New Glass

[atrac7GTS]

Needless to say, I'm rather pumped--my dad gave me his old set of Nikon/Nikkor lenses. I have to get an adapter for the G2 to use these, so once I order that I'll snap away :)

The one I'm looking forward to using most: 50mm 1.8:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/5329729542_c19e514601_z.jpg


I also don't mind the big guy in the middle :o:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5121/5329118161_cf03f28ff0_z.jpg


By the way...do any of you have Flickr PRO account? I'm wondering if it's worth the 24 bucks a year for it.

[mrluilou]

oh me like that 28mm !!!
what is the focal length of the big lens?

[atrac7GTS]

oh me like that 28mm !!!
what is the focal length of the big lens?

I knew you'd approve Mr. Lou :thumbup:


The big guy is my dad's favorite: 52mm-105mm with max aperture of 2.5

[mrluilou]

that's a weird focal length !!
i think these are AI lenses right?
you might not be able to meter w/ your camera

[atrac7GTS]

that's a weird focal length !!
i think these are AI lenses right?
you might not be able to meter w/ your camera

Well I am a noob and I packed the lenses away already and posted the length off the top of my head...I am pretty sure though on its telephoto end it's 105 mm.

I haven't looked into quite what the limitations will be on my Panasonic body, but I can guess autofocus is out the door :laugh: Oh well, I will most likely be shooting in aperture priority for the most part with these. I really like the aperture ring on the Nikon lenses though. Very solid stuff.

[mrluilou]

i think w/ these lenses you might have to keep the camera on manual mode

[atrac7GTS]

i think w/ these lenses you might have to keep the camera on manual mode

:gulp:


Meaning I'd have to choose my own shutter speed? FACK! I'm horrible at gauging what the proper values are for that.

[Blue Bomber]

Nice! I believe that 28 has one of the closest focusing distances of all Nikon lenses. I had one a while ago, and I still have the 50mm 1.8 (though it has a sticky focus ring :marky: ). The rings on these old metal lenses blow away the current plastic consumer stuff. Very smooth and nicely dampened.

And yes, you need to go fully manual. :p: No AF or metering. My D90 didn't have metering with it, but my D7000 does (has a tab to follow the aperture ring). :) It'll teach you a lot about shutter speed vs aperture vs ISO.

[ajh1717]

Nice lenses.

I have absolutely no idea what any of them can be used for however lol.

[Blue Bomber]

Low light and nice bokeh. :)

[mrluilou]

just go all manual and you'll truly learn how to use your camera properly ;)

[atrac7GTS]

Nice! I believe that 28 has one of the closest focusing distances of all Nikon lenses. I had one a while ago, and I still have the 50mm 1.8 (though it has a sticky focus ring ). The rings on these old metal lenses blow away the current plastic consumer stuff. Very smooth and nicely dampened.

And yes, you need to go fully manual. No AF or metering. My D90 didn't have metering with it, but my D7000 does (has a tab to follow the aperture ring). It'll teach you a lot about shutter speed vs aperture vs ISO.

You and Lou are both right, using these lenses will force me to take the manual route fully. I'm sure the satisfaction of composing a great shot is multiplied when you calculate every aspect such as those in manual. Also, my dad said the same thing--they don't make lenses in terms of sheer solidness anymore as they used to.

Nice lenses.

I have absolutely no idea what any of them can be used for however lol.

Honestly you should just sell me your DSLR for cheap so I can give it to my younger brother or GF :gap:

28 mm is for wide angle

50 mm is considered the nearest to what the human eye perceives from side to side

The big guy is a little bit above 50 mm and can extend to 105, meaning it's simply a zoom lens/has telephoto.

[youngxlos]

just go all manual and you'll truly learn how to use your camera properly ;)
:stupid:

[Blue Bomber]

28 mm is for wide angle

50 mm is considered the nearest to what the human eye perceives from side to sideFor a 35mm or full frame sensor camera, that would be true. But you have a 2x crop sensor camera, meaning you multiply the focal lengths by 2 to get the actual field of view (my D7000 is a 1.5x crop) the camera captures. So your 28mm would actually be a 56mm standard lens, and the 50mm a 100mm telephoto. You'd need something like an 8-10mm lens for a wide angle, and something specialized for an ultra-wide or fisheye.

Crop sensors have advantages and disadvantages. As you've read above, you need to get into specialty lens territory to get a wider angle, but standard lenses become telephotos, making it easy to get a good reach for cheap. A 200mm lens would be 400mm on your camera!

Also, it may have a negative effect on bokeh, but I'm not positive on 4/3 cameras. On 1.5x, I think something around F/5.6 is equivalent to F/2.8 or so on a full frame camera. Basically, you'll get shallower depth of field the larger the sensor is. Not a clue how that works, but it does. ;)

[atrac7GTS]

For a 35mm or full frame sensor camera, that would be true. But you have a 2x crop sensor camera, meaning you multiply the focal lengths by 2 to get the actual field of view (my D7000 is a 1.5x crop) the camera captures. So your 28mm would actually be a 56mm standard lens, and the 50mm a 100mm telephoto. You'd need something like an 8-10mm lens for a wide angle, and something specialized for an ultra-wide or fisheye.

Crop sensors have advantages and disadvantages. As you've read above, you need to get into specialty lens territory to get a wider angle, but standard lenses become telephotos, making it easy to get a good reach for cheap. A 200mm lens would be 400mm on your camera!

Also, it may have a negative effect on bokeh, but I'm not positive on 4/3 cameras. On 1.5x, I think something around F/5.6 is equivalent to F/2.8 or so on a full frame camera. Basically, you'll get shallower depth of field the larger the sensor is. Not a clue how that works, but it does. ;)


Damn, now I'm a bit depressed :sadpace:

[mrluilou]

don't listen to him just go out and shoot :thumbup:

[atrac7GTS]

Finally started to use my adapters!

Lou, i was horribly wrong with the zoom lens, it's a fixed focal length glass. Guess I was careless in observing it as I've never used it. Just to give an idea of how they look with a M4/3 camera body :thumbup:

Nikkor 105mm 2.5:

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z197/atrac7/9ed5ccb6.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z197/atrac7/1a43d049.jpg


I am shooting with this primarily. Loving the versatility of it for some reason. Nikon 50mm 1.8

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z197/atrac7/d549890a.jpg?t=1296327207

[ikhaffaji]

nice camera, how is it so far? no problems with those nikkor lenses on that panasonic body?

[atrac7GTS]

nice camera, how is it so far? no problems with those nikkor lenses on that panasonic body?

I am enjoying it very much...the nikkor/nikon lenses are awesome, although I have noticed that shooting fully wide open (so at 1.8 on the 50mm or 2.5 on the 105mm) can lead to some softness on the edges. No problem as I just stop it down to the next setting. Of course on images I plan on cropping I don't care about edge softness, so I'll shoot wide open.

As for more thoughts on the camera: It's a great piece of hardware. The size difference compared to standard DSLR is well worth it. People have called it the "baby DSLR" :laugh:. I have a thread in this section with some shots I've taken :o:

[Blue Bomber]

Yeah, most lenses are sharpest all over between F/5.6 and F/8. You're lucky, since you're using even less of the outer edges of the glass than DX does, so you're seeing even less softness at the edges. As far as size, it's only a hair smaller than a Nikon D3100, but I bet it has a lot more features.

[mrluilou]

who cares about the soft edges !! just keep shooting man !!! :gap:
shooting wide open can be really fun especially at night

[Blue Bomber]

who cares about the soft edges !!Landscape photographers. ;)

[atrac7GTS]

Yeah, most lenses are sharpest all over between F/5.6 and F/8. You're lucky, since you're using even less of the outer edges of the glass than DX does, so you're seeing even less softness at the edges. As far as size, it's only a hair smaller than a Nikon D3100, but I bet it has a lot more features.

Yes, features a plenty, but I'll admit that many of them I will not touch. I haven't really even used video yet which is touted as VERY good on this body. I do like its intelligent auto mode as it's really fun for noobs to take shots when they grab my camera. With other cameras it is a nightmare trying to teach them to fiddle with settings!

As for size, you are mostly on the point about it being similar in size to the D3100

Nikon D3100

Dimensions (W x H x D) Approx. 124 x 96 x 74.5 mm (4.9 x 3.8 x 2.9 in.)
Weight

Approx. 505 g (1lb. 1.8 oz.) with battery and memory card but without body cap-no lens

Panasonic G2:

Dimensions (W x H x D) 124 x 83.6 x 74mm

Approx. 593g / 20.92 oz （SD card, Battery, 14-42mm lens included) / Approx. 371g / 13.09 oz （Body only）

As you can see, in the height department, the G2 holds a pretty good 12.5 MM shorter than the D3100. Otherwise, the other dimensions are roughly equal.

Also, the weight! The G2's weight is indeed rather light compared to the D3100. This is reasonable as there is no mirror box present in the G2. In grams it may not seem much, but the difference in weight was pretty shocking to me when I first picked up the G2, after handling other DSLRs. But not light to the point where it feels flimsy thankfully!

who cares about the soft edges !! just keep shooting man !!!
shooting wide open can be really fun especially at night

True true, I was just mentioning it, as not all is perfect with the camera and lens setup, as is the case for any camera and lens setup :)

By the way Lou, Aperture priority DOES work with the nikkor lenses. I use that and manual now :thumbup:

[mrluilou]

that's great news !!
did the adapters cause any light of loss?

[atrac7GTS]

that's great news !!
did the adapters cause any light of loss?

Not from what I can tell...I'm sure the nikon glass is much better suited for its actual Nikon counterpart bodies, but as of now, all is rather well....(again, to my eyes)

Of course, I get no autofocus, so this would not be ideal if I'm walking with a group of people snapping away at objects or moving objects. Still, I'm mostly a "still" photographer when I shoot, so I don't mind. In fact, even with the Panasonic kit lens, i would use manual focus. I feel it's more precise, but that's just me or some placebo effect :chuckles: