Why i wanna shoot myself...

[JerkeyPnut]

SO.. i recently got a body kit and brought it to the shop to get painted. my car is spec blue. I get a phone call expecting them to tell me to come pick it up, but instead they are saying come on down to the shop, we need to talk about the color. Turns out there are 8 variances to the 8m6 color. The one i ended up with is a little darker and almost has a purple color to it. the second time we tried it turned out light blue and waay to flakey. So now a week later we are getting a pro tinter to come out and tint the paint so it matches. anyone else have this kinda problem?

[Zero]

How is there a difference in 8m6? It's the same color that the Corolla and IS300 come in right?

That's news to me.

[TRDoug]

Sounds like the shop tried to mix it 8 times and screwed it up each time, hence THEIR 8 variances on the colour. I'd tell them to forget it and take it to a more reputable shop.

[vvtl-iman]

i agree, they tried to go cheap and mix the paint instead of buying the exact paint. Why cant they buy some OEM paint and get it right the first time. GL

[snwman86]

8 differnet vsristiond that bull**** ive got my bumper sprayed 3 times with 8m6 and every time the colour matched

[johnnyGTA]

i agree, they tried to go cheap and mix the paint instead of buying the exact paint. Why cant they buy some OEM paint and get it right the first time. GL

Sorry buddy but most shops mix their own paint. You take the code, pop it into the database, and it tells you the measurements etc needed to make the paint.

[lpphreakx06]

They should be able to check what variance it is with the VIN number.

[FriedChicken]

theres 8 different 8m6? really? everytime i get some 8m6 painted it matches all the time without them having my car

[krostlano04]

when i got the rmm wing painted..the one that i sold you..the shop told me that only one chocie that came up. they warned me that there might be more than one but evidently there wasn't.

[lamboceliGTS]

Sounds like you took it to a bad shop...

[youngxlos]

there is only 1 type of 8m6 that shop sucks!

[6_SPEED_DEMON]

I had similar issues with my liquid soilver where the shade was a tad darker than oem paint. I said screw it & decided to spray a darker & newer toyota silver i went with meteorite metallic off yaris
before
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9273/09frontit9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/09frontit9.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img54/09frontit9.jpg/1/)
now here is the new look
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5624/kami0.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kami0.jpg)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/kami0.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img12/kami0.jpg/1/)

[lamboceliGTS]

It's like me giving them my paint code and having the same thing happen.

No, this same color "absolutley red" is on other cars as well. 1 shade, denoted by the paint code.

[Geist]

i had the same issue, there are 4 variants of Solar Yellow, each one pertaining to factors that would affect color change/fading. the shop had a specialist come out to match and then there was a perfect match.

[Jintei]

omg, Josh. I hope everything works out for you. Keep us updated.

[JonnyB925]

didn't they make a sample before spraying the kit?

[worrplyr]

I had similar issues with my liquid soilver where the shade was a tad darker than oem paint. I said screw it & decided to spray a darker & newer toyota silver i went with meteorite metallic off yaris
before
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9273/09frontit9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/09frontit9.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img54/09frontit9.jpg/1/)
now here is the new look
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5624/kami0.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kami0.jpg)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/kami0.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img12/kami0.jpg/1/)

Wow, that color is Hot. Good choice bro

[SilverRide]

A body shop that can't match paint?
I agree wirth the others that the shop is doing something wrong.

Custom color matching is part of what I do for a living and it is not rocket science.

BTW, one thing that can give trouble is metalics. This is because the "laydown", dispersion or size of the metalic particles can effect the apearance of the paint.

[JerkeyPnut]

omg, Josh. I hope everything works out for you. Keep us updated.

Lol the name's Adam, but thanks.

And to everyone else that thinks the variances are bs they aren't. I've seen the tags they use to try to identify the right color and there are 8 of them. Ones Standard, then they have the rest to adjust for a little lighter, darker, more red, more green, etc.. As someone else said it's to compensate for a car that has faded or changed color over the years so they dont have to repaint their entire car. And people that are saying reputable body shops dont mix their own paint are idiots. Every shop i know of mixes their own paint. Upon further inspection they looked at the car more closely and noticed that it had been repainted in the past (before i owned it). They cleaned off the rear driver fender really well and took this special light to the paint and you could see where a shop repaired the fender before. Also, they were saying it was due to material difference. i.e paint on metal would look different than paint on fiberglass, but i thought that was retarded since i've seen a million different material kits match before.. But they called me today and said the color the tinter came up with is perfect and the bumpers now match the body. I'm heading down to the shop to look at it in about an hour so when i get it home i'll snap some pix and post em up.

[youngxlos]

i hope they don't charger you extra for having the tinter come. i really think they are just trying to milk you for more money.
but if they don't charge you extra, then you got your self a pretty good paint shop i guess.

[xantonin]

Wow half of you are really retarded.

If anyone here expects two blue colors to be the same from two different places, you need help.

There's a TON of factors involved in painting a car. A good auto body shop will mix their paint to match as CLOSE as possible, and then BLEND the rest of the panels to gradually match in, making it virtually impossible to detect.

Paint on your car is also exposed to the sun, and the rest of the environment, which WILL have an impact on the color over time. Even if you used the exact same paint, if enough time has passed it won't match perfectly.

Factory paint could also be slightly different than touch up paint, and usually is often.

In the end, the body shop is also a bunch of newbs. They should know how to match paint correctly. There's more than 8 shades of 8M6, there can be a million variations, how many the human eye can see though is another story. Your body shop is unfortunately using restrictive software that is only capable of measuring 8 differences and I think it's pathetic they had to ask you.

I dropped off my car this monday to have the hood and front bumper repainted. They didn't even ask me what color it was. This is a highly reputable body shop that often does Corvettes and other expensive cars.

You get what you pay for.

[ibmike150]

i had my spec blue car painted and its just fine cant even tell, but the oem touchup paint is slightly lighter. jsut go to a good body shop or even toyota to get it painted and theyll do it right the 1st time

[JerkeyPnut]

Wow half of you are really retarded.

If anyone here expects two blue colors to be the same from two different places, you need help.

There's a TON of factors involved in painting a car. A good auto body shop will mix their paint to match as CLOSE as possible, and then BLEND the rest of the panels to gradually match in, making it virtually impossible to detect.

Paint on your car is also exposed to the sun, and the rest of the environment, which WILL have an impact on the color over time. Even if you used the exact same paint, if enough time has passed it won't match perfectly.

Factory paint could also be slightly different than touch up paint, and usually is often.

In the end, the body shop is also a bunch of newbs. They should know how to match paint correctly. There's more than 8 shades of 8M6, there can be a million variations, how many the human eye can see though is another story. Your body shop is unfortunately using restrictive software that is only capable of measuring 8 differences and I think it's pathetic they had to ask you.

I dropped off my car this monday to have the hood and front bumper repainted. They didn't even ask me what color it was. This is a highly reputable body shop that often does Corvettes and other expensive cars.

You get what you pay for.

Your post started out ok and then just fell off the face of the earth. The body shop has contracts with all sorts of high end cars such as Audi, Mercedes, Lexus, you name it they have done it. They even have pictures of them painting lambos and ferraris. They do not use computer software to find variances. There are (from the factory) 8 variances of 8m6. You are right when you say that they do their best to find the best one. In this case they were wrong. They did however call in a tinter that matched the paint perfectly. And theres no way i would let them charge me extra money when its their fault for not getting it right the first time. The only thing that sucked was the hassle of bringing it to the shop hundreds of times and going without a car for days on end. But its all over now and i'm a happy customer. Its kinda getting dark so pix wont be too good but i'll snap some anyway.

[JerkeyPnut]

yeah i took pics and they all came out way to dark so i'll just wait unti tomorrow

[xantonin]

Yeah but high end cars doesn't always mean much.

There's a place in Salt Lake City called "Car Concepts" but I swear they're ****ty. They couldn't get the installation of my car alarm right several times, I gave up with them and I've moved to UT since.

On their website they've a ton of pictures of Ferrari's, Porsches, Lambos, etc... Very low quality work though.

But that aside, if you like the work they did that's all the matters. I just don't understand why Toyota would make 8 variations of one color, it makes 0 sense to me and I don't believe it. I'm sure its possible to determine 8 and more alterations in colors of the same specification due to environmental factors and mixing measurements, but I highly doubt its a standard.

Pardon if I sound biased but I just don't like your body shop based on how they treated you and how much work you had to go through for something that is their responsibility. Something doesn't seem right.

[JerkeyPnut]

well a lot of it was the fact that the guy i had connection with to the body shop is my best friend's step dad. I have worked for him in the past (not like hired and on the payroll, but i helped him drive cars around and stuff) so he gave me a pretty good deal on the work. Being that he was giving me a discount it almost seemed like it made my car last priority which was really annoying. The shop is very good and i would trust them over anyone to do any kind of painting. I have seen a lot of the stuff they have done and its nothing short of perfection. I just dont know why my car ended up being such a pain to get the color to match. I see what you're saying tho and if i didnt know any better and took it to some random shop and they said the color wont match i would be very skeptical as to the quality of work they're capable of producing. but the bumpers are all flawless now and as i said i'm a happy customer. :) I'll post up pix tomorrow and i would appreciate if you guys would give any critisism (good or bad).

[xantonin]

Sounds good man

Can't wait to see those pics. Try to get the light in many angles.

Also night shots are interesting too since the paint looks different sometimes

[JerkeyPnut]

here we go. Let me know what ya think!

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=300464&referrerid=32517

[00toyogts]

this is true spectra mica blue or 8M6 is one of the hardest if not the hardest paints to match, I had my hood painted 3 times and it still doesn't 100% match the rest of the car but you can't tell unless you get REAL close to it. but yea, i guess the best color celicas are the hardest to get painted. 8M6 FTW!

[xantonin]

I just talked to the guy who painted my car. I watched him pull up the colors from his computer and mix the colors from scratch. It was pretty sweet. He gave me a bottle of touch up paint.

We've got some crazy colors in our paint.

And yes, there are several variations of 8M6, but I stand corrected that you shouldn't have been involved. My shop did everything for me and matched it fine.