Pullover Survival Tips

[Iwritetickets]

As some of you know, yes I am a police officer. My city is too busy to pull over cars for stupid violations unless we know you're a thug who is around guns or driving w/o a license or drugs then we will because 9 out of 10 times you get something good. But besides that, I can share with you good ways to get out of a ticket. Now first and foremost activities done by an officer for most situations is done by discretion. Especially traffic stops. That means an officer doesn't have to give you anything.

1. Don't ask why you were pulled over until you give an officer your documents. (personally that bothers me because some people know they did something wrong and they aren't totally legit. So they try to argue their way out.)

2. After the officer tells you why you were stopped, don't try to argue, or justify it. (Now you're calling him a liar and whether he is or isn't you're giving him a reason to go further)

3. Be polite and answer anything honestly. Just be yourself. ( Believe it or not when some people are very nervous they have something to hide. I got a few illegal guns and drugs that way.)

4. If you get a ticket don't argue it. Plead not guilty. Argue it then. A lot of times judges will be lenient. Especially if you get a charge that carries points, you almost always get the points withdrawn.

Remember Honesty and don't be a dick. Most won't be a dick to you and if he is just fight him a court. Chances are he may not even show up especially if not paid OT on a day off. ;)

All an officer needs to stop a vehicle probable cause. Maybe this will explain some of the dumb ass reasons you get pulled over. Believe it or not just about anything you change on your vehicle is PC. Hell even a vehicle brand new off of the lot has PC. So keep that in mind. Be safe and hope my tips help you if need be. Any questions feel free to post.

[TRDChamp]

What if an officer doesn't give you a reason for pulling you over and just simply asks for your license and registration and then tells you to go once he checks them?

[Klint]

Hell even a vehicle brand new off of the lot has PC. .

how? No license plate?

[Iwritetickets]

misread TRD Champs Question answered it in another post. Sorry bout that.

[Iwritetickets]

how? No license plate?

In PA's vehicle code we have ton of **** that counts as PC for a car. Including up to the plate. I'm not one to do it but yes even the vehicles equipment counts. Example most vehicles are coming stock with HID headlights which is PC but if you think about it, who the hell is gonna modify a law every time manufacturers decide to make something new to a vehicle.

[Iwritetickets]

What if an officer doesn't give you a reason for pulling you over and just simply asks for your license and registration and then tells you to go once he checks them?

Don't worry about it. But future referrence once you give your documents, you do have a right to ask why you were pulled over. Just ask afterward so they can't ever say you were being argumentive or uncooperative.

[Klint]

what about the mods on your car?

[Iwritetickets]

PC all day. Like I say it's a reason to get pulled over. What happens after you're pulled over is on you. My car has hella PC and truthfully just because I'm a cop some place does not stop me from getting a ticket. Would I write another officer, No but there are some who would.. NJ state troopers:wtf:

Ask Hulkster, I bitched about that at his house when I went over there.

[TRDChamp]

Don't worry about it. But future referrence once you give your documents, you do have a right to ask why you were pulled over. Just ask afterward so they can't ever say you were being argumentive or uncooperative.
Oh I see, I was asking because my Mother got pulled over a few days ago and the officer didn't state a reason and she didn't know whether it was ok to ask. The one time I got pulled over the officer stated the reason why as soon as he gave me back my documents so I didn't have any problems. Thanks!

[Iwritetickets]

no prob

[2KGTrd]

what is the discretion with marking up tickets?

I was stopped for "Failure to yield to a red light" while turning right on a yellow, or orange as the sargeant called it.
As i turned the light went red and he pulled me over for running a red.
The maximum fine was $214 and he marked it up to $250... Is this legal?

[Iwritetickets]

with the added cost yes. In PA we have like 4 cost. Example driving with no license is $200 our 4 cost are court which is 34.50 EMS which is $30 Some bullsh!t fund which is $10, and another BS cost called JTCat which is also $10 making your ticket a Grand total of $284.50

That ticket you got I hope you fought because a red light is almost always points. You have to be careful with the changing yellow. Technically I can cite you for a red if you were in the intersection as the light changed. Basically it's because the light was yellow well before you even made it to the intersection and you had to speed up to make it. The Yellow means slow down. :)

[hulkster]

Ask Hulkster, I bitched about that at his house when I went over there.

:wave:me and my gf were asking him a bunch of questions last week.he found a mistake in her police report from accident and we had it changed.so hes our go to guy now :)

[Iwritetickets]

:wave:me and my gf were asking him a bunch of questions last week.he found a mistake in her police report from accident and we had it changed.so hes our go to guy now :)

Is that good or bad. :D

[2KGTrd]

That ticket you got I hope you fought because a red light is almost always points. You have to be careful with the changing yellow. Technically I can cite you for a red if you were in the intersection as the light changed. Basically it's because the light was yellow well before you even made it to the intersection and you had to speed up to make it. The Yellow means slow down.

I havent fought it yet, but i'm considering it. Three points on my liscense and they can be taken off with a driver course.
The only reason I debated not going to court is because the fees might exceed the cost of the ticket...

edit: and on the printed citation he actually marked out by hand the $214 maximum fine and wrote $249 next to it in pen...such crap.
he repeatively accused me of being drunk and stoned as well...

[kb2wji]

What if an officer doesn't give you a reason for pulling you over and just simply asks for your license and registration and then tells you to go once he checks them?

Then quit torturing yourself about why you were stopped and just smile and drive away - - ticket free :gap:


Also, an officer can stop you for "reasonable suspicion". Reasonable suspicion is an easier standard to reach than probable cause. Reasonable suspicion is all that is needed to stop a vehicle. I wont waste space going over the legal differences, but theres plenty of info if you google it.

[TRDChamp]

If it was me, I wouldn't have a problem with it lol, but if you re-read my post it wasn't.
Then quit torturing yourself about why you were stopped and just smile and drive away - - ticket free :gap:


Also, an officer can stop you for "reasonable suspicion". Reasonable suspicion is an easier standard to reach than probable cause. Reasonable suspicion is all that is needed to stop a vehicle. I wont waste space going over the legal differences, but theres plenty of info if you google it.

[Iwritetickets]

Well reasonable suspicion is what I use for thugs. Don't need to use that for the average person.

I havent fought it yet, but i'm considering it. Three points on my liscense and they can be taken off with a driver course.
The only reason I debated not going to court is because the fees might exceed the cost of the ticket...

edit: and on the printed citation he actually marked out by hand the $214 maximum fine and wrote $249 next to it in pen...such crap.
he repeatively accused me of being drunk and stoned as well...

drivers course cost much more than court cost to rid yourself of points. I wouldn't take a driver course unless ordered, fight it.

As far as the citation maybe the price changed? If you have questions about it, then again, fight it. Let the judge see it. Honestly the money goes to the court anyway nt the cop. Your state will not allow you to overpay so you're good.

As far as you being drunk or high, were you arrested and taken for a breathalyzer and or blood test? If not don't worry about it. Those results are the only 2 things that stand in court. Not just theofficers word that you have red eyes etc.

[DD'00GT]

I can completely understand TRDChamps first post...cops over here are crazy

I got pulled over a few years ago here in MD, and the cop stormed up to my window, demanded my papers, and asked me how fast I was going...I told him 25 (which I was), and he said "exactly, I clocked you at 24...and do you know what the speed limit is?"...to which I replied "the sign said 25" and he replies "that's correct"...at which point he hands me back my papers and said "I'm going to let you go with just a verbal warning"...I asked him "why am I was getting a warning if I haven't broken the law?"...he just stared blankly and told me to drive safe and have a good night...WTF?

Break that one down for me IWriteTickets?

[TRDChamp]

I can completely understand TRDChamps first post...cops over here are crazy

I got pulled over a few years ago here in MD, and the cop stormed up to my window, demanded my papers, and asked me how fast I was going...I told him 25 (which I was), and he said "exactly, I clocked you at 24...and do you know what the speed limit is?"...to which I replied "the sign said 25" and he replies "that's correct"...at which point he hands me back my papers and said "I'm going to let you go with just a verbal warning"...I asked him "why am I was getting a warning if I haven't broken the law?"...he just stared blankly and told me to drive safe and have a good night...WTF?

Break that one down for me IWriteTickets?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12CDQ5UlLGU

:chuckles:

[R I C H I E]

Is there a way to fight a ticket if the cop got you on radar and on the ticket shows his gun # and etc. ?
.....I still doubt to myself I was going 82 on a on-ramp, my celi is slow as fvck lol

[2KGTrd]

drivers course cost much more than court cost to rid yourself of points. I wouldn't take a driver course unless ordered, fight it.

As far as the citation maybe the price changed? If you have questions about it, then again, fight it. Let the judge see it. Honestly the money goes to the court anyway nt the cop. Your state will not allow you to overpay so you're good.

As far as you being drunk or high, were you arrested and taken for a breathalyzer and

I wasnt asked to take a breathalizer i think the cop was just instigating.
As far as court goes what do i do? I've never had a ticket nor challenged one before so give me a clue as to what to do and expect.

[Iwritetickets]

I wasnt asked to take a breathalizer i think the cop was just instigating.
As far as court goes what do i do? I've never had a ticket nor challenged one before so give me a clue as to what to do and expect.

Well then don't worry about the being drunkoned part.

In court you are asked how do you plead..... Not guilty of course. Then explain your side. If officer is there he explains his. If carries points most likely they will be tossed requires you something to get rid of them but the judge will explain. Make sure you bring money to pay if you still get the fine and ask for a payment plan if needed.:gap:

I can completely understand TRDChamps first post...cops over here are crazy

I got pulled over a few years ago here in MD, and the cop stormed up to my window, demanded my papers, and asked me how fast I was going...I told him 25 (which I was), and he said "exactly, I clocked you at 24...and do you know what the speed limit is?"...to which I replied "the sign said 25" and he replies "that's correct"...at which point he hands me back my papers and said "I'm going to let you go with just a verbal warning"...I asked him "why am I was getting a warning if I haven't broken the law?"...he just stared blankly and told me to drive safe and have a good night...WTF?

Break that one down for me IWriteTickets?

Same thing I told the other TRDChamp, why worry about it if you didn't get a ticket. All it takes is reasonable suspicion to stop a vehicle and if you had mods that was enough to stop you. Also unless he was a state trooper he didn't have radar anyway. BTW You're state troopers have those funny ass hats. I like driving through MD seeing that hat.

Is there a way to fight a ticket if the cop got you on radar and on the ticket shows his gun # and etc. ?
.....I still doubt to myself I was going 82 on a on-ramp, my celi is slow as fvck lol

Fight it and raise the question of when the last time radar has been calibrated. Most radar have to be calibrated monthly I think. I don't know cause I don't have it. Only State Troopers have radar in most states. Also Theres tricks you can do with radar so I'd contest it anyway because it may not have been you that was going 82 Also there is tricks that can be done with radar. Those tricks I cannot disclose on this board.;)

[GSBoek]

Can I write you a ticket for the carbon fiber hood and fenders? I need them. :D

[DD'00GT]

Same thing I told the other TRDChamp, why worry about it if you didn't get a ticket. All it takes is reasonable suspicion to stop a vehicle and if you had mods that was enough to stop you. Also unless he was a state trooper he didn't have radar anyway. BTW You're state troopers have those funny ass hats. I like driving through MD seeing that hat.

Yeah, those hats are funny as hell...plus they have to be wearing them or you can slam them for being out of uniform...lol

And yes, it was a state trooper that pulled me over, but I was in a bone stock corolla without any visual problems...I honestly think he and his partner were just bored.

[smart_rocket]

As some of you know, yes I am a police officer. My city is too busy to pull over cars for stupid violations unless we know you're a thug who is around guns or driving w/o a license or drugs then we will because 9 out of 10 times you get something good. But besides that, I can share with you good ways to get out of a ticket. Now first and foremost activities done by an officer for most situations is done by discretion. Especially traffic stops. That means an officer doesn't have to give you anything.

1. Don't ask why you were pulled over until you give an officer your documents. (personally that bothers me because some people know they did something wrong and they aren't totally legit. So they try to argue their way out.)

2. After the officer tells you why you were stopped, don't try to argue, or justify it. (Now you're calling him a liar and whether he is or isn't you're giving him a reason to go further)

3. Be polite and answer anything honestly. Just be yourself. ( Believe it or not when some people are very nervous they have something to hide. I got a few illegal guns and drugs that way.)

4. If you get a ticket don't argue it. Plead not guilty. Argue it then. A lot of times judges will be lenient. Especially if you get a charge that carries points, you almost always get the points withdrawn.

Remember Honesty and don't be a dick. Most won't be a dick to you and if he is just fight him a court. Chances are he may not even show up especially if not paid OT on a day off. ;)

All an officer needs to stop a vehicle probable cause. Maybe this will explain some of the dumb ass reasons you get pulled over. Believe it or not just about anything you change on your vehicle is PC. Hell even a vehicle brand new off of the lot has PC. So keep that in mind. Be safe and hope my tips help you if need be. Any questions feel free to post.

I'd prefer to read some "Pullover Survival Tips" from a lawyer. Although, cool story bro' ...

[Iwritetickets]

I'd prefer to read some "Pullover Survival Tips" from a lawyer. Although, cool story bro' ...

Thats fine you can read them from who u want but I was giving from a police officers point of view. So good luck with your street racing ensemble you're dealing with.:blah:

[Iwritetickets]

Can I write you a ticket for the carbon fiber hood and fenders? I need them. :D

Sure that doesn't mean you'll get them.:gap:

[Iwritetickets]

Yeah, those hats are funny as hell...plus they have to be wearing them or you can slam them for being out of uniform...lol

And yes, it was a state trooper that pulled me over, but I was in a bone stock corolla without any visual problems...I honestly think he and his partner were just bored.

Probably and noticed a young guy driving it. And the hat thing is a myth. Doesn't matter unless theres a supervisor around. MSP has bad ass cars though. The colors is hard to spot at night.

[creekboi7]

does the radar thing apply to cops in florida? whther they have one or just the troopers?

[DD'00GT]

Yeah MSP have the most inconspicuous cars ever...its absolutely absurd. They are like ninja police...and now they have black stock looking chargers too :AF:

[Iwritetickets]

does the radar thing apply to cops in florida? whther they have one or just the troopers?

Unsure but most likely yes. I've only seen Troopers in any state carry radar. Most departments if they have anything, they have VASCAR which is a device that calculates time x distance which equals speed. Tip if you seen 2 lines on the ground a small distance apart, thats usually where they set traps at.

[Iwritetickets]

Yeah MSP have the most inconspicuous cars ever...its absolutely absurd. They are like ninja police...and now they have black stock looking chargers too :AF:

Hell I think Virginia State Police has all black. Even worse than the black and brown of MD.

And as far as hats go, our State Police wear the Smokey the Bear hat. I actually was in court with one of my friends who is a PSP. He got pissed when I put his hat on and said "Only You Can Prevent Fires.":chiglaugh

[Proximity]

Also Theres tricks you can do with radar so I'd contest it anyway because it may not have been you that was going 82 Also there is tricks that can be done with radar. Those tricks I cannot disclose on this board.;)

Tricks that accomplish what?

[Iwritetickets]

Tricks that accomplish what?

Catching a car and never being seen. Even around corners. Well before you reach the trooper.

[DD'00GT]

Hell I think Virginia State Police has all black. Even worse than the black and brown of MD.

And as far as hats go, our State Police wear the Smokey the Bear hat. I actually was in court with one of my friends who is a PSP. He got pissed when I put his hat on and said "Only You Can Prevent Fires.":chiglaugh

Woah woah woah...MD Staties cars are green and blackish brown...sh!t blends in like no other states cars...trust me

[celica760]

how about being accused of running a stop sign, I didnt, might have not stop completely for an amount of time, is there a minumum time? Thats the only infraction, even thought I have tinted windows and no license plate. Im in CA. any help would be appreciated.

[Iwritetickets]

Woah woah woah...MD Staties cars are green and blackish brown...sh!t blends in like no other states cars...trust me

I thought the cars were black and brown. Either way they are cool and stealthy on I95 late night.

[Iwritetickets]

how about being accused of running a stop sign, I didnt, might have not stop completely for an amount of time, is there a minumum time? Thats the only infraction, even thought I have tinted windows and no license plate. Im in CA. any help would be appreciated.

in most states an actual stop is 3 seconds. Stop signs carry points depending how its written. In PA we have 3111 which is Failure Obedience to Traffic Controls. That means you didn't follow a trter it be speed limit, stop, yield sign, etc. That is a general charge and carries no points and getting that if you missed a stop or was caught speeding is a break. Then we have 3112 Which is DUties at Stop Sign. 3 points. I'll give that to someone who is a argumentive dick.

[celica760]

Ill just wait for the mail citation to come back and see what up, then Ill come back with more questions. thanks

[Iwritetickets]

how about being accused of running a stop sign, I didnt, might have not stop completely for an amount of time, is there a minumum time? Thats the only infraction, even thought I have tinted windows and no license plate. Im in CA. any help would be appreciated.

in most states an actual stop is 3 seconds. Stop signs carry points depending how its written. In PA we have 3111 which is Failure Obedience to Traffic Controls. For Example That means you didn't follow a traffic signal whether it be speed limit, stop, yield sign, etc. That is a general charge and carries no points and getting that if you missed a stop or was caught speeding is a break. Then we have 3112 Which is Duties at Stop Sign. 3 points. I'll give that to someone who is a argumentive dick.

Basically With no front plate and tints and all he gave you was a Stop sign ticket you got a serious break. But find out if yours carries points and if so Contest it.

[Iwritetickets]

Ill just wait for the mail citation to come back and see what up, then Ill come back with more questions. thanks

No problem.

[kb2wji]

Catching a car and never being seen. Even around corners. Well before you reach the trooper.

So you are going to clock a car, and use that reading, without seeing the car. Reasonable suspicion for thugs, probable cause for everyone else? Are you for real? I smell a troll.

[Iwritetickets]

So you are going to clock a car, and use that reading, without seeing the car. Reasonable suspicion for thugs, probable cause for everyone else? Are you for real? I smell a troll.

If you read and remember I said these are the thingPolice officers do as to why u get pulled over. I never said thats what I do

The radar trick I don't do it cause Im not a trooper nor do I carry radar plus I didn't say the trooper didn't see the approaching car. I said the approaching car never sees the trooper. PC is for all, Reasonable suspicion is minimum which at certain times thats what u need. For your info I stopped a guy who was in a neighborhood he didn't belong in. His neighborhood was beefing the one I stopped him in. During the stop a gun was discovered in his vehicle during an inventory search because he had no license. So my Reasonable Suspicion may have stopped a shooting. Next time you reply to something at least read the details and another thing I can prove mine. Thanks for your concern of others.:blah:

['01gtcelica]

alright so long story short, i got a racing on highway ticket, which got dropped to a careless driving ticket, so i currently have 2 points on my license. and whenever i get stopped the officer always asks me if i have any points on my license, and for what. and i always feel like telling him that i had a racing on highway ticket and got it dropped etc. is going to make him be less lenient with me or something like that. so, would it be smarter to keep tell an officers the truth, or maybe give them a different story?

[kb2wji]

If you read and remember I said these are the thingPolice officers do as to why u get pulled over. I never said thats what I do

The radar trick I don't do it cause Im not a trooper nor do I carry radar plus I didn't say the trooper didn't see the approaching car. I said the approaching car never sees the trooper. PC is for all, Reasonable suspicion is minimum which at certain times thats what u need. For your info I stopped a guy who was in a neighborhood he didn't belong in. His neighborhood was beefing the one I stopped him in. During the stop a gun was discovered in his vehicle during an inventory search because he had no license. So my Reasonable Suspicion may have stopped a shooting. Next time you reply to something at least read the details and another thing I can prove mine. Thanks for your concern of others.:blah:

You are clear that the Supreme Court has ruled a vehicle search such as you describe is unconstitutional, right? Driver not having a license is not probable cause for a search. The new case law states that you can only search a vehicle within the scope of the occupanats reach, for something related to the reason for the stop. It's illegal to search a vehicle because the driver is not licensed. Now if you were going to tow the vehicle, you can "inventory" it. The new case law is also very specific as to what you can look for / look into.

Be careful what you say on public forums such as this. You have already stated blatantly that you use different standards of suspicion for stopping different cars / drivers. God forbid an overpriced attorney starts to dig a little and find what you have written.

Just be careful, thats all i'm saying.

[Iwritetickets]

You are clear that the Supreme Court has ruled a vehicle search such as you describe is unconstitutional, right? Driver not having a license is not probable cause for a search. The new case law states that you can only search a vehicle within the scope of the occupanats reach, for something related to the reason for the stop. It's illegal to search a vehicle because the driver is not licensed. Now if you were going to tow the vehicle, you can "inventory" it. The new case law is also very specific as to what you can look for / look into.

Be careful what you say on public forums such as this. You have already stated blatantly that you use different standards of suspicion for stopping different cars / drivers. God forbid an overpriced attorney starts to dig a little and find what you have written.

Just be careful, thats all i'm saying.


Exactly but I said in certain situations it is safe to use reasonable suspicion which then can be followed by probable cause. I know all that that you typed man. What I was saying to you was check the details of what I said then if I left something out I do go back and correct it. I never inventory a vehicle unless it's getting towed hence what you do if the driver is suspended. Thanks for your input. :)

[Iwritetickets]

alright so long story short, i got a racing on highway ticket, which got dropped to a careless driving ticket, so i currently have 2 points on my license. and whenever i get stopped the officer always asks me if i have any points on my license, and for what. and i always feel like telling him that i had a racing on highway ticket and got it dropped etc. is going to make him be less lenient with me or something like that. so, would it be smarter to keep tell an officers the truth, or maybe give them a different story?

You can answer honestly because some try to cut you a break unless you did something blatantly stupid. So yea answer honestly. Me if I ask you and you did something small I may just let u go or write you a general charge so u won't get any points.

[Boosted2.0]

I would add a few tips for getting pulled over:

1 - Roll your windows down on both sides
2 - Turn on interior lights if it is night time
3 - turn your car off and put the keys up on the dash where the officer can see them
4 - put your hands up on the steering wheel where they are clearly visible

These things are not necessary, but they will help put the officer at ease as he will know there is no immediate threat and he will be able to easily look into the vehicle.

[Iwritetickets]

I would add a few tips for getting pulled over:

1 - Roll your windows down on both sides
2 - Turn on interior lights if it is night time
3 - turn your car off and put the keys up on the dash where the officer can see them
4 - put your hands up on the steering wheel where they are clearly visible

These things are not necessary, but they will help put the officer at ease as he will know there is no immediate threat and he will be able to easily look into the vehicle.

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1 - Roll your windows down on both sides -Only really necessary for dark tint.

[Boosted2.0]

x 2

1 - Roll your windows down on both sides -Only really necessary for dark tint.

Actually I do that so they can choose which side to approach on. I get pulled over and released a bunch because I run dealer plates and they don't come up as registered to a particular car. I've noticed some officers like drivers side and some like passenger side, so I generally roll down both.

[TRDChamp]

x 2

1 - Roll your windows down on both sides -Only really necessary for dark tint.
Speaking of tints, how do you guys usually handle that? Will you pull someone over just for tints, or do you only check for them if you pulled someone over for another infraction (ie. speeding, etc)? How well does the "it came like that from the factory/dealer" line work? :chuckles:

[kb2wji]

Speaking of tints, how do you guys usually handle that? Will you pull someone over just for tints, or do you only check for them if you pulled someone over for another infraction (ie. speeding, etc)? How well does the "it came like that from the factory/dealer" line work? :chuckles:

In alot of states, window tint alone is not a "class 1" offense. Meaning, you cant be stopped for that offense alone, although it can be investigated once you stop the car for something else. (City tax stickers that are expired, and similar offenses, are class 2. Since you dont already know that the owner of the car just moved outside the city limits, you cant stop for that reason alone. Just an example) In other states, you can stop for tint alone. In a busier city, window tint can easily be used as an excuse to stop a car that you already wanted to stop for "other" reasons. In "slower" cities, cops have nothing better to do other than write tickets....so yea, tint will more likely get you a ticket.

[Iwritetickets]

In alot of states, window tint alone is not a "class 1" offense. Meaning, you cant be stopped for that offense alone, although it can be investigated once you stop the car for something else. (City tax stickers that are expired, and similar offenses, are class 2. Since you dont already know that the owner of the car just moved outside the city limits, you cant stop for that reason alone. Just an example) In other states, you can stop for tint alone. In a busier city, window tint can easily be used as an excuse to stop a car that you already wanted to stop for "other" reasons. In "slower" cities, cops have nothing better to do other than write tickets....so yea, tint will more likely get you a ticket.

This is true. You can use this for PC to stop but in my state which is PA I can't site you for that without any other infraction. BUt as far as this goes I can't speak for any other state.

[Iwritetickets]

Actually I do that so they can choose which side to approach on. I get pulled over and released a bunch because I run dealer plates and they don't come up as registered to a particular car. I've noticed some officers like drivers side and some like passenger side, so I generally roll down both.

TRUE. :) Passenger side throws a lot of people off. Especially someone that you know is a dirt bag.

[TRDChamp]

So I got pulled over tonight on my way back from work. 2 ****ing streets away from my place. :bang:

I turned off the car, rolled my window down, and put my hands on the steering wheel. He came up to the window and told me that he clocked me doing about 56 and that the speed limit was 40. Asked for my license/registration and went to his car. He took a while, I'd say about 10 minutes or so. He came back and I was hoping for a warning since it's the first time I've gotten pulled over in my car and my driving record is completely clean. To my surprise, he gives me a ticket. :faint: I tried my best to try and convince him to give me a warning since I'm a college student and I'm paying out of pocket and I don't have money to pay for a ticket, but he said once the ticket is printed out there's nothing he can do about it. He did say that he reduced the speed down from 56 to 49. He said the ticket carried 1 point if I admitted I was guilty but that I could go to court to get the point taken away and the fine reduced. The fine is $80.

So I have 3 options apparently, pay the ticket, request a waiver hearing, or trial. What should I do?
Having to deal with this when I'm coming back from work tired sucks. :marky:

[ajh1717]

The fine isn't what will kill you, the insurance is.

[KennethKomentai]

i have heard its best to put your keys on the roof and place your hands on the outside of your door palm down

[Hgarden27]

yeah thats what i always do and i have gotten out of plenty of tickets just by being calm. but i just turn off the car, down with the windows, and get all my info out and hold my hands out of the window before the cop gets to my window, and just be nice and i never tell the officer that i did anything untill i know what he saw then i will say my reason for what i was doing and out of being pulled over 9 times i have only gotten 1 ticket. oh and a good tip for motorcycle riders is to tell the cop that ur selling the bike and that ur sorry for being a dumb*** on it. lol it really works

[kb2wji]

i have heard its best to put your keys on the roof and place your hands on the outside of your door palm down

If the goal is to make us feel as safe as possible, then do this... Dont drive. Just lay in your driveway. Face down, arms outstretched, with your palms up. Now spread your feet as far apart as you can and press your heels into the ground so they're flat. Oh, and be naked, cuz thats the only way i'll know that you dont have a gun. Unless you have fat rolls, in which case, lose alot of weight before attempting the above. :gap: Sorry about everyones tickets....its the worst part of the job having to write them. IMHO your risk of a ticket goes up with how nice your city is. If you live in the ghetto, you probably wont be getting tickets for simple traffic stuff. If you live in a nice neighborhood where the cops just look pretty and drink coffee, you're probably screwed. Be careful out there Superman, theres kryptonite! Merry Christmas guys :wiggle:

[celicakucool]

In alot of states, window tint alone is not a "class 1" offense. Meaning, you cant be stopped for that offense alone, although it can be investigated once you stop the car for something else. (City tax stickers that are expired, and similar offenses, are class 2. Since you dont already know that the owner of the car just moved outside the city limits, you cant stop for that reason alone. Just an example) In other states, you can stop for tint alone. In a busier city, window tint can easily be used as an excuse to stop a car that you already wanted to stop for "other" reasons. In "slower" cities, cops have nothing better to do other than write tickets....so yea, tint will more likely get you a ticket.

NJ does, but mostly for nj plate. Imo, Pa or particularly in Philly too much duties/ problems that they have to solve than a car/traffic violation. I have never heard somebody gets ticket for a tint reason (only) in Philadelphia. Other states??

[Iwritetickets]

So I got pulled over tonight on my way back from work. 2 ****ing streets away from my place. :bang:

I turned off the car, rolled my window down, and put my hands on the steering wheel. He came up to the window and told me that he clocked me doing about 56 and that the speed limit was 40. Asked for my license/registration and went to his car. He took a while, I'd say about 10 minutes or so. He came back and I was hoping for a warning since it's the first time I've gotten pulled over in my car and my driving record is completely clean. To my surprise, he gives me a ticket. :faint: I tried my best to try and convince him to give me a warning since I'm a college student and I'm paying out of pocket and I don't have money to pay for a ticket, but he said once the ticket is printed out there's nothing he can do about it. He did say that he reduced the speed down from 56 to 49. He said the ticket carried 1 point if I admitted I was guilty but that I could go to court to get the point taken away and the fine reduced. The fine is $80.

So I have 3 options apparently, pay the ticket, request a waiver hearing, or trial. What should I do?
Having to deal with this when I'm coming back from work tired sucks. :marky:

As I stated before, go to court, You want to plead not guilty because you don't want the POINT on your license. If the fine is what you gotta pay afterward so be it but the point goes on your driving record and your insurance WILL GO UP!!!!!\\As far as reasononing with him don't. The officer knows whether he's gonna ticket you or not. The best this is not arguing where you KNOW you WILL get a ticket.

[Muirner]

yeah thats what i always do and i have gotten out of plenty of tickets just by being calm. but i just turn off the car, down with the windows, and get all my info out and hold my hands out of the window before the cop gets to my window, and just be nice and i never tell the officer that i did anything untill i know what he saw then i will say my reason for what i was doing and out of being pulled over 9 times i have only gotten 1 ticket.

Moving around to collect your information prior to the officer arriving at your car will do nothing more than make them wonder whats up. In my past having my paperwork ready and able to hand them to the officer always seemed to make them wonder why i had it ready to go. If you wait for them to get to your car, ask for your information and open the glovebox or center console and get it infront of them, it shows that nothing is in that place. Also some cops will ask questions to get you rambling and back yourself into a corner, then present what they saw and ticket you because your a lier. Dont get pulled over on your bike by the same cop again, he will remember your excuse.

i have heard its best to put your keys on the roof and place your hands on the outside of your door palm down

Are you a felon? Do they have their guns drawn? Holy Hell. This sounds like a felony stop of an armed robber. If i was an officer i would wonder what you were high on. Shut the car down, leave your hands at 10 and 2, because believe it or not, they can see you from their car. And wait for them to approach. No need to make a stop more drama than it already is.

[Iwritetickets]

NJ does, but mostly for nj plate. Imo, Pa or particularly in Philly too much duties/ problems that they have to solve than a car/traffic violation. I have never heard somebody gets ticket for a tint reason (only) in Philadelphia. Other states??

I did once by a PA State trooper. And by a Philly Highway patrol. But of course I was ticketed with other violations first.

kb2wji- Oh cool another cop. Where at in NY and that lay on your face thing is kinda dangerous because of peole dying from positional asphyxiation (sp?) We use that for felons.:gap:

[Iwritetickets]

Are you a felon? Do they have their guns drawn? Holy Hell. This sounds like a felony stop of an armed robber. If i was an officer i would wonder what you were high on. Shut the car down, leave your hands at 10 and 2, because believe it or not, they can see you from their car. And wait for them to approach. No need to make a stop more drama than it already is.

:chuckles:

[celicakucool]

[QUOTE=Iwritetickets;5258411]I did once by a PA State trooper. And by a Philly Highway patrol. But of course I was ticketed with other violations first.

Philly highway patrol..? you mean a transit police? Those are not a "real" cop that works in the city of Phila. They have nothing to do instead counting/comparing how many celica gts passes a highway than a " Oh..Really?...cars..:gap: Believe it or not, once, I was pulling/reading codes with my new code reader on the Walt Whitman Plaza parking lot ( the back side = the one that side by side with the enterance from Philly to Walt Whitman Bridge)
While I was doing it, I saw a flash in my face/ car; there were transit polices in the car was leaving the grass (border grass between the parking lot and the highway enterance). So, they came slowly approaching my car then used flash light from the car to see what I was doing, I almost fingered them but I am glad I didn't.

[yacob06]

I rarely get pulled over but when I do, I always have my military id in front of my license so they see it. I found out very quickly that a lot of police officers are military or former military so it instantly strikes up a conversation. I've been pulled over a total of 7 times in my 8 years of driving and I've never got a ticket. I got a written warning once for a license plate light being out from a prick town cop that everyone hates lol.

[Iwritetickets]

I rarely get pulled over but when I do, I always have my military id in front of my license so they see it. I found out very quickly that a lot of police officers are military or former military so it instantly strikes up a conversation. I've been pulled over a total of 7 times in my 8 years of driving and I've never got a ticket. I got a written warning once for a license plate light being out from a prick town cop that everyone hates lol.

I let military guys go too. Thats a courtesy all should follow unless it was something serious.

[yacob06]

I let military guys go too. Thats a courtesy all should follow unless it was something serious.

Completely understandable.

[Boosted2.0]

I rarely get pulled over but when I do, I always have my military id in front of my license so they see it. I found out very quickly that a lot of police officers are military or former military so it instantly strikes up a conversation. I've been pulled over a total of 7 times in my 8 years of driving and I've never got a ticket. I got a written warning once for a license plate light being out from a prick town cop that everyone hates lol.

I do this with my concealed carry permit as well (have to obviously). Oddly enough most officers seem to become pretty relaxed once I give them the permit, even if I am carrying and inform them of such. I guess it is probably because you have to be pretty squeaky clean and pass a ton of background checks to get the carry permit in the first place.

[Iwritetickets]

[QUOTE=Iwritetickets;5258411]I did once by a PA State trooper. And by a Philly Highway patrol. But of course I was ticketed with other violations first.

Philly highway patrol..? you mean a transit police? Those are not a "real" cop that works in the city of Phila. They have nothing to do instead counting/comparing how many celica gts passes a highway than a " Oh..Really?...cars..:gap: Believe it or not, once, I was pulling/reading codes with my new code reader on the Walt Whitman Plaza parking lot ( the back side = the one that side by side with the enterance from Philly to Walt Whitman Bridge)
While I was doing it, I saw a flash in my face/ car; there were transit polices in the car was leaving the grass (border grass between the parking lot and the highway enterance). So, they came slowly approaching my car then used flash light from the car to see what I was doing, I almost fingered them but I am glad I didn't.

Philadelphia Highway Patrol are Philadelphia Police with the high ass boots ,Transit Police Are real police. In fact they are under federal gov't and Bridge Police Also are real. Just about anything you see with POLICE written on it is a real cop except school police. They are under Act 235 in PA and Can't carry guns.