anyone go from a celica to an rsx?

[tehnubber]

I've been thinking about switching to an 02-04 RSX-S soon and I was wondering if anyone went from a Celica to an RSX-S. How's the gas mileage on it? Is it close to the Celica's?(the gas mileage on the Celica was my favorite thing). I've heard Honda/Acuras get stolen easily and I was wondering if the security system on an RSX is better or worse than a Celica's because no one has attempted to steal my car. Any help is appreciated!

[XxIMPACTxX]

the RSX is nearly superior to the celica in EVERY way, shape or form.

[Solidus 604]

ive thought about it alot, models with the K20Z1 engine come out of the factory with 210hp, alittle curious about v-tec as well. ive seen some really well done rsx's.
cosmetically however a well done celica looks better than a well done rsx imo

[904 GT-S]

Only consider it if it is a type s. I have been Told that a type s and a gt-s is drivers race, so them being superior in every way not sure. And they say every 100lbs is equal to 10hp so since the gts weighs 2500 at 180hp, the type s weighs 2800 at 210hp it would make since for it to be a drivers race. As for v-tec Its completely unnoticable as to when it kicks in when ive been in my friends rsx. Which is strange because Lift is on the verge of throwing me back in my seat when it kicks in. So far I am unipressed with the rsx.

[Solidus 604]

so lift kicks vtec in its nuts, good to know. so 100lbs is equal to 10hp? wow i knew weight made a difference but not that much

[5sfecelica]

so lift kicks vtec in its nuts, good to know. so 100lbs is equal to 10hp? wow i knew weight made a difference but not that much

It's not that much, he is wrong.

[904 GT-S]

It's not that much, he is wrong.

my bad thats just what I was told

[Brizzle]

Only consider it if it is a type s. I have been Told that a type s and a gt-s is drivers race, so them being superior in every way not sure. And they say every 100lbs is equal to 10hp so since the gts weighs 2500 at 180hp, the type s weighs 2800 at 210hp it would make since for it to be a drivers race. As for v-tec Its completely unnoticable as to when it kicks in when ive been in my friends rsx. Which is strange because Lift is on the verge of throwing me back in my seat when it kicks in. So far I am unipressed with the rsx.

Because the Power on the RSX is a lot more of a smooth curve, where as the celica is no power...no power....now power...then bam a little amount of power.

[Agnu]

i heard the RSX and GT-S is a drivers race ONLY if the GT-S is from 00-02 and the RSX is under 06. I believe the 06 and up are a little.... more better. But in my opinion.. if i were to change cars, i wouldn't change to a car with such similar performance and style, id want the change to be HUGE if possible.

The rsx may be a little better i sopose. BUT i know one thing the RSX doesn't have.
The Looks - ( i love the looks of our car.) probably why girls love it too =/

[marc]

I went from a Celica to a whole bunch of other cars and finally bought my wife a Civic SI sedan (basically a 4-door RSX-S with a limited slip differential, a superior intake manifold and the same cams as the 02-04, but milder cams than the 05+).

It pretty much kicks the crap out of the Celica across the board. My only complaint is that it has a little more body roll than the Celica, but it has less understeer, more overall grip, better transitions and quicker response to steering inputs.

[tehnubber]

Hmm .. thanks for all the replies. Personally, I like the looks of an RSX-S better than a Celica's .. but only if it's black or blue (which is the color I want for it). If I got one, I didn't plan on working much on it .. pretty much going to leave it stock, except for a few minor mods such as blacked headlights, lowered, HIDs, tint, and CAI.

The reason I want to switch to one is because the RSX-S has been my (affordable)dream car way before I wanted a Celica. Plus, my Celica is an automatic .. switching to a 6 speed would be nice :)

[celiengineered]

I've driven my friend's 06 civic Si. I think marc's right on the money. The one thing I would say though is that the power delivery is so much smoother than the celica. I think that it seems more refined when you drive/ride in it. As far as the rsx, the motor is superior and it is capable of making more power with less investment. However, the looks are not as good as the celica. I chose the gts b/c of the looks and b/c stock they are about the same in performance. It really depends on what you want to do with your car.

[NeXuS-GT]

so lift kicks vtec in its nuts, good to know. so 100lbs is equal to 10hp? wow i knew weight made a difference but not that much

100lbs = 10HP, I'm not sure about that but for sure 100lbs = 0.10 seconds on a

[SlvCelica]

i ****ing hate rsx. all the rsx drivers i've seen on the road/know are a bunch of dick heads.
thinking they're ****ing king of the road and ****. ****ing hate them for life. but thats jujst my opinion. i hate em!!ＲＡＷＲ！！！！！

[Freakn Pwned]

i rode in both, chose the celica, the celica is fun to drive cause the kick it gives you when you hit lift where the rsx all it does it change tone and your like...is this v-tec or did my ears pop? the celica feels faster as well because your are lower to the ground and the interior is like a cockpit, it holds you in really well in the turns where the rsx doesn't have as aggressive seating you slide around a bit more and you sit up higher too. i would say the rsx is more for young families in there late 20's who dont want to go into dad mode and buy a sedan yet...you need to take a drive in a Manual gts to feel what everything feels like before you buy a rsx, you might like it more. but i dont disagree with the rsx is alittle easier to get power out of....it is a honda. But the rsx and civics are so common its fun to have something different from the rest of the crowd.

[Freakn Pwned]

O and hondas/acuras are the most commonly stolen car that is a fact...especially intergras they are #1. this is because it is so easy to get rid of the parts cause everyone has a civic or an integra

[Freakn Pwned]

It's not that much, he is wrong.

its 100 pounds equals + .10 second on average, i just read that a few places

you dont gain hp your power to weight ratio gets better

[Dasher17]

Only consider it if it is a type s. I have been Told that a type s and a gt-s is drivers race, so them being superior in every way not sure. And they say every 100lbs is equal to 10hp so since the gts weighs 2500 at 180hp, the type s weighs 2800 at 210hp it would make since for it to be a drivers race. As for v-tec Its completely unnoticable as to when it kicks in when ive been in my friends rsx. Which is strange because Lift is on the verge of throwing me back in my seat when it kicks in. So far I am unipressed with the rsx.
Stock for stock it is a drivers race but the second you put so much as an intake on them both the RSX will have no problem beating the celica. They respond 100x better to mods than the celica does. Vtec isn't unnoticable it's just not as powerful as lift. People who have never driven a truly fast car are easily impressed when their car goes from 140 to 180 hp in a few seconds.

i ****ing hate rsx. all the rsx drivers i've seen on the road/know are a bunch of dick heads.
thinking they're ****ing king of the road and ****. ****ing hate them for life. but thats jujst my opinion. i hate em!!ＲＡＷＲ！！！！！
You could say the same about a lot of celica drivers too.

O and hondas/acuras are the most commonly stolen car that is a fact...especially intergras they are #1. this is because it is so easy to get rid of the parts cause everyone has a civic or an integra
Actually this has changed quite a bit the past few years.
1. Honda Civic (1995)
2. Honda Accord (1991)
3. Toyota Camry (1989)
4. Ford F-150 (1997)
5. Chevrolet C/K 1500 (1994)
6. Acura Integra (1994)
7. Dodge Ram Pickup (2004)
8. Nissan Sentra (1994)
9. Toyota Pickup (1988)
10. Toyota Corolla (2007)



If you want my opinion get the RSX-S. I knew people on this site that did it and kept their celica but you don't see them around any more cause they decided they didnt want the celica any more after owning an RSX. It's not a sports car but it is a far better car than the celica. Don't let fanboys tell you otherwise.

[tehnubber]

Stock for stock it is a drivers race but the second you put so much as an intake on them both the RSX will have no problem beating the celica. They respond 100x better to mods than the celica does. Vtec isn't unnoticable it's just not as powerful as lift. People who have never driven a truly fast car are easily impressed when their car goes from 140 to 180 hp in a few seconds.


You could say the same about a lot of celica drivers too.


Actually this has changed quite a bit the past few years.
1. Honda Civic (1995)
2. Honda Accord (1991)
3. Toyota Camry (1989)
4. Ford F-150 (1997)
5. Chevrolet C/K 1500 (1994)
6. Acura Integra (1994)
7. Dodge Ram Pickup (2004)
8. Nissan Sentra (1994)
9. Toyota Pickup (1988)
10. Toyota Corolla (2007)



If you want my opinion get the RSX-S. I knew people on this site that did it and kept their celica but you don't see them around any more cause they decided they didnt want the celica any more after owning an RSX. It's not a sports car but it is a far better car than the celica. Don't let fanboys tell you otherwise.


Thanks for a legit reply.

[Agnu]

In the end it all goes down to the same damn quote " Its your money, do what you want."
=] and yes the upgrade from a auto celica and a rsx-s manual is big.

[Idiot Stick]

RSX-S is a better car than the Celica. Its a fact. Dasher's reply was 100% legit, and correct.

However, being your Celica is an Auto, even going to a Manual Celica GT would be an upgrade, IMO.

[lVlemphizStylez]

The B series set precedents, the K series completely destroyed the standard. It'd be an upgrade, but in the greater scope of things, they are both FWD cars, they are both handicapped in any motor sport. If you can get one and break even, then get the RSX-S. The aftermarket is better than the celica (obviously) and throw some bolt ons onto it and run consistent mid 13's on street rubber

[Freakn Pwned]

im not disagreeing that the rsx is better but if your using it as a daily driver and not ever going to take it to the track..stick with the gt-s unless your break even then it really doesn't matter

[tehnubber]

I will be using it as a daily driver. I'm not going to mod it out like crazy .. just a few minor ones (CAI, blacked headlights, HIDs, fogs, tint, and lowered). I would want a GTS but the interior head room is a large annoyance to me and ever since the RSX-S came out, I always wanted one (I have no idea why). Also, getting a GTS would just be like getting the same looking car ... getting a whole new car would be more exciting wouldn't you think?

To anyone that knows, how is the RSX compared to the Celica in terms of gas mileage, security, and insurance costs?

[allgencelica86]

Hey, I just figured I would pop in and shoot you some info.

Technically I did go from a celica to an rsx, just a 92 celica gt to an 06 rsx type s...

I came really close to buying a used 2000 celica gts last summer, but it fell through and now I'm glad it did. http://www.newcelica.org/forums/images/smilies/wiggle.gif

Mileage wise, I would bet you they are both about the same... I've only tested my mileage once because I've only had the car for about 2 weeks.

I got about 340 miles to my last tank which equated to about 29 mpg. Thats with the A/C on the entire time and with about half city and half highway driving. I don't remember what 7th gen celicas make, but they are most likely right around there.

Insurance isn't too bad I suppose... I went from paying 900 a year for liability for my 92 gt, to about 2300 for full coverage for my rsx. Geico btw...
I'm 22 if it helps any.

Whoever keeps saying that you cant feel vtec kick in is sadly mistaken... The thing is that the rsx-s has a much smoother power curve with a very nice power build up compared to the gts. the i-vtec pulls damn hard thats for sure.

If you have any other questions just let me know. I'll help a prospective rsx driver out.http://www.newcelica.org/forums/images/smilies/gapteeth.gif

Oh and here are some pics of my car... Bone stock I know... not for long http://www.newcelica.org/forums/images/smilies/lildevil.gif

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[Pulsar1]

I thought about getting one after I got rid of my celica, but thought it would have been silly to go from one sport compact to another. The maxima is quicker than both stock and its mpg its much off an RSX-S. I just wanted a more practical car as well though.

[R-Panda]

hmmmm..rsx are great cars but personally i love the celica's handling better than the rsx, i love the celica's looks way better than the rsx.. But it seems to me you like the RSX better than the celica, so i say go for it..but i doubt that you would break even..especially if you still owe some money on your celica. so many variables to consider..how much downpayment you put on your celi,how much interest rate you have on it, how much more you owe, how much they're gonna sell you the rsx for, etc..i used to sell cars not too long ago and by average, people trading their cars in lose atleast 2-3k not to mention if you got pounded and got you to spend more money. so good luck.

[CMLOKN]

O and hondas/acuras are the most commonly stolen car that is a fact...especially intergras they are #1. this is because it is so easy to get rid of the parts cause everyone has a civic or an integra

Actually you are wrog. According to NICB

The 1995 Honda Civic ranked as the most stolen vehicle from 2007

[booge71]

The RSX is better because of one reason...or two words...LIFT BOLTS.

The whole Lift Bolt fiasco is why I am getting rid of my Celica GT-S. I don't understand how a company could produce such a faulty piece of equipment, that is so prone to break. I have thought about buying a 2003 Celica GT-S because I love the shape of the Celi but apparently even those are technically still prone to eventually have problems with the LIFT BOLTS.

[Dasher17]

The RSX is better because of one reason...or two words...LIFT BOLTS.

The whole Lift Bolt fiasco is why I am getting rid of my Celica GT-S. I don't understand how a company could produce such a faulty piece of equipment, that is so prone to break. I have thought about buying a 2003 Celica GT-S because I love the shape of the Celi but apparently even those are technically still prone to eventually have problems with the LIFT BOLTS.

Ok ladies and gentlemen this is an example of a BAD reason to not buy a celica. There are bad reasons but lift bolts are a do it yourself project. I had little to no experience with engine work when I first got my celica but lift bolts were a 2,3 hour project at the most.

[hotshot2101]

track wise the 2000-2002 gts is faster the rsx-s up to 06 and its the same as the o6 and up. drag wise its a drivers race unless rsx is a 06 and up, looks wise celica owns, and my experiences from driving in rsx is they are rough, but its yr choice,

[lVlemphizStylez]

track wise the 2000-2002 gts is faster the rsx-s up to 06 and its the same as the o6 and up. drag wise its a drivers race unless rsx is a 06 and up, looks wise celica owns, and my experiences from driving in rsx is they are rough, but its yr choice,

no...they are not equal at all. 05-06 DC5's have seen mid 14's stock, consistently. The GTS has a hard time of seeing high 14's stock consistently between owners. Stop spreading bad information you do it too much. These aren't drivers races IMO with almost half a second variance. And lastly 06 and up would imply an RSX after 2006, no that's also wrong. 05-06 is what you're looking for

[Canon20]

05-06 is what you're looking for

agreed. case closed

[hotshot2101]

no...they are not equal at all. 05-06 DC5's have seen mid 14's stock, consistently. The GTS has a hard time of seeing high 14's stock consistently between owners. Stop spreading bad information you do it too much.

you need to learn how to read first i said track wise wich is not a drag track but a circut track 00-02 gts is quicker on circut track then a 02-04 rsx-s and they its is eqaul to a 05-06 rsx-s on a circut track

[lVlemphizStylez]

track wise the 2000-2002 gts is faster the rsx-s up to 06 and its the same as the o6 and up.

yea...faster than the 05's but not faster than the 06's yet the 05 and 06 RSX are identical...you fail dude no matter how you slice it. Anyhow you want to look at it, it shows you don't know wtf you're talking about

[NoUse4aName]

I went from an 02 RSX(base) to the 00 Celica GT.

I'd get right around 30mpg in the RSX, where I'm getting near 40 in the Celica. Same roads, same driver's habits. Have a 120 mile round trip daily commute so I'm mostly looking for a gas sipper that's also fun to drive around corners, not a drag racer.

[bean_sprout]

you'd probably wont be too happy with the celica even if you got the gts 6speed cause you said so yourself, you've always wanted the rsx-s right? they're pretty nice i think so, but i'd prefer my gts over the rsx anyday. hondas are everywhere and there aren't too many gts where im from, so im pretty excited about moddin mine to stand out. plus my rival just so happens to drive an Rsx-S...makes the race alot more fun.

[afgsk8er]

celica>rsx looks wayy betterr imo.

their both not really that fast unless you put a bunch of money in them...again imo :fawk: .

so id say go with a 6 speed gt-s, youll be alot happier with it then your auto.

[Mongokid]

OK OK OK, i went from a 00 gt-s to a 02 type-s here is the difference i had,

GT-S gas Miles, i can hit up to 450-500 miles on a tank, GT-S can turn way better and quicker, VVTL-I is Sexy when it kicks in, Very hard to upgrade unless you have money, Tranny is weak 2nd n 3rd is always grinding same as the type-s, Drivers race,
No leg space in the back, trunk is huge and better than RSX, seats are better,


Type-s
.2 liters sucks balls on gas. i get around 300-350 miles on a full tank, V-tek is very smooth cant hear it unless you get a intake and exhuast, Very easy to upgrade vs. to a celica where turbo parts are very expensive (than again if you have money who cares)
small trunk space but alot of leg room for back passengers to get in, 2nd n 3rd gears are almost the same as celicas.

Looks- personaly i like both and its your choice but both are nice.

Easy to modd will be the type-s

Looks well go to celica.

Power wise your money to spend....

[RevHappyGTS]

i heard the RSX and GT-S is a drivers race ONLY if the GT-S is from 00-02 and the RSX is under 06. I believe the 06 and up are a little.... more better. But in my opinion.. if i were to change cars, i wouldn't change to a car with such similar performance and style, id want the change to be HUGE if possible.

The rsx may be a little better i sopose. BUT i know one thing the RSX doesn't have.
The Looks - ( i love the looks of our car.) probably why girls love it too =/

05-06 RSX-S are the same. Actually, on paper the 05 RSX-S is the most powerful RSX-S sold in the US. 210hp. 06 is rated at 201 hp according to the new SAE standard and 02-04 RSX-S is rated at 200hp according to the old standard. :gap:

[Mongokid]

06 is the jdm motor so it is at 210. Fvck it find some 1 to go dyno or go look it up and itll tell you

[tehnubber]

Ahh man .. I gave it A LOT of thought. I think I'm going to go for the GTS. I figured it was the better choice since I won't be modding the crap out of the RSX-S and the GTS would be far greater for a daily driver. Thanks for all the help/opinions everybody. I only want to go for white again though .. which will be painfully difficult.

BTW, does the GTS take regular gas? Or does it take premium?

[Kangaruu]

Premium only.

:wave:

[tehnubber]

aww :(

[lVlemphizStylez]

it's a difference of 20 cents a gallon...so every 5 gallons you pay an extra dollar. Meaning it costs you 3 whole dollars extra over regular to fill a 15 gallon tank. It's not that serious, seeing as that extra 3 dollars couldn't even buy you a gallon of regular or a gallon of milk

[ano]

tehnubber

Forget all the above and focus in your needs:
1. You already have a celi. Getting the rsx there will be more excitement
2. You always wanted an rsx
3. Gas mileage - According to the users above, celi is the winner but who cares for ~ 10USD per week?
4. Looks: Exterior - both are nice, Interior - Celi is the winner
5. Handling: Celi


Personally, I love being lower in the roads and have the handling of the celi, however, you need an rsx baaaaadly! Go for it

[GSBoek]

it's a difference of 20 cents a gallon...so every 5 gallons you pay an extra dollar. Meaning it costs you 3 whole dollars extra over regular to fill a 15 gallon tank. It's not that serious, seeing as that extra 3 dollars couldn't even buy you a gallon of regular or a gallon of milk
Assuming he can go one week between fill ups, that's going to be $156 per year difference. Which means if he just sets aside 42 cents each day he's got that covered :gap:

[marc]

this "you can't feel VTEC/Lift is stronger" garbage has got to stop.

It is TOTAL bull****.

There are two reasons for it.

A) Honda tunes their cars MUCH better. VTEC transition is where it should be for that motor from the factory (things change with intake/exhaust) and as a result, VTEC transition is very smooth.

B) Toyota deliberately engineered a power dip right before lift kicks in, so it feels stronger than it is. Look at the power curves - the VTEC power curve is a lot smoother, and this means the car is going to be faster because it isn't dipping in power like the Celica just to impress the ricers driving it.

[lVlemphizStylez]

^ x2 and nice wheels in the sig

[Yrro]

RSX has a better motor. Their implementation of lift is definitely better. Sudden wheelspin at 6000 rpm is NOT a good thing, even if it does feel more "fun."

However... it's not that much better, and the celica's handling is at least as good. I don't see the point of trading one sort of used car for another sort of used car that is only marginally better, especially since (at least as of the last time I looked) you'll be paying significantly more for the RSX. Unless you really really want to, why bother spending the money?

Save up and get something that's an actual noticeable improvement or significantly newer.

[bean_sprout]

...I don't see the point of trading one sort of used car for another sort of used car that is only marginally better, especially since (at least as of the last time I looked) you'll be paying significantly more for the RSX. Unless you really really want to, why bother spending the money?

Save up and get something that's an actual noticeable improvement or significantly newer.



if i were to trade my gts for another car i'd get something thats totally different like an STI, MR or a GTR (i wish). a car in a higher class. otherwise i'd rather spend those extra $$$ to boost my gts. but for a type-s, which is also a cool car, i wouldn't.

[tehnubber]

I'm sure going to a manual RSX-S/GTS from an automatic GT will be a big improvement for me.

[rotchcrocket04]

I went from a Celica to a whole bunch of other cars and finally bought my wife a Civic SI sedan (basically a 4-door RSX-S with a limited slip differential, a superior intake manifold and the same cams as the 02-04, but milder cams than the 05+).

It pretty much kicks the crap out of the Celica across the board. My only complaint is that it has a little more body roll than the Celica, but it has less understeer, more overall grip, better transitions and quicker response to steering inputs.

I agree with Marc 100% on the Civic SI (essentially the RSX). My g/f bought the same car as Marc's wife. I really enjoy the car and all around it is a very solid car. +1 for the RSX.

When I sold the Celica I debated between whether or not I wanted to stay with a 4 cyl FWD or wanted to go 6cyl RWD. Well, you can see which direction I went, however, my first choice with a new(er) 4cyl was the RSX. They are good looking cars with a hell of an aftermarket, not to mention for 6-8k you can make one hell of a powerplant out of that motor.

[SunshineJenn03]

I currently drive a 2003 Celica GT and a 2006 RSX. My Celica gets phenomenally better gas mileage, sits lower, has a nicer interior and handles better. The only reason I drive the RSX is because my company gave it to me. I will say, however, that the RSX is pretty comfortable....but it better be, since the inside reminds me of a sedan.
I also hate the shifting on the RSX. Stock for stock, it feels like it takes longer to shift between gears on the RSX. Fortunately, my RSX is automatic, but I occasionally have to drive the other company RSX's and all but mine are stick. I'd go crazy if I had to shift gears on that car all the time.

[cocoajumpo]

Get the Type S

[donteatbugs]

i prefer the lightness of my celica to the weight of an rsx. other than that...get the bigger motor!!!!111

[tigress]

the RSX is nearly superior to the celica in EVERY way, shape or form.

Hrm...

my .02 cents and keep in mind I did not drive the type s version of the RSX, just the 5 speed.

It was not impressive. It was kind of bland. It was like driving a Civic. It didn't feel like it had a lot more power than the GT Celica anyways (I've never driven a GTS to compare) and it certainly didn't feel as fun handling wise as the Celica. It was honestly a huge disappointment after hearing about how much better performance they are. My dad said he's been in a few Integras and they were much better.

I am guessing the type s has a faster engine and hopefully a better suspension (otherwise i'll take the slower engine and much more fun handling personally. Besides, if the type s really handled like that I'd really wonder how they could attract a performance crowd).

Now, I will say the interior quality felt a lot more solid/better quality. The car itself felt more solid. Then again, that also means it felt heavier and there is something to be said about a lightfooted car.

You probably though should find one for sale and drive it and see what you think of it. I wouldn't recomend the non type s based on my experience though. From what I understand the Civic is lighter with at least the same powered engine (if not better) and has a stiffer suspension (and that last part is ridiculous since the Civic isn't being sold as a sporty car).

[tigress]

RSX-S is a better car than the Celica. Its a fact. Dasher's reply was 100% legit, and correct.

However, being your Celica is an Auto, even going to a Manual Celica GT would be an upgrade, IMO.

Most definitely.

Years ago I test drove a 2000 Celica automatic (I was curious cause I had seen the advertisements about a 6 speed Celica but they only had an auto on the floor). I thought it felt like some econo car with good looks. It really was totally unimpressive and sadly reminded me of driving my parent's Trooper cept that it was lighter so you could at least get some acceleration (anyone who has had the misfortune of driving an old Trooper should realize how insulting that is. Troopers SUCK!!! They may be good offroad but they are frustrating on road and bordering on dangerously slow for the highway in my opinion. And I am fine riding my little Rebel 250 on the highway. Think bike with a lawnmower engine).

The only reason I thought about tryign the car this time was cause when I sat in it it felt right (I was looking at Outbacks before which are totally not my style but I've gotten bored with driving and was thinking good dog car that I would not have to borrow my roommie's Audi when it snowed. After driving my dad's 66 Alfa I know why... new cars just don't have the feel of old cars. Evne the Celica really doesn't compare in how fun to drive that Alfa was or my old 1973 911). I decided maybe I'd try out a stickshift and see if giving it a gearshift made any difference in how well it performed.

Let me tell ya, it makes a *HUGE* difference. With a stickshift, the car has pretty fun acceleration (maybe not great but I tend to be more about the handling anyways). I mean it's really hard to believe how much a difference it makes. I am betting they geared the automatic for good gas mileage but poor performance for it to have that big of a difference.

And you know, the prices seem to reflect it. I know people say gearshift makes the car cheaper. But honestly, the majority of cheap Celica's (I mean noticeabley cheaper than the prices I usually see) I've seen are automatic.

[Norbert214]

here are my .02 cents into this convo... ok i have driven the rsx-s, and taken a look at the engine and it has the same engine as the 06-07 civic si, which is a 2.0. and im not sure about you guys but that is not regular v-tech. in fact it is called I-vtech, which is more powerful than regular vtech. im jusy saying what i know, because the only difference between the two engines is the head work. one is K20A and the other idk. hahaha

[lVlemphizStylez]

here are my .02 cents into this convo... ok i have driven the rsx-s, and taken a look at the engine and it has the same engine as the 06-07 civic si, which is a 2.0. and im not sure about you guys but that is not regular v-tech. in fact it is called I-vtech, which is more powerful than regular vtech. im jusy saying what i know, because the only difference between the two engines is the head work. one is K20A and the other idk. hahaha

what???:confused:

[acuradc5boy]

I think hes trying to say that the vtec in the new si and s are called ivtec and he is right its been like that since the introduction of the RSX. And I saw a comment stateing that you cant feel the vtec well you can on the base because it doesnt have Ivtec really its a form of it but it just doesnt compare to the real thing now the type S and newer SI you will know when Vtec kicks it I believe it actavates at lower RPMs then the VVTLI of Toyota like 5500 or something not sure. but you can feel it Its like an explosion of power and you feel it in your body so yeah its noticeible thats why most RSX type S owners try to keep it from activating on regular driving but in a race its a blast. alos it destroys gas in IVTEC mode lol but if your driving normally its just as good give or take 1 or two miles per gallon. Oh and both the new civic and 05-06 rsx type s use the same engine civic has more aggressive cams or somthing producing about 2-3 more hp at the wheel which isnt mush but in a long race it helps alot. Both have IVTEC RSX has always had IVTEC

[blk_celi]

i was going to buy a rsx-s at first then "it got stolen" off the lot" (super shady) so then i bought the GTS. in my opinion their both nice and good cars. next car is going to be g35 or rsx though.. in a year or two. still really loving the gts

[acuradc5boy]

i was going to buy a rsx-s at first then "it got stolen" off the lot" (super shady) so then i bought the GTS. in my opinion their both nice and good cars. next car is going to be g35 or rsx though.. in a year or two. still really loving the gts

lol every car can get stolen most stolen ACura integra .. RSX is harder to steal due to new safty things they have but it happens to all cars lol. might have been due to the company leaving it unlocked at night when its locked if u dont have the key or keyless remote to open it it will sound off so i think the rsx u were going to buy was left unlocked on accident

[ikkaku]

Weird how easily the car gets jacked when it has a stock immobilizer. Was it from a shady Kingsway dealership, if so, enough said.

[B.A.R.R]

I bought the type r :)

[Norbert214]

im glad someone here got what i was trying to say, :thumbup: and yeah i-vtech does drink gas when its activated, i was driving my brothers car yesterday, and it seemed to kick in at about 4k to 4.3k, so on regular driving, i try to keep it below 3.5k in the rpm gauge ;)

[GSBoek]

It's i-VTEC.

[Norbert214]

hahaha sorry for the spelling ^^^ oh has anyone seen the videos on youtube? about the rice, and his "vtak OR vtac" honda LMAO!

[FriedChicken]

I drive my bros RSX sometimes and I dislike the seats very much. It aches my back after a long period of driving.

[blk_celi]

the rsx was located in new west minster. but holy crap it was so shady.... rebuilt rsx.... 45,000km 2002 price was 11,500. iw as going to get the car checked.


i did end up buying my celica at a kingsway dealership though... the car isnt too bad.... but its a 2000 and it has just under 100,000kms, maybe it got rolled back or cluster changed?