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SpanishCelica
08-11-2008, 11:57 AM
i need some tires for my rims that wont hydroplane but will perform well on dry cornering, was wondering if anybody had any suggestions, experience with some good tires??

Entranced
08-11-2008, 03:10 PM
lol, good luck finding a good tire that comes in a profile that rediculously small...

jlitman
08-11-2008, 05:03 PM
The RT-615's are pretty good in water for a summer tire.

02celica
08-11-2008, 05:06 PM
wow thats a small tire.

and im pretty sure all tires will hydroplane.

Loser_guy
08-12-2008, 06:48 PM
The narrower the tire the less it's going to hydroplane. I don't mean sidewall height, I mean actual width. And despite popular belief a wider tire doesn't = grip, it just means longer life. Grip lies within the compound.


That being said, my parade spec-2 (225 width) have never hydroplaned with me and the drainage on the mountainous roads here is pretty horrible, so take from that what you will.

blkcelica01
08-12-2008, 10:03 PM
yokohama s-drive (summer tires only)

oscar@edgeracing.com
08-13-2008, 12:20 PM
And despite popular belief a wider tire doesn't = grip, it just means longer life. Grip lies within the compound.

Not really true, grip will increase with width, and with compound also. Remember that in the end, the wider the contact patch the more friction the tire will be able to create. Having a wide tire with a soft compound gives you an excellent performing tire. The RT-615's are pretty good in water for a summer tire. As far as not hydroplaning the RT615 are definitely not all that great in the wet, weather new or used, however most tires as they start wearing out will loose their water channeling capabilities causing the tire to hydroplane. Whenever the tire can’t channel the water away from the contact patch it will cause you to hydroplane. Once the tires are worn out the wider the tire the more it will tend to hydroplane.

As far as a good wet/dry tire, look into the Falken FK452, Toyo T1R, Goodyear GSD3 to name a few.

SpanishCelica
08-13-2008, 06:27 PM
i have yokohama parada spec-2's on there now and they were very good but as they wear they get alot worse in the water i was just lookin to see what others had and how they performed

02celica
08-13-2008, 08:07 PM
The narrower the tire the less it's going to hydroplane. I don't mean sidewall height, I mean actual width. And despite popular belief a wider tire doesn't = grip, it just means longer life. Grip lies within the compound.

Your wrong on the width. More surface area = better grip.

hefzcelica
08-13-2008, 08:20 PM
bf goodrich's kdw! great all season tire kinda noisy tho.

jlitman
08-13-2008, 08:30 PM
Not really true, grip will increase with width, and with compound also. Remember that in the end, the wider the contact patch the more friction the tire will be able to create. Having a wide tire with a soft compound gives you an excellent performing tire. As far as not hydroplaning the RT615 are definitely not all that great in the wet, weather new or used, however most tires as they start wearing out will loose their water channeling capabilities causing the tire to hydroplane. Whenever the tire can’t channel the water away from the contact patch it will cause you to hydroplane. Once the tires are worn out the wider the tire the more it will tend to hydroplane.

As far as a good wet/dry tire, look into the Falken FK452, Toyo T1R, Goodyear GSD3 to name a few.
Personally, I found the RT-615's superior to the Kumho MX's in water, to compare it to another inexpensive max grip tire, and most reviews place them above the notoriously slipperly old Azeni's... but, of course, they are primarily designed for dry roads.

However, I also had the Toyo T1-S's (predecessor to the R's, I believe), and found them no better than the RT-615's in standing water, and far worse on dry roads. Their best feature is that they are very, very light.