Turbo..

[Canon20]

I was thinking about getting a turbo kit but I am worried about how suitable it would be for a daily driver vs supercharger. The only reason why I considered a turbo is because I get a better gain for almost the same price for a supercharger... Some people told me that if I was to turbo my car I would have to do ALLOT of maintaing and maintance than going with a supercharger. They just listed off a bunch of stuff which kind of made me look in another direction... Since this is my only car right now, would it be smart to turbo charge a daily driver?

I also read the TURBO FAQ: http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=199226
Good read...allot of good information..

___ Get a compression check done - were all cylinders within 10 PSI of eachother? Were they above factory minimums?

__x__ Check the brakes - make sure they are in good shape (you will need them a LOT more after the turbo)

__x__Check all tires - make sure they have good tread depth and pressure is correct

__x__ Switch to GOOD quality (Chevron) high octane fuel at LEAST one tank before turbo install. 93 octane is best but if 91 is all you can get in your area then use that

__x__ Clean the MAF

__x__ Purchse 6 quarts of oil, a new Toyota Oil filter and 3 quarts of transmission fluid - you will change al these components at the time of install

__x__ Purchase colder spark plugs to install with kit

__x__ Purchase a tube of black Toyota FIPG (silicone gasket maker)

__x__ Purchase about 6-10 cans of brake parts cleaner

__x__ Purchase a gasket scraper if you don't have one (razor blade stype works best)

__x__ Purchase tuning solution (power FC or E-Manage)

__x__ Purchase upgraded fuel injectors and pump

__x__ Purchase upgraded clutch and pressure plate

__x__ Purchase boost gauge (install before kit to make sure its working)

__x__ Purchase Wideband with Gauge (install before kit to make sure its working)

__x__ Purchase good boost controller. Install at same time as kit.

__x__ Purchase upgraded exhaust (the more free flowing the better)

__x__ Purchase complete Turbo kit or purchase everything reccomended in custom turbo kit link

__x__Set aside money for tuning & dyno time - it will need to be done immediately after kit is installed

__x__ Put aside a minimum of a $500 reserve for incidentals.

[Boosted2.0]

All forced induction requires accelerated maintenance regarless of whether you have a supercharger or a turbo. Its more related to power level and useage than it is to what type of forced induction you use.

What are your HP / performance goals? Is this just a bit more power for the street or are you looking to drag race / autocross or track?

[Canon20]

What are your HP / performance goals? Is this just a bit more power for the street or are you looking to drag race / autocross or track?

Stock engine, mid to high two hundreds..but anything under three hundred since I don't got the money to get a built motor. Just street no drag...this is my daily driver just looking for some more power.

[Boosted2.0]

In that case a simple turbo system with a GT28 would be an excellent choice - add a Power FC & a J&S safegaurd on the control side and get a good quality professional tune and you will be just fine.

I would talk to Smaay about the turbo setup - hes been looking for someone to work with to develop that.

[Jesse IL]

Since this is my only car right now, would it be smart to turbo charge a daily driver?
No way.

[Boosted2.0]

No way.

Good point - I overlooked that question

[enjoi4586]

Can you use a bike in the mean time?

I've been out of a car for the past 2 years intermittently. So if you need a car, you need to get a beater in the mean time.

[enjoi4586]

Can you use a bike in the mean time?

And by "bike" I mean bicycle :D

[spank110]

Assuming the tuning is all done correctly....

Turbo charging is easier on engines than Superchargers. It is a common misconception to think otherwise.

Superchargers pound hot air (except for inter cooled pro charger setups) into the engine all the time. Turbochargers pound inter cooled air into the engine when boosting.

Turbocharger engines are easier on fuel because they are easily driven out of boost.

I own a shop and we only deal with FI cars. We see more guys blow up on superchargers than turbo. We have yet to blow up a single turbo car we built or rebuilt.

Reliability mostly comes down to who turns the wrenches on the car, and in custom builds who designs the setup.

[Ucrano]

Stock engine, mid to high two hundreds..but anything under three hundred since I don't got the money to get a built motor. Just street no drag...this is my daily driver just looking for some more power.

Same issue I have. But would like to ask why isn't it smart for him to turbo his current ride?

And what's the average FC on a turbo GT provided we don't boost the car as often?

Thanks in advance.

[Canon20]

In that case a simple turbo system with a GT28 would be an excellent choice - add a Power FC & a J&S safegaurd on the control side and get a good quality professional tune and you will be just fine.

I would talk to Smaay about the turbo setup - hes been looking for someone to work with to develop that.

Who is smaay, is that his username? Where does he live?

No way.

Good point - I overlooked that question

Would it be okay to turbo charge my current main ride (celica) but in the meantime buy a backup car. But as far as which car I would mostly drive would be the celica, but are you saying its not smart to turbo charge your only vehicle incase of something was to happen you still have a chance to get to point A to point B? Is this why you said no way? Or are you saying if I turbo charge my current and only ride, and since its my daily driver its no good for turbo since im driving it all over.

Same issue I have. But would like to ask why isn't it smart for him to turbo his current ride?

I am thinking maybe because its my only ride and if their was something to happen = no transportation. I guess it would be wise just to have a backup car incase something was to happen you still can get to point A to point B.

[slvrcelicagt00]

smaay is his user name and he is in socal

[Boosted2.0]

Who is smaay, is that his username? Where does he live?





Would it be okay to turbo charge my current main ride (celica) but in the meantime buy a backup car. But as far as which car I would mostly drive would be the celica, but are you saying its not smart to turbo charge your only vehicle incase of something was to happen you still have a chance to get to point A to point B? Is this why you said no way? Or are you saying if I turbo charge my current and only ride, and since its my daily driver its no good for turbo since im driving it all over.



I am thinking maybe because its my only ride and if their was something to happen = no transportation. I guess it would be wise just to have a backup car incase something was to happen you still can get to point A to point B.

I'm justsaying you need alternate transportation for during the build and for when its down for maitenance, tuning, changes, mishaps etc. Modified vehicles meet with mishaps much more frequently than unmodified ones, and if you don't have a backup mode of transportation you may wide up riding the bus or cruising to work on a set of Nikes

Smaay is his user name - he has a 550 HP GTS and makes turbo kits in the 500-600 HP range but hes been looking to make a smaller kit with like a GT28 - should be right up your alley. He lives in Lancaster CA

[Soon2beriding]

500*600hp thats crazy

[Canon20]

I'm justsaying you need alternate transportation for during the build and for when its down for maitenance, tuning, changes, mishaps etc. Modified vehicles meet with mishaps much more frequently than unmodified ones, and if you don't have a backup mode of transportation you may wide up riding the bus or cruising to work on a set of Nikes

I got a mountain bike, six speed.

I am looking around for another car to buy so I can use it as my daily driver, so my celica now when I boost it will be my night baby.

Smaay is his user name - he has a 550 HP GTS and makes turbo kits in the 500-600 HP range but hes been looking to make a smaller kit with like a GT28 - should be right up your alley. He lives in Lancaster CA

I just sent smaay a pm..

[PureBred731]

if you have a gt... and your planning on putting a turbo in it and buying another junk car incase the turbo goes out.. why dont you just sell the celica then and save the money on the turbo and just buy a faster car all together.

[rammerjammer7]

if you have a gt... and your planning on putting a turbo in it and buying another junk car incase the turbo goes out.. why dont you just sell the celica then and save the money on the turbo and just buy a faster car all together.
because obviously he wants a celica

[PureBred731]

because obviously he wants a celica


well maybe he should have bought a GT-S if he was gunna go FI because for the cost and the limited power gains on the GT, say he got for 8,000. and then to turbo with a decent kit and install and tune it himself will cost at the very least 3,000, and seeing that he is asking this question to begin with he probably will not be installing it or tuning it himself, and install and tune will run him up at least another grand or two depending who he knows or where he goes. and then if he wants to buy another junk car incase the turbo goes down, and then the junk car will go down soon also not long after, thatll be at least another grand to buy and extra to fix when it goes down also. he could sell the celica and save the money for the turbo and could have had 12,000 or more and bought a faster car then the celica with the turbo. he could find a used dodge srt-4 stock with turbo pulling 230hp with a 2.4 l OVER the 1.8l turbo celica GT pulling probably only 200 depending on what kit he gets due to extra expenses. and then he wouldnt have to worry about having to take care of two slow cars and he would just have one reliable car. its just not very cost effective for the gains on a GT... unless you just have the money to do it.. but then why not just buy a faster car... i have a gt also and all im doing to it is the appearance mods because i know that all the bolt ons like I/H/E wont do anything but add a few horsepower and its not reasonable for the price. and seeing that he might be on a tight budget to begin with since he didnt buy the fastest of cars or even the gt type s, all he is going to do is go broke trying to fix the problems with the turbo kit and be riding his bike to work every day or driving some old POS since he messed up his daily drive. and its even more unreasonable for me since im still in high school and this is my first car that im only going to turn around and sell once i graduate to buy my own newer car, but thats for me, i dont know his situation, and all my parents could afford or find was the GT..

[rammerjammer7]

well maybe he should have bought a GT-S if he was gunna go FI because for the cost and the limited power gains on the GT, say he got for 8,000. and then to turbo with a decent kit and install and tune it himself will cost at the very least 3,000, and seeing that he is asking this question to begin with he probably will not be installing it or tuning it himself, and install and tune will run him up at least another grand or two depending who he knows or where he goes. and then if he wants to buy another junk car incase the turbo goes down, and then the junk car will go down soon also not long after, thatll be at least another grand to buy and extra to fix when it goes down also. he could sell the celica and save the money for the turbo and could have had 12,000 or more and bought a faster car then the celica with the turbo. he could find a used dodge srt-4 stock with turbo pulling 230hp with a 2.4 l OVER the 1.8l turbo celica GT pulling probably only 200 depending on what kit he gets due to extra expenses. and then he wouldnt have to worry about having to take care of two slow cars and he would just have one reliable car. its just not very cost effective for the gains on a GT... unless you just have the money to do it.. but then why not just buy a faster car... i have a gt also and all im doing to it is the appearance mods because i know that all the bolt ons like I/H/E wont do anything but add a few horsepower and its not reasonable for the price. and seeing that he might be on a tight budget to begin with since he didnt buy the fastest of cars or even the gt type s, all he is going to do is go broke trying to fix the problems with the turbo kit and be riding his bike to work every day or driving some old POS since he messed up his daily drive. and its even more unreasonable for me since im still in high school and this is my first car that im only going to turn around and sell once i graduate to buy my own newer car, but thats for me, i dont know his situation, and all my parents could afford or find was the GT..

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[Insomniac]

If you don't want to read all this:

It's just a big rant of what everyone says about getting power out of a GT. "It's not practical. Get a faster car."

He can do what he wants, it's his car.


another junk car incase the turbo goes down, and then the junk car will go down soon also not long after, thatll be at least another grand to buy and extra to fix when it goes down also. he could sell the celica and save the money for the turbo and could have had 12,000 or more and bought a faster car then the celica with the turbo. he could find a used dodge srt-4 stock with turbo pulling 230hp with a 2.4 l OVER the 1.8l turbo celica GT pulling probably only 200 depending on what kit he gets due to extra expenses. and then he wouldnt have to worry about having to take care of two slow cars and he would just have one reliable car. its just not very cost effective for the gains on a GT... unless you just have the money to do it.. but then why not just buy a faster car... i have a gt also and all im doing to it is the appearance mods because i know that all the bolt ons like I/H/E wont do anything but add a few horsepower and its not reasonable for the price. and seeing that he might be on a tight budget to begin with since he didnt buy the fastest of cars or even the gt type s, all he is going to do is go broke trying to fix the problems with the turbo kit and be riding his bike to work every day or driving some old POS since he messed up his daily drive. and its even more unreasonable for me since im still in high school and this is my first car that im onl

[Hnda Klr]

well maybe he should have bought a GT-S if he was gunna go FI because for the cost and the limited power gains on the GT, say he got for 8,000. and then to turbo with a decent kit and install and tune it himself will cost at the very least 3,000, and seeing that he is asking this question to begin with he probably will not be installing it or tuning it himself, and install and tune will run him up at least another grand or two depending who he knows or where he goes. and then if he wants to buy another junk car incase the turbo goes down, and then the junk car will go down soon also not long after, thatll be at least another grand to buy and extra to fix when it goes down also. he could sell the celica and save the money for the turbo and could have had 12,000 or more and bought a faster car then the celica with the turbo. he could find a used dodge srt-4 stock with turbo pulling 230hp with a 2.4 l OVER the 1.8l turbo celica GT pulling probably only 200 depending on what kit he gets due to extra expenses. and then he wouldnt have to worry about having to take care of two slow cars and he would just have one reliable car. its just not very cost effective for the gains on a GT... unless you just have the money to do it.. but then why not just buy a faster car... i have a gt also and all im doing to it is the appearance mods because i know that all the bolt ons like I/H/E wont do anything but add a few horsepower and its not reasonable for the price. and seeing that he might be on a tight budget to begin with since he didnt buy the fastest of cars or even the gt type s, all he is going to do is go broke trying to fix the problems with the turbo kit and be riding his bike to work every day or driving some old POS since he messed up his daily drive. and its even more unreasonable for me since im still in high school and this is my first car that im only going to turn around and sell once i graduate to buy my own newer car, but thats for me, i dont know his situation, and all my parents could afford or find was the GT..

GT or GT-S, it doesn't matter. i don't think him or i would be caught driving a fugly neon. its always nice to unexpectedly see a fast celica on a road, so go boost it, it always comes down to the right tune to have reliability. of course increased service intervals and maintenance come along the way

[DujuruPrincipe]

GT or GT-S, it doesn't matter. i don't think him or i would be caught driving a fugly neon. its always nice to unexpectedly see a fast celica on a road, so go boost it, it always comes down to the right tune to have reliability. of course increased service intervals and maintenance come along the way

i agree. i would rather have the celica any day than a p.o.s. neon import wanna be.