AprCelica

[KageRyu7]

I paid $875 for a A/t to M/t conversion parts on January 11th and another $40 for a rear hatch cover and have still recieved nothing.

He said he shipped it out withing a week but never gave me a tracking number. After he finally gave me the tracking number it did not work. I called the building he said he shipped from and they said the tracking number didn't even match their building code. They looked into the system told me that he did not ship anything to me.

I confronted him about this and he said he didn't know what happened so he would file an insurance claim with ups and send me out another batch of parts about two weeks ago.

Since then I've made numerous attempts to contact him through numerous pms, posting in his threads, and twice through texting his phone.

I'm completely fed up with this and at this point just want my money back. I love how he made a thread complaining about worryplyr's service but his is no better.:marky:

[lamboceliGTS]

I find it odd how you still have no tracking number.

[boothten]

:thumbdown on his part, I hope this gets settled

[celicajonz]

wow...sucks :thumbdown

hope it gets resolved soon

[Mido]

Lol Apr, tsk tsk tsk, I'd like to see how you're going to handle a deal of that ammount with a "I don't know"

[Littleman54]

Hopefully, this gets resolved, too many bad deals or lack of communication happening lately in this part of the forum.

[lamboceliGTS]

^ I was thinking the same thing.

[blitzceli]

I find it funny that the people commenting on all these threads have ****ty business skills themselves. I wont call anyone out b/c they know who they are...lol

[NHCeli00]

This happened to me ONCE before where I paid for something and it never shipped... I found out where the dude lived and sent him a link of how much the airplane ticket would cost me to fly out to kick his teeth in...surprisingly enough after I did that and also included the local police # to where he lived... the parts got shipped out. Let's just say... a little Irish Temper....goes a long way :D

[Canon20]

I paid $875 for a A/t to M/t conversion parts on January 11th and another $40 for a rear hatch cover and have still recieved nothing.

He said he shipped it out withing a week but never gave me a tracking number. After he finally gave me the tracking number it did not work. I called the building he said he shipped from and they said the tracking number didn't even match their building code. They looked into the system told me that he did not ship anything to me.

I confronted him about this and he said he didn't know what happened so he would file an insurance claim with ups and send me out another batch of parts about two weeks ago.

Since then I've made numerous attempts to contact him through numerous pms, posting in his threads, and twice through texting his phone.

I'm completely fed up with this and at this point just want my money back. I love how he made a thread complaining about worryplyr's service but his is no better.:marky:

That's pretty interesting, maybe something got caught up with the shipping but still doesn't justify why you haven't got at least a tracking number.. I don't think he notices this thread, how many times have you tried to contact him through pm?

Last Activity: Today 12:23 AM

[lamboceliGTS]

He will notice the thread because he made one agains wyporler or whatever his s/n is.

[Mido]

Lol, the 2 members I always expect to post in these threads are Lambo and canon, nc.org police/investigators, lol.

OP, GL.

[celicajonz]

didnt he get deployed for service?

[ikhaffaji]

And yet another twist to our tale. :AF: Did you do the transaction via paypal? If so, just file a claim and your money will be reversed back into your account.

[Geist]

Did you do the transaction via paypal? If so, just file a claim and your money will be reversed back into your account.

x2, paypal will get you your money back, just don't wait past the allotted time

[mrluilou]

wasn't he moving to the east coast?

[KageRyu7]

idk paypal wont let me file a claim... i made it as "payment for" but it's still saying it wasnt under the right setting.

As for apr I've pm'd him atleast 10times in the last three weeks, twice while he was on. I posted in his sale forum and in his worryplyr forum. And I texted him a few times with no response.

[Mido]

Curious on what you bought exactly for 875$

[KageRyu7]

more or less everything to convert an automatic gts to a manual... minus tranny, clutch, flywheel, pressure plate
here's the list

1) Master clutch assembly
2) Release clutch assembly
3) Ground cables
4) Clutch and brake pedals
5) Clutch switch
6) Shift linkage
7) Shift knob w/ manny shift console cover(00-02)
8) Ecu(2001)
9) Motormounts: all
10)Manny gauge cluster
11)Clutch/break fluid reservoir
12)Half shaft bracket (the bracket that holds the axle on the bottom of the motor?)
13)Engine wiring harness! the one that routes from the ecu, through the fuses and firewall!
14)Throw out bearing
15)axles or axle retainers?
16)Trunk cover 03+.(this was a seperate $40)

Btw that's how much I paid including the paypal fee. I think he got $850 and $25, but still not much difference.

[boothten]

more or less everything to convert an automatic gts to a manual... minus tranny, clutch, flywheel, pressure plate
here's the list
So, you're telling me you, in essence, paid for a tranny swap, but what he sold you didn't come with a tranny?
:confused:

[Speck102]

So, you're telling me you, in essence, paid for a tranny swap, but what he sold you didn't come with a tranny?
:confused:

For that price, would you expect it to? For the items listed, the price seems reasonable to me.

I too find it interesting that APR would ignore messages from the buyer who paid him almost $1k after making such a big stink about a mere (in comparison) $150 or whatever he paid worrply. I can understand not being able to do anything until UPS gets back to you, but at least keep your buyer up to date on what's going on. Even if he contacts you everyday, one reply per day won't kill you. Just type out; "I still have not heard form the shipping company, trying to get things worked out for you". I know how it can be when someone has your cash and just ignores you. Really upsetting. Heck, you know how it feels too.

[KageRyu7]

Yes, EVERYTHING was shipped out BEFORE the 22... Its fine. I have to make another insurance shipping claim with the same shipper for broken tabs on headlamps. Ill send you out another, on me. Ill do what it takes to get these to you. Sorry for the inconvenience.
This is what he pm'd me a week or two ago said that he had another set of the parts I ordered and that he would send me another set out.

[boothten]

For that price, would you expect it to? For the items listed, the price seems reasonable to me.
Sorry, I didn't know. I just figured that since he was advertising it as an auto-to-manual swap, it would have come with a tranny
Also, I wouldn't have any idea how much it typically costs before install...
:hide:

[KageRyu7]

Sorry, I didn't know. I just figured that since he was advertising it as an auto-to-manual swap, it would have come with a tranny
Also, I wouldn't have any idea how much it typically costs before install...
:hide:
No your right, his tranny swap package comes with a tranny and is alot more expensive.

What I got from him was a custom order because that's all I needed.

[KageRyu7]

aprcelica...Last Activity: 02-18-2010 11:23 PM

[Mido]

:s ....

[Speck102]

Sorry, I didn't know. I just figured that since he was advertising it as an auto-to-manual swap, it would have come with a tranny
Also, I wouldn't have any idea how much it typically costs before install...
:hide:

No need to hide behind the couch. Just informing you that his price was not out there. I sell the swap parts for around the same. With tranny I charge about $1,500-1,800 depending on 5 or 6 speed tranny.

[fabez14]

frank, reply dude

[KageRyu7]

Does anyone know how old Frank is or his location in Cali? Lakeside, Ca maybe?

[Mido]

I'm sure people who have sold stuff to him have the shipping adress, I might

[KageRyu7]

Yesterday, going online I found a number that ended up being his dads (oops) and called. His dad took my information and said he'd have him call me and of course I've recieved nothing and...

aprcelica Last Activity: Today 12:48 PM

so he is blatantly ignoring me... so I guess I'm just ****ed out of basically a grand.

[mrluilou]

just keep calling his dad's number :shrugs:
any luck w/ paypal claim?

[KageRyu7]

I called paypal a few times and they refuse to do anything saying It was not a payment for good(which i'm 99% sure it was) but they recommended I talk to my bank to see if anything can be done there. I'm gonna go to my bank monday or tuesday.

As of right now I think I'm going to see how much money I can scrounge together and try to get another set of parts. Converting my celly is something I REALLY want to do so if anyone else can offer me those parts send me a pm or something and I'll see if I can afford it.

[Achysklic]

If it was me I dont care how much it took I would show up on his door and get 900 worth of satisfaction from his a$$.

[ikhaffaji]

CALL THE BANK IMMEDIATELY AND CANCEL THAT CHARGE! Or else, you stand a chance of not getting that money back....

[KageRyu7]

If it was me I don't care how much it took I would show up on his door and get 900 worth of satisfaction from his a$$.

well I know his address and would do that...but he's in cali and I'm in Maryland...kinda far way to go for that :marky:...someone wanna hook me up with a ticket? lol

[ateens4]

wyporler

lol, i know its worryplr but i pronounce it "worryply"

[lamboceliGTS]

It's awesome a seller can not ship products, then come on and avoid a thread calling him out.

[Mido]

I think I'm going to see how much money I can scrounge together and try to get another set of parts. Converting my celly is something I REALLY want to do so if anyone else can offer me those parts send me a pm or something and I'll see if I can afford it.
pm me, i can get you all the parts you need.

tsk tsk tsk APR

[ikhaffaji]

The guy was really shady. Wanted me to buy his 1zz with a blown headgasket with 100k miles for $800 or so. I ended up buying a 1zz with 29k miles in perfect shape for 100 less than that :ugh:

[Mido]

im sure it's not a money issue for him see'ing that under his name says " 50k invested " ...

[KageRyu7]

wonder whos 50k it was >.>

[KageRyu7]

Last Activity: Today 03:04 AM

Really Frank? Can't even make something up to save face? This is just sad...

[Canon20]

Very unprofessional.

This is what I don't understand aprcelica. You complained in worrplyr (http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=311412)'s thread about:

Not responding to private messages
Taking a month+ to ship product
Not keeping you informed
Still having no product
No tracking number
Refund


Where is your sympathy!? Where is the customer care!? aprcelica!?!? You know exactly how this feels, so why would you do it yourself? You were just facing a similar issue!!!!!

I don't get how some people can sleep at night, like I really don't. Do people really have no conscience or self morals? No I mean really. You were exceptionally quick to come online to complain about someone else doing exactly what your doing right now! You came online just about every day to post in that thread too and now you are doing just that! It's not only extremely unprofessional but it discuss me and is absolutely mind boggling. Your sale threads are temporarily locked until this gets resolved. Not to mention how you (aprcelica) are logging in almost every day but ignoring private messages!! I know, he knows, they know, she knows and YOU know that you are getting the private messages. It's a completely different story when it actually involves you and your own money isn't it?, but to turn the other side of the leaf when it's you that owe someone a product or their hard earned cash, people start scratching there heads.

Honestly KageRyu7 I'll agree, at this point I wouldn't even want the product anymore and will just take the refund.

[donteatbugs]

wow, i just saw this and im having a little problem from aprcelica too. i bought some tein ss-p from him in january. supposedly mint with 12k miles. it took them a month to get here and when they did one of them was damaged like the car it was on was in a wreck. he denied knowing about it and said he would send me the rebuilt set he was selling without the gold p/u mounts though. (he wanted to swap for the green ones on his car) i didnt have a problem with that except its taking forever for me to get my ss-p. he has responded to my pms but its still kind of shady on his part. he also is reselling the ones i bought and having me ship them to the guy whenever payment clears. i just want my ss-p on my damn car!

here is my pms to him

Something like that... I was waiting for the payee to send payment for the ones you have prior to having you ship them out, so you weren't stuck in the middle :wiggle: It's already too complicated as is and I want to simplify it. I received a payment pending notification from PayPal and everything should go through by tomorrow. Ill send the addy, and ship yours out ASAP. Ill keep you updated, and hey.... thanks for the patience. :o:
























Sorry again.

hey, just checking to see whats going on. are you still waiting to send the rebuilt ones out til you get the super strut ss-p? just let me know something.

Um, actually I would ask that you dont. Those are going elsewhere now.

if the mounts are the same ill just keep the ones on the ss-p that are damaged and send just the strut and springs back and you can do the same. i have no problem doing this. i do all the work on my cars anyway.

Ive ordered my Super Strut SS-P... may not arrive until a month or so, so what I can do to get these to you ASAP is remove the Gold P/U and install stock mounts, then ship the Greens out later.

any word yet? i kinda want to be able to put these on before the end of febuary.


Just send them back. Hold on to it for confirmation tomorrow, and I recommend using Greyhound (if one is nearbay) as they are cheaper. I do apologize for any inconvenience. and to clarify, so you didnt miss it, the set I have currently has Gold Tops and I would like to swap those out for the Green tops (from the new set Im buying). Wanted to make sure thats ok with you. LMK, thanks.

ok, so i send them back to you and send you 50 or do i just send them back? whats your address?

Almost forgot... there is a difference of $50, but I know you would have to ship them back, so if you covered the shipping back, then no worries. It'll be even, and Ill cover shipping of these to you.

hey, i got the tein ssp in today and they looked good except for the front right one. it looks like the car was in a wreck and it bent it. the spindle mount and the swaybar mount are bent pretty good. and there is a gash on the lower body. this was not described in the posting. these cant be installed like this because the alignment will be way off. here are pictures as soon as i unpacked them.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i220/donteatbugs/for%20sale/02-03-10_182258.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i220/donteatbugs/for%20sale/02-03-10_182053.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i220/donteatbugs/for%20sale/02-03-10_182025.jpg


I believe if youre not home, or anyone to sign it; they will leave a pick up notice for you to sign or to pick up at their hub. and youre welcome. Just trying to follow through on my end. Thank you for being patient.

thanks for the tracking, i wont be home to sign for it wednesday but they should leave it thursday for me.

New Tracking number is UPS#1Z67WE30A807618316. Should be to your place by WED. Sent Signature confirmation required.

just wondering if you sent the coilovers out yet and if you have a tracking number for it?

These are going out to you snail mail, and when I get the tracking#, Ill send it to you; but wanted to let you know that I am going to sell another set (this one with gold P/U) and wanted to keep it clear that Im not trying to resell your set. Thanks for understanding.

i did, here it is again

ben barrett
164 pine st
monroeville, al 36460

phone-251 714 5669

Uhm, did you ever get me your address, number, name n stuff so I can finish scheduling your shipment?

hey, when are you gonna ship out the tein ss-p. not trying to rush you, just wondering.

I need your address, phone number n such... When you gift, it doesnt provide this info, only your name... Thanks!

paypal sent

Very much so. I didnt even know that, thank you. DRGNRCR@HOTMAIL.COM no need for caps, I did it so I could see it :gap:

about 20k KM (I have a center TRD Tach that only tells me in KM). There are two others interested in this, so first to pay?

drgrncr@hotmail.com

Thanks

Ill post pics

says that this isnt a registered paypal address. typo maybe?

[wel_565]

:ugh:

[KageRyu7]

Thank you Cannon!

And I doubt this will do anything but...

$200 to anyone who can convince/force aprcelica to refund my money. Money will be paid after his refund reaches my account.

[WakeRider]

$200 to anyone who can convince/force aprcelica to refund my money. Money will be paid after his refund reaches my account.
Post that in the cali section and you may get some takers....

[KageRyu7]

Post that in the cali section and you may get some takers....
Just did it! Thanks for the suggestion.

[celicajonz]

wow....what a douche

and to think he went to one of our meets last year :faint:

[ikhaffaji]

:ban:

[7th Gen]

going on two pages and he hasnt posted once on this topic, wft man. just set things straight.

[Mido]

For all the californians, here is you're chance to make a quick $200 and helping a member who has been scammed.

[v3bahumut]

Situation sucks, for the OP and for you bugs....hope you guys get your items or money and everything gets settled.

[Achysklic]

shoot for 200 I'll catch a redeye out just so I can have some with with a low life.

[mrluilou]

Thank you Cannon!

And I doubt this will do anything but...

$200 to anyone who can convince/force aprcelica to refund my money. Money will be paid after his refund reaches my account.

force? you better send it as bail money instead :chuckles:

[Littleman54]

I agree with banning him, he logged in today and no reply to this thread. Hope this get's settled, i don't like this type of business.

[donteatbugs]

dont ban him, pm is the only way i have to talk to him!

[KageRyu7]

i dont nessarily think he should be banned...maybe just blocked from the buy/sell forums o.o

[fabez14]

aprcelica(aka frank)
i can not believe you would pull some shady sh*t like this, after all that crap that had happened with us, all kinds of people were vouging for you saying you were honest(bull sh*t)that transaction was fixed and is in the past now. But just recently you screwed me again, and sent me broken parts.
dude you need to pay this guy his d*mn money

[jordan71]

weird he seemed like a real good guy. surely someone on here knows this guy personally???

[wel_565]

aprcelica(aka frank)
i can not believe you would pull some shady sh*t like this, after all that crap that had happened with us, all kinds of people were vouging for you saying you were honest(bull sh*t)that transaction was fixed and is in the past now. But just recently you screwed me again, and sent me broken parts.
dude you need to pay this guy his d*mn money

why are you so shocked? lol things happen. :shrugs:

[JameX]

Is that the dude that was selling a turbokit? I hope nobody got ****ed on that..

[lamboceliGTS]

^ Yea thats him.

I posted for people not to buy from him in his turbo kit thread.

[bt216]

he seemed like a real good guy

HA! I called it. I never like that guy.

[fabez14]

this guy is a liar
i should have went with my gut feeling, but instead i ignored it and went through with another transaction with this guy
lets just say both ended very unpleasantly on my side

[jordan71]

this guy is a liar
i should have went with my gut feeling, but instead i ignored it and went through with another transaction with this guy
lets just say both ended very unpleasantly on my side

why dont u pay him a visit?

[Kangaruu]

He's got a gun and is military trained...(I think)

[fabez14]

i would rather not whats done is done(i didnt lose much money, but thats not the issue), just saying he is not very honest

[wel_565]

I've had 2 transactions with him but like I said...I never knew him knew him... :shrugs:

[epicwolf]

I wish you get your money back. I need to rant for a little bit so please bare with me.



I do not understand why people do this! How can somebody take money from a person and do not follow through with what they are supposed to do? Its amazing to me seeing how society is now a days with so many bullshiet shady mother fakers in this world. Everytime I see another name popping up in this section from victims that being screwed just pisses me off! Is it so hard to do a simple smooth transaction now a days?! You sell a product, you give the buyer your contact and info, you keep in contact with the buyer always!! You do whatever it take to make your buyer happy because you have their money!! Buyer recieved item and your recieved the money. Its done. Thats it! How hard can that be?!! There is no excused of not following through. I don't care if you have "family issue" or somebody died in your family or your life becomes sh*tty. If you take somebody's money, you need to go through with it no matter what. If you lost their product eaither because of some shipping issue, you need to do whatever it take to refund their money. Always always always keep in contact and communication with a person! I dont understand how people like these don't go to jail for it! I have no pitty for people like this. I hope kharma comes back to them ten fold and destroyed their life. I don't give a sh*t if they got cancer and about to die in couple of months and unable to continue with the transaction. They took somebody's money and they need to do whatever it take to eaither refund or give the buyer what they want. I am calling out all of the shady mo fos on this forums from the past, the present and the future. I wish bad things happen to all you mo fos!! I am sick and tired of seeing people getting screwed because of bullshiet like this!!

[lamboceliGTS]

Last Activity: Today 05:33 PM

Seriously?

[jr_castillo847]

Wow he has the nerve to log in and not respond at all what a jerk.

[Jovy11]

hes online right now. hmmm...

[Jovy11]

hes online right now.

[KageRyu7]

He finally pm'd me...
I haven't heard anything of whether this was received or not, and I am getting ready for my trip. In case you haven't received the info, here it is again. I checked it myself, it is already en route. They have your number and will call you for pick-up like you asked. Shipped with Greyhound to Silver Spring Station.

Tracking# GLI **********(I edited this out)
www.shipgreyhound.com
619-515-1102 ask for shipping department

The tracking number doesn't work online, but the same thing happened when I shipped something to another member. I'll call greyhound later today and have this verified. Hopefully this is me actually getting my parts :gap:

[Mido]

lol, he should be banned after his issues are settled

[NV_THIS_CELICA]

He finally pm'd me...


The tracking number doesn't work online, but the same thing happened when I shipped something to another member. I'll call greyhound later today and have this verified. Hopefully this is me actually getting my parts :gap:

yea greyhound tracking numbers never work :bang: hopefully its on the way to you..aprcelica recently sent me a apexi exhaust via greyhound and when i called them with the tracking number they gave me all the info...exhaust came in great condition..hopefully your parts get to you..good luck

[mnwolftrack]

For what it's worth, greyhound's tracking #'s don't work on their website unless a shipper actually used the greyhound website to generate the tracking # in the first place. Calling the Greyhound office in question will give you more details, such as if it's a valid #.

[lamboceliGTS]

Give us an update.

[wel_565]

I wish you get your money back. I need to rant for a little bit so please bare with me.



I do not understand why people do this! How can somebody take money from a person and do not follow through with what they are supposed to do? Its amazing to me seeing how society is now a days with so many bullshiet shady mother fakers in this world. Everytime I see another name popping up in this section from victims that being screwed just pisses me off! Is it so hard to do a simple smooth transaction now a days?! You sell a product, you give the buyer your contact and info, you keep in contact with the buyer always!! You do whatever it take to make your buyer happy because you have their money!! Buyer recieved item and your recieved the money. Its done. Thats it! How hard can that be?!! There is no excused of not following through. I don't care if you have "family issue" or somebody died in your family or your life becomes sh*tty. If you take somebody's money, you need to go through with it no matter what. If you lost their product eaither because of some shipping issue, you need to do whatever it take to refund their money. Always always always keep in contact and communication with a person! I dont understand how people like these don't go to jail for it! I have no pitty for people like this. I hope kharma comes back to them ten fold and destroyed their life. I don't give a sh*t if they got cancer and about to die in couple of months and unable to continue with the transaction. They took somebody's money and they need to do whatever it take to eaither refund or give the buyer what they want. I am calling out all of the shady mo fos on this forums from the past, the present and the future. I wish bad things happen to all you mo fos!! I am sick and tired of seeing people getting screwed because of bullshiet like this!!


I'm going to sell you something broken. and never return your PM's calls or texts....I will more than likely spend your money on cocaine and strippers.

[donteatbugs]

i got a pm today as well, he said some guy named philip is shipping out my new coilovers and gave me the address to send the old ones to a guy that bought them. im not gonna ship the ones i have out till i see mine are on the way though.

[mrluilou]

see what happens when you get the cheapest shipping method :faint:

[KageRyu7]

One more Pm...
Oh, I did forget to mention. My cell is temporarily suspended pending my trip abroad, however I have left several people aware of pending transactions and have access to my accounts for just this. Main point of contact is Philip Warden. I haven't had much time to check anything lately because of training and packing, but should anything arise you can reply here or email and he will do what he can, or pass it along to my Power of Attorney for correction. Just because I may be gone, doesn't mean someone won't be here anyways to handle anything.

Well if my parts get here and are all correct I'm willing to forgive. I just wish he didn't ship grey hound...this thing could take years to get here :marky:

Mido ygpm

[mrluilou]

couldn't you pay extra to get it shipped through someone else?

[KageRyu7]

well according to him the first time he shipped ups, the package disappeared and he had to file a shipping claim or w/e. Due to complete lack of contact I had no idea he was going to ship through grey hound or I would have opted to have it shipped fedex or something.

[lamboceliGTS]

Greyhound is the cheapest and most inefficient shipping method, besides throwing your stuff down the stairs.

[jordan71]

Greyhound is the cheapest and most inefficient shipping method, besides throwing your stuff down the stairs.

lol'd ^^^

Im glad everything is clearing up or so it seems!!!:wiggle:

[2KGTrd]

Greyhound is the cheapest and most inefficient shipping method, besides throwing your stuff down the stairs.

I had a bumper shipped Greyhound, not the greatest service but it got here quick, and the bumper was in one piece...
Taking the ducktape off wasn't pleasant but goo-gone can get rud of anything.

[KageRyu7]

lol 2k I sent jordan71 a tranny...it took SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long...I really thought it got lost in the system

[Speck102]

Greyhound is the cheapest and most inefficient shipping method, besides throwing your stuff down the stairs.

I have had nothing but excellent experience shipping with Greyhound. The item usually gets there in a week or less, and arrives in excellent condition (because I package it properly. I have been on the receiving end of crappy packaging jobs in the past, however the items STILL arrived undamaged, but the packaging was falling apart). UPS, USPS, and FedEx will beat the ever living crap out of your packages if you send them ground mail, 10x worse than Greyhound. If you ship airmail, you may have better luck, but if you ship say a bumper via airmail through FedEx or UPS, you will pay $500+ just for shipping.

[KageRyu7]

I have had nothing but excellent experience shipping with Greyhound. The item usually gets there in a week or less, and arrives in excellent condition (because I package it properly. I have been on the receiving end of crappy packaging jobs in the past, however the items STILL arrived undamaged, but the packaging was falling apart). UPS, USPS, and FedEx will beat the ever living crap out of your packages if you send them ground mail, 10x worse than Greyhound. If you ship airmail, you may have better luck, but if you ship say a bumper via airmail through FedEx or UPS, you will pay $500+ just for shipping.
Yeah...I work at ups and I can tell you first hand...don't ship anything fragile...I don't care if you mark it fragile it wont make a difference. Pack it very tight. Use TWO boxes...and maybe it will get there...

and yeah...ground,3day,2day,1day air, Early Am. It's all the same, it's just less time in the system to get beat up.

[donteatbugs]

I got an email from the guy handling aprcelica's stuff while hes gone. really nice guy so far and seems to want to get me all my parts. i even got a number to call him at so everything looks very promising right now. Its only been 7 weeks so far.

[Zero]

Greyhoud is great! The reason why items would be less damaged is that they aren't transported from carrier to carrier. One bus, one destination - or so I was told.
Shipped a front bumper from San Diego to Philly and it got there in about 3 days with no damage.

[yodaddyguido]

Greyhound is the cheapest and most inefficient shipping method, besides throwing your stuff down the stairs.

only thing ive had shipped to me via greyhound arrived in two pieces... originally one. lol im scared of it now. customer service was a joke when i tried to follow up on the claim, and it eventually disappeared.

[02celica]

apr is a dick and should be banned.

[KageRyu7]

Its only been 7 weeks so far.

LOL!!!

[mnwolftrack]

Greyhound most DEFINITELY transfers items from bus to bus. As like airplanes, they do not have one bus for every possible combination of to/from. They have to have transfers. Just coming about 500 miles, my recent Greyhound shipment had at least one transfer. The idiots in Minneapolis figured it would be a great idea to remove ALL the packaging from my item and ship it bare because it "fit better" in their compartments.

With a shipment before that, most of the packaging had fallen off the item, and it looked like they dragged it behind the bus for about a block (had to file a claim on that one). Heck, I when I stopped by to pick this package up in the first place, it was a laundromat and the person at the counter had no clue they were also a bus terminal.... I had to come back the next day and speak to the manager..... Idiots....

[mrluilou]

how come you guys don't give him a bad trader rating? ryu hasn't left him one unless he's happy w/ how things turned out

[KageRyu7]

I haven't left a trader rating because things aren't settled completely... as I said he now says he sent me my parts and greyhound says he sent three boxes.

If I get my parts and everything checks out he'll get a neutral, if not a bad.

[Mido]

So Mr. Frank, AKA ( APRCELICA -- ) You post on Worryplyrs thread, an not yet posted on here?

Or lemme guess, didn't see this thread yet?

[lamboceliGTS]

He has seen it.

I left a link in the thread he actually replied in.

Such a shady character.

[KageRyu7]

I hate people that try to avoid their problems...like it's just gonna go away.

Anyway slight update-ish? Called greyhound and they have two of the tree boxes so hopefully the last one should be here by tomorrow.

[Mido]

He should be banned after this is settled

[lamboceliGTS]

I agree. No matter if and when he actually gets his packages.

That is no way to conduct business.

[Canon20]

I think this is just absolutely ridiculous, I really do. I still stand by my first post #44. He responded to his own thread about a member, but completely ignoring a members post asking about his products he purchased and why haven't they been shipped but aprcelica only quoted a couple posts above the guys complaint and replied. His shady business practices and deceitful tactics will end him quick! For those of you who purchased from aprcelica once you have received your item I would strike this user with a negative feedback. Nobody should have to put up with crap like this. Business is easy; seller lists product with details, buyer pays, seller ships, buyer received package as described, seller is happy, buyer is happy its as simple as that. And he has "50K invested"....ok

[ikhaffaji]

I think this is just absolutely ridiculous, I really do. I still stand by my first post #44. He responded to his own thread about a member, but completely ignoring a members post asking about his products he purchased and why haven't they been shipped but aprcelica only quoted a couple posts above the guys complaint and replied. His shady business practices and deceitful tactics will end him quick! For those of you who purchased from aprcelica once you have received your item I would strike this user with a negative feedback. Nobody should have to put up with crap like this. Business is easy; seller lists product with details, buyer pays, seller ships, buyer received package as described, seller is happy, buyer is happy its as simple as that. And he has "50K invested"....ok

+1

[donteatbugs]

yep, supposedly frank is back and philip isnt doing anymore. philip was great to deal with. he took my struts off and sent me pictures of everthing and mentioned to damages done to them. now hes letting frank hadle it and i havent heard **** about when im getting anything. plus the girl that bought the bent ones i had is lace. ive been talking to her and fixed them the best i could and am holding them til i get mine. she is having to wait just like me now because i dont wanna be stuck with nothing. 8 weeks and counting.

[aprcelica]

yep, supposedly frank is back and philip isnt doing anymore. philip was great to deal with. he took my struts off and sent me pictures of everthing and mentioned to damages done to them. now hes letting frank hadle it and i havent heard **** about when im getting anything. plus the girl that bought the bent ones i had is lace. ive been talking to her and fixed them the best i could and am holding them til i get mine. she is having to wait just like me now because i dont wanna be stuck with nothing. 8 weeks and counting.

:ugh: Waiting for you to respond to my emails and PMs... Package is ready to be shipped, and there is no damage to the struts... the pics he sent you are of the Gold P/U that you said I could keep... and I'm not shipping Person B's items to Person A's address without BOTH consenting to whatever Person A does to repackage, with/out components intended for Person A, that I can't possibly be held responsible for them. Out of my hands, and this is waiting for you.

Secondly, prior to purchase, you said you were willing to wait... The set you have now is the set you purchased, therefor you received them in ~2 weeks. I have been having issues with The UPS Store about packages I've shipped;

TEAMXCELI: tracking number didn't validate unil AFTER he received the packages
FABEZ14: Insurance claim posted as his package was delivered damaged
KAGERYU7: Package never showed
paid for out of pocket and waiting for pick-up; requested a SIG. Delivery/Pick-up specific instructions. My claim is still pending with The UPS Store.
DDRAGON: Package never showed
paid for out of pocket and received through alternate shipper
VTJKYCHAN: Don't know if this has or hasn't arrived... still waiting for confirmation from him.
DONTEATBUGS: Supposedly something was damaged. Items weren't damage when I posted pics and I can't verify whether someone else caused it or the shipper. My loss.

[aprcelica]

I think this is just absolutely ridiculous, I really do. I still stand by my first post #44. He responded to his own thread about a member, but completely ignoring a members post asking about his products he purchased and why haven't they been shipped but aprcelica only quoted a couple posts above the guys complaint and replied. His shady business practices and deceitful tactics will end him quick! For those of you who purchased from aprcelica once you have received your item I would strike this user with a negative feedback. Nobody should have to put up with crap like this. Business is easy; seller lists product with details, buyer pays, seller ships, buyer received package as described, seller is happy, buyer is happy its as simple as that. And he has "50K invested"....ok

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=311412&page=4

ALL items shipped (except LACE's because two people want them to be shipped to an UNVERIFIED address; not her own). I just found out about this. No one told me, thank you. She just paid for hers, too. I can't be held responsible for something that doesn't arrive to her.

[aprcelica]

So Mr. Frank, AKA ( APRCELICA -- ) You post on Worryplyrs thread, an not yet posted on here?

Or lemme guess, didn't see this thread yet?

He should be banned after this is settled

Yeah, and you too; after waiting eight weeks for some tweeters that you sent to someone else, you should too. Oh, and I haven't left feedback for you either, so negative then since shipping is your responsibility.

KAGERYU7 items
Tracking# GLI 3056609831
www.shipgreyhound.com
619-515-1102 ask for shipping department

LACE
waiting for ok from DONTEATBUGS. If something of hers goes missing, its his deal. I have already sent pics and a contents list to both parties.

Items have arrived. Once out of anyones hands, its the shippers responsibility (thats why we pay for insurance0 and the buyer to pick them up.

[aprcelica]

He has seen it.

I left a link in the thread he actually replied in.

Such a shady character.

Yep... found it. Thank you~ish.

I hate people that try to avoid their problems...like it's just gonna go away.

Anyway slight update-ish? Called greyhound and they have two of the tree boxes so hopefully the last one should be here by tomorrow.

What "problem am I avoiding"? I paid out of pocket, still waiting for UPS to reimburse me for the second set I sent you.

[aprcelica]

lol 2k I sent jordan71 a tranny...it took SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long...I really thought it got lost in the system

Its ok for you to send something that took long, but no one else?!?

This I just found, so wouldn't have seen it while I was gone and no one left me a clue or anything. Finding the link, now I can save it like I do others. I also made others aware exactly where I was going and when I was leaving prior to sales.

[Mido]

Communication is the key if you still have not understood the whole point, which is somethig I kept up to date with you, even gave you my cell phone number frfaster response, which in this case you clearly have not, why didn't you pm the OP At all till lately? The way you practice business with others is Very unproffesional, I think a few people here would agree.

[KageRyu7]

Its ok for you to send something that took long, but no one else?!?

This I just found, so wouldn't have seen it while I was gone and no one left me a clue or anything. Finding the link, now I can save it like I do others. I also made others aware exactly where I was going and when I was leaving prior to sales.
Woah woah woah. Read everything I said. I said you did finally ship my parts and that GREYHOUND sucked. And I was saying that parts didn't come yet, hopefully they would come soon but they do take a WHILE. And yeah I sent something to Jordan and it took forever to get there. Nothing I can do about it greyhound just sucks. Don't get so defensive.

As to the thing about people hiding from your problems. As I said in the begging I can understand if the whole thing was just a big miss understanding, but you were posting in other people threads and completely ignoring this thread, pm's, and calls/texts (though when you did show you said your phone was off).

With the fact that you did infact continue to post elsewhere in the forum it's kinda hard to justify why you couldn't answer pm's and this thread so I stand by everything I have ever said :shrugs:

[Littleman54]

Agreed communication is the key to business, that is what apr lacks from everything i read. I usually respond in a day or two to pms, but most of the time i respond instantly once i see them. Once you keep your customer informed with everything that's going on, it reassures them that they aren't getting scammed and this thread would never appear. Glad that everything is being set straight.

[ikhaffaji]

Nice job APR, dodging PMs is a very shady thing to do. :ugh:

[mrluilou]

Communication is the key if you still have not understood the whole point, which is somethig I kept up to date with you, even gave you my cell phone number frfaster response, which in this case you clearly have not, why didn't you pm the OP At all till lately? The way you practice business with others is Very unproffesional, I think a few people here would agree.

you never gave me your number :sadpace:

[donteatbugs]

:ugh: Waiting for you to respond to my emails and PMs... Package is ready to be shipped, and there is no damage to the struts... the pics he sent you are of the Gold P/U that you said I could keep... and I'm not shipping Person B's items to Person A's address without BOTH consenting to whatever Person A does to repackage, with/out components intended for Person A, that I can't possibly be held responsible for them. Out of my hands, and this is waiting for you.

Secondly, prior to purchase, you said you were willing to wait... The set you have now is the set you purchased, therefor you received them in ~2 weeks. I have been having issues with The UPS Store about packages I've shipped.


i responded, you never said how long the wait was gonna be or told me that they had to come from japan. either way i have suspension on my car that i can run. and since none of this was my fault and im having to pay shipping to lace to send her stuff to her as well. this is gonna cost me about 30 bucks because i live in a rurual town. that not a big deal except for the price you listed on the set was 950 shipped. i paid 900 for mine. now im paying 930 for mine and waiting another month for my top hats to get here from japan again. either way i guess ill eventually get all my parts. this is not how i wouls have handled things though.

[Mido]

Lol Luis.

[lamboceliGTS]

:ban:

[Canon20]

Sorry you have not been forgiven. You are unprofessional and lack in good business skills therefore your shady business practices and deceitful tactics will end your venture. I will agree with everyone here and even say it once more, communication is absolute key plain and simple no excuses. You were the one to complain about that in your own thread about Worrplyr too which is why I'm baffled of your direction. Instead of having to explain yourself now don't you think it would have been a whole lot easier and less stressing to notify your customer first, after all you have or should I say HAD a trust bond with them. You are still made out to be 100% guilty.

i responded, you never said how long the wait was gonna be or told me that they had to come from japan. either way i have suspension on my car that i can run. and since none of this was my fault and im having to pay shipping to lace to send her stuff to her as well. this is gonna cost me about 30 bucks because i live in a rurual town. that not a big deal except for the price you listed on the set was 950 shipped. i paid 900 for mine. now im paying 930 for mine and waiting another month for my top hats to get here from japan again. either way i guess ill eventually get all my parts. this is not how i wouls have handled things though.

Hold on, WHAT!? You shouldn't have to be the one paying for shipping out of pocket, no matter what. This product is not YOURS, it is aprcelica product. Are you seriously writing that you are utmost willing to lose $30.00 to ship out his own poorly described product? I wouldn't do it. You shouldn't do it, you don't need to do it. This product is not yours, you are just simply holding onto it this product is aprcelica's 100%. It is In this situation, failed communication, horrid service, just straight up shady business I am surprised he would have the nerve to tell you to cover shipping!!!!!!!!!! The way it looks like he is conducting business, he probably sold those for $950 shipped to, but he gets to pocket that full amount because that $30.00 you are covering. THINK ABOUT IT MAN, WHY DO YOU NEED TO BE THE ONE TO COVER SHIPPING? THAT'S NOT EVEN YOUR PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Achysklic]

aprcelica I think once everyone is taken care of you must apologize and resign from this forum! What you have done to these people is un-ethical to say the least.

[donteatbugs]

yes canon20, im getting royaly screwed in this deal. i just got another email today from him saying he shipped out mine a lace's parts together to me. it doesnt really matter seeing as i have to send her the coilovers anyway. the problem is he didnt tell me prior to shipping that he was using greyhound. the problem with greyhound is that they are 30 miles away from my houseand about 45 awy from where i work. there hours are mon-fri 11am-5pm, my hours are mon-fri 6am-5pm the get there before they close any of thosae days i will have to take 2 hours off work and drive 60 miles. this will cost me $70 to do bring the total price to ~$1000 for coilovers that i had to wait 3 months to get and that have slight damage to them. im not happy. <end rant>

[wel_565]

Lol Luis.

yeah mido..what's wrong with you bro...you should have giving luis your number a while ago...that's a bad trader rating for you :chuckles:...luis has about 80% of peoples numbers on here...and he isn't kool until he has everyone's number. lol

[KageRyu7]

Well my parts arrived today. Ddragon is gonna take a look at everything for me when he gets time since I know diddly squat about these parts. Hopefully everyone else gets their parts/refunds.

[donteatbugs]

he sent my parts saturday but greyhound wont answer at the hub he sent them to

[IPD84]

To put some light on APRcelica, I bought an HID lever switch from him and received it the following week. His communications wasn't as prompt as one would hope for, but overall good experience for me. Sorry to hear all this negative things have been happenings.

[boothten]

he just posted today, 3/18/10 at 8:30 PM pacific standard time

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4994222&postcount=18

don't really know if there were still any issues with him, just letting you guys know
:shrugs:

[jordan71]

is everyone finally satistfied now?

[Mido]

Sorry, but this is freaking ridiculous, he still sent the coilovers via greyhound?!?!?! He ****ed up, yet still trying to save money by shipping it greyhound + you'll have to drive at least 30 minutes 1 way + gas + the headache? He should of freaking next day air'ed it to you as a sort of way to apologize. Thank god this isn't with mr or I would have flown there myself, picked up my parts or heck even got a full refund PLUS make him pay for the ride. Frank, I can't beleive you still shipped it greyhound and wouldn't pay the extra $75-$125 in compensation for you're mistakes instead of making him wait the first 3 months + god knows how long it'll take fr his coilovers to arrive now, if ever, had you done what I stated above, some people would have forgiven you and maybe even respect you. This is coming from someone who can't ( i'll call it spare .. ) $200 max to cover his mistakes, from someone who has $50k invested . . . . Just wow.

[epicwolf]

there's no excused for shady business. Like i said before. When you deal with business and already have people's money, do whatever it take to get them the product AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. Even if you have family issues you must go through with it. No excuse. But shady business practice will always happen because people will always forgive people like this. I dont forgive people like this even if they finally give customers what they want.

[epicwolf]

is everyone finally satistfied now?


why should they? Should never be satisfied having to go through such trouble just to get your product.

[KageRyu7]

Well I'm still looking for someone to identify my parts to make sure everything is there(since I dont know). I'll probably have to take pics and upload them and have everyone here tell me what things are. As of now I can say that he didn't send me a shift knob and the shift console was in horrible condition due to the way it was packaged.

[aprcelica]

Sorry, but this is freaking ridiculous, he still sent the coilovers via greyhound?!?!?! He ****ed up, yet still trying to save money by shipping it greyhound + you'll have to drive at least 30 minutes 1 way + gas + the headache? He should of freaking next day air'ed it to you as a sort of way to apologize. Thank god this isn't with mr or I would have flown there myself, picked up my parts or heck even got a full refund PLUS make him pay for the ride. Frank, I can't beleive you still shipped it greyhound and wouldn't pay the extra $75-$125 in compensation for you're mistakes instead of making him wait the first 3 months + god knows how long it'll take fr his coilovers to arrive now, if ever, had you done what I stated above, some people would have forgiven you and maybe even respect you. This is coming from someone who can't ( i'll call it spare .. ) $200 max to cover his mistakes, from someone who has $50k invested . . . . Just wow.

Teh, funny... Cuz, Greyhound offers tracking and insurance, in case packages are lost/damaged.

I did reimburse $70 to cover travel expenses.

and you and DONTEATBUGS have no room to talk. Both of you shipped items Parcel Post. No insurance, no tracking; from people you demand both. Shame.

[aprcelica]

Sorry, but this is freaking ridiculous, he still sent the coilovers via greyhound?!?!?! He ****ed up, yet still trying to save money by shipping it greyhound + you'll have to drive at least 30 minutes 1 way + gas + the headache? He should of freaking next day air'ed it to you as a sort of way to apologize. Thank god this isn't with mr or I would have flown there myself, picked up my parts or heck even got a full refund PLUS make him pay for the ride. Frank, I can't beleive you still shipped it greyhound and wouldn't pay the extra $75-$125 in compensation for you're mistakes instead of making him wait the first 3 months + god knows how long it'll take fr his coilovers to arrive now, if ever, had you done what I stated above, some people would have forgiven you and maybe even respect you. This is coming from someone who can't ( i'll call it spare .. ) $200 max to cover his mistakes, from someone who has $50k invested . . . . Just wow.

Oh, and if you took the time to check the posted tracking numbers, all packages have been received up to 2 weeks ago. Facts straight. Your parcel Post to me took 8 weeks, and you didn't even ship it to me. Someone else got it.

[aprcelica]

Well I'm still looking for someone to identify my parts to make sure everything is there(since I dont know). I'll probably have to take pics and upload them and have everyone here tell me what things are. As of now I can say that he didn't send me a shift knob and the shift console was in horrible condition due to the way it was packaged.

Thats because I never sent any ahift knobs in any of the (4) packages. I restate, I never had any shift knobs to sell. Only the shift boot and console. Pics.

[lamboceliGTS]

So how do you have 50K invested since we aren't getting any other straight answers?

[donteatbugs]

I only shipped parcel because i reused the box you sent them to me in and it was so damaged from greyhound that usps wouldnt insure it. The lady at the post office almost didnt even take it. Lace is happy and got her parts in less than a week after i got them from greyhound. Shipping parcel was $45 and weighed in at 60 lbs. the 70 you gave me covered shipping but not much else. If i sell something and ship it out im gonna have tracking on it. I wasnt shipping anything i sold. That was your responsibility. I was just trying to help you pick up some pieces and tie up the loose ends.

Now im still waiting on the GREEN pillowball upper mounts so i can put my coilovers on. Any idea when ill be getting these? i know you said you have ordered then from japan already but are they on the way over yet?

(one other thing. the rear strut you damaged the threads on. yeah....the dampening screw was damaged as well. it only turned 12 clicks and the other one turns 25. it binded up when you try to go anymore like its threads were damaged. i worked it out and its ok now but i wasnt happy about that.)

So if there was anything you want me to do different let me know. if you wanted it shipped better you should have given me more to work with. im not coming out of my pocket anymore to help you not get me my parts....thats just stupid. i have done everything you needed and more. (IE: fixed lace's damaged strut before i sent it to her and repainted it.) I have been in touch with her more than you have.

[KageRyu7]

Can anyone here help me identify all the parts I received

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=315010

[Mido]

Can anyone here help me identify all the parts I received

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=315010
you should send him back some of the items that were damaged.

Teh, funny... Cuz, Greyhound offers tracking and insurance, in case packages are lost/damaged.

I did reimburse $70 to cover travel expenses.

and you and DONTEATBUGS have no room to talk. Both of you shipped items Parcel Post. No insurance, no tracking; from people you demand both. Shame.
WHAT?! SHAME ON US?? hahahaha, you're a ****ing wackjob you, i NEVER EVER ship parts parcel post unless told by the buyer, another thing, why in the hell would i ship an ENVELOPE weighing a few ounces parcel post, know why? because it's only a few cents extra, which in my case i do pay it out of pocket, unlike someone who says has 50k invested cant even ****ing send parts out after he pretty much made people wait weeks and some cases months for they're parts, AND YET STILL SHIP IT GREYHOUND !!! you could have spared the damn $200 and sent the buyers they're items NEXT DAY AIR ( 50k invested, pfft, you cheap-ass ).

As for you're tweeters, i had sent 2 packages out that day and messed up the addresses, now here's the difference between me and you, i INFORM my customers on what's going on, and how everything is going with regards to shipping, YOU, don't keep in touch AT ALL ... Lier? explain why i asked for you're phone number and told you to text me ASAP when you saw the pm to send me you're address, end of the day, you are very unproffesional, you still have not sincerely apologized to you're customers, and heck, didn't even replace a damaged item ( shifter surround to KageRyu7 ). He asked me if i can sell him the parts he needed, i said yes but also informed him that it will take me some time, unlike you, you accept the money, add it to what ever you have invested on top of the 50k, weeks/months later of keeping the customer waiting, then send a pm him or an e-mail, and send out they're item ( damaged in some cases, not very honest sir ) THE CHEAPEST WAY.... GREYHOUND ! And don't give me that bull**** about greyhound has a tracking system and what-not, sometimes they can't even tell you where the item is.

You're the biggest ******* i have ever met sir, and i personally think you should not be allowed to sell ANYTHING, and don't even deserve to buy ANYTHING on Newcelica.org. In you're case, you should read what people write about you and the ridiculous way you do business, eat it up, and shut the **** up.. And on top of that YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL ME AND ANOTHER MEMBER SHADY???

Oh, and if you took the time to check the posted tracking numbers, all packages have been received up to 2 weeks ago. Facts straight. Your parcel Post to me took 8 weeks, and you didn't even ship it to me. Someone else got it.
READ THE ABOVE.

[Canon20]

This thread here has run it's course and the pissing match is starting to become stale.

http://mvny.org/images/closed.gif

I will request that those of you who currently are having problems with aprcelica to open your own thread here. It's just starting to get sloppy here and I think most of you would agree with me.