complain to toyota cause factory clutch fails.

[phipg7]

I think everyone should complain to toyota because the clutches are going bad. some of them at like 5k to 30k. mine just went bad and they are telling me I have to pay to have it fixed. Even though it only has 27k. At first I just thought that it was only mine and maybe I had done something to it. But after some research. (look in repairs forum) and talking to other people. the clutches are going bad. It is wrong and toyota won't do jack about it. It makes me mad cause now I gotta fork out 800 to get a new one. COMPLAIN! I am.....

[Z24and GT]

Originally posted by phipg7
I think everyone should complain to toyota because the clutches are going bad. some of them at like 5k to 30k. mine just went bad and they are telling me I have to pay to have it fixed. Even though it only has 27k. At first I just thought that it was only mine and maybe I had done something to it. But after some research. (look in repairs forum) and talking to other people. the clutches are going bad. It is wrong and toyota won't do jack about it. It makes me mad cause now I gotta fork out 800 to get a new one. COMPLAIN! I am.....

Wear item. toyota wont cover it because its SUPPOSED to wear out. It also depends on how much you ride the clucth or slip it on how fast it will go out.

[tommy 2]

yeah man, mine went out at like 27k, it sucked and so did paying for it. $900 for me. i hope this one lasts longer

[Brett]

Not uncommon for a clutch to go out at your mileage if you drive it hard. Toyota shouldn't cover it, and wont. My friend got Toyota to cover his that went out at 20k, but thats cause he did ALOT of bitching. He even agrees it was his fault. Ohwell..

[XYRCNCP]

dude, that would be like saying, "gimme brake pads under warranty because they worn out" like said, its supposed to do that....

[phipg7]

yes clutches are SUPPOSED to wear out. but I've been told by someone who works at toyota that the factory clutch they put in wasn't strong enough to handle the high preformance engine. which is why they are going bad. I don't drive my car hard. auto-crossed it a couple time but that shouldn kill the clutch. It shouldn't need a new clutch yet. toyota should take responsiblity for it.

[Z24and GT]

Originally posted by phipg7
yes clutches are SUPPOSED to wear out. but I've been told by someone who works at toyota that the factory clutch they put in wasn't strong enough to handle the high preformance engine. which is why they are going bad. I don't drive my car hard. auto-crossed it a couple time but that shouldn kill the clutch. It shouldn't need a new clutch yet. toyota should take responsiblity for it.

hmm sounds like your riding the clutch. my wifes celica has 36k and the stock clutch it fine.

sounds liek you drive it harder than you think.

[Brett]

My car has 37k, stock clutch and fine. I think whoever told you that is just feeding you bull****. Get a performance clutch

[XYRCNCP]

some people who work for toyota dont know their ass from a hole in the wall, people at the dealership still say that my car has the TRD body kit, when I have the RMM, I got tired of correcting them...

[kaioshin]

I guess I am an exception to the rule then.

Let me tell you a story of what happened to my clutch. I took it into the dealership to get an oil change. The Re-re that took my car must not have been able to drive stick b/c he stalled out like 3 times driving the car about 30 feet. Trying to get the car on the lift seemed especially difficult for him as he couldn't get it half way up the damn ramp. So, he thinks that flooring the gas and letting the clutch only half way out will get him up. All he manages to do is makes BIG WHITE CLOUDS of smoke come out my hoodscoop. I was completely in shock. I didn't recover until I was on my way home. Good thing too, or that b!tch would have been dead. That was about 60k miles ago. I have 79k miles on now. Stock clutch. No problems.

[autxr]

My stock clutch is at 48,500 miles and counting. THat does include 400+ autocross runs and about 15 1/4 mile passes.

So, I'm not going to call Toyota. I've never seen most of the folks on this board drive, but I have seen people that thought they knew how to drive, but really didn't.

How do I know that the people with clutch failures at 5000 miles really aren't clueless? Because they tell me?

George Bush says he isn't a criminal, do I believe him?

Scott

[djm221]

Originally posted by kaioshin
I guess I am an exception to the rule then.

Let me tell you a story of what happened to my clutch. I took it into the dealership to get an oil change. The Re-re that took my car must not have been able to drive stick b/c he stalled out like 3 times driving the car about 30 feet. Trying to get the car on the lift seemed especially difficult for him as he couldn't get it half way up the damn ramp. So, he thinks that flooring the gas and letting the clutch only half way out will get him up. All he manages to do is makes BIG WHITE CLOUDS of smoke come out my hoodscoop. I was completely in shock. I didn't recover until I was on my way home. Good thing too, or that b!tch would have been dead. That was about 60k miles ago. I have 79k miles on now. Stock clutch. No problems.
Damn, you let them get away with that? I would've demanded something.

Anyway, another one here with over 30,000 miles and no problem on the stock clutch. And just because a handfull of other people abused there clutch to an early death, doesn't mean it is bad.

[kaioshin]

Originally posted by djm221

Damn, you let them get away with that? I would've demanded something.


Yeah, like I said I was in shock, completely dumbfounded...... oh well.

[phipg7]

well, I don't need to defend my driving. I've been driving a long time and have had a lot of cars. this the FIRST clutch I have ever seen go bad in any car I've owned. all I'm saying is this. It is a warning. just give it time.. it'll go bad... my toyota source is a serious on. dont call me a bad driver. all my orginal posting was for was to bitch about my car that is now broken which I KNOW I didn't abuse. but thats ok... all the rest of the people who think I'm smoking something can think that. but one day. your clutch will go bad and you wonder why it did with so little miles. Clutches should last more then 100k. I'm out.

[phipg7]

one more thing I forgot to mention. this is ONLY the case with the 2000 GTS. all others don't apply. thanx!

[00CericaRuss]

2000 gts, 30k stock clutch, no probs

[370hpz28]

yeah..... but dont worry, you are not alone in the problem..... i have a 2000 z28 camaro and the thing has 51,000 on it and already needs a new clutch!! :( i cant even spend the tires with 319hp being sent to the ground!!! :(:(:(

mike

[Calsoldier]

How do you know when your clutch is worn out or getting close to getting worned out? When do your guys's clutches engage (from the floor)? Be specific please.

Thanks

[PaCelicaGTS]

hey 59K+ on a 2000 Toyota Celica GTS bought late Sept of 1999 ORIGINAL CLUTCH, NO problems what so ever! and ask larryd, drew, mwz26, dragonglen, willywonka, anyone on here that has met me. I do NOT baby my car.

[Da Kine Guy]

Originally posted by Calsoldier
How do you know when your clutch is worn out or getting close to getting worned out? When do your guys's clutches engage (from the floor)? Be specific please.

Thanks

Start your car, press clutch in, stick it in 5th or 6th gear, drop the clutch hard. If your car doesn't die right away when you drop it your clutch has a good chance or being worn out. If it dies right away, you're all ok. :D

[LaW]

**** MINE WENT OUT AT 5k.... I have a 2000 gts... wait, I blew it from a misshift haha ok next case. I have had my clutch and my car is at 40k from 5k with no problems.....

[FAK Q]

bought 2000 gt 5spd new....40100 miles....clutch is good......i even complaint to the dealer about the clutch engaging at the floor.....they didnt listen and thought i was crazy...but i manage to get use to it and now im having fun....i love my celi.....one other thing it all depends how you drive your car....lol

[RuthieAngel]

I purchased my celica beginning of 2000. I am a VERY careful driver. Been told I drive like a granny and my clutch went. Toyota wouldn't do a thing. 13K on there and it's MY fault?? Come on, somethings up. I don't think it's just hard driving, I think Toyota put some crappy clutches in the GTS. I had to fork out almost a grand just because of the stupid 'wear and tear' not covered on my warranty. That is a load of horse crap when I didn't even GET to wear and tear my baby....... Grrrr.....................

[RedNOSceli]

Originally posted by RuthieAngel
I purchased my celica beginning of 2000. I am a VERY careful driver. Been told I drive like a granny and my clutch went. Toyota wouldn't do a thing. 13K on there and it's MY fault?? Come on, somethings up. I don't think it's just hard driving, I think Toyota put some crappy clutches in the GTS. I had to fork out almost a grand just because of the stupid 'wear and tear' not covered on my warranty. That is a load of horse crap when I didn't even GET to wear and tear my baby....... Grrrr.....................

Grandmas wear out clutches faster then normal driving in the endless time spent slipping the clutch for smoother shifts.

Also, the only thing you really did wrong was pay 1000+ for a clutch....call around, pay no more then 5 or 6 hundred for a new clutch+ install...

[LaW]

Originally posted by RedNOSceli


Grandmas wear out clutches faster then normal driving in the endless time spent slipping the clutch for smoother shifts.

Also, the only thing you really did wrong was pay 1000+ for a clutch....call around, pay no more then 5 or 6 hundred for a new clutch+ install...


:werd: grandma shifters just slip the clutch like crazy..... geez :) let me guess you had toyota install your clutch?

[Sups]

when do you know when your clutch goes out? this is my first car thats a stick so i dont know much about them.

[BoyRacer]

im at about 33.5k miles. mines not grabbing like it used to, but i took it to toyota and they think its fine :confused: this was yesturday. i dunno......i guess i'll have to wait and see what happens

[Trial00GTS]

mine just went out at 7k but they wont do nothing because i have intake exhaust they say i race and i power shift.. BS yeah i think the clutch is weak. I have gone in for clutch probs b4 and they just BS me so i say **** em just getting a new act clutch

[RuthieAngel]

Originally posted by RedNOSceli


Grandmas wear out clutches faster then normal driving in the endless time spent slipping the clutch for smoother shifts.

Also, the only thing you really did wrong was pay 1000+ for a clutch....call around, pay no more then 5 or 6 hundred for a new clutch+ install...

Too bad I'm not a grandma or that would be my problem. ^_~

[DrunkenTiger]

so what is the proper way to engage the clutch?

lets say going from 2 to 3

you depress the clutch, shift into gear, then smoothly let out the clutch while gassing it right? What if you dont let out the clutch fast enough and gas it hard? would that be burning the clutch? Feathering the clutch while in reverse? Would that be hurting the clutch too? sorry for such newbie questions.

[TaeMachine]

i dont feather the clutch the whole time im moving in reverse. i just get it moving, depress the pedal to release the clutch, then let the car roll to wherever.

[Karim]

hmmmmmm we're complaining about clutches can I complain about the stock tires wearing out to quick too :rolleyes: you aren't driving right if it's wearing out so quick. Please don't call and give the rest of us owners a bad name, thanx :D

Karim

[yakkosmurf]

Clutches wear out at different levels depending on how you drive. Also, it's very easy to tell when a clutch has failed because of wear and because of a problem. Anyone who's worked on clutches before can tell. There are very different signatures for each kind of failure. All this talk about how quickly somone's clutch went out is meaningless if you don't include what exactly failed. The people posting longer clutch lives show there isn't a generic problem. I don't care how long you've been driving a manual transmission. That doesn't mean you're a good driver and not hard on clutches. I've got 236k miles on my MR2's stock clutch. No real problems so far.

[chameleon]

You know, when you have members like autxer posting saying that they put over 400 autocross runs and 15 passes at the track on their stock clutch with no problems it kind of throws the whole "weak stock clutch" theory out the window.

[autxr]

Did I mention that I taught my wife to drive a manual transmission on the Celica, and the FIRST weekend we had it, she participated in her first autocross school in the car. If that doesn't kill a car, what will?

Scott

[TopSpeedCustoms]

I blew my clutch and presure plate at 12K, The dealership tried to say it was abuse. We argued back and forth, I actully called the guy an asshole, the manager came out, they said they just wanted my permission to open the tranny. An hour later I get a call, Actual qoute- "Good news sir, It was a mechanical defect in your pressure plate, And it will be covered by warrenty." Two days later, I go to pick it up, and it had like an inch of grime on it. So I bitched more. My dealership has one of those autowash garages, I got a year free pass. I was there like everyother day washing it for free.

The moral, Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

[Chris25NJ]

2000 gts, 45k miles, stock clutch, fair amount of track runs, no probs

[Brine504]

yea stock clutch sucks still or it could be how people drive it mine went after i bought it used at 35k a month after. but i think its for the better gettin an act street clutch and fidanza flywheel. better mod i woulda done anyway. Shiit happens