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Motor
01-21-2008, 07:42 AM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=124405?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*#3
[QUOTE]Now It's a Crossover, Not a Wagon

First Impressions:
Looks like a cute-ute but corners like a WRX.

* 227-hp turbo engine
* 146-hp normally aspirated engine
* All-wheel drive
* Independent rear suspension

Grilling for Identity
Mamoru Ishii, chief designer of the Forester, tells us that his design team has had two aims. He says, "Firstly, we brought the car more into line with competitors' offerings in terms of size and stature while giving drivers a better all-round package. And secondly, we enhanced the Subaru identity." Ishii says Subaru's brand recognition in the U.S. is still lower than most other Japanese carmakers, and he emphasizes that his designers tried to counter this by going for a stronger look with greater street credibility.

As we see it, the result is very much a work in progress, particularly at the front where Impreza headlights have been matched to a new grille that rehashes the horizontal vanes of the Tribeca's grille. For all that, Subaru seems to have finally latched on to a design language that suits the whole range (except for the Impreza, which still seems half-baked). The front end of the new Forester isn't beautiful, but it holds its own among stronger competition than it's faced before.

Fire Up the Cutting Torch!
It's probably appropriate that the 2008 Subaru Forester should abandon its Birkenstock-style heritage because it indeed is all-new. The wheelbase has been stretched 3.5 inches and the body is 3.0 inches longer than before, 1.8 inches wider and 4.3 inches taller. The additional dimensions come from some clever engineering, as the Subaru engineers have taken the basic body structure of the Japanese-spec Impreza wagon and joined it with the rear of the U.S.-spec Impreza sedan.

It's not surprising that the Forester feels far more spacious than before as a result, and the front-seat passengers enjoy plenty of leg- and headroom. The rear seat has far more legroom as well, and the doors open to nearly 75 degrees.

To further transform the Forester into something that might be described as a crossover rather than a wagon, Subaru has jacked the whole platform into the air, giving it some 8.8 inches of ground clearance, the most in its class.

Quick, Into the Parts Bin!
"And that's just the kind of things that chassis engineers don't want to hear," says Kazuharu Ichikawa, the Forester's chief engineer. "Bigger, higher and heavier are words that the chassis guys dread." Though the Forester gained only 66 pounds in this conversion to its new utility-style shape, Ichikawa says its size and height presented dynamic challenges.

Fortunately Subaru has some useful things in its parts bin. Most important is a body engineering technique called SI chassis, Japanese-speak for a more rigid chassis that absorbs bumps, vibrations and noise while improving safety and dynamic balance as you turn into a corner.

Also borrowed from the Impreza is the new double-wishbone independent rear suspension. It not only keeps all four tires on the ground no matter what silliness the driver might undertake, but also reduces dive under heavy braking. "Don't forget that the front track is wider, too, which combines with the rear suspension and the SI chassis to improve cornering," Ichikawa reminds us.

We can confirm that the Forester's new stance makes things possible that the old wagonette would never dream of. With the front track 1.4 inches wider and the rear track 1.8 inches wider (plus the new independent rear suspension), we could throw the Forester into corners without worrying about throwing it into the trees at the same time. A vehicle so high off the ground should not be able to corner like this, yet it does. It should roll and dive, yet it doesn't. We just couldn't get over it.

Single to Twin-Cam
On snow-covered roads near Mt. Fuji, we had a chance to drive the all-wheel-drive Forester both with a four-speed automatic and with a five-speed manual transmission. The gear ratios of both transmissions have been optimized for improved fuel economy, while the manual transmission model has a viscous-type center differential and a limited-slip differential.

For the Japanese market, the Forester gets a new DOHC 2.0-liter horizontally opposed four that has variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust cam, plus a free-breathing exhaust. The result is 146 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 141 pound-feet of torque at 3,200 rpm. Though the U.S. will get a 2.5-liter version of this same engine, the overall increase of 7 hp and a stronger torque curve from 2,200 rpm right up to the redline at 6,600 mirrors what we can expect. And to coax any life out of this engine, you must keep it spinning above 4,000 rpm.

Meanwhile, the revised Japanese-specification turbocharged 2.0-liter four delivers 227 hp at 5,600 rpm and 235 lb-ft of torque at 2,800 rpm. You'd better be ready for barrels of torque from around 2,500 rpm all the way up to 6,000 rpm. This is a powerful engine, and it'll get the Forester Turbo to 60 mph in 5.5 seconds. You extend your right boot just to experience the turbo rush again and again. You'll be surprised at the improved sound the boxer engine makes thanks to a new intake manifold and a twin-muffler exhaust system.

More Good Stuff
To enhance both handling and performance, Subaru once again went to the parts bin and pinched two technologies first employed on the Legacy and then on the Impreza

GSBoek
01-21-2008, 07:47 AM
Soooo...that's the corporate Toyota face? :chuckles:

Burrcold
01-21-2008, 08:41 AM
Wow that's pretty ugly. Not that the Forester was ever a great looking vehicle.

Carbonized_GT
01-21-2008, 10:45 AM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a312/axedesign2/forester.jpg'


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neological
01-21-2008, 01:15 PM
I laughed.

that car is beyond she-gay.

Beast
01-22-2008, 04:31 AM
I must ask again, is that extra mirror thing like a snorkel?

GSBoek
01-22-2008, 05:05 AM
No, it's just that, an extra mirror. Very typically JDM driving aid.

Motor
09-22-2008, 12:56 PM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=131970?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..3 .*
[QUOTE]Just an AdBlue Tank Away

First Impressions:
As much as we like the idea of a diesel Subaru Forester, this one is too pokey for all but Subie die-hards.

* 2.0-liter flat-4 turbodiesel
* 145 hp; 258 lb-ft of torque
* Six-speed manual transmission
* Needs an AdBlue tank to meet California emissions

For the moment, Europe is the only place you'll be able to buy them. So for the moment, we'll pretend to be European.

Sorry, It's Not Ready for You
We'll give you the bad news first. Even with the switch to a closed-loop-type diesel particulate filter, which Subaru says is more effective at collecting and incinerating particulate matter than the simpler, open-end-type filter used in the diesel Legacy and Outback, the 2009 Subaru Forester 2.0D will not meet 50-state U.S. emissions standards.

To be clean enough for California-emissions states, it would need an AdBlue urea tank, Kazuharu Ichikawa, general manager of product planning for Fuji Heavy Industries (unofficially, the father of the Forester) tells us. Packaging this technology into the vehicle isn't the problem, he says. Rather, it's the prohibitively high cost of purchasing an AdBlue system from another manufacturer.

Until Subaru of America figures out what to do, you can live vicariously through us as we drive the 2009 Subaru Forester diesel. Or, you could emigrate to Europe. Whatever's easier.

A Little Different From Other Diesels
The first thing we notice about the 2.0-liter engine is how quiet it is from the confines of the cabin, with the air-conditioning blasting American-style to defend against the late-summer Austrian humidity. Equally impressive is the smoothness of its power delivery

marc
09-22-2008, 01:15 PM
this is right up Samantha Ronson's alley.

stealthjet
09-22-2008, 01:32 PM
Is Subaru going to start putting hood scoops on half their vehicles, just like Toyota?

Looks nice though IMO.

KAT_Ayanami
09-22-2008, 05:40 PM
Is Subaru going to start putting hood scoops on half their vehicles, just like Toyota?

Looks nice though IMO.

I thought they were doing that already for a long time now...

whoadizzle
09-22-2008, 09:08 PM
Is Subaru going to start putting hood scoops on half their vehicles, just like Toyota?

Looks nice though IMO.

Thats because the cars have top mount intercoolers...

Motor
10-19-2008, 02:09 PM
http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/suv/112_0812_2009_subaru_forester_suv_of_the_year/index.html
Clearcut: Soaring Fuel Prices and a Fizzling Economy Have Made It a Jungle Out There, But This Year's Winner Is Easy to See for the Trees

No, our selection of the Subaru Forester as Motor Trend's 2009 Sport/Utility of the Year is not a reaction to prices at the pump, but a renewed appreciation for the value of the dollar and a thoughtfully designed, well-executed vehicle. At a time when our nation is paying the piper for poor investments and past excesses, the Forester brings to mind many of the humble values that made this country great: thrift, resourcefulness, doing more with less.

St. Antoine sums it up best, "It takes only a few miles to begin to appreciate the Forester's many virtues. It does everything most SUV buyers need-with more off-road capability than they'll likely use-yet remains friendly and carlike in its character. In many ways, the Forester represents the new SUV paradigm; it's the right vehicle for the times."
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Good choice, IMO. Agree or disagree with MT? What would have been your pick?

Discuss. :eatpop:

Carbonized_GT
10-19-2008, 04:34 PM
This is completely off topic but...


Your sig is fvcking awesome.

EuGeNiLe GTS
10-19-2008, 06:10 PM
over the rav4? wow heh.

I always liked the mitsu outlander in this class of xover vehicles

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2008/Mitsubishi/2008.mitsubishi.outlander.20170979-E.jpg

they have much nicer amenities, although, rather have a 6cyl which doesn't require premium octane gas. the AWD system in the outlander has had good reviews as well. The rav4 I believe still had the fastest 1/4mile time in it's class.

When I saw the new forester redesigned I liked it.. obviously because it's look has the same features as the rav4 and the outlander. But I would liked to have a 3rd row seat option, even though its tight back there for these size vehicles, its still good for those emergency transports. The rav4 I believe if got as an option cannot be stowed away flat, where as the outlander can, thus why it looks funny compared to the other seats. If I was looking for a turbo vehicle I would not get a forester, but everyone has their reasons, still not a bad car, obviously it's doing something right for MT to make the pick.

Motor
10-21-2008, 04:22 PM
This is completely off topic but...


Your sig is fvcking awesome.

:chuckles: Thanks.

Hail, The Prancing Moose.

Motor
10-15-2010, 03:40 PM
FORESTER BOOSTS PROFILE IN WORLDWIDE DEBUT (http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/15/subaru-forester-s-edition-concept-points-towards-sporty-new-mode/)
An exciting Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive Subaru Forester concept with some strong clues pointing to a new variant next year has been unveiled at the Australian International Motor Show in Sydney.

The Forester S-Edition concept, making its worldwide debut in Sydney, builds on the turbocharged following of the existing Forester XT.

Forester S-Edition's turbocharged 2.5 litre 193 Kilowatt engine is 24 kW more powerful than the XT and produces 347 Newtonmetres of torque, up 27 Nm.

Other significant additions include:

- Paddleshift five-speed automatic gearbox
- Revised sports suspension
- Variable Torque Distribution (VTD) All-Wheel Drive
- Exclusive styling accents
- STI 17-inch high lustre alloy wheels
- Alcantara seat trim with S-Edition logos
- Drilled alloy pedals
- Luminescent instruments with centre design unique to the model
- Forester S-Edition badging

Nick Senior, Managing Director, Subaru Australia, said: "We're delighted and honoured that Fuji Heavy Industries (FHI) have chosen Sydney for the worldwide unveil of this Forester concept.

"It points towards an exciting development in our Forester range early next year.

"Forester is firmly established as Australia's best selling compact sports utility vehicle, with the most recent addition to the range being the diesel variants that are proving a sales winner for our All-Wheel Drive brand.

"There's no denying Forester's appeal to Australians in both urban and rural environments, so we think this concept will only add to the huge interest," added Mr Senior.

Today's unveil follows FHI's recent announcement of its first all-new new engine in 21 years, which will debut on normally aspirated Foresters in Australia in early 2011.

The third-generation four cylinder horizontally opposed Boxer engine will launch as a 2.5 litre in Australia.

It features a longer stroke, compact combustion chamber and lighter moving parts.

Forester remains Australia's best-selling compact sports utility vehicle year-to-date, with recently launched diesel variants drawing even more customers to the multi-award-winning model.

Since going on the market in June, diesel variants have represented 29 per cent of Forester sales.

Along with every vehicle in the Subaru range, Forester has an independent five-star rating for occupant safety from the respected Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP) and is protected by DataDot security.
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Looks good.

Motor
10-26-2010, 10:21 AM
2011 Subaru Forester with New Grille and 2.5L Boxer (http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2010/10/photo-gallery-of-2011-subaru-forester.html)
2011 model year, Subaru Forester SUV, which benefits from an all new naturally-aspirated 2.5-liter boxer engine with a chain driven double overhead cam and an output of 170HP and 174 lb-ft. of torque.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/TMbvKHNs1YI/AAAAAAADde8/HGJF3ZUFdYw/s1600/2011-Subaru-Forester-11.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/TMbvLXE0daI/AAAAAAADdfs/nmw4S258Bws/s1600/2011-Subaru-Forester-17.jpg