The RSX getting better options

[rivvin]

Just FYI, it looks like the RSX is going to have another option to choose from next year.

http://beta.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=22252

Kinda costly if you ask me!

[revelation2k]

did u see what u get for 4800???

High performance, track-tuned shocks and springs
Slotted brake rotors and performance brake pads
Lightweight 17x7.5 inch alloy wheels
High performance tires (225/45VR17)
Factory performance rear wing spoiler
Under-body spoiler kit
Metallic look interior trim kit
Factory Performance shift knob
Factory Performance badging


all that for 4800 w/ factory warranty and all this from a dealer!!
i say not bad dince its all coming from the dealer

[gts24]

Originally posted by revelation2k
did u see what u get for 4800???

High performance, track-tuned shocks and springs
Slotted brake rotors and performance brake pads
Lightweight 17x7.5 inch alloy wheels
High performance tires (225/45VR17)
Factory performance rear wing spoiler
Under-body spoiler kit
Metallic look interior trim kit
Factory Performance shift knob
Factory Performance badging


all that for 4800 w/ factory warranty and all this from a dealer!!
i say not bad dince its all coming from the dealer

Honestly, you're joking right?


4800 for "looks" stuff? I don't think so. I'd take a 1 seater stripped out interior, with a seatbelt and seat rsx Type-R any day over this crap.

[2002GT_Celica]

Originally posted by gts24


Honestly, you're joking right?


4800 for "looks" stuff? I don't think so. I'd take a 1 seater stripped out interior, with a seatbelt and seat rsx Type-R any day over this crap.

Well, if you want good looks right off the dealership lot, plus a couple of nice performance options, I think the package is a good deal.

[steckelberg]

I agree- it's a great deal. Dealerships never offer packages this stacked. How often is there a lighter perfomance wheel option? Think of what the instal labor alonw would cost. Maybe I shoudl get an RSX...the celica still looks better.

[Willis5050]

That $4800 evidently does not include installation. Bad deal.

[Da Kine Guy]

Factory option means factory installed. They don't give you the car and a box full of "factory option" upgrade parts. Come on, you know that :nono:

[t2000gts]

it should definitely give a stock celica a run for it's money in the handling department now. about time.

[B-GTS]

So you gotta spend an extra $5G USD to make that beast try and look as good as the Celi and handle as well. Sucks to be them.

[gts24]

Makes me wonder what Toyota has up their sleeve for the 03 Celica......................................? if anything

[2002GT_Celica]

Originally posted by B-GTS
So you gotta spend an extra $5G USD to make that beast try and look as good as the Celi and handle as well. Sucks to be them.

I question the validity of that statement. IMO, the RSX is a great looking vehicle with the factory kit. As far as the handling, I have no idea, never really looked into it much.

[steckelberg]

I like the RSX...except for the head lights! They look like a pair of breasts...I hate those curves at the base. Stock I think they ride way too high- defenitely need to be lowered. When I talk about lowering mine(stock) my friends are like you didn't already? No matter what you add to an RSX it's never gonna look better than a celica. JMO. That and we're lighter by 300lbs too...

[revelation2k]

like i said....for a DEALER option....not an aftermarket product but straight from the dealer its not a bad deal....NOT a great deal...but not bad either...

just compare it to toyota's dealer options for the celica(TRD)......if i'm not mistaken when the TRD wing FIRST came out it was over 1grand just for a wing!!!!

and its not mostly for "looks" i'm sure the car will handle much better and stop shorter with some added looks

[revelation2k]

the only bad thing i see about it is....this might mean the type r wont be coming here anytime soon

[Deftech]

Toyota is doing basically the same thing for the IS300. There is now going to be two L-Tuned packages.

If I remember correctly the Stage II is about 5G and comes with progressive lowering springs, tuned suspension, Exaughst, a body kit and Larger alloy rims and wheels.

Just FYI

[rapture]

what kind of performance do you get out of a performance shiftknob and performance badging? oh thats right i've heard that you get 50 hp from that type r emblem stuff. but whats this factory stuff?

[z6joker9]

you guys know you can get all this same stuff at your dealerships right? go there and ask to see the trd book....

4800 plus installation(yes they will charge it) is a big RIP. and yes so was the trd kit when it first came out. What on the list COULD void the warrenty? syspension stuff causes a valve to bend? does a bodykit make a syncro go out? the only way they can void a warrenty for brake pads is if they provide free replacements... fat chance.

give me a stock rsx and the extra money, and it'll be FI.... it's still look like ass, be too heavy, and handle like ****, but it'll be turboed... it's no replacement for the teg or the R

[LBCelica2KI]

Having a car fixed up off the lot... What's the fun in that? The fun was getting your stuff together and installing it yourself or with friend's help.

[Spec GTS]

all that stuff is jus like the long beach edition celica that toyota had back in 2000

[acilecdps6]

So you will need to spend an additional 4800 just to get the RSX to be able to handle and stop like a Celica, and the RSX needs to be lowered TWO inches just to make it look right. The total price will now be several thousand more than the Celica. Some of that stuff is going to add weight to an already fairly heavy 'sporty' car.

[Chui]

For ~$5500 I don't think it's too bad kit:

High performance, track-tuned shocks and springs
Slotted brake rotors and performance brake pads
Lightweight 17x7.5 inch alloy wheels
High performance tires (225/45VR17)
Type R body kit

But, why not offer me the K20A engine?

Actually, the car as listed WILL outhandle the Celica. Check out any of the Australian car magazines [Motor and Wheels]. This is essentially the Oz version of the DC5 ITR. The only thing it truly needs is a limited-slip differential.

[gts24]

That's great and all. but like I said in a previous post..... I could care less about looks, give me the Type R .... or give me nothing. It'd be better. I dunno, maybe Honda USA, has figured out that the Type R would probably be far too overpriced in this very competitive market. I'm sure it would be at least 27/28k and the dealers all try to mark those things up....... RX8/350/WRX/evo8 territory right there......

Originally posted by Chui
For ~$5500 I don't think it's too bad kit:

High performance, track-tuned shocks and springs
Slotted brake rotors and performance brake pads
Lightweight 17x7.5 inch alloy wheels
High performance tires (225/45VR17)
Type R body kit

But, why not offer me the K20A engine?

Actually, the car as listed WILL outhandle the Celica. Check out any of the Australian car magazines [Motor and Wheels]. This is essentially the Oz version of the DC5 ITR. The only thing it truly needs is a limited-slip differential.

[HilfigerCelica]

It's not that bad of a deal, but not great either. Let see $23K for the RSX and $5K for the performance package and you got a $28K car. Like GTS24 said, that's in the 350Z, RX8, WRX area. I think most buyers will opt for the higher performing cars.

[B-GTS]

ummm....slap 5G into the celi and it will destroy the RSX in the handling department. As well it will still look better, then this midly restyled 2 door Civic!

[F22-Raptor]

Actually I paid 23k for my WRX which is Celica and RSX territory now and no it was not stripped.

[gts24]

Originally posted by F22-Raptor
Actually I paid 23k for my WRX which is Celica and RSX territory now and no it was not stripped.

I'm talking more STi territory IF we end up getting it. Current rumor would say that we may get some version of it. Sorry I sould've clarified. I think you'd agree that paying that much for a "suped" up RSX over an STi would be asinine at best.

[F22-Raptor]

Hehehehe I agree. There are too many other cars that come stock with that stuff. My wrx came with the leather shiftknob as did the GT-S and Momo Steering wheel etc. all stock not bad for 200$ over invoice. If it was 4500 in go-fast parts it would be a different story. I would just take the 4500 and invest in engine internals and a small turbo. But that is just me and if I had to have the rsx.

[Tikked Again]

I think this goes with the dealerships love dumb people thread.

Tik

[t2000gts]

i don't think that thing would come anywhere close to outhandling a celica more than barely if at all, unless they tuned the engine, and stiffened up the chassis a lot more. those are the advantages the old Type R, and the new RSX Type R always had on the celica.

these kinds of modifications most people do to their cars anyway (on here and clubrsx.com at least), and they're not trouncing their stock brethren by any leap of the imagination.

anything that needs handling will still be a driver's race.

[Chui]

Originally posted by t2000gts
i don't think that thing would come anywhere close to outhandling a celica more than barely if at all, unless they tuned the engine, and stiffened up the chassis a lot more. those are the advantages the old Type R, and the new RSX Type R always had on the celica.

these kinds of modifications most people do to their cars anyway (on here and clubrsx.com at least), and they're not trouncing their stock brethren by any leap of the imagination.

anything that needs handling will still be a driver's race.

Not true. The Australian ITR handily outhandles the Celica GT-S. The chassis needs no stiffening [or at least the Type R version doesn't get it.

The only stiffening we're capable of doing easily is affect the torsional modes of the body in the area the suspension attaches to the body. No major stiffening of the body is done with just a few braces. The ITR has a few strategic panel doublers in addition to the upper [and lower] strut braces and the larger anti-roll bars.

[gts24]

Originally posted by Chui


Not true. The Australian ITR handily outhandles the Celica GT-S. The chassis needs no stiffening [or at least the Type R version doesn't get it.

The only stiffening we're capable of doing easily is affect the torsional modes of the body in the area the suspension attaches to the body. No major stiffening of the body is done with just a few braces. The ITR has a few strategic panel doublers in addition to the upper [and lower] strut braces and the larger anti-roll bars.

Ok,.... what am I missing here.

The australian "TypeR" is just the Type-S with a different badge on it. Correct me if I'm wrong but we had a guy on here FROM Australia, that had raced and beat an Australian Type-R.

I would think the Japanese Type-R has chassis stiffening of some kind, as the previous gen did.

[t2000gts]

hmm....what comparisons are you using when you say it handily outhandles the GTS (or what is it there? ZR? something weird like that), when the RSX Type S in this country (which can't be TOO far off) can't handily do anything except keep up.

or wait, when you say ITR do you mean old ITR or new ITR (RSX-R)

[CelicaNamja79]

Acura is doing this to compete with Celica action package :chuckles: and it is okiee deal considering it is from the dealers.

[gts24]

I guess, realistically all we have to do is look back upon that ariticle where the 5 RSX's were on the COVER of SCC.

With all the suspension modded cars in that shootout. I wasn't overly impressed with the numbers they were throwing down. Considering the money put into them.

[Chui]

"The australian "TypeR" is just the Type-S with a different badge on it. Correct me if I'm wrong but we had a guy on here FROM Australia, that had raced and beat an Australian Type-R.

I would think the Japanese Type-R has chassis stiffening of some kind, as the previous gen did."

It's the "action packed" Acura RS-X with the $5k premium.

No additional chassis stiffening has been done to the JDM car other than thicker anti-roll bars and chassis braces.

Okay, I came close to beating a C4 Vette... for a while. One incident does NOT accurately describe the potential of the cars. The only significant difference between the Australian ITR and the RS-X "Special" is the badging... All articles indicate that the chassis of the ITR is "still a notch above" the Celica's.

The magazines are MOTOR and WHEELS.

[t2000gts]

so you're saying the current australia RSX Type R (which is more like a rebadged RSX Type S with extra stuff) has a chassis that is one notch above the celica? what about the RSX Type S in the states?

i get confused when you say ITR, as to if you mean the old ITR (in states and overseas) and the new RSX-R/ITR. all the Type R(s) should have a stiffer chassis and better handling than the celica, but i dunno about the Type S. but if the aussie Type R is just a Type S...? what about the Type S in the states with just a shock/spring/brake upgrade? i would think that would put it slightly ahead of the celica off the showroom floor if it came with good tires, but they'd be even closer than before where i think the celica had the clear advantage in handling.

[Chui]

The DC5 is the new chassis [RS-X] and the DC2 is the older chassis [USDM ITR]. The DC5 R in Australia is the $5k premium "RS-X 'upgrade'". Australia didn't get the 220 bhp engine due to their lack of 98 octane fuel according to Honda-Australia. They also didn't get the limited slip differential.

However, the car does outhandle all sport compact cars in Australia and that includes the Cooper S, Renault Clio 172, Peugeot 206 GTi, Celica ZR and Tibouron.

The current car transfers too much weight uder very hard braking, rolls a bit much and this is exaggerated by it's relatively high ride height. The suspension "upgrade" is rumored to be the suspension from the Australian market DC5R. If that is so it will out handle all current FWD sport compact cars available. The larger specced brakes will also outbrake both of us and will be highly resistant to fade.

The only problems are no limited slip diff, but that will make the car a bit easier to drive for inexperienced persons [but i'd much rather have it] and the fvcked up steering feedback.

Yes, it'll be very quick around cones and tracks, but I'm still not interested in it. It's also much more expensive than the Celica GT-S now...

If the limited slip diff and the extra 17 bhp came with the car then it would be worth looking into from my perspective. It's fast approaching $30k.

[t2000gts]

goddamn, i wonder how much a RSX Type R would cost if it ever made it to the states...

[gts24]

Originally posted by t2000gts
goddamn, i wonder how much a RSX Type R would cost if it ever made it to the states...

Exactly, it would be ridiculously expensive and not even close to be worth it in my opinion. And Ithink that is the reason we aren't going to get it. Because U.S. people arent' that incredibly stupid.