TRD Front Bumper retrofit

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

It has come to my attention that trd front bumper on the celica sits way to high and doesnt flow with the kit . I was thinking about retrofitting the trd front bumper as the picture below . I would like everyones input on this weather this would be a possible good alternative and if celica owners would actually buy this bumper modified like this.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/Frost7177/1-5-08_celica_cruise_010-1.jpg

The yellow celica is a stock trd front
The Silver Celica has a modified trd front

[jin602_05]

Is there any more picture of that Celica? IMO the add on modify lip look a bit weird.
But seeing more picture can be a bit different.

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

I had another one but dont know where it is. If anyone has anymore pics of these celica please post them in here.

[R I C H I E]

http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=281664&highlight=mystery+trd+lip

edit* One more http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=283282&highlight=mystery+trd+lip&page=2

[7th Gen]

i like the one frost posted, the tusami kit front with the modded lip looks good, but not the last one. i say go for it

[00 LSM GTS]

That looks pretty good. I also like this mildly modified TRD front lip.
http://gi143.photobucket.com/groups/r135/P4RO7R9P22/E-1618.jpg

[Extreme Dimensions]

Interesting. If we can get enough interest, we may be able to do/assist on something like this. Let me know Frost!

-Ken

[R I C H I E]

^A sample model would help, before anyone inputs their opinion.

[Extreme Dimensions]

Frost is going to be doing all of the prototyping work, we will be doing the mfg side of things.

-Ken

[Zero]

I was going to close this since it's a repost, but Extreme Dimensions is offering relevant help on the issue.

If you didn't know, that TRD front bumper (silver one) has a Civic Si lip.
Seeing how Extreme Dimensions has the resources, why not have them fit on lip and make a custom TRD front bumper like the one in the first picture?

[Zero]

Frost is going to be doing all of the prototyping work, we will be doing the mfg side of things.

-Ken
That is good to hear, something out of the box.

:thumbup:

[Extreme Dimensions]

I was going to close this since it's a repost, but Extreme Dimensions is offering relevant help on the issue.

If you didn't know, that TRD front bumper (silver one) has a Civic Si lip.
Seeing how Extreme Dimensions has the resources, why not have them fit on lip and make a custom TRD front bumper like the one in the first picture?

That is good to hear, something out of the box.

:thumbup:

If we can help provide a part to the community that another member of the community has their hands in, we are more than willing to lend our resources to the project. We form partnerships like this more often than people think.

-Ken

[R I C H I E]

Keep us updated Ken!

[Extreme Dimensions]

We will definitely be doing that and we may be tapping you for a test fit when the time comes since I see you're in SoCal. :thumbup:

[R I C H I E]

Alright cool, i'm like over in Rowland Heights area anyways.

[xantonin]

Seems pointless to have a whole new bumper for us people with a TRD front already.

Why not just get/make a splitter?

[Extreme Dimensions]

Seems pointless to have a whole new bumper for us people with a TRD front already.

Why not just get/make a splitter?

If we did that, the only people that would be able to buy it would be those with the TRD front already. That pool would be too small to draw off of. Whereas if we went with an entire front bumper, anyone with a Celica can get ahold of it without having to purchase 2 seperate peices.

-Ken

[R I C H I E]

Xantonin made a good point actually.
Most people here, in socal atleast, have an oem trd front bumper rather then a replica. I'm very sure that if you guys made a additional lip or splitter, you will get more demand on that over a whole remodified front bumper.

[xantonin]

Somebody should make a poll for interests on a splitter for the TRD front.

I know for one I would be interested. My primary reason is that once I lower my car, I want something more rigid to protect the front bumper in case I hit a bump or something straight on.

As an FYI, the TRD front bumper from Toyota is about $2,000 (I was told when I went in, at least). That's excluding a paint job. It's definitely something I want protected...

[Extreme Dimensions]

Xantonin made a good point actually.
Most people here, in socal atleast, have an oem trd front bumper rather then a replica. I'm very sure that if you guys made a additional lip or splitter, you will get more demand on that over a whole remodified front bumper.

That's another route we can take but we are going to see how this plays out for the time being.

Somebody should make a poll for interests on a splitter for the TRD front.

I know for one I would be interested. My primary reason is that once I lower my car, I want something more rigid to protect the front bumper in case I hit a bump or something straight on.

As an FYI, the TRD front bumper from Toyota is about $2,000 (I was told when I went in, at least). That's excluding a paint job. It's definitely something I want protected...

Our version of the TRD is under $200 and the fitment is excellent. This modded bumper may very well be more than that but it's still going to be less expensive than the authentic TRD front.

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

Myself and Ken was also talking about after I make the the intital bumper that they will make one in fiberglass and duraflex so it will be just as strong as a trd bumper but provide a lower stance with an aggressive look ontop of it.

[Extreme Dimensions]

Definitely looking forward to being able to offer this to the community with the help of one of it's members!

-Ken

[vegeta4ss]

I would be interested in an add on lip but not a whole new bumper. I wouldn't want to roll with a 2/3 authentic TRD kit and a replica front, even if it did look better.

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

The lip cannot be just stuck on overtop the bumper must be cut the lip must be cut then molded.

[vegeta4ss]

so the lip is too wide? that's the purpose for the molding? Or is the reason for molding simply that there's just no good way to attach it? <- if that's the case then I would think a series of slotted cuts and brackets would allow you to push the mounting points on the new lip to the inside. A diagram would definitely make this make sense better so i'll try to work on that soon.

[Extreme Dimensions]

As much as I would like to answer these questions for you, I'm not too familiar with this modification to answer them. I know Frost works 2nd shift so he usually chimes in pretty late.

-Ken

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

This LIP is not something you can just buy online and place on the car and your done. The bumper will need to be trimmed cut in a section. And then the lip will have to be molded to give it then uniform stock look. Thats why Ken from extreme dimensions said that this is a full front bumper replacement. As for the people saying that having authentic sides and rear really is someone really gonna know except for the grill peices? Im gonna make sure the fitment on the first bumper is 100 percent just as good as your authentic bumper.

[breakablecookie]

I agree that it should be sold as a complete bumper not a lip kit so that anybody can have access to it not just a select few

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

This bumper is looking promising alot of people like it

[broderp]

It has come to my attention that trd front bumper on the celica sits way to high and doesnt flow with the kit . I was thinking about retrofitting the trd front bumper as the picture below . I would like everyones input on this weather this would be a possible good alternative and if celica owners would actually buy this bumper modified like this.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/Frost7177/1-5-08_celica_cruise_010-1.jpg

The yellow celica is a stock trd front
The Silver Celica has a modified trd front

The TRD bumper is fine as is. Its a matter of opinion that it "sits too high" THAT silver bumper would not go well unless you have different side skirts. OEM sides would look way out of place. It looks "heavy" and "bulbous". Once you start adding all that more plastic to the car it starts to look "ricey" (Another opinion)

How many people gonna be happy and want to spend that kind of cash for an entire kit once they realize the OEM side look like crap with that bumper?


Not me. :thumbdown

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

If you look at the bumper now it actually lines up perfectly with the side skirts. Maybe you dont like it know but i know when people hated the 03 front and the 03 tails back in the day all it takes is on car and people will go nuts.;)

Will see what people think I do this Im sure extreme dimensions will other 2 different action package body kits one with the lip molded and one without along w the entire kit or could sell seperatley.

[Extreme Dimensions]

The 2 different peices is something we can definitely look into but in order to do so, we would need two peices to work from. One complete and one lip only.

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

If were talking about an entirely different lip than the one in the pic yes. But like ive said before this LIP will not fit no way no how without cutting the stock TRD BUMPER!

[Extreme Dimensions]

Just thought I would drop in and see how things were going. Frost, contact me, I have something you may be interested in!

-Ken

[Zero]

But like ive said before this LIP will not fit no way no how without cutting the stock TRD BUMPER! As does the one in the picture you posted or the others that a few have done.

We're not talking about garage liners being stuck onto the bottoms of bumpers - this is "go big or go home."

I am glad to see someone else getting involved. Way too late in the Celica game, but always nice to see new ideas (that are clean - I don't care for ricer shet. :laugh: )

Can't wait for updates.

[Zero]

Maybe you dont like it know but i know when people hated the 03 front and the 03 tails back in the day all it takes is on car and people will go nuts.:werd:
(I still don't like a stock 03+ front, it has to have a lip)

Back in the days, the 03+ tails were too pink, too gay. The 03+ front was ugly because it was too "sharp" compared to the softness of the -02 front.

[Zero]

once they realize the OEM side look like crapI was never a fan of TRD or Wings West sides. The rear section on it flares way too much.

[horty222]

bring back from the dead. Since im working on a dinged up TRD front I decided to give the Type R lip a try. Just bought it, i will update later next week when I get it.

[Zero]

Thanks Horty. You bumped up a thread that two lazy ass people could not take the time to search for. It's been quite some time since they bumped that thread asking for a thread like this!

:laugh:

So I take it that this idea was flushed down the drain?

[horty222]

Yeah I guess it died when people where asking for a complete bumper vs lip.

[ateens4]

good job horty, love the type r lip. which car is the type lip suppose to be from?

[horty222]

99-00 type -r

[Danny_GTS]

Wait a sec. I'm confused, There have been no updates. Is extreme dimensions still working on the trd with the lip or not?

[horty222]

As far as I know no.

[MrTechGuy]

why not make a Tsunami front bumper

[horty222]

Well i got the front lip in today. I dont know if its the correct one. It does not wrap all the way around the TRD front. it is the 99-00 civic type r front. Maybe I got the wrong year or needs major modding to get it to fit and flow correctly. If anyone has any info on this let me know. ill sleep on it till the weekend before ill mess with it.

[Joey03_VVT-I]

:wtf:

[horty222]

:shrugs:

[horty222]

Here are some more pics of that lip.
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/lip3.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/lip2.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/lip1.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/lip4.jpg

[horty222]

The bottom center looks like its for sure cut out.
looked up the Showorx but its an old Myspace page.
Anyone know the guy in the pic?

[Zero]

We voted against that lip. It looks great from the sides but a direct view of it reveals how ugly it makes the front look. :chuckles:

Someone posted a direct front shot of it before.

[horty222]

so like I said the lip does not reach from end to end. So some fabrication will have to be made. Basically either cutting it half in a way that the lines have some flow. which will make the lip come from the sides countouring into the middle. Or getting more material, cut in half and extend it to reach all the way around. Last option is FORGET it and scrap the idea. here are some pics of the potential. What do you all think?
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2101.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2100.jpg

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2102.jpg

[horty222]

For anyone that would like to put this on the 00-02 front it fits all the way around. Still would have to fab someway to mount it. LORD FUSOR!!!!!
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2094.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2096.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2097.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2098.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2099.jpg

[trd_gts]

wow it looks pretty good on the 00-02 bumper, good alternative lip.

[2NDchnceCELI]

THANK YOU!! thats exactly what i was looking for on my 00 front! im gonna

now i wonder if this will fit a 03+ front.... 98-01 USDM type R lip

[StrikerFury]

How hard would it be to fab some sort of way to connect it to an 00-02 bumper?

00-02 bumpers lack lips

[2NDchnceCELI]

How hard would it be to fab some sort of way to connect it to an 00-02 bumper?

00-02 bumpers lack lips

U found them for as cheap as 180 shipped in polyurethane

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[StrikerFury]

It's an 99-00 Civic "Type R" lip right? On ebay they're like 40ish bucks ship for urethane. Might be a nice cheap alternative for 00-02 lips

[2NDchnceCELI]

http://turtlespeedshop.3dcartstores.com/99-00-Honda-Civic-Type-R-Style-Front-Lip-Polyurethane_p_840.html

yeah and the other one looks like itll fit the 03+ from the integra type r

[Zero]

Oh hoh! That is a great find, Horty! I didn't even think about fitting it onto an -02 bumper.
Clean.

[2NDchnceCELI]

Oh hoh! That is a great find, Horty! I didn't even think about fitting it onto an -02 bumper.
Clean.

The 98-01 teg usdm type r maybe fits the 03 bumper

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[boothten]

I'd have to see it painted, but I don't really think I like it...

[horty222]

Oh hoh! That is a great find, Horty! I didn't even think about fitting it onto an -02 bumper.
Clean.
__________________

Every time I see the Varis front im like THATS WHAT I WANT. best front EVER!!

It's an 99-00 Civic "Type R" lip right? On ebay they're like 40ish bucks ship for urethane. Might be a nice cheap alternative for 00-02 lips

Tha is correct $40 shipped.

How hard would it be to fab some sort of way to connect it to an 00-02 bumper?

Lord Fusor.com

[Zero]

I thought about adding that lip to my varis front bumper, but I ended up selling the kit.

[brianv3ntura]

For anyone that would like to put this on the 00-02 front it fits all the way around. Still would have to fab someway to mount it. LORD FUSOR!!!!!
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2094.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2096.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2097.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2098.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Horty24/TRD%20BUMPER/100_2099.jpg

more pics of front lip on a stock bumper if possible =)

[horty222]

No can do. I cut it in half for the TRD front, still long project down the road.

[mrfunny107]

would it be practical on the street??? I for see lots of lip rubbing the ground in the future.

[TRlPPlN]

i actually like how the lip looks on that 00-02 bumper. molding that to the bumper should be easy.

[Klint]

I like that one too.

[mkyEND]

Wow, I need that ASAP!

[Morbidceli]

Already looking to buy this lip for my 00 bumper. :eek:

[Morbidceli]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/Pootrox/IMG00310-20110712-1747.jpg

Well there's the lip, just thought I would post pictures.

[horty222]

Definetly need to fix the sides by the turn signals. Im sure youre not done right

[Morbidceli]

Yeah I am going back to make those sides stick, It really bugs me to see that gap every time I pass in front

[lajlijthoj]

Hmm. If I read correctly, and from the previous comments; the Mugen front lip from a Civic would look better IMO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/99-00-honda-Civic-MUGEN-Front-bumper-Lip-PU-kit-2Drs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZYearQ3a2000Q7cModelQ3aCivi cQQhashZitem1c1bd8367eQQitemZ120726238846QQptZMoto rsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Or as we seen the silver Celica with an RSX type R front lip.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RSX-DC-DC5-R-TYPE-PU-FRONT-BUMPER-SPOILER-BODY-KIT-LIP-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZModelQ3aRSXQQhashZitem588e d2187bQQitemZ380353255547QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruck Q5fPartsQ5fAccessories

With little modifications I think these lips would look better than the Civic Type R front lip. But if I did read wrong, and it was another lip customed, my bad.

[yzrider07]

So what exactly did you guys use to mold it on? Im picking up an 00-02 front and I was gna do this

[Morbidceli]

Well the one I bought off ebay does Not have any predrilled holes and didn't come with any hardware or installation instructions. Not sure if the other ones do but I had to drill holes into it I need to look into that lord fusor stuff.

[lajlijthoj]

Can anybody confirm that the USDM Integra Type R front lip will fit the 03+ front bumper? Tomorrow I'm going to test out the Civic Mugen from my friends hatch and will post pictures for the 00-02.