What is the best springs to have on car?

[StreetFighter]

What is the best springs to have on a car with the stock 16" rims? I don't want to get coilovers either.

[caz]

how low do you want to be....?

[StreetFighter]

I want to get rid of the ugly gap. So 1.5" to 2".

If you have springs on with a kit, can you still go through car washes? I have stock springs with a kit and I can barely make it through the car wash.

[twanmoney]

Looks or Handling?

If you goin for handling i think more than a 1inch drop w/o any other suspension mods will hurt ya.
Correct me if i am wrong. Thought i saw a respectable member (autoxr) post about this a while ago.

p.s. dont use the car wash if at all possible!

[baNanA_ryCe]

through the car wash? you gotta hand wash.....

[caz]

car wash = :nono:

[StreetFighter]

So what springs should I get?

[CeliRacer]

I would just stick with the TRD springs.

[QWKsilvr808]

I'd recommend H&R springs above anything else... nice drop, and an excellent combination of tight handling and smooth ride.

[RacingCelica]

I say go with Progress. they pretty good. It allow us to take corners at a very high speed without even letting go to the gas. Very good handling. With a nice looking drop. I like my springs.

[baNanA_ryCe]

progress is how much drop? and what about eiback pro or trd? not low enuff?

[RacingCelica]

well i got a 1.75 drop in the front and a 1.5 drop in the rear

[warpig]

Ok, I will pass on the knowledge I have accumulated thus far. Your main concern is going about 2 inches lower --- BUT not scraping at the car wash. Well this probably is not going to happen. If you are barely making it now, then chances are --- you will scrape at the car wash. (Just a little pre-info info)

As far as springs go, I would stick with a well known brand (Hotchkis, Eibach, TRD). You said NO Coilovers, so I don't have to explain any of the COMPLETE coilover setups. The Hotchkis will not eliminate the fender/tire gap completely, but will provide a nice look (without sacrificing the stock shocks too much). The TRD springs will provide a tiny drop (not VERY noticable) --- but if you are worried about scraping, then this is the best bet. It will not put any hinderance on your stoch shocks either. Now, Eibach makes two different kits.
1. Proline (Basically the TRD in disguise--- since Eibach actually makes the TRD springs) These setups are basically identical
2. Sportline --- This is probably the best QUALITY drop you will get in a set of JUST springs. The drop is really nice too. As far as stock shocks go, well they will most likely wear out a little quicker than normal. But this is to be expected when going to a drastic drop. As far as a camber kit goes, some say the stock settings will suffice, and some sat that they got camber links. I cannot tell you for sure since I do not have this setup on my car.

As far as the other companies that manufacture springs for the Celica; I am not well versed on them and, therefore, cannot give you accurate information about the specs and problems. Hope I helped. Peace

[HilfigerCelica]

If you want a noticeable drop but don't want to scrape every time you go into a drive way, I'd recommend Hotchkis or H&R.

[N2OInferno]

I got Eibach Sportlines and love them. Check the link in my sig for pictures.

[The Game]

TRD is/are the best!

[LEDmod]

Well.. here are my thoughts.......
If you want the LOOK and HANDLING go lower...
Between brands, there are little difference in ride stiffness(+ and -) most are more comfort side..
If you don't go 2" or more... you won't see that much in LOOK and Handling..
Lower you go.. better handling you get(with out going complete coil overs or full set of suspension)...
You can go as low as 3" or more... if you are hard core...
You gona scrap lots of things... you can't do complete U turn..
2-2.25 which give you really good drop.... significant Look and Handling...... don't scrap if you are careful and still do complete U turn... Chumpchiggy has 2.25 front and back and he is happy with it....
I've order my spring which is 2.25 front and 2.5 back..
Sportline are 1.8 front and 2.4 in back.. which is not bad.....

Lots of people here are conservative side IMO..
If you drop less then 2" you won't see that much Look, but you'll feel little better in handling compare to stock...

Stiffness are different among brands... but there are not much to be different to be felt alot...

If you want to have GOOD look and Handls pretty good... go around 2" drop.... not too conservatice and not too hardcore...

[TRlPPlN]

skunk2 lowering springs...

[chameleon]

Sorry Dooly, but I really have to disagree with you about the handling issue. I can see where you are coming from, it is logical to assume that the lower your ride height is, the better your car will be at attacking corners. The ideology behind improving handling from lowering your car is that the car will take corners better because of the lower center of gravity, but in reality, the lower you go with your drop, the worse your car will handle. If you lower it 2" you are going to sacrifice a ton of performance, and if you go even lower than 2" you can forget about keeping up with a stock celica on a twisty road. The problem is that the reduction in suspension travel eliminates the cars ability to deal with irregularities and hold the road. If you lower your car a bunch, you will look really cool while the car is sitting motionless, but driving on the road, you will just look like a fool because you will be bouncing around all the time. In order to get improved handling from a lower ride height, you need a full suspension package with parts that were designed to work together at the lowered stance(short shocks). I'm sure that a more knowledgeable member such as autxer, nxracer, or NoCones could do a much better job at describing how critical proper ride height is for your suspension.

I would say that the best coil springs you could get for your car are TRD, Hotchkis, or H&R. If you want to lower your car just for looks, I would reccomend keeping it at around 2" or higher, any lower than that and you will really be bouncing around a lot more than you should.

[snake005]

get some Goldline 2.0" springs....no more gap in the back on stock 16's
I have a pic of my car w/ a drop and a wingswest body kit
snake005@hotmail.com

[LEDmod]

Originally posted by chameleon
Sorry Dooly, but I really have to disagree with you about the handling issue. I can see where you are coming from, it is logical to assume that the lower your ride height is, the better your car will be at attacking corners. The ideology behind improving handling from lowering your car is that the car will take corners better because of the lower center of gravity, but in reality, the lower you go with your drop, the worse your car will handle. If you lower it 2" you are going to sacrifice a ton of performance, and if you go even lower than 2" you can forget about keeping up with a stock celica on a twisty road. The problem is that the reduction in suspension travel eliminates the cars ability to deal with irregularities and hold the road. If you lower your car a bunch, you will look really cool while the car is sitting motionless, but driving on the road, you will just look like a fool because you will be bouncing around all the time. In order to get improved handling from a lower ride height, you need a full suspension package with parts that were designed to work together at the lowered stance(short shocks). I'm sure that a more knowledgeable member such as autxer, nxracer, or NoCones could do a much better job at describing how critical proper ride height is for your suspension.

I would say that the best coil springs you could get for your car are TRD, Hotchkis, or H&R. If you want to lower your car just for looks, I would reccomend keeping it at around 2" or higher, any lower than that and you will really be bouncing around a lot more than you should.


Hmm... I got that part...
I know that going too low isn't a good ideal.. but with out spending like thousand or two on suspension... you not gona get the best handling...
I believe StreetFighter doesn't want to pay for that kind of money.. which I wouldn't as of now.. later on down the road if I can save enough for it then.. I will.. but I'm kind of tight on budget.... and want to have good handling.....
Even at 2.25 inch drop it's not bouncy...

[Coolwheels00]

I have dropzone springs on mine and I don't have the first complaint. Great handling and looks perfect IMO. The drop is 1.8"
Here's some before and after pics to give you an idea of what that looks like.
Before.
http://images.andale.com/f2/121/114/1510474/1025243527935_Before_1.jpg
After.
http://images.andale.com/f2/121/114/1510474/1025243527605_after_1.jpg
And more.
Before.
http://images.andale.com/f2/121/114/1510474/1025243527239_Before_2.jpg
And After.
http://images.andale.com/f2/121/114/1510474/1025243526670_after_2.jpg

I also have a kit, exhaust, and scoop all coming next month to finish the looks. (except for wheels). And FYI, I honestly have never bottomed out or scraped on anything yet. Fullsize speedbumps and driveways are no problem. That'll prolly change when the Kam front goes on though. It's a little lower.

[StreetFighter]

Thanks for all the info guys. I'll probably do a 1.75 in the back and 1.5 up front. Which brand has that kind of drop and whats the price on them?

[chameleon]

Good point Dooly ;)

I agree, you don't need to spend thousands of dollars on your suspention to have a little fun with your car. Also, you may be right about the ride that you get from a drop of 2 or more inches, its really going to be a matter of opinion anyhow. I used to have GC's raised all the way up(1.75 inches lower than stock), and at that height I felt that my suspention was bouncing a lot more than it should. It looked cooler with it lowered a little more than that, but when I lowered it any more the shocks would just be in constant rebound. It probably wasn't that bad though, I'm just really picky ;)

[LEDmod]

Haha.. yea.. little too picky.....
I don't want to pay too much for now.. so I just have to stick with what is cheap.... later on... full suspension kit from Hotchkis ALL THE WAY..... for now I just have to live with little bouncy...
Well... hopefully I get my friend mon or tue.. and install it by following week.... me and my friend gona install it out selves..
I'll get the picture if I can afford the dang digital cam....

[VVTL-i-KiCkIn]

hey any of you lowered your car having serious tire wear problems? it seems like front inner thread of my tire is wearing out faster when the weather is hot... ZR tires wear out so fast....

anyways what can I do to fix FRONT negative camber??

[Coolwheels00]

Did you get it aligned after you lowered it? How low is it anyway. If you do have negative camber in the front your going to have to get crash bolts or a camber kit.

[RedNOSceli]

best drop/price...tanabe super downs

[chrissi24]

The Eibach Sportlines are a great set of springs. Nice 2 inch drop and great quality. I love them!

[StreetFighter]

I found this in the sponsors page.

Toyota Celica (2000-2002 All) - Progress Technology Sport Springs (Front -1.6", Rear -1.8") for $167.95

Is that a good deal?

[Bud]

Originally posted by StreetFighter


If you have springs on with a kit, can you still go through car washes? I have stock springs with a kit and I can barely make it through the car wash.

You should always hand wash your car if you want it clean.