hydraulic hood lift kit??

[danno]

Just wondering if anyone has ever installed a hydraulic hood lift kit in there Celicas..Pictures?? Don't believe I have seen this on anyone's car before.

[youngxlos]

Tein makes some for other cars, my cuzn has one on he's STI.
but i check the site and they don't have any for Celica's =(

[Proximity]

Doesn't BT216 have one?

[Shizuma]

You could probably make one...I imagine the hardest part would be the bracket the attaches to the chassis.

[yodaddyguido]

how would you choose the shock? how would you go about weighing the hood to choose the shock size/length? are there places out there that just have huge assortments of shocks of diff lengths and strengths? just throwing these out there for anyone wondering. (like me)

[Shizuma]

how would you choose the shock? how would you go about weighing the hood to choose the shock size/length? are there places out there that just have huge assortments of shocks of diff lengths and strengths? just throwing these out there for anyone wondering. (like me)

Most auto parts stores stock small body shocks for SUV rear hatches and lift backs (think Ford Explorers and the like). These would probably make great hood supports, you'd just need to find the right length.

[Omnious]

Maybe bt216 can give us an idea of the specs on his? :shrugs:

[Blue Bomber]

The most difficult part would be choosing the right resistance/valving to keep the hood up, yet allow it to be lowered easily without too much force. Not to mention it would also be different for CF hoods. I've got struts on my MR2's hood and engine lid and they work nicely, much better than the wood stick the previous owner was using. :rolleyes: At about halfway down, the hood/lid will close itself, and when opening up, the hood will pretty much raise itself from 3/4 of the way down.

[broderp]

how would you go about weighing the hood

I would assume with a SCALE.. :rimshot:

how would you choose the shock? how would you go about weighing the hood to choose the shock size/length? are there places out there that just have huge assortments of shocks of diff lengths and strengths? just throwing these out there for anyone wondering. (like me)

Seriously, I would assume if a shock or two can lift the hatch, it's bound to lift the hood. Right?

Maybe if the struts are a KNOWN pressure/ strenghth etc. we could weigh the rear hatch, multiply x two (there are two shocks) and come up with a weight to shock ratio.

Then weigh the hood and apply the same ratio. ??

Example: (off the wall made up numbers)
Hatch= 40lbs
Hatch shock= 15PSI (?) EACH
HOOD= 21lbs.
HOOD shock=X

So:

30psi/40lbs = X/21lbs

Solve for X

X= 15.75 or around 16psi ??? (Or 7.875 for two)

I'm probably overcomplicating it. :confused:

[trdmsprts27]

it can be done just have to make custom brackets for it. brad has em on his car but wouldn't say how it was done lol

[Shizuma]

I would assume with a SCALE.. :rimshot:



Seriously, I would assume if a shock or two can lift the hatch, it's bound to lift the hood. Right?

Maybe if the struts are a KNOWN pressure/ strenghth etc. we could weigh the rear hatch, multiply x two (there are two shocks) and come up with a weight to shock ratio.

Then weigh the hood and apply the same ratio. ??

Example: (off the wall made up numbers)
Hatch= 40lbs
Hatch shock= 15PSI (?) EACH
HOOD= 21lbs.
HOOD shock=X

So:

30psi/40lbs = X/21lbs

Solve for X

X= 15.75 or around 16psi ??? (Or 7.875 for two)

I'm probably overcomplicating it. :confused:

You're on the right track but you really wouldn't even need to support the whole hood. If you hold the hood at the edge where it meets the bumper, it's a lot easier than holding it where the hinge is.

If you wanted to get mathematical you could find the maximum angle that the hood opens to and take moments about a point using the hood's center of gravity, setting the system = 0 to find the minimum amount of force needed to keep the hood from moving ( F=ma)

....Or you could go to the store, buy a couple shocks and do some good old trial and error and return the ones that don't work :gap:.

[broderp]

You're on the right track but you really wouldn't even need to support the whole hood. If you hold the hood at the edge where it meets the bumper, it's a lot easier than holding it where the hinge is.

If you wanted to get mathematical you could find the maximum angle that the hood opens to and take moments about a point using the hood's center of gravity, setting the system = 0 to find the minimum amount of force needed to keep the hood from moving ( F=ma)

....Or you could go to the store, buy a couple shocks and do some good old trial and error and return the ones that don't work :gap:.

I can't speek for the OP, but I would think a hydralic lift on the front would look a bit.....a little bit.....stupid? :confused: May as well use the stock prop rod if thats the case. The point, IMO, would be to have it open like the rear hatch, with no support on the front near the bumper.

I could be wrong....;)


It's a great idea. I like it.

[bt216]

Doesn't BT216 have one?
yep. since 2006
Maybe bt216 can give us an idea of the specs on his?
it can be done just have to make custom brackets for it. brad has em on his car but wouldn't say how it was done lol
custom.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7355/100b0070.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/100b0070.jpg/)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5468/dsc00861y.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/dsc00861y.jpg/)
pic from TORC event in 2008

[jin602_05]

NOW, let us know how you did it! i want one!!!!

[trdmsprts27]

i want it done, it looks so much better then the hood prop

[jin602_05]

want it done, it looks so much better then the hood prop

i agree... looks wayyyy better!

[bt216]

they are rsx hood shocks from ebay. The seibon cf hood had to be cut and modified. The upper fender area also needs to be modified to make room for the shocks. The brackets aswell. C U S T O M.

[jin602_05]

thanks, imma have to look into it. :)

[trdmsprts27]

Ive looked into it awhile back but couldn't figure out how it was done lol. i thought your hood was stock

[jin602_05]

bt216, can you take a closer picture of the hood dumper. :)

thanks

[bt216]

i thought your hood was stock
nothing is.
bt216, can you take a closer picture of the hood dumper.
nope cuz its apart at the moment.

[jin602_05]

:wtc:

[yodaddyguido]

lol was just asking for the sake of anyone with questions... sheesh, i work at a fabrication/metal job shop

[Bitter]

lol was just asking for the sake of anyone with questions... sheesh, i work at a fabrication/metal job shop

make a bolt on kit, sell it.

[danno]

I knew someone had to have one, Nice whip BT216!!
BT216 did you have to drill into anything to mount the bracket?? Or did you use some existing holes.

This project shouldn't be to difficult. Time to get to work. So busy that it may be a few weeks though...

[yodaddyguido]

I knew someone had to have one, Nice whip BT216!!
BT216 did you have to drill into anything to mount the bracket?? Or did you use some existing holes.

This project shouldn't be to difficult. Time to get to work. So busy that it may be a few weeks though...

based on his previous responses HE didnt necessarilly do the work on that aspect of the car, but had a shop do it. and i can almost promise there was drilling in order to mount the shocks/brackets. the difficult thing would be creating clearance for the shocks to rest, as bt already mentioned.

[bt216]

yeah im not the fabricator.

[yodaddyguido]

yeah im not the fabricator.

you may not be the fabricator, but youve got some damn cool ideas and apparently the money to make them happen :D

[bt216]

you may not be the fabricator, but youve got some damn cool ideas and apparently the money to make them happen
yeah enough money and the right people. One of my fabicator's works for 5axis.

[yodaddyguido]

and i thought i had connections lol. very nice. do you have any sort of rear diffuser/underpanel going on with your car? thats one thing id REALLY like to snag for my car... if only for better gas mileage

[bt216]

do you have any sort of rear diffuser/underpanel going on with your car? thats one thing id REALLY like to snag for my car... if only for better gas mileage
im doing a LOT of things, stay tuned.

[lowredcruzr]

hey brad what are you doing????? oh wait i know :)

[bt216]

hey brad what are you doing????? oh wait i know
;)

[sdsu_celica01]

i know ;)

[boothten]

who's that good lookin model with your car in that 2nd picture brad?
:chuckles:

[johny123456]

I'm working on a kit.
I already ordered my springs. I only have to make the mounting point.

[johny123456]

I'm working on a kit.
I already ordered my springs. I only have to make the mounting point.

[johny123456]

I'm working on a kit.
I already ordered my springs. I only have to make the mounting point.

[johny123456]

sorry for the extra posts

[bt216]

who's that good lookin model with your car in that 2nd picture brad?
:ugh: me duh
sorry for the extra posts
you make an extra post to say that?:wtf:

[hombredelassrta]

nice. always wanted to just never took the time

[celica_2nr]

for me i feel like the shocks would just get in the way. whenever im working on the car i get so annoyed by the stand that i end up removing the hood. not worth it imo.

[celica_2nr]

nvm i saw brads pics of them. they dont really seem to be in the way.

[pe280ju]

any updates on this ?

No idea how you can manage to get a strut in the available space, was a fair bit of the hood bracing removed around the strut location area or just a bit for the bracket ?

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/jackstrong/hood3.jpg

[Bitter]

struts don't HAVE to be off the sides like that, they could be nearer the middle of the hood on the hood bracing?

[johny123456]

if have bin working on it today.
I have the drawing for the mounting brackets only they need to be made.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/16102010154.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/16102010155.jpg

When its finished it will be like this
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/Foto0176.jpg

[bt216]

nice!

[lowredcruzr]

looks good where did you get the shocks

[yodaddyguido]

looks good where did you get the shocks

+1, id like to know this as well

[CELICA581]

ill take the first kit to 92056 lol nice

[johny123456]

The spring are custom made at Springmasters.nl

[trdmsprts27]

ill take one of those as well

[purpleharo]

me to !!!

[johny123456]

Here is a drawing of the bracket.
Hope to get a price tommorow and when it is acceptable hope to get it before the weekand so i can install it saterday.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/Steun.jpg

[youngxlos]

good job!
do a group buy and earn yourself some cash for taking the time to make it happen
;)

[JO_CELICA]

very unique! you can easily sell then for like $150.00

[bt216]

you can easily sell then for like $150.00

i was thinking like $75 :shrugs: is it needed on both sides?

[johny123456]

Yes it needs to be on two sides

[Colours]

Very Nice, I would definatly take one.

[johny123456]

Mayby I can set up a groupbuy if there are enough people that want a set but i need to get info on prices and stuff

Here is a 3D model of the bracket
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/Steun1.jpg

[bt216]

what are you thinking for price?

[johny123456]

Don't know yet.
First i must get a price for the brackets.

[hombredelassrta]

wow awesome. I'm in

[blacktsport]

Oooh me too. Something I've always wanted for the Celica.

[smart_rocket]

^ x2

[hombredelassrta]

no updates?

[johny123456]

No not yet
I'm waiting for the price.
Tomorrow i will go by them to ask if the have it already.

[johny123456]

I have the price but i don't think it would be affordable to have a groupbuy
One bracket would cost $100 If i got 5 people that want one.
You need two brackets so the total would be only for the brackets $200 and then you will need to have the springs. I don't know the price of the springs but i think that it would be $50 for one. So for 2 $100 then the total would be estimated at $300.

Mayby it would be less if more people want it.
But right now i don't see why i should set a groupby.

[hombredelassrta]

how much for you to redo those other brackets u made? :D

[johny123456]

The brackets on page 1 cost me $5 but they will not fit.

[Iroke17]

anyone cnc lol?

[horty222]

Tooling for custom parts get expensive. thats why youre getting such a high price. try and fabricate your own to cut down the cost. it seems pretty easy bracket to fab up. did you model your own bracket? or have someone else do it?

[The0wn4g3]

This is a pretty interesting idea.

Johny, does that lift require any modification to the engine bay/hood to fit? Where exactly would that bracket be mounted?

I can't be any help on the lift part, but machining a bracket is something I could do. I don't see why the bracket cannot be simplified, though.

[horty222]

I don't see why the bracket cannot be simplified, though.

Agreed^

[johny123456]

This is a pretty interesting idea.

Johny, does that lift require any modification to the engine bay/hood to fit? Where exactly would that bracket be mounted?

I can't be any help on the lift part, but machining a bracket is something I could do. I don't see why the bracket cannot be simplified, though.

The only thing that has to be done would be on one side in the hinge, there need to be drilled a hole. And in the wiper cowl on both side just before the rubber sealing needs to be a hole to clear a bolt underneath.

The bracket could maybe a little bit simpler but I want it to look nice.

[fatalexception]

I like the sound of this one... the hood prop has always annoyed me. *subscribed*

[johny123456]

begin next week ill get the test brackets.
When everything is oke and working ill order the final bracket.

[johny123456]

Finaly i got the test brackets today
This weekend ill be putting it on to see if it all works how i planned it.

If everything is working good ill will order the final brackets so that it looks nice.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/08122010171.jpg

[horty222]

Damn those brackets cost 100 each?????? I can make them for a few bucks. Thats a pretty simple bracket to fab up. Looks like raw steel with welded joints, Looks like cast but i doubt it.

[purpleharo]

send em to Horty and well get them done real cheap and great quality!!!

[jamespocoloco]

interestiiiing I would like one =)

[johny123456]

send em to Horty and well get them done real cheap and great quality!!!

Damn those brackets cost 100 each?????? I can make them for a few bucks. Thats a pretty simple bracket to fab up. Looks like raw steel with welded joints, Looks like cast but i doubt it.

You guys aren't reading. These are TEST brackets. The final brackets are better looking.

[trdmsprts27]

You guys aren't reading. These are TEST brackets. The final brackets are better looking.

im gonna have to agree with johny, why would he spend $100 on test pieces lol. the final product will prolly look like his CAD drawings.

[xCraZyEddiEx]

i like. interest here for sure.

[horty222]

im gonna have to agree with johny, why would he spend $100 on test pieces lol. the final product will prolly look like his CAD drawings.

This is true, But why would test brackets be constructed different than the final article?
It seems like he knows what hes doing, so Ill subscribe to see the on going project.

[trdmsprts27]

^prolly to see if the hood will close properly with that style of bracket even though its not the exact one he is going to use

[johny123456]

prolly to see if the hood will close properly with that style of bracket even though its not the exact one he is going to use

You are right. The dimensions of the test brackets are the same as te final one but not as nice looking.

Tommorow ill will put them on and see if the hood close properly and more importent stay open

[hypnotik69]

definitely interested!!!!!!!!!

[sgenini]

You are right. The dimensions of the test brackets are the same as te final one but not as nice looking.

Tommorow ill will put them on and see if the hood close properly and more importent stay open

Update us ASAP! :]

[Thomas]

Looks good, Johny!

Interested to see what the final hood lift kit looks like.

[xCraZyEddiEx]

would there be a discount for 20+, 40+ people?

[johny123456]

I believe it will.

But i have only one problem if its works.
I have a carbon hood from vis racing and that one is lighter than the oem hood.
I must find someone that will let me test it but if it doesn't work with oem he has a couple holes so i think it would be difficult to find someone

[trdmsprts27]

the hood doesnt weight that much. what are the shocks rated at?

[johny123456]

There 400n each

[trdmsprts27]

There 400n each

thats what 89lbs? if so they will be fine as the stock hood is only like 8-10lbs i think and CF hoods are only 6lbs. not pos on weight for either

[fathorsejr]

i can get the shocks pretty cheap...if everyone can get the brackets i can get the shocks.

[johny123456]

i had then installed today.
Here are the picture and a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fECy2xFI5Fg&feature=player_embedded

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/11122010172.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/11122010173.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/11122010174.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/11122010176.jpg

[trdmsprts27]

by watching the video those will support the stock hood no problem. so when you getting the final brackets????

[johny123456]

When i have the funds.

Just did a big buy so my bank account is a bit low right now.

I'm going to talk to the guy that is making the brackets for me, mayby he can give me a discount or something

[trdmsprts27]

the test brackets you used looked like they would work just fine unless the ones in the cad drawing are supposed to be inserted into a hole

[johny123456]

They are working fine but they won't fit nice if the wipercowl is installed.
In the wipercowl i must drill a hole to reveal the bolt underneath. Thats why the final bracket has that rond area at the bottom

[trdmsprts27]

aaah i see, was wondering why the cowl was off lol. so the bracket will be just under the cowl and a hole would be cut for the new hood support to give it a clean appearance

[johny123456]

Yes you are right. The round part on the bracket will be in the cowl

[trdmsprts27]

nice! now i want one lol

[horty222]

Looks AWESOME Johnny. great fab. keep it up.....

[xCraZyEddiEx]

looks great. great video. how much you need to start this thing?

[johny123456]

how much you need to start this thing?

What do you mean to start?

[xCraZyEddiEx]

how much are they going to charge for the creation of the brackets on the illustration. you said your without extra money. have people put down a down payment which should settle yours and have the others made with full payment.

[johny123456]

If have adjusted the final bracket a bit. So i'm waiting for the new price.

At this point i can't tell anything

[trdmsprts27]

yea man with enough ppl interested in this have them put a down payment so you can get this rollin lol

[horty222]

Are the barckets still going to cost you $100 to get them made? Are they milling them? What material are they being made out of?

[johny123456]

If i only want to buy them for myself, it will be a bit more for one bracket.
Yes ther milling them and they will be made out of stainless steal

[horty222]

Yeah milling stainless and beign custom is why the price is so high. Have you thought about a fabricated bracket? I will cost you much less.. If I can help with anything let me know. I would suggest and I'm not telling you what to do. Im sure the stainless bracket will be a quality bracket. Maybe using bar and plate welded could be cheaper.

[johny123456]

A fabricated bracket may be cheaper but do to the size the bracket has, in my opion it's better and nicer to let it mill.

Hopefully i have enough amount next month on my bank to order them

[bman365]

Most of the hood kits I have seen, has the shock stretch out to about mid of the fender and mounted a little above the hood hinge. With the shock so close to the bottom of the hood like yours, it will take a strong shock to lift the hood.

I didn't know this thread was going on, but I'll have something very soon. Already had it ordered before I saw this.

[horty222]

I didn't know this thread was going on, but I'll have something very soon. Already had it ordered before I saw this

Where and what are your mounting bracket location? I like the short shock/strut that Johnny has. does not take up that much room.

[trdmsprts27]

With the shock so close to the bottom of the hood like yours, it will take a strong shock to lift the hood.
if the shocks he is getting are rated like he said then he wont have a problem opening the hood or for the shocks to hold it open

[bman365]

Where and what are your mounting bracket location? I like the short shock/strut that Johnny has. does not take up that much room.

I haven't test fit the things yet, so I'm not sure if they will work the way they are right now.

[Aka Rafa]

very noiice! Johny..be interested in some myself when you are ready with them. side note...clean up that c-one bar while you have the cowl off :D

[bman365]

if the shocks he is getting are rated like he said then he wont have a problem opening the hood or for the shocks to hold it open
I was just saying, if others wanted to do this. The aftermarket kits for other cars have them set up as I said before, maybe they done it that way to relieve stress on the shocks, or it opens easier like that? Who knows..but the set I have is much longer so we will see how it turns out.

[trdmsprts27]

depending how long they are you may run into clearance problems with the shock and hood not closing.. bt216 had to modify his hood in order to use the long version shock. i looked into it 2 summers ago and ran into the problem of the shock not having enough clearance without modifying some of the skeletal frame of the hood.

[horty222]

I want to see if one of you guys come up with either a affordable way to make this or a write up with dimensions and specs. I think Johnnys set up looks very clean. How long is that shock? 7"?

[Toxygene]

If you want another idea for a bracket/hood strut, I can take pictures of the setup in my Audi A3. It's completely reverse.

[johny123456]

I want to see if one of you guys come up with either a affordable way to make this or a write up with dimensions and specs. I think Johnnys set up looks very clean. How long is that shock? 7"?

It will be cheaper as more people want it. Atleast for the bracket I though off. If there where 10 people for two brackets it will 120. The shocks i don't know how much they are if i order for 10 people but for me they where about 50 each, so I think that if i want like 20 shocks it will be cheaper but i can't say for sure.

And you are right about the shock it is 7" long

very noiice! Johny..be interested in some myself when you are ready with them. side note...clean up that c-one bar while you have the cowl off

Didn't had time to do.

[bman365]

Yall do realize that his will be pretty expensive after the custom brackets, shocks and then shipping from the Netherlands.

[trdmsprts27]

yea we all know that

[Bitter]

need to setup a stateside distributor :lol:

[johny123456]

If I want 20 springs the price would be $40 for one.
So there will be needing two springs that would be $80 together, then the brackets they come at a total of $120 so the total without shipping would be $200.

And this if there where 10 people that want a set.

But i ask other guy to give me a price for the brackets, that i will get soon. Mayby he can make it for less.

[bman365]

I installed the hood damper kit today and fit pretty well. You would have to cut a little of the hood framing out OR just extend the ball joint piece not even a 1/4". Either really isn't an issue since this is for a vis carbon hood.

I used the bracket that came in the kit and cut a small sliver off of it and everything else bolted up in stock locations.

The shocks weren't strong enough (made for a different car), but not bad deal for $70 anyways. I'll sell these and buy a stronger set and update then.

[pe280ju]

I would be interested in buying a finished set off you.

Are they only going to be able to support a CF hood or stock also ?

[horty222]

Whats up Johnny, stil messing with this? Get anywhere? Maybe i can give this a shot.

[johny123456]

its laying around because i don't have money to make the brackets.
The brackets are the only thing i need to complete.
When i have then it's just bolt on.

Im planning to get them soon.

[johny123456]

Sold a couple of things.
So next week i will order the the brackets.

When i have them i will place pics of them.

[trdmsprts27]

cool deal man

[purpleharo]

sweet, very excited!

[hombredelassrta]

nice

[Dimaoala]

Can't wait! :D

[ToyotaGts]

nice cant wait to see

[johny123456]

Brackets are ordered so hopefully they will be ready by the end of next week

[purpleharo]

so excited

[Joey03_VVT-I]

^ That's what SHE said. :eatpop:

[purpleharo]

:blah::rofl:

[Dimaoala]

Brackets are ordered so hopefully they will be ready by the end of next week

:applaud:

[Colours]

Nice, They are looking awesome.

[Dimaoala]

any updates?

[horty222]

What he said

[johny123456]

Nope sorry not ready yet.
They have delay in production overall. He told me that he will see if he can speed it up but can't give me an date when they are ready.

As soon as they are ready i will let you guys know

[Danny_GTS]

Definately want!! Keep it up!

[horty222]

Johnny I ordered some shocks last week and I think i found a way to mount them without a bracket. I know you have done the leg work on this but I'm also giving this a shot. I can get the shock pretty cheap and if this works there will be no need of a bracket.

[johny123456]

Oke nice. When you have them installed place some photo's

[johny123456]

FINALLY IT IS FINISHED

Here are the photo's

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011418.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011424.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011423.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011422.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011420.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011419.jpg

[Bitter]

Where did you get that kit from? Did you need to drill for the mounting points on the body?

Oh, you have a CF hood...think that would hold a stock metal one?

[EMSRacerCeli03]

sweet how much was that set up? might not work on stock hoods, what are they rated for the shocks?

[horty222]

Very Nice Johnny, Looks real nice and clean. My trial gets mounted just past the other side of the cowl/weather strip piece. But it seems like I would have to tap underneath the hood with a hammer (lol) to get the hood to close. I left the ball mounts at work so I could not fininsh this weekene. But your looks very NICE. GREAT job..

[horty222]

Where did you get that kit from? Did you need to drill for the mounting points on the body?

Custom by Johnny

[Bitter]

Custom by Johnny

Oh yea, Its been a while since he updated....I had you and him mixed up.

Hows your setup going?

[CelicaGTSGuy]

Looks great Johnny, I too would be interested in these, if the price was right.

[hypnotik69]

wow i want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thomas]

Nice!

Zoals ik al zei: Respect!;)

[KageRyu7]

how much? lol

[hypnotik69]

how much? Lol

x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pool Playen Bob]

damn, that's a clean install. props dude!

[RWCustoms]

how much? Lol

x3

[Dimaoala]

Looks great Johnny, I too would be interested in these, if the price was right.

x2

how much? lol

x4

[johny123456]

Thanks.
As for the price it would be to much. If i want to make them now the price for one kit would be around $450. It will be cheaper to order more then one set but as for now i don't see something in a groupbuy. I'm looking for someone else that can make the brackets cheaper.

I think it will be strong enough for the stock hood but i'm not sure. My hood will stay open on one spring if there is no wind. i will need to find someone that will let me install my kit in his car to test. haven't found one yet.

[pe280ju]

Looks sweet

x5

[Dimaoala]

Johnny I ordered some shocks last week and I think i found a way to mount them without a bracket. I know you have done the leg work on this but I'm also giving this a shot. I can get the shock pretty cheap and if this works there will be no need of a bracket.

Can't wait to hear/see more about this! :D

[Toxygene]

FINALLY IT IS FINISHED

Here are the photo's

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011418.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011424.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011423.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011422.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011420.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy96/johnybob/Gasveren%20Motorkap/30052011419.jpg

I want!!

450 only? Make me one :bling: Hehe.

[CelicaGTSGuy]

Thanks.

How much are the gas shocks if you don't mind me asking?

450 only? Make me one Hehe.

That's minus the shipping from oversea's. That's a lot, if he could get it done for $100 on his end and sold them for $150 he would have a good thing going and make a profit. I'm sure a lot of people would buy it if it was only $150. That's about how much kits go for for other cars.

[brownbomber1988]

Three words
Clean
As
Hell

[Toxygene]

How much are the gas shocks if you don't mind me asking?



That's minus the shipping from oversea's. That's a lot, if he could get it done for $100 on his end and sold them for $150 he would have a good thing going and make a profit. I'm sure a lot of people would buy it if it was only $150. That's about how much kits go for for other cars.

Yeah, I'm crazy.. my tires cost more than some peoples wheels. I'd probably still do it just so it could become exclusive. LOL

Although if he has some schematics for that piece he could find a machine shop here in the States that could probably make them for him here stateside. He'd just need a middle-man to handle the sales and distribution of them. Wink Wink!

[CelicaGTSGuy]

^^^ Yea I'm trying to find a place and hopefully be the middle man.

[horty222]

There is no way my set up would work without modification to the hood braces. So i ordered new smaller shocks to clear the braces on each side of the hood. I still believe and pretty sure i can get this to work without a bracket. if i would have to fab up a bracket i could surely make it cheap and afforable. Non the less either way i would say for sure under $100 for a complete kit. Hopefully the finished bracket less set up is done by friday. As for the shocks one of the ones i got almost holds up the stock hood so with two shocks it will for sure hold it up.

[Bitter]

There is no way my set up would work without modification to the hood braces. So i ordered new smaller shocks to clear the braces on each side of the hood. I still believe and pretty sure i can get this to work without a bracket. if i would have to fab up a bracket i could surely make it cheap and afforable. Non the less either way i would say for sure under $100 for a complete kit. Hopefully the finished bracket less set up is done by friday. As for the shocks one of the ones i got almost holds up the stock hood so with two shocks it will for sure hold it up.

Please update. It would be awesome if you could make a template so us buffoons don't put holes in the wrong places ;) Or at the very least measure really well where the centers of the holes need to go.

[CelicaGTSGuy]

I also found some places around me, going to get a price quote hopefully tomorrow. They seem to have the right size shocks and brackets that will work. The same design as Johnny made up, but should make the cost a lot cheaper without having to custom make anything.

[horty222]

I would include 1:1 drawings with crosshairs to mark all holes needed to be drilled.

[Bitter]

Awesome. For $75+shipping I'd buy eventually. Not on my top list, but it is something I want.

[Dnar]

Plz do a list on people that are interested and maybe make something of this in the future =D.

BTW I WANT THIS!!!

[2NDchnceCELI]

IM IN for GB!

[johny123456]

There is a guy on our forum that may be able to make the brackets for cheap. And CelicaGTSGuy is willing to be the middle man. So mayby very soon i will be able to sell this kit.

[Bitter]

I was thinking about this today after I closed the hood on a few GM's....who says the lifts need to be on the sides? The area the hood scoop attaches to is very strong and there is clearance behind/above the engine. Both lifts could go there or a single lift for CF hoods. Any thoughts on that?

[purpleharo]

id be in for gb as well!!

[CelicaGTSGuy]

IMO it looks better on the sides, looks cleaner. It may work in the middle, but I would have to see it.

[ano]

Congrats for these tiny sexy pieces johny.
Unfortunately I have other priorities for 450, but if these could be manufactured at a considerably lower price, I ll be all over them.

Great job!!

[ano]

Just a thought.. wouldn't the following simple brackets work?
In addition, Johny what struts did you use? They look pretty small and I cannot find them anywhere..

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8803/liftkitstuts.jpg

[jin602_05]

For the right price, I’ll be interested in a Group Buy. :)

[CelicaGTSGuy]

He had everything custom made to his specs, also the brackets make it look better, like OEM.
Here's what I have, just waiting for the brackets.
Everything so far is less than $50
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/CelicaGTSGuy/IMG_8713.jpg

[CelicaGTSGuy]

For the right price, I’ll be interested in a Group Buy. :)

Hopefully if Johnny can get the brackets made else where, along with my source we should be able to offer it for a really good price. For what I'm thinking there will be two kits. One for stock hood and one for CF hood, and they will include all hardware plus a write up on how to install them.

[Dnar]

Me like alot!!! Sign me up ;D

[horty222]

Here's what I have, just waiting for the brackets.
Everything so far is less than $50

__________________



Good stuff Celicagtsguy.
I also have got a complete set very similar and now working on fabbing up mounting points/ brackets. Like you said this should be a better price.
Make sure your springs cylinders are not past the 19mm thickness. Or you it will hit the hood.

[Dimaoala]

Everything so far is less than $50


Let's hope it stays that way. :thumbup:

[CelicaGTSGuy]

Make sure your springs cylinders are not past the 19mm thickness. Or you it will hit the hood.

Thanks, This is the specs on them, I think they will be good

.24 Dia. Rod (6.0mm), .59 O.D.(14.9mm)

[brownbomber1988]

I need these by the 18th!!!

[CelicaGTSGuy]

^^^ they are still in R&D, not for sale yet. You could make them yourself if you need them bad enough.

[brownbomber1988]

Word

[Bitter]

He had everything custom made to his specs, also the brackets make it look better, like OEM.
Here's what I have, just waiting for the brackets.
Everything so far is less than $50
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/CelicaGTSGuy/IMG_8713.jpg

I would be down for that kind of setup. I think I'm going to try to make something for my other car if the Celica gets this....can't ignore the slow-mobile.

[Joey03_VVT-I]

:eek: -NINJA whaaaaaat!? That sh*t is hella clean!
:thumbup:-Awesome job Johny!

[sgenini]

let us know when these are available to the public ;P

[horty222]

Almost got this complete. Need to machine one part and whala....
Here is a video, sorry for the quality had to do it myself. This is also on the stock hood.
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/th_100_2258.jpg (http://s668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/?action=view&current=100_2258.mp4)

[Dimaoala]

^ That looks GREAT! :applaud:

Are these gas shocks?

[purpleharo]

looks great horty!!! lmk when ready for production!!!

[horty222]

Are these gas shocks?

yeah, They had to be custom ordered. Lucky thing is that its from a current vendor from my work. These were free. I would have to get quote for x quantities.

[kingpapilove]

Yea horty these look dope!!!! Definitely would be interested in a set

[Dimaoala]

yeah, They had to be custom ordered. Lucky thing is that its from a current vendor from my work. These were free. I would have to get quote for x quantities.

Can't wait to here the quote, I'd definitively be interested in buying!

Good job horty! :thumbup:

[trdmsprts27]

need a set pronto horty and your shift gate lol

[johny123456]

Nice work horty.

[J0$3]

bien hecho horty :thumbup:

[CelicaGTSGuy]

Nice work Horty, I just got a quote for some at a little over $10.00 a shock for custom ones. But I also found a place that I got mine from which cost the same but a little bigger, You can see them on the pic posted a few post back. I just need to get a bracket made and I (also Johnny) will be able to have a kit.

[2NDchnceCELI]

:headbang: nice!! clean!! im deffinetly in!

[horty222]

Thanks everyone.

Nice work horty.
Thanks man, you inspired it.

Nice work Horty, I just got a quote for some at a little over $10.00 a shock for custom ones
Man thats pretty cheap, good find. I dont know if mine will be that cheap.


need a set pronto horty and your shift gate lol

Just got them cut yesterday. ill send you one this week hopefully.

[hombredelassrta]

Yup . . . i'm buying.

[CelicaGTSGuy]

Man thats pretty cheap, good find. I dont know if mine will be that cheap.

If you want I can pm you the place that can make them if you want to make a kit for a good price. Also I see how you mounted the shock without the bracket I think. Did you just use the ball stud and attach it to the cowl some how? If that's the case this would only cost about $50 for everything minus the diagram on where to put the ball stud at.

[CRBCelica]

Looks like the shocks couldn't push the hood up without your help? Im also interested!

[Pool Playen Bob]

That's because there compressed. ^ ^ they don't help/push/hold until half way or so uncompressed.

[Dimaoala]

yeah, They had to be custom ordered. Lucky thing is that its from a current vendor from my work. These were free. I would have to get quote for x quantities.

So does that mean the hood can open by itself without any help?





And when do think you'll start selling these? and how much?

Thanks horty. :thumbup:

[bman365]

Usually that type of shock only assists you as you lift the hood and holds it up. It doesn't lift it up for you.

[Soo__Fuego]

Very nice, I like that they are small and not taking up space for engine bay work.

[trdmsprts27]

Just got them cut yesterday. ill send you one this week hopefully.

alright cool. just email me the price shipped once you have it coated

[pe280ju]

What sort of price are we looking at for the whole kit ?

Thought I would start a list of who wants them anyway:

1. pe280ju
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

[purpleharo]

1. pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

[Dnar]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

[brianv3ntura]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

[horty222]

I got some quotes back today. I would have to get a minimun of 100 pcs for a good price (14$ a spring so 28$ for a set). I would have to commit to 50 sets to sell and front the money right away. Im not about to invest $1400 on just springs and hope they all sell.
I did however order 20 springs to make 10 sets. They are 1-2 week lead time at 22$ each so $44 for just the springs. The hardware for one end is cheap (2) @$2.50each and then (2) @$1 each for the other side. Ball stud mount I can get from work for one side less than .50, the other side will have to be machined and then zinc coated so it wont rust. Thats the quote im waiting for now. Machinist ball park figure was 5-10$ for the set. So price will be if that final quote stands 80-90$ shipped including paypal fees and a few bucks in my pocket :D.

Now Celicagtsguy says he can get it for around $50 or less with his set-up so he will be cheaper. That will be up to the buyer which route they want to go. I have already commited to the spring supplier and fronted the money. Once I get the final pieces in line, I will contact LarryD for sponsorship and start the sale.

Now if I can get a feel who might be down for 1 of the 10 sets let me know.

Thanks all

[brownbomber1988]

I'm down for urs

[purpleharo]

im stil down for 80-90!!

[Jovy11]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.Jovy11
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


keep it up guys im def interested.

[trdmsprts27]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.Jovy11
6.trdmsprts27 - must have these, want these, need these :)
7.
8.
9.
10.

[krazieboy]

I might be interested in these depending on how they are installed. Mind giving a quick overview of the installation? Thanks

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using Tapatalk

[brianv3ntura]

I might be interested in these depending on how they are installed. Mind giving a quick overview of the installation? Thanks

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using Tapatalk

+1 for this suggestion.

[KageRyu7]

damn i wish i had money right now

[Danny_GTS]

i might be interested in these depending on how they are installed. Mind giving a quick overview of the installation? Thanks

sent from my t-mobile g2 using tapatalk

x3

[blacktsport]

Would you be willing to ship to Europe, and if so, what kind of extra cost would we be looking at? Very definitely interested! I'll spread the word over here too ;)

[EMSRacerCeli03]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.Jovy11
6.trdmsprts27 - must have these, want these, need these
7.EMSRacerCeli03- want a set too :)
8.
9.
10.

[Dimaoala]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.Jovy11
6.trdmsprts27 - must have these, want these, need these
7.EMSRacerCeli03- want a set too :)
8.Dimaoala
9.
10.

[Toxygene]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.Jovy11
6.trdmsprts27 - must have these, want these, need these
7.EMSRacerCeli03- want a set too
8.Dimaoala
9.Toxygene
10.



If I change to a CF hood, would I need to change out the shocks on that?

[bman365]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.Jovy11
6.trdmsprts27 - must have these, want these, need these
7.EMSRacerCeli03- want a set too
8.Dimaoala
9.Toxygene
10.bman365

[horty222]

Almost there guys. I have 1 more alternative thing im working on to reinforce the mounting on the cowl.
Pics of the hood full opened by itself and as far as it will go down holding it up by itself. thats with no wind so.
If there are no more hold ups I will have this sale up and running by the weekend or early next week. Price will be at set at $80 shipped to your door via UPS ground to lower 48. I will be able to start shipping by early to mid next week too. Lets hope there are no hold ups. I will contact LarryD this weekend also to set up vendor status.


hood all the way up:
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2323.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2322.jpg

Lowest hood setting with no wind:
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2321.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2328.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2320.jpg

[purpleharo]

looks great man!! looking forward to another of your products, as well as the shift plate!!

[hombredelassrta]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.Jovy11
6.trdmsprts27 - must have these, want these, need these
7.EMSRacerCeli03- want a set too
8.Dimaoala
9.Toxygene
10.bman365
11. Hombredelassrtas (cash ready, will be first celica part purchase since this time last year :) )

[Pool Playen Bob]

dang, i might have to get a set too. would be nice to not have a hood prop in the way.

got any pics of it super up close so i can see how it mounts? im sure its just a ball and what not.

[EMSRacerCeli03]

how will those shocks work with a cf hood though? need a different shock right?>

[RWCustoms]

I'll probably get one but i need to see how well it holds up a CF hood (seibon more specifically)

[horty222]

how will those shocks work with a cf hood though? need a different shock right?>

That I have no idea, i dont know how much a carbon fiber hood weighs compared to an OEM.

[Gts*Jason]

1.pe280ju
2.purpleharo
3.Dnar(interested for cf and oem hood)
4.brianv3ntura
5.Jovy11
6.trdmsprts27 - must have these, want these, need these
7.EMSRacerCeli03- want a set too
8.Dimaoala
9.Toxygene
10.bman365
11. Hombredelassrtas (cash ready, will be first celica part purchase since this time last year :) )
12. Gts*Jason

[EMSRacerCeli03]

cf hoods usually weigh 8-11 lbs. forgot about stock one, like 30lbs or more

[Ghost Dragon]

Down for a set. Ready to pay as soon as you be ready to ship! :gap:

[horty222]

Later tonight or tomorrow for sure, now that I got the Vendor status I will be posting the for sale thread in the vendor section. I only have 10 sets right now, but more coming soon. This will be first come first served via paypal.

[trdmsprts27]

ill paypal you now! lol

[Dnar]

Asoon as you post I will be ready to paypal =D

[Dnar]

Onlu for CF hood or OEM also?