MATRIX to be AWD!!!

[BRAK]

WOW i didnt know that the matrix until today by a salesman in a dallas dealership that it would be AWD!!!!!! that means all 4 to the floor!! and its gonna have (you already know) have a VVTL-i engine and 6 spd. OMG peeps i was gonna trade my GT in for a GT-S in december but !!! i can wait another month to see if the matrix is gonna be the WRX rival (well maybe not ... but good compition!)DOES ANYBODY know the specs as in 1/4 time ... 0 - 60 .....weight .....and price of this import?!
OH one more GOOD question ....... can u buy supras in hawaii?? from japan ... i heard u could and there over there is this a lie .... if not i will buy one used when i go to hickum air force base in hawaii.

[cybrpunk]

There's not going to be an AWD Matrix model.

[BRAK]

I heard what I HEARD!!
Besides u might be write .. but can u prove otherwise??!!
It could be!

[cybrpunk]

Well I can't remember, but I read it on a review that was done on the matrix and the Vibe. They said it wouldnt be AWD but it would have the 2ZZ-GE engine. Just do a search on the web. Or look at www.isthistoyota.com they might say what models they'll offer. I'm to lazy to check it out myself. I have to play counter-strike for the next 10 hours straight.....I WANT TO BE AN ELITE AT CS!

[GTS808]

The base model Matrix with the VVT-i will have AWD available but the if you have the VVTL-i you can't get AWD.

[Lomeinhu]

It's like what GTS808 said...Matrixes (Matrices?) with the GT engine (VVT-i) has the AWD available as an option with the 5 speed. The ones with the VVTL-i engine has the 6 speed but no AWD. You can look at the December of SCC for more info. XS Engineering already made a turbo for it (minor adjustments from the turbo for the Celi)

[ahson]

i really hope that once Matrix is out on the road to the pubic...there will be more aftermarket companies develope more parts for our engine..since we share the engine with Matrix also.....pray for it guys

[Maelfyn]

Matrix looks like a sweet little ride. Toyota sure likes to recycle their engines. Four use 1ZZ and two use 2ZZ.

[Chiznarles]

regarding recycling engines.. how about Audi and VW using their 1.8T engine in everything.. Its a dope engine tho.

[EuGeNiLe GTS]

yea.. the Matrix XRS (this is the top of the line model which will have VVTL-i) will not come in awd.. however.. as others mentioned.. the lower models with 130 HP is available with AWD..
i have the decemeber issue of SCC right here.. and they did a full review of the matrix.. they even got a tuned one already with xs turbo in it already.. so its pretty cool.. however they got some pretty slow times with the stock matrix xrs vvtl-i 6 speed.. here are the times they got:

0-30 = 3.3 sec
0-60 = 8.9 sec
30-50 = 3.3 sec
50-70 = 5.1 sec
1/4 mile = 16.6 sec @ 85 mph

yea pretty dissapointing huh?

if someone already posted this.. sorry heh..

well if u cant wait to buy the magazine.. the full article is right here

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/archives/features/feature02_0102.jsp

and the project matrix wit xs turbo..

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/archives/tech/tech01_0102.jsp

[dawgg]

maybe there's no AWD w/ the 2ZZ engine cuz the 6spd trans can't take the stress. Dropping the clutch on a 4rd car puts a huge strain on the drivetrain. Stupid people would probably do that.

[iNteGraz92]

Originally posted by Maelfyn
Matrix looks like a sweet little ride. Toyota sure likes to recycle their engines. Four use 1ZZ and two use 2ZZ.
and how many toyotas in japan use the 2.5L turbo engine, :D

why wouldnt they release the AWD with the VVTL-i engine?? any ideas??

[RexPokinghorn]

I'm willing to bet that the tranny is pretty weak. Probably only meant for the vvt-i engine - If they used it on the vvtl-i engine, I doubt the tranny would last and there'd be lots of warranty issues. Maybe they'll make a stronger AWD tranny... next year :(

[GTS LAID]

I'm willing to bet that the tranny is pretty weak. Probably only meant for the vvt-i engine - If they used it on the vvtl-i engine, I doubt the tranny would last and there'd be lots of warranty issues. Maybe they'll make a stronger AWD tranny... next year

I dont think its a tranny problem... The GT and GTS autos have the same tranny with increased power...

EDIT: If i had to guess i'd say that its purely cost motivated.... making an extra trim level costs a lot of money and screws with the demographics of the rest of the trim models... imagine that as of now for the celica you have 4 options GTA GTM GTSA GTSM with the matrix youd have a further subdivision of AWD and noAWD which means that they'd have to make 8 trim levels ... and this is at a very high level in production.. these aint no folding mirror mods...