Redline Power Steering Fluid?

[Lo_Pro_Life]

Anyone have an opinion on this fluid is it any better that toyota fluid?

anyone who has used it your review would be greatly appriciated.

[deltaB]

What toyota fluid? The power steering uses ATF.
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[6speedGTS]

Mobil One Synthetic ATF

[Lo_Pro_Life]

im confused.

ATF = Auto Tranny Fluid?

the power steering fluid from redline is it any good?

and when i said toyota fluid i ment should i go to the dealership and get dealer choice fluid or buy the redline. which would be better?

[Blue Bomber]

Stock uses ATF fluid, so if Redline makes an ATF compatible PS fluid, or just straight ATF fluid, then you can use it. Just don't go to the stealership whatever you do.

[ErikJohnson]

None of these 16 year old idiots have taken the time to read the back of the Redline PS fluid bottle. They are too busy using their cell phone as a game boy or something.

Redline Propteries (http://www.redlineoil.com/pdf/8.pdf)

Or, for the lazy:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/emjohn4/DSC02394.jpg

"Redline power steering fluid can be used where the manufacturer calls for any automatic transmission fluid...such as required...by Toyota."

"Redline power steering fluid is compatible with petroleum power steering fluids and ATF."

That being said - it's likely no better than any synthetic ATF. My last car required acutal PS fluid - and redline was the only fluid that I could use to prevent boil-over while autocrossing. Just a habit I stuck with when I got my Celica.

Erik Johnson

[xantonin]

^ Lol

I never see you post, Erik. But whenever I go to a topic about Redline or Power sterring I find your exact post like the one above.

[Barabaika]

"Redline power steering fluid can be used where the manufacturer calls for any automatic transmission fluid...such as required...by Toyota."


It's suspicious, whereas different manufacturers recommend different fluids for power steering, geniuses from Redline blended something universal that can be used everywhere.
Power steering fluid is not critical, that's why they can offer universal one.

It's better to change fluids more often than to hunt for the most expensive one. For example, 1 quart of ATF is $3, 1 quart of Redline is $9. Is the latter 3 times better?

[deltaB]

Good power steering flush threads.

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=260735
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179688

I guess I'll do it again this year. I have conventional ATF in it. I was just glad to get the old stuff out.
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[kimGT]

it was a pretty easy job, just got messy since i didn't have help.

[ErikJohnson]

It's suspicious, whereas different manufacturers recommend different fluids for power steering, geniuses from Redline blended something universal that can be used everywhere.
Power steering fluid is not critical, that's why they can offer universal one.

It's better to change fluids more often than to hunt for the most expensive one. For example, 1 quart of ATF is $3, 1 quart of Redline is $9. Is the latter 3 times better?

When I was having problems with boil over - the $9/bottle was 300 times better.

[Barabaika]

When I was having problems with boil over - the $9/bottle was 300 times better.
I checked, there is no boil over temperature, but there is flash point temperature.

Redline: 225 degrees http://www.redlineoil.com/pdf/8.pdf
Castrol ATF: 208 degrees http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_usa/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/p,q/pds_ImportMV.pdf

17 degrees difference is not 300 times better. For the price of a Redline quart bottle you can buy 1 gallon of Castrol ATF.

[ErikJohnson]

I checked, there is no boil over temperature, but there is flash point temperature.

Redline: 225 degrees http://www.redlineoil.com/pdf/8.pdf
Castrol ATF: 208 degrees http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_usa/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/p,q/pds_ImportMV.pdf

17 degrees difference is not 300 times better. For the price of a Redline quart bottle you can buy 1 gallon of Castrol ATF.

Ok, I bow to your superior knowledge.

Especially how you don't understand the difference between flash point and boiling.

Just in case you still need additional information...


Flash point - The lowest temperature at which a liquid will generate sufficient vapor to flash (ignite) when exposed to a source of ignition.

Boiling - The temperature at which the vapor pressure of the liquid is equal to the pressure exerted on the liquid by the surrounding environmental pressure.

All you have told me is at what temperature I should expect the vapor from the remaning power steering fluid to ignite. You have not told me how the superior propteries of your Castrol fluid keep the power steering system cooler than that of Redline.

Erik Johnson

[Barabaika]

Please, prove that the boiling temperature of Redline is 300 times better than of other ATFs. Give links to technical data.

A power steering cooler would be a better solution.

[ErikJohnson]

Please, prove that the boiling temperature of Redline is 300 times better than of other ATFs. Give links to technical data.

A power steering cooler would be a better solution.


Ah....when you're unwilling to admit defeat - take something literal that was meant as non-leteral.

Grow up. Take a physics class, and listen, you'll learn a lot.

When a fluid boils over - it becomes worthless, as you can compress air, you cannot compress liquid (don't take this too literal either - you can compress liquid, albeit, a tiny amount). Boiling PS fluid = no power assist.


I had a PS cooler, and a pressurized cap. Still boiled over with any other fluid.

Again, Redline solved my problem when I was autocrossing. Lower friction - less heat. Period.

Erik Johnson

[Barabaika]

I know physics. When racing fluid is made to withstand high temperature, it can lack in something else.
Do you use Castrol SRF brake fluid for your daily driving? It's $80 and have high boiling temperature, but it requires very frequent changes.

[xantonin]

Please, prove that the boiling temperature of Redline is 300 times better than of other ATFs. Give links to technical data.

A power steering cooler would be a better solution.


Ah....when you're unwilling to admit defeat - take something literal that was meant as non-leteral.

Grow up. Take a physics class, and listen, you'll learn a lot.

When a fluid boils over - it becomes worthless, as you can compress air, you cannot compress liquid (don't take this too literal either - you can compress liquid, albeit, a tiny amount). Boiling PS fluid = no power assist.


I had a PS cooler, and a pressurized cap. Still boiled over with any other fluid.

Again, Redline solved my problem when I was autocrossing. Lower friction - less heat. Period.

Erik Johnson

Erik, have you tried Royal Purple? I'm curious how it stands.

[ErikJohnson]

I know physics.

Incorrect. Need I refer you about 5 posts up where you didn't understand the difference between boiling point and flash point?

When racing fluid is made to withstand high temperature, it can lack in something else.


Perhaps this is why the Reline PS fluid commands a $9/quart price rather than $3/quart?

Do you use Castrol SRF brake fluid for your daily driving? It's $80 and have high boiling temperature, but it requires very frequent changes.

No, I sure don't. Know why? I have never had a problem with the brakes on my previous car boil - even during track days. I've cooked the rotors and pads, but never the fluid. I still have the blue rotors to prove it.

Give it up already.

Erik

[ErikJohnson]

Erik, have you tried Royal Purple? I'm curious how it stands.

I did, it worked quite well; I only had one instance of minimal boil over with it - on a 80 second autocross course that you didn't need to shift out of first gear on (lots of turns!). Only reason that I did not stick with it is that it was not commerically available in my area - I had to order it, which typically added $6.00 in shipping costs.

The local speed shop had Redline in stock, so convience won in this case.

If you can find it locally - it works well.

Erik Johnson

[xantonin]

I did, it worked quite well; I only had one instance of minimal boil over with it - on a 80 second autocross course that you didn't need to shift out of first gear on (lots of turns!). Only reason that I did not stick with it is that it was not commerically available in my area - I had to order it, which typically added $6.00 in shipping costs.

The local speed shop had Redline in stock, so convience won in this case.

If you can find it locally - it works well.

Erik Johnson

Excellent. I want to best for my car so I'd be willing to switch to Redline but it's harder to find than Royal Purple ATF in my area.