to constantly give the car gas to stay alive. Also the rpm would no be constant. Eugnile and his friend did a compression check on my engine and it read. 230,240,0,250... I was hella scared! =\ we figured i had had a bent valve. I returned the stock intake back into the car and took the car to the dealership. Before i did that i reseted the ECU as well.

Toyota said the ecu read i had a broken Timing Valve and Timing Rod. And they wouldn't know if this was covered under warrenty. I currently have a 2000 GTS with 20599 Miles on the car. They said it would cost 1078 just to have the car looked at and to see if it was reved to high or if it was toyota's fault.... what should i do? Has anyone gotten this problem before? thx

[oldster]

Anybody? What exactly is a timing rod and timing valve?

[GTS LAID]

i'm guessing he means piston and rod?? but thats really weird since the rocker arm is really strong..

[oldster]

I think the only thing we know for sure is his car is acting up, anything past that is pure guesswork....:)

[GTS LAID]

are you calling me a guesser?

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by inline4
It is Toyota's responsibilty.. that's why they gave you a warranty, in case any part of the car is not mechanically sound.
I didn't say it...a Celica owner did.

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by oldster
Anybody? What exactly is a timing rod and timing valve?
That's what I'm wondering. I've never heard of either term either. Something sounds wrong with the dealer story in his original post. They are either trying to give him a hard time, get out of fixing something under warranty, or have no idea what's wrong.

[oldster]

Originally posted by GTS LAID
are you calling me a guesser?

Unfortunately yes, but you are not alone as you have been joined by the original poster and the service department he took it to. :)

[RUSHIIII]

I had my motor blow up recently. I broke # 3 and 4 connecting rods and mine was covered under the 60K powertrain warranty.

Laters
Chris

[acilecdps6]

Well last friday i was driving on the highway and i was racing and shifted at fuel cut off and when i was in 4th gear i noticed it wouldn't move past 6,200rpm... I was giving it full trottle. So i upshifted to 6th gear

I have a question: If you're unable to go past 6,200 rpms in
4th, why would you go to 6th? Did you hit 6th, or did you go
into 2nd? You say you were racing and hit the rev limiter, so I guess it's after that when you couldn't go past 6,200 rpms. Did you have enough oil? The story doesn't sound right to me, and I guess Toyota questions it as well. I hope Toyota repairs it at no cost to you if it blew up without a misshift or lack of oil.

[yoshi8me]

Originally posted by acilecdps6


I have a question: If you're unable to go past 6,200 rpms in
4th, why would you go to 6th? Did you hit 6th, or did you go
into 2nd? You say you were racing and hit the rev limiter, so I guess it's after that when you couldn't go past 6,200 rpms. Did you have enough oil? The story doesn't sound right to me, and I guess Toyota questions it as well. I hope Toyota repairs it at no cost to you if it blew up without a misshift or lack of oil.

I was in 3rd gear and hit rev limiter So then i shifted to 4th gear and it was around 6,000 rpm and it was just stuck. So I shifted to 6th gear because i thought that it would be better for me to get it to a lower rpm. I changed oil the car 5 days before the problem happened. Mobil 1 Syntetic.

[yoshi8me]

Originally posted by oldster
Anybody? What exactly is a timing rod and timing valve?

They told me timing rod and timing valve.

[GTS LAID]

ok wtf is a timing rod??? theres a camshaft, a sprocket and a timing CHAIN... and there is no timing valve is there?? just the intake valves, and exhaust valves.. which are the ones usually affected my misshifts.

[oldster]

It is your car but I would have them explaining in depth as to what the ECU told them and why there may be a warranty issue. Particularly since noone seems to recognize the parts you say they told you about much less how the ECU would tell them they are broken.

[yoshi8me]

Originally posted by oldster
It is your car but I would have them explaining in depth as to what the ECU told them and why there may be a warranty issue. Particularly since noone seems to recognize the parts you say they told you about much less how the ECU would tell them they are broken.

please explain =D

[oldster]

Have them explain to you what is broken, how the ECU determined that there were physically broken parts and why it would be disallowed under warranty. Not that we are necessarily the brightest group around but noone has ever heard of the parts they told you were broken. If nothing else find a knowledable friend to go with and get more information. The whole thing does not sound right. IMHO

[yakkosmurf]

I agree. A lot of things with their explanation doesn't add up.