GReddy turbo for RSX ALREADY!!!! [Archive]

ZIGGY GTS

10-31-2001, 08:46 PM

greddy turbo for the RS-X, damn...thats tiight...too bad for u celica owners huh? i guess u guys are gonna have to make do with intake and exhausts for a while...probably a long while.. or take a big hit from XS engineering....hahaha

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Redlyne

10-31-2001, 09:23 PM

Yeah that's kinda gay.

Hey who wants to make a bet that in one year the RSX will have more aftermarket parts than the Celica?

I don't know if that's the base engine or not. Numbers have not been out either, but it should be good.

zooq

10-31-2001, 09:31 PM

i'll bet that the RSX will have more parts in 3 months than what the celica will have for the next TEN YEARS.<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm45.gif" border=0>

sdGTS

10-31-2001, 09:37 PM

Redlyne - that turbo is for the type-S.

The aftermarket sucks for anything other than a honda or acura.<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm23.gif" border=0>

nmyeti

10-31-2001, 09:54 PM

I'd say the aftermarket for the WRX is quite nice acutally

Who would have thought... http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/wink.gif

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ZIGGY GTS

10-31-2001, 10:11 PM

actually the aftermarket sucks for the celica...Period! the only toyoya's that are fully supported by the aftermarket are supra's and trucks...And of course old school AE86 Corolla's.....some companies still develop parts for these 16 year old cars..but yeah, the celica is lagging far behind...But yeah, when it comes to aftermarket support, U cant beat the " H "

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Keyshawn

10-31-2001, 10:18 PM

Well, that blows alot of our theories about why our aftermarket sucks outta the water:

Theory #1- It takes years to develop aftermarket parts for new engines/platforms.

Theory #2 - Our tight engine bays make it extremely difficult to make a turbo kit.

Theory #3 - Our engine's high compression makes it extremely difficult to make a turbo kit for.

It is frustrating to see how quickly and easily GReddy developed an RSX turbo kit.

The question is: what do we do about it. Just be content with our weak, unHonda-like aftermarket, or try to actively change this silly-ass tendency by these aftermarket manufacturers to favor Hondas so much and ignore us?

This message has been edited by Keyshawn on November 01, 2001 at 01:36 AM

Keyshawn

10-31-2001, 10:25 PM

I say we kick our efforts into overdrive in making these companies aware that we Celica enthusiasts want a turbo kit. A bolt-on CARB legal kit at a reasonable price that has been tested by a trusted company for performance and RELIABILITY. I really don't think this is too much to ask for. So instead of developing a "F@CK GREDDY" attitude that is so easy to have right now, I'm going to give them a call and email them as soon as possible to tell them that WE ARE READY AND WAITING FOR A TURBO KIT. Anyone care to join me?

Greddy: (949)588-8300
email: info@greddy.com

Keyshawn

10-31-2001, 10:34 PM

...OR if we do just say "F@CK GREDDY" and give up on those guys, what other companies should be hit up for some quality forced induction? Any ideas?

The Wok

10-31-2001, 11:00 PM

I just broke em off a piece of my mind.

10-31-2001, 11:08 PM

I posted this topic up awhile ago when I did some R&D for their GT Exhaust. I was stuned myself to see the tubro already done on the RSX S. I would email or call Greedy and tell them that there is a huge market for the GT/GTS. First though I would make a post "Who would be interested in a greedy turbo for our cars". This would show them there an big interest in a turbo. I could help you guys out I just need proof to give to them to try to push it into development. I already have an in with them because I helped them out before with R&D. I need to go back soon and this documentation would be something that I could submit to them. It would benefit all of us. Greedy is a top notch company.

Redlyne

10-31-2001, 11:52 PM

You meant GReddy, right? I think Greedy actually sounds better. <IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm27.gif" border=0>

Anyways, best of luck to you.

Keyshawn

11-01-2001, 12:18 AM

Since profit is really the ONLY reason why GReddy has not made a turbo for us, calling them "GReedy" is actually quite appropriate. But they are a business, and businesses need to make money. Anyway, 4B thanks for the positivity and idea about letting GReddy know about our aftermarket needs. I'll do what I can, but I know that we can only stir up our aftermarket if EVERYONE HERE THAT CARES actively tries to change the situation in a positive, creative way. Hopefully, I'm not alone in doing this.

This message has been edited by Keyshawn on November 01, 2001 at 03:39 AM

CgCelica

11-01-2001, 12:23 AM

THAT SUCKS !<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm14.gif" border=0> Celicas are good, make stuff for us....please<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm36.gif" border=0>

11-01-2001, 12:32 AM

Keyshawn- Thanks. Im going to start a thread about it. Ill work hard to see what I can do to get things rolling. Im know them aleast from my R&D work so I have an in. I just need everone who would want a tubo by them to back me up. lates

CgCelica

11-01-2001, 12:46 AM

I think I'm speaking for everyone on this board- We'll back you up 100% !

Luni420

11-01-2001, 02:16 AM

I dont plan on buying a turbo but I think it would be killer for us Celica peeps to have a CHOICE in the matter. I mean I know people want a turbo and who am I to stop them and if it takes a simple 5 min letter to Greddy to let them know how I feel about it and to tell them to add one more person to the list that wants a turbo then I feel its my duty to do it for ALL the Celica owners. We gotta stand up and let them know we mean buisness and will make them some money doing it.

GTS LAID

11-01-2001, 02:39 AM

bastards... just bastards...

one day the toyota name will be right there with honda and not just the name of a championship CART race.

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Unity112

11-01-2001, 03:30 AM

I think I finally got a grip of the aftermarket support from numerous emails I've sent and recieved. The Celica has been out for almost 2 years now, and our aftermarket is minimal compared to these others that have just came out. ie, the ford focus. Our car is not impossible to develop for. So I don't want to hear about difficulties developing for it. Companies just don't have us on their priority list. They would much rather devlop for something else and yet give the same runaround to us. "It will appear later this year." "We will look into it in the near future."
They have their priorities, and they won't change that. But please by all means email companies and try to figure out whats up.

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Carboy

11-01-2001, 05:42 AM

Damn, that does suck. But take this into consideration. That Greddy kit could just be a prototype. I don't believe Greddy has the privelage of getting the car before it was actually available, that kind of privelage only goes to race teams. It takes time to design a Turbo Kit for a car like the RSX(same as GT-S). I'm willing to bet that it's not a working kit.

But you guys are right, it's not fair that there are more companies making parts for Honda and pushing you guys aside. But you have to realize it's a business, and that's where most of the market is. I believe I saw more RSX in it's first month out that I saw a GT-S the first month out. Also, Hondas have been the choice for street racers for 5-6 years before the Celica came out. You can build alot of support in 5-6 years.

What you guys have to do is make some noise! When Rado's car comes out plan on getting a bunch of you guys there and show other companies there is a market for you guys!

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jotan82

11-01-2001, 05:44 AM

not a surprise, but definately disappointing <IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm3.gif" border=0>

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Celicapexi

11-01-2001, 06:09 AM

All I have to say is BULL$HIT. that fu(kin sux. Greddy better make a turbo for the celica soon

CelicaNamja79

11-01-2001, 06:17 AM

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ringthree

11-01-2001, 06:28 AM

The thing that really upsets me, is that these companies LIE. They straight up to your face LIE. When I called them they would say that the CR is to high and that the engine bay was too cramped. This was just a straight LIE, as evidenced by there work on the RSX. They were like it was a joke or something when I asked them if they would be developing a turbo for the RSX. But the Celica was a whole different story. They are almost the same car. Man it would be so much nicer is they just said, "Hey we dont think that people will buy them, we dont think theres a market, if you have people put up money then we will look into it." But no they would much rather live in their little holes and bash away just like every other POS company that works FOR honda alone.

I just wish these companies would tell the truth. What about RMM. They are almost exclusively Toyota. What about Hotchkis, that company has TOTALLY jumped on the Celica, those guys are great and incredibly knowledgable. These are the companies we need to support, buy their stuff and ask for more! Also jump on TRD more and more a weekly call. Look man we already motivated them to bring out lower compression pistons. They know the demand is there, ask about Kazuma, about whats happening at SEMA, about TRD Japan, anything we have to continue to show total focus on the car.

I'm done ranting for now, but at least I feel more motivated everytime this happens.

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icyjaws

11-01-2001, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by The Wok:
I just broke em off a piece of my mind.

You guys can't be bitching at them. I know for a fact the one company (which will never be named) said that they would give up on the celica because of the HARSSMENT they had been get from celica owners. They said they had almsot 300k invested into R&D for the celica allready and it would be stupid for them to stop now.
On That note call/email/write the companys (greddy, hks, TRD, etc.) but DON'T be assses. Just show them that there is intrest in parts and there is a market for them.

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Keyshawn

11-01-2001, 07:36 AM

Icyjaws,
Great point! You gotta be calm, articulate, and intelligent when you tell them about the demand for a kit. An annoyed as I get about these companies' close minded attitude, I always talk to their reps in a reasonable, logical way.

ringthree

11-01-2001, 07:45 AM

Hey Keyshawn and Icyjaws, I totally agree with you about how to act toward these companies. I come here to vent my frustrations, we shouldnt vent to the companies. I know that I once said to boycott them but that probably wouldnt work and I still would never call them up just to complain. But the condiscending attitude that HKS and GReddy both have can get to be very frustrating, and thats the reason that I rant about it on here. Maybe we should try killing them with kindness instead, something has got to work.

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Celicapexi

11-01-2001, 07:47 AM

N E 1 have the Email address for HKS or Greddy. I will give my car to them for the R & D testing or what ever they need. I will send them pic of my car so if they see how much all of us spend on our cars then maybe they will reconsider.

Keyshawn

11-01-2001, 07:56 AM

Celicapexi,
Here ya go:

Greddy: (949)588-8300
email: info@greddy.com

HKS USA: (310)-763-9600
( I don't have their email address,yet)

Celicapexi

11-01-2001, 10:53 AM

Ok thanx I am going to drop them an email with pics of my car and lets see what they say.

Some one take a count and let me know how many GTS turbos and how many GT turbo so I can give them around how many and see if it will be worth it.

Bobbeh

11-01-2001, 11:11 AM

I guess good can come out of this. If loads of RSX peeps want it and buy it, that money could help pay for the Celica's turbo R&D + production. Also there will probably be an increased demand by Celica owners for a Turbo when there are RSX's with them belting about - causing more companies to meet the demand. Maybe http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smile.gif

cybrpunk

11-01-2001, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Carboy:
Damn, that does suck. But take this into consideration. That Greddy kit could just be a prototype. I don't believe Greddy has the privelage of getting the car before it was actually available, that kind of privelage only goes to race teams. It takes time to design a Turbo Kit for a car like the RSX(same as GT-S). I'm willing to bet that it's not a working kit.

But you guys are right, it's not fair that there are more companies making parts for Honda and pushing you guys aside. But you have to realize it's a business, and that's where most of the market is. I believe I saw more RSX in it's first month out that I saw a GT-S the first month out. Also, Hondas have been the choice for street racers for 5-6 years before the Celica came out. You can build alot of support in 5-6 years.

What you guys have to do is make some noise! When Rado's car comes out plan on getting a bunch of you guys there and show other companies there is a market for you guys!

The reason why nobody saw Celicas in their first month of existance was because Toyota didn't really advertise the Celica like Acura did with the RSX. Honestly, when I got my Celica back in Oct. of '99, I literaly had hundreds and hundreds of people asking me what kind of car I had. I'm thinking Toyota didnt want to go all out with TV advertisments the first couple months.

The reason you see a lot of RSX's on the street is because Acura has a good commercial for the RSX. The Idea of driveing on a curvy mountain road, redlining every gear gets every racer at heart a rush of adrenalin. Thats why you saw more RSX's then Celicas.

cybrpunk

11-01-2001, 12:25 PM

All the turbo/supercharger companies are really stupid not to get their FI product in the Celica. Do any of you guys realize just how many people on this board and at Celica.net, and Celica owners on the street are starving for FI? GT or GT-S? Correct me if im wrong, but didnt someone on this board e-mail Greddy one time and they said that they werent interested in making a turbo for the celica because there wasnt a demand? Then everyone started e-mailing them and calling them, and they said that they are putting it on their "think about it" list?

And what, the RSX is out no more than 2-4 months and Greddy has a turbo/prototype turbo out already? WTF! If I owned an aftermarket turbo company I would be a very, very, VERY rich man right now selling turbo kits for like $2500-$4000 to Celica owners right now.

static

11-01-2001, 01:31 PM

If this is an actual working kit, then I must say I"m EXREMELY dissapointed. I don't know.. I think lots of Celica drivers have been making noise for a while now.. but nothing is really happening for us. This car has had attention in the media and other outlets.. and that STILL hasn't been enough for companies to be interested in us..

It's one thing to ask.. but we are getting to the point of BEGGING.. and that's just sad, and in my opinion, not worth it. This is what these companies do.. and if they haven't seen potential in us by now?? Really guys.. I think it's just time to let it go and screw them. If I want a car just to mod.. I"ll buy a domestic before I buy a honda..

An aftermarket for my Celica would be nice.. but I"m not going to beg anyone for it anymore. I'm through "asking".

"F" them.

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cybrpunk

11-01-2001, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by static:
If this is an actual working kit, then I must say I"m EXREMELY dissapointed. I don't know.. I think lots of Celica drivers have been making noise for a while now.. but nothing is really happening for us. This car has had attention in the media and other outlets.. and that STILL hasn't been enough for companies to be interested in us..

It's one thing to ask.. but we are getting to the point of BEGGING.. and that's just sad, and in my opinion, not worth it. This is what these companies do.. and if they haven't seen potential in us by now?? Really guys.. I think it's just time to let it go and screw them. If I want a car just to mod.. I"ll buy a domestic before I buy a honda..

An aftermarket for my Celica would be nice.. but I"m not going to beg anyone for it anymore. I'm through "asking".

"F" them.

RIGHT ON!

The Wok

11-01-2001, 04:00 PM

Oh, I wasn't harassing them, I just asked them what the real reason why they aren't doing jack schitt and if demand was the reason then check out all of the 7th gen message boards (I think I tell them that every time) then see if there's no demand.

TOYCAM 555

11-01-2001, 04:37 PM

well this was the only smart thing for greddy to do cus they know honda owners usually want turbos and superchargers. they knwo they will make oney if they made the turbo for the rsx type -s thats why they did it. they still don't belive the celca owners will be more business. i really think tey should make a turbo but u know it is all about te money.

Keyshawn

11-08-2001, 02:09 PM

I've been on such an emailing/calling frenzy that just for kicks I asked GReddy and HKS about their RSX turbo kits. GReddy said that the one shown at SEMA was just a prototype and that it wouldn't be ready til late May 2002 at the earliest. The rep said that the fuel system needed refining. HKS said that their turbo kit, also a prototype may or may not ever be released, based on whether it is approved by CARB. I guess it ain't that easy to make a turbo for the RSX after all.

This message has been edited by Keyshawn on November 08, 2001 at 05:21 PM

kocheroni

11-08-2001, 02:28 PM

I think that you guys are looking at this wrong. Yes, they are being slightly unfair in not taking into consideration the amount of people who would invest in a turbo, but it is their company, and they choose what htey do. So don't herass them. Check out this letter I wrote, clean cut and to the point. Send them an email and voice your opinion:

Hi, I'm emailing you in concern for an aftermarket turbo for the 2000+ Toyota Celica's. Although I know that there isn't as many people who buy aftermarket cars for Celica's, as compared to Honda's or the Acura RSX, there is a large following of us who are very interested in an aftermarket turbo. From my understanding, greddy as already said that it is too tight to fit a turbo into our cars, however I feel that if you relook at the design of our engine, one will fit. If you take the time to look at newcelica.org, you will see that there are roughly 6000 members on that website who are all willing to spend money to make their cars better. They've purchased Cold Air intakes, exhausts, coil overs, and many other aftermarket parts. Without even investing the time and taking a survey, you guys will have no idea what type of market you are missing. Please, reconsider how you approach the Toyota Celica and creating a turbo for it. I feel that you would be surprised if you found out the extent of people who would purchase a turbo for a reasonable price. Thankyou for your time.

Keyshawn

11-08-2001, 02:33 PM

kocheroni,
I can't speak for everyone, but when I email/call I do it in an intelligent and reasonable way. I don't even bring up the RSX when I inquire about Celica parts. When I called about the RSX a few minutes ago, that's ALL I asked about. Just because people are venting here on the board doesn't mean their saying the same stuff to those companies.

Slade_Templar

11-08-2001, 04:29 PM

**** greddy. do you really want a misubishi turbo inside of your car? You guys need to be thinking about Garret or Turbonetics or something. Of course Greddy is a bunch of honda loving bastards, you should have already known that. Oh and by the way, Toyota has 2 cars that have large aftermarkets, and thats the Supra and the MR2, and they still arent very big compared to honda crap.

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yakkosmurf

11-08-2001, 04:31 PM

I personally don't see a company being able to sell enough turbos for a Celica at a reasonable price and still make money. There's too much chance they'll get burned. There are enough Honda racing teams that will buy stuff for the RSX as they convert to it. Also, with the RSX-R, Honda has shown continued commitment to performance in this car format.

Unity112

11-08-2001, 07:31 PM

Greddy doesn't want to make something for us, thats all right, David Draper is promising (and I'm holding that to you bud http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smile.gif ) a turbo kit from TRD. In all honesty, the Greddy kits weren't all that in the first place anyways.

Yakko thats ridiculous. Everyday the Celica base gets larger and larger, and more people who are performance oriented are joining. They can't lose money, because well, that same mentality could pass for parts for say the focus, gsr, or any of these "non type r's". So what if they aren't totally commited race cars. I find it plain naive to believe that people will not buy it because demographics show that people buy more body kits. If you make it people will buy it. I assure that. People want to compete against cars, and show that the celica isn't a joke. "A hairdressers car" like I've seen on other boards. So let us do our thing and talk (I said talk, not attack guys) to these companies and collaberate an effort to get some real products out. Forget Greddy, and keep researching. There are more companies out there with better products.

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