BRAK
07-17-2002, 06:56 PM
OK First of all ALL 02 OWNERS TO CALL AND GIVE THERE COMPLAINT NUMBER ON THIS THREAD ASAP!
Call 1-800-331-4331 AND GO BY THIS THREAD MADE BY GRIFFIN, i used it to further describe on the phone the situation.
Request:
I'd like to request that Toyota please fix a problem with the rev-limiter for my 2002 Celica.
quote:
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Decription:
In the 2000 and 2001 Celica the rev limiter (which is the point at which the ECM cuts off fuel) would stop the engine at 8400 RPM. For 2002 that changed without warning. According to Toyota's comments to Car and Driver in teh August issue, this was soen with out TMS consent and the Rev limiter is being re-instated for 2003. Which leaves me with a few problems:
1 - My brand new 2002 is a slower and worse preforming car than the 2000 and 2001 models
2 - the Value of my car when I go to sell it is going to be impacted by this issue. Why would anyone want to buy MY car when they could have an 00 01 or 03 with the "good" rev limiter. This will mean I will have to discount the price of my Celica and take a hit on the price when I go to sell it.
3 - The fact that Toyota now knows it sold sub-par vehicles to many 2002 owners gives you a change to make up for your mistakes. Please produce a new engine computer to bring back the old rev limiter and restore our lost performance. If you don't there are a lot of 2002 owvers that will probably be looking outside the Toyota Car line for their next purchase.
anyways thats just a starting point - feel free to add or refine it. The main thing is that we have to be sure they understand the request and that the words we use (like rev limiter) are consistent.
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I had to put it easyer terms for him but he got the idea , Btw he also said this isnt right for them to do this. I also explained that the 03 will have the 8400 RPM fuel cuttoff <---- this Definatly makes us the black sheep of the years!!!!! Describe that!
I told him to be ready for a whole lot of peeps to call up ther about the 02 fuel cuttoff! He said if we get Numerous amount of calls TOYOTA HAS to respond with the FIX!
I WANT peeps 2000 2001 2002 ALL TO CALL TOYOTA Talk to this Clint guy ....... thats who i talked to (usually men can relate to our anger about this than women)
After you call the # POST UP YOUR COMPLAINT #
Mine is #2002 07170230
MAKE THIS A STICKY!!!!!!!!!! ..... COMMON PEEPS WE CAN DO IT (aka the waterboy)
I posted this exact same post with a differant title ... this title would grab more people in PLEASE MAKE THIS A STICKY .. already got 3 peeps to call since noon on the 17th
Call 1-800-331-4331 AND GO BY THIS THREAD MADE BY GRIFFIN, i used it to further describe on the phone the situation.
Request:
I'd like to request that Toyota please fix a problem with the rev-limiter for my 2002 Celica.
quote:
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Decription:
In the 2000 and 2001 Celica the rev limiter (which is the point at which the ECM cuts off fuel) would stop the engine at 8400 RPM. For 2002 that changed without warning. According to Toyota's comments to Car and Driver in teh August issue, this was soen with out TMS consent and the Rev limiter is being re-instated for 2003. Which leaves me with a few problems:
1 - My brand new 2002 is a slower and worse preforming car than the 2000 and 2001 models
2 - the Value of my car when I go to sell it is going to be impacted by this issue. Why would anyone want to buy MY car when they could have an 00 01 or 03 with the "good" rev limiter. This will mean I will have to discount the price of my Celica and take a hit on the price when I go to sell it.
3 - The fact that Toyota now knows it sold sub-par vehicles to many 2002 owners gives you a change to make up for your mistakes. Please produce a new engine computer to bring back the old rev limiter and restore our lost performance. If you don't there are a lot of 2002 owvers that will probably be looking outside the Toyota Car line for their next purchase.
anyways thats just a starting point - feel free to add or refine it. The main thing is that we have to be sure they understand the request and that the words we use (like rev limiter) are consistent.
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I had to put it easyer terms for him but he got the idea , Btw he also said this isnt right for them to do this. I also explained that the 03 will have the 8400 RPM fuel cuttoff <---- this Definatly makes us the black sheep of the years!!!!! Describe that!
I told him to be ready for a whole lot of peeps to call up ther about the 02 fuel cuttoff! He said if we get Numerous amount of calls TOYOTA HAS to respond with the FIX!
I WANT peeps 2000 2001 2002 ALL TO CALL TOYOTA Talk to this Clint guy ....... thats who i talked to (usually men can relate to our anger about this than women)
After you call the # POST UP YOUR COMPLAINT #
Mine is #2002 07170230
MAKE THIS A STICKY!!!!!!!!!! ..... COMMON PEEPS WE CAN DO IT (aka the waterboy)
I posted this exact same post with a differant title ... this title would grab more people in PLEASE MAKE THIS A STICKY .. already got 3 peeps to call since noon on the 17th