finally experienced turbo power

[GT20o08]

hmm so this is what all this turbo talk was about. today i finally got in a turboed car and felt the boost that everyone was talking about. it was a del so with an integ engine, t3/t4 turbo 7psi, i/e/h the whole works....the boost was kinda subtle...it wasn't neck snapping as i had anticipated, but it was still sweet. i was hoping to get thrown back in my seat, but i still liked it. the blow off valve chattered instead "pssssh," but it was still cool. after my first experience with a turboed car, all i have to say is..........i want a tuuuurboooooo!

and plus, i'm tired of all those punks who keep saying, "Man, you should've gotten a gts." i'm really tired of that crap. don't u other GT owners just wanna beat the living crap out of those people? i'm tired of their jeers and offensive remarks...if i can't make my car super fast, then maybe at least i might be able to make it fast enough to shut them up...maybe turbo performance and their 6psi turbo will do the trick. once a car has forced induction, headers and exhaust hp like doubles, right? o well...thanks for reading. i'm out.

o yeah! are toyo proxes fz4 205/40 17zr good performance tires??? i hope so cuz i just spend $200 for 2 tire =/...
i had 4 of them for awhile...i usually take corners pretty hard. the edges on the two front ones are kinda worn after a year...is that bad? another thing...do u guys know how one would get a "bubble" on the sidewall of a tire?

[skatamatic]

no, its not usually bad to have your sidewalls of your tires worn, especially after a year. thats quite a long life for a set. go try autocrossing if you wanna have lots of fun getting even more wear on them :)

[SlowPoke]

not trying to be a **** but you have no header when you get a turbo

[TRDNiteLife]

Originally posted by SlowPoke
not trying to be a **** but you have no header when you get a turbo

Heh...

[MarkyMark]

those people are telling GT owners to trade in for GT-Ss because they have COMMON SENSE, it only makes sense to get the highest trim of a car if you're into performance, unless you want to be lame & turbo a GT so that it competes with a GT-S on the track....

[veilside02celi]

http://www.4sided.com/com/com-thanks4info.jpg

[Xlr8_10]

oh daym, its buddy Christ! lol

come on now people, lets not start this GT vs. GTS thing. its a lil on the lame side. :rolleyes:

[GT20o08]

whoa i never even said i wanted to compete with a gts, did i? how is it lame to want a turbo anyhow? is marky trying to flame or what? now i remember y i don't post often.

[MarkyMark]

nope...not flaming, just saying that this is why people keep saying that GT owners should trade in.

[larryd]

"once a car has forced induction, headers and exhaust hp like doubles, right?"

you guys really are trying to make me laugh hard tonight huh ;)

[RedNOSceli]

"the boost was kinda subtle...it wasn't neck snapping as i had anticipated."

If you want neck snapping, take a ride in a stock SS with big fat slicks ripping a 4k launch at the track...now thats fun..

[SloGTS]

Originally posted by TRDNiteLife


Heh...

What i was thinking....

[h0l0grafik]

GT20o08

--- i know what u mean! i got a gt, thats auto...so i feel your pain. I got low mileage so i am HOPING that i can trade it for a GT-S...its just a pain in the ass. :fawk: you all that are GT HATERS!!!!!!!!!! eat my automatic dust MUHAHAHAHA

[RunCelica]

Seriously I am with you man, I am 17 and I got a 2000 Celica GT and seriously so many people say you should have gotten a GTS. Damn that seriously puts a stick up my @ss for the day. But I really love the Celica a lot. I can't wait till that turbo kit comes out... I sure won't be able to buy one for awhile but it'd be cool for the rest of you guys to represent.

[Mafiesto]

Neck snappin power is my buddies 650 hp mustang, that's if you can get the damn thing to hook up.

[MilinGTS]

Originally posted by MarkyMark
those people are telling GT owners to trade in for GT-Ss because they have COMMON SENSE, it only makes sense to get the highest trim of a car if you're into performance, unless you want to be lame & turbo a GT so that it competes with a GT-S on the track....

funny you say that because in the world of hondas...the acura integra LS has m uch more potential

as does the civic CX hatchback..

so sometimes the highest trim level is faster stock...but when you put equal mods on the car...the lower trim may come out ahead.

the LS motor has many advantages and is a stronger motor to build especially when not using engine management. when using computer control however, its all up to the tuner.

[TRD-CELICA-GT02]

^^^^ That's very true. Lower trim cars give mods a wider range of possibilities and potential for power. Just like MilinGTS pointed out. A Civic CX hatchback has very good potential. Take it from me, I own a 98 Civic hatchback with a Type R engine (B18C1) This past weekend, I raced my friend's stock NSX and barely lost by a front bumper. My hatch is all engine as of right now. Wait til I put some more work into it....

[daniel2880]

Originally posted by TRD-CELICA-GT02
^^^^ Take it from me, I own a 98 Civic hatchback with a Type R engine (B18C1) This past weekend, I raced my friend's stock NSX and barely lost by a front bumper. ....

? ? ? ...... ummm.. this is interesting..

[CelicaLicious]

hahaha he said B18C1...

[CelicaLicious]

Originally posted by MilinGTS


funny you say that because in the world of hondas...the acura integra LS has m uch more potential

as does the civic CX hatchback..

so sometimes the highest trim level is faster stock...but when you put equal mods on the car...the lower trim may come out ahead.

the LS motor has many advantages and is a stronger motor to build especially when not using engine management. when using computer control however, its all up to the tuner.

i love the B18B.. i've always wanted to buy a 99 hatch, and drop in the LS and turbo it.. but i'm lazy =)

[Vroom_Vroom]

yea kind of interesting ...but isnt the b18c5 the type r motor????????????? and the b18c1 being the gsr motor????? im reading the magazine right now and it says that the b18c5 is the type r motor...... so what gives???:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

[wgaughan]

Originally posted by Mafiesto
Neck snappin power is my buddies 650 hp mustang, that's if you can get the damn thing to hook up.

Real neck snappin is my buddies 82 Camaro with a 454 in it. Roasts the tires shifting into third and more than a bark into 4th. Gets over 120 in the quarter. Every shift throws your head back into the seat. Thats some neck snapping.

[Sirk_2]

Originally posted by wgaughan


Real neck snappin is my buddies 82 Camaro with a 454 in it. Roasts the tires shifting into third and more than a bark into 4th. Gets over 120 in the quarter. Every shift throws your head back into the seat. Thats some neck snapping.

That ain't nothing...try avoiding whiplash from my beastly 1983 2 door 626...5 speed!!! haha just messin! That car died on the highway last year. lol

[GT20o08]

i don't know. i guess i always thought this turbo thing everyone wanted would provide a neck snapping experience, but o well. if one uses a larger turbo and higher boost, would it then push u back in ur seat? like comparable to those domestics u guys were talking about?

[analogvoid]

I wish my dad still had his Austin Heally w/ the pontiac 400ci motor.. 10's on the track. Thats neck snapping. Too bad he sold it way before i existed.

[CheezeFrog]

B18C = Japanese Type-R
B18C1 = US GS-R
B18C5 = US Type-R

The B18B (Integra LS) is an excellent motor, but the GS-R motor will outperform it in almost every category, except for maybe torque. The problem with the B18B is that it has an unfavorable rod:stroke ratio, which means the rod will impart a lot of lateral pressure on the cylinder walls. Another thing that counts against the LS is the nature of the floating rocker arm assembly. In the higher RPM's, the piece tends to float right out of its intended range of motion. GS-R motors don't have this problem :)

Where the LS beats the GS-R is in price. If you break an LS motor, just throw another one in. They're easy to find and relateively cheap.

[ZZT808]

all this turbo stuff is making me tired... it's fine if you wanna do it and all but really if you wanted "neck snapping power" why'd you get a celica.... maybe trade in the celica for a used 94 supra TT? Sorry to me it's a better " hold on cause I'm gonna rip this hairpin at 100 miles an hour" kind of car than a " hold on cause I'll show you some neck snappin power" kinda car. RIGHT GUYS!!!! you can't lose em', but maybe you can out hang em'....heee heee heee.

[BigDaddyKane]

Originally posted by Vroom_Vroom
yea kind of interesting ...but isnt the b18c5 the type r motor????????????? and the b18c1 being the gsr motor????? im reading the magazine right now and it says that the b18c5 is the type r motor...... so what gives???:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

:werd: to that Vroom. i know off the top of my head the b18c5 is the type R motor, and the motor he said the b18c1 bein the GSR motor. So buddy again u get the honorable :bs: flag. which in case means u have diarreah(sp?) of the mouth:nono:.:fawk:

[Ceseration]

http://dragtruck.com/ENTRIES/Q9ALHD0YHJLY.html <--- neck snaper not bad for a club cab huh?

[Bryan H]

neck snapping = my old gsx eclipse, 28 psi. 112 octane race gas, race map. 1.49 60ft on radials.

[yellowspy]

Tell ya the truth, the GT is a better car to turbo anyway. I have a turbo spyder as many others do and it is the better motor to turbo. The 1zzfe has a better compression ratio thats more suited for boost (not optimal but better) there are guys that have run 15 psi (maybe even 20) on STOCK INTERNALS (getting 300+HP, try that with a 12:1 GTS compression ratio! gauranteed melted psitons. Yes the GTS is better out of the box, but tougher to really upgrade to run high boost. I am guessing 8psi on stocks.

[Wrekt]

11.5:1 get your info straight

[yellowspy]

oops, I must of rounded up in my haste to type fast. Any case it is still a better car to go forced induction with.

You guys that have GT's dont buy a GT-S if you plan on goin turbo. think of it this way, your car cost 4K less, take the cash buy the turbo and voila you have a GT that cost the same as a GT-S, that will beat a GT-S. So dont feel bad about not having the GT-S, If you must have all the extra's buy Leather, and a rear disk brake set-up. THe money you would loose to trade up would be crazy!

[RYANGT]

def good advice yellowspy, the $4k or more that U would spend too get the higher trim is pointless. 40 HP = $4,000? or would U rather keep your GT spend $4-5k & get 60+?? Even though the GTS 6 speed is tempting;)

[Syrupface]

Turbo ......when ?

[baNanA_ryCe]

well i have a gt...=( <~ yes i'm sad about it, cuz it's SLOW...and i've modded it too much to trade it in. I'm gonna just slap in the turbo and vuala...also, should i change it from auto to manual? someone said that the auto would heat up and mess up and stuff. i dunno what to do. i have an auto gt and i'm so sad. =(
oh well...go for looks! that's my motto. the celica commercial actuall fits my car..."loooks fast"

[FL Honda Stompr]

k could i run 5-6psi, and a 50shot of N20, on stock internals, thats my goal for my car.

[FL Honda Stompr]

Originally posted by yellowspy
Tell ya the truth, the GT is a better car to turbo anyway. I have a turbo spyder as many others do and it is the better motor to turbo. The 1zzfe has a better compression ratio thats more suited for boost (not optimal but better) there are guys that have run 15 psi (maybe even 20) on STOCK INTERNALS (getting 300+HP, try that with a 12:1 GTS compression ratio! gauranteed melted psitons. Yes the GTS is better out of the box, but tougher to really upgrade to run high boost. I am guessing 8psi on stocks.

XS-Engineering was having troubl with 7psi on a GTS

[143hawaii]

Wow! I was surprised to see yellowspy over here from Spyderchat.

But seriously I can't believe some of the things being said here. And are you all obsessed with drag racing? There are OTHER things. With that said, if everyone who keeps saying to buy a GT-S over a GT stops focusing on the "40hp" difference then I can see your point.

Man yellowspy, I think the GT owners here need jonvolk to show these guys his slips, pics, and setup to inspire them.

[fastwhipyo]

I agree with whoever said that the lowest trim vehicle can have the bigger advantage in modding. when the c5 corvette came out the fastest model they made was the ****tiest one with no options....why you ask, because they didnt make a z06 that year and the "no optioin" corvette had the same engine and tranny but weighed a few hundred lbs less.......plus I now own an HF crx w/ a B16a swap and a few goodies....the hf being the no option CRX it has no power steering, no tilt steering wheel, stock 62hp, and for 2000 bucks (did the swap myself, if you have the time and the knowledge I would recomend doing a honda hybrid someday, its actually pretty fun) i now have a 170hp 1819lb car with LSD....but its the ****tiest one right????