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370hpz28
07-19-2002, 01:55 PM
are celicas faster than my 2000 z28(all i have done is exaust).... ive been in a few races with them at the track and they are just plain mean!! i hope that i didnt spend all my money on a piece o' crap domestic!!! do you guys like the f-body???

mike

nyoneway
07-19-2002, 01:56 PM
Nah Celi's only have 4 cylinder and no power or torque at all. We stand no chance.

See you in the streets.

Blue Bomber
07-19-2002, 02:09 PM
This one's kinda fast. (http://www.puertoricodragracing.com/Video/ElAtomo001.mpg)

370hpz28
07-19-2002, 02:10 PM
ok smart @$$ lol.... i have NEVER messed with a celica before... are they really 4 cylinders??? i thought that there was a 6 cyl. version..... i dont know.... :( i know nothing about imports lol... but thanx anyways.... are all as fast as i seen at the track??? i ran an 8.4 in the 1/8th

mike

Blue Bomber
07-19-2002, 02:17 PM
A stock 00-01 GT-S can hit as low as 14.9 1/4 mi. with a good driver (02's are slower because of a lower rev limiter). They can get into the low 9's 1/8 mi.

BTW, the last 6 cyl. Celica was made in the mid 80's, called the Celica Supra. Then it split up into two separate cars, the Celica (4 cyl. FWD) and the Supra (6 cyl. RWD).

pepsiman
07-19-2002, 03:21 PM
z28 is not super fast in my dictionary~
i raced couple z28s.. beat em by few inches.. lost by few inches..
its really close~
i belive z28 was stock but my car had intake n exhaust.
highway 40mph roll start was really close~ i kept it up..
im sure z28 is faster than GT-S but hey! my friends don't believe me but they saw me killing stang GT bullit.. me:8200rpm powershiftin n bullit boy: missed 3rd gear.. hehe
w/ equal drivers.. z28 will beat GT-S but it'll be close.

X-EVIL-X
07-19-2002, 03:38 PM
how fast were the ones running at the track?

skatamatic
07-19-2002, 04:48 PM
your z28 should be able to kick our ass easily. although i hung with my friend in his trans am for about 1 second the other day on the freeway. but then he pulled away hard.

ArtmanTRD
07-19-2002, 05:09 PM
i think this guy is being a total goober and messing with us...

autxr
07-19-2002, 06:02 PM
He's from charolotte, I'm from raleigh.

I'll be happy to meet up with this guy at an autocross in the Charlotte area and show him that a fast car has 4 cylinders, front drive, and is made in Japan.

I'll even put money on it.

Scott

Griffin
07-19-2002, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by autxr
He's from charolotte, I'm from raleigh.

I'll be happy to meet up with this guy at an autocross in the Charlotte area and show him that a fast car has 4 cylinders, front drive, and is made in Japan.

I'll even put money on it.

Scott

Rofl your mean... Z28s don't handle for sheet and you know it :)

Griffin

xi KiNG ix
07-19-2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Blue Bomber
This one's kinda fast. (http://www.puertoricodragracing.com/Video/ElAtomo001.mpg) eheh

xi KiNG ix
07-19-2002, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by autxr
He's from charolotte, I'm from raleigh.

I'll be happy to meet up with this guy at an autocross in the Charlotte area and show him that a fast car has 4 cylinders, front drive, and is made in Japan.

I'll even put money on it.

Scott owned

jer925
07-19-2002, 09:23 PM
i was just gonna say, straight line race Z28, hit some corners at a very nice speed, Celica all the way.

MSR27
07-19-2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by nyoneway
Nah Celi's only have 4 cylinder and no power or torque at all. We stand no chance.

See you in the streets.

Your car is just so damn clean......

TheX-Man
07-19-2002, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by ArtmanTRD
i think this guy is being a total goober and messing with us...

370hpz28
07-19-2002, 10:44 PM
ok.. so if i see a gt-s as opposed to a gt then it is the good stuff?? and would be a pretty close race with equal drivers?? (2000 LS1 vs. gt-s celica ) i have seen some on the highway but never got the chance to get up to them ( too much traffic ) should i have a better chance from a roll or from a dead stop???

thanx

mike

370hpz28
07-19-2002, 10:46 PM
autrx: if you want to meet up and race somtime around charlotte than that will be great with me.... but not without money. i have a z28.... then i also have a highly modified 99' SS. and lets just say that alot of people would PAY just to see this SS run down the road :) :) :) so if you want to run what you brung with a little cash down.... im totally there :)

mike

370hpz28
07-19-2002, 10:49 PM
and i beg to differ to the fact ya'll stated about camaros not handleing for "sheet" the SS i have is a BEAST on the corners with alllllll bmr "supplies" up in under the car..... these cars are not the best..... but they can be made pretty tight. :)

mike

Iwannagofast
07-19-2002, 10:58 PM
All I gotta say is a 93+ z28 can do some wooping up on a celica. I had a 2000 SS and raced a few celicas and to be honest I was like damn them things are slow as hell. I didn't buy my celica to race comaros I bought it because it looked cool and I can whoop up on some civics, and of course I can't get insured on another camaro unless I work 5 jobs to pay for insurance. As farr as handling my celica doesn't handle any better than the camaro did. I guess I just pushed the camaro to the limits and knew the car very well, unlike my celica.

Griffin
07-19-2002, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by 370hpz28
and i beg to differ to the fact ya'll stated about camaros not handleing for "sheet" the SS i have is a BEAST on the corners with alllllll bmr "supplies" up in under the car..... these cars are not the best..... but they can be made pretty tight. :)

mike

True - there are worse cars around corners, but the Celica is kinda hard to beat around a road course.... but don't take my word for it let Scott show ya :)

To answer your questions GTS is the faster of the Celicas and no it doesn't matter if you go from a roll or a dead stop your Z28 will probably still pull on the Celi with no problem assuming you drive well and hook up. I mean, sure, we make a ton of power for a 1.8 and teh car is light but down the 1/4 its hard to overcome a 140 HP advantage.

Griffin

RedNOSceli
07-19-2002, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by 370hpz28
are celicas faster than my 2000 z28(all i have done is exaust).... ive been in a few races with them at the track and they are just plain mean!! i hope that i didnt spend all my money on a piece o' crap domestic!!! do you guys like the f-body???

mike

Why does this sound like some guy just trying to start sh*t?

stock SS= 12's with slicks...gimmie a break, if you come in here with an SS that "People will pay money to see", then you obviouly know that the celica is a mear 14 second import.

skatamatic
07-19-2002, 11:44 PM
ooh, cool. make sure to let us know how the auto-x goes. all i'm saying is i have my money on scott :).

X-EVIL-X
07-20-2002, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by Iwannagofast
All I gotta say is a 93+ z28 can do some wooping up on a celica. I had a 2000 SS and raced a few celicas and to be honest I was like damn them things are slow as hell. I didn't buy my celica to race comaros I bought it because it looked cool and I can whoop up on some civics, and of course I can't get insured on another camaro unless I work 5 jobs to pay for insurance. As farr as handling my celica doesn't handle any better than the camaro did. I guess I just pushed the camaro to the limits and knew the car very well, unlike my celica.
are you talking about the 93-97 Z28's which had the LT1 or the 98+ which have the LS1's???
i have hung with 97 and under Z28's but anything newer we dont stand much of a chance in a straight line:)

autxr
07-20-2002, 07:04 AM
OK go here:

http://www.ccrsolo2.org/event/2002.html

There is a 24 hour autocross at Eastland Mall on August 31/Sept 1. I will be there. Come on out and pay the $25-30 to play (safe, legal, fun).

I'll be happy to put on a clinic at that time.

I'll be there in a dark blue/black 2000 celica GTS, it will have the numbers "DS 23" or "DS 32" on the sides of it. My wife will be there too. I bet she will also beat you.

For what it's worth, a Celica should lose to a Z28 on both the street and strip, turns or no turns. I'm mostly betting that you dont know how to drive well enough to beat me if turns are invoved.

Scott

Drag'nGT
07-20-2002, 07:39 AM
Can I ask why the hell you wanna bother a Celica in the first place? Go pick on some Mustangs. They need to loose some races.

I can understand if you want to race one that revs on you....but to actually look for one to race??? :wtf:

370hpz28
07-20-2002, 08:40 AM
lol... i want to bother a celica because the only ones that i seen race have run a 8.3 in the 1/8th. i dont think that this is normal for the little car but i was just making sure. and i didnt build the SS so i dont know a whole lot about the other side( celica,ect...) ( in reference to knowing everything about all cars)

but i will say that dad's SS has: HEADS, CAM, INTAKE, LT HEADERS, SPEC STAGE III CLUTCH, 150 TNT, 12 BOLT MOSER, AND AN ARMY OF UNDERCARRIAGE GOODIES.... DYNOED AT 554 RWHP :) but this is not the car that i want to compare, i was wanting to compare my 2000 z28 that made 319rwhp.... i know that the celicas i have seen are damn fast.... i was just wondering how the stock ones stood up...

thanx

mike

370hpz28
07-20-2002, 08:44 AM
rednosceli...... i dont know what the hell the celica runs stock... 14's??? ok.... now i know. i was just asking.... i dont want to start ****.... its like as if you know that im faster and you are surprised when i ask you which one is faster when i just dont know what a celica does--- whereas you do know.:)

mike

Camry2000
07-20-2002, 08:46 AM
Foo! Everyone knows the Celica is God's chariot. :rolleyes:

Drag'nGT
07-20-2002, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Camry2000
Foo! Everyone knows the Celica is God's chariot. :rolleyes:

:rofl: God has good taste.

Maelfyn
07-20-2002, 03:44 PM
I like this troll. Can we keep him Larry? please please please!

celica gte racing
07-20-2002, 06:18 PM
come to Nurburgring, I will eat you alive. :)

SlasherX
07-20-2002, 07:33 PM
i've met some dumb people in my lifetime, but this guy's taking the cake.

you own an LS1..and yet you completely manage to make the car sound like a civic dx in terms of speed.

please sell the car to someone who knows what the thing is capable of.

Keyshawn
07-20-2002, 07:45 PM
Slasher, I don't think he's as clueless as he's acting. I think he's being sarcastic in some silly attempt to ridicule Celica owners.

2000REDGT
07-20-2002, 08:22 PM
Hey Scott, when are you going to Eastland. I live like 45min. away and would love to see some auto-x.

Scott(Yes my name is Scott to)

t2000gts
07-21-2002, 09:32 AM
if you saw a GTS hit a 8.3 in the 1/8, then it's not unlikely you saw a GTS spraying. there are no turbos or superchargers, and even a small to normal sized shot of nitrous adds a big punch to the GTS (high compression motor). that huge jump in torque makes a big difference for such a lightweight car (2500lb), plus the close gear ratios often make for spinning of tires till 50mph, however if someone got traction somehow with a GTS on the bottle, it's remotely possible. and consider yourself lucky to ever see one of these, cuz i've only heard of one guy ever who hooked up well enough to run a great time on a GTS with nitrous (13.12 on a 50 shot).

and hope to see you take up scott on his autox offer.

370hpz28
07-21-2002, 09:33 AM
2000redgt.... lets go to mooresville to the dragstrip.... bring some celi's too.

keyshawn: shhhhhhh.... dont tell anybody.... lmao

i ran 8.4 in the 1/8th in my stock ls1 m6 (6 speed) so i guess that i dont really know what my car is capable of now do i??? ..... so who is the troll here???? im just talkin cars .... and if you dont like it then dont read it.

mike

Keyshawn
07-21-2002, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by 370hpz28

keyshawn: shhhhhhh.... dont tell anybody.... lmao

mike

So I'm wrong, then? Oh, well. I guess Slasher's right after all: you're just plain dumb. My mistake.:chuckles:

2000REDGT
07-21-2002, 09:58 PM
2000redgt.... lets go to mooresville to the dragstrip.... bring some celi's too.

Don't you know how fast my automatic GT is boy. Your in for a hurtin. j/k :nono:

LaW
07-21-2002, 10:07 PM
God's Chariot is faster then all cars in the world

SlasherX
07-21-2002, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by 370hpz28
2000redgt.... lets go to mooresville to the dragstrip.... bring some celi's too.

keyshawn: shhhhhhh.... dont tell anybody.... lmao

i ran 8.4 in the 1/8th in my stock ls1 m6 (6 speed) so i guess that i dont really know what my car is capable of now do i??? ..... so who is the troll here???? im just talkin cars .... and if you dont like it then dont read it.

mike

if you're running an 8.4 stock, and you see a celi run a 8.3, how the hell could you think the celica was stock?

i mean..ls1 owners' almost always know that they're driving the fastest car out there in a working persons price range(pre 03)..

370hpz28
07-23-2002, 12:47 PM
2000redgt:

....... lets put some money on a race at mooresville.... i got ya daddy right here.... ( not the z28, its too slow) :)

keyshawn:

........ thank you so much for the compliment..... i sure am glad that i dont have to drive a celica and ask you for advice..... you'd prolly just tell me what an idiot i am.

anybody that wants to come to mooresville to the track... come on... but we're not even puttin the slicks on the car with out any money. this is just an open invitation to see cars run, and to have some fun with a little money involved..... this is not me saying that my car is the best in the world or somthing stupid..... but if anybody knows were mooresville dragway is:::: then bring it on and run what ya brung.

mike

370hpz28
07-23-2002, 12:50 PM
slasherX..

. i pretty much knew that the things that i saw run were not stock.... but i just wanted to see what it took to make this car that fast.... and how fast a STOCK celi is.

MIKE

RTKILLA
07-23-2002, 12:58 PM
A Z28 is slow anyway!


Just kiding, there pretty fast when your talking stock. Only problem is that everybody and there mother has one.

Limited production vehicles is where its at!

Hepnotic
07-23-2002, 02:03 PM
Look at this fool coming onto the celica board asking to drag race us with his camaro.

I'll race you for two bills on ortega highway. 1 mile, from a 50mph roll.

Keyshawn
07-23-2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by 370hpz28
slasherX..

. i pretty much knew that the things that i saw run were not stock.... but i just wanted to see what it took to make this car that fast.... and how fast a STOCK celi is.

MIKE

If you knew that the Celicas you saw were not stock, why were you asking stuff like this in your earlier posts:

Originally posted by 370hpz28
...are celicas faster than my 2000 z28(all i have done is exaust)....

.... are all (Celicas) as fast as i seen at the track???...


Heh, my bad if I think you "ain't the sharpest tool in the shed." I just didn't realize that it was all that complicated to get ANY major car mag from the last two years and look in their road test summaries to get a general idea of how fast a Celica is. It's not all that difficult. Then again, maybe it IS difficult for YOU.:chuckles:

PapiChuu
07-23-2002, 07:48 PM
maybe you should be posting at www.supraforums.com

Orion Pax
07-23-2002, 08:02 PM
God's chariot always wins.

Griffin
07-23-2002, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by PapiChuu
maybe you should be posting at www.supraforums.com

I agree - I think he would probably have a lot more fun if he challenges those guys to a race, they are runnning a bunch of under-powered wussmobiles you'll eat em alive. Make sure to bet a LOT :)

Griffin

Griffin
07-23-2002, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Hepnotic
Look at this fool coming onto the celica board asking to drag race us with his camaro.

I'll race you for two bills on ortega highway. 1 mile, from a 50mph roll.

He he - Good form :) - anyone braggin on daddy's car probably wouldn't make it around 3 corners without wussing out or going over the edge.

Griffin

370hpz28
07-24-2002, 05:39 AM
ok then.... if ya'll are soooooo big and bad then bring it down to the dragstrip. i mean all that i can do is talk numbers and put up challenges..... you just sit there and tell me that i am stupid.... and say to go to supraforums..... well supraforums has some damn fast cars over there, that would wax the SS, and the Z28 that we have.

im sooooo sorry if you are insecure about the performance of your celicas.... i was trying to make yall feel good in my earlier posts, while at the same time getting some information-which is why i typed www.newcelica.org in the first place.

a mile race??? that is not a real race... but if i DID see you on the highyway then i was run ya..... a real race is were they have numbers and times... not two rednecks at the other end lookin to see " da fassess caaaawww". bring it to mooresville, bring it to shadyside, bring it to rockinham, bring it to darlington.

when you say all of these derogatory things to me, it just proves that you will never be as good a site as www.ls1.com--- nothing but help from those guys. look at how many members they have. and they have tripled the forum since i started in feburary. i can get help out of them; nothing but ridicule from this site.

im thinkin of puttin the slicks on the SS and going to eastland mall for that autocross. like i said.... bring it, and run what you brung... while at the same time dont talk a bunch of crap.

keyshawn: you my friend are the typical ricer.

PapiChuu
07-24-2002, 09:22 AM
z28, theres no naturally aspirated celica that would beat a newer z28 in a drag race (what do they run stock? like high 13s?), but a GTS on juice would have a better chance. now you said that you ran the 1/8th in what? 8.4? well my best run with optimal conditions was 9.35 so your about a full second faster then my fastest run ever which is about the 3rd or 4th fastest on the database here. so i'm not sure whats up with the celica uve seen around your way. check this link out to see how other celicas run http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/index.php

Griffin
07-24-2002, 10:16 AM
Ahhh FINALLY we see the post that he has been waiting and baiting all this time for.

We done told your punk trolling butt a million times your car is faster down the 1/4. Obviously you have no confidence in the Z28 you drive because you are too chicken to race IT, you wanna bring 500 HP and slicks to the table which is absolutely preposterous. You had damn well BETTER win with 500 hp.

Oh - about Ortega Hwy (no its NOT a normal hwy)... a word of warning, the road has about 3 feet worth of straightaway in 30 miles worth of road, the dropoffs are about 100 to 500 feet, theres no gaurdrails and we Celica folks run it for kicks.... but hey you've got 500HP so no worries right? Assuming you can handle that power well enough to keep it on the road.

We know your engine is bigger and that your daddy has a fast car. Thanks, thats great. Now unless you have something productive to say go away.

Griffin

Keyshawn
07-24-2002, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by 370hpz28
...the import guys seem to be concerned about spoilers, ground effects, swirvy tail spoilers, and clear lights.....

This quote from your other thread is a shining example of why people on here think you're a troll who doesn't deserve serious answers to your questions. The fact that you lump most import owners together and insult them is why you are shown zero respect. It may be difficult with your limited intellect, but try to learn how to treat people as individuals, and don't generalize what people think just because they drive an import.

Just like how I treat YOU as an individual. Make no mistake: I have the utmost respect for domestic car-enthusiasts who are knowledgeable, open-minded, and respect other people's rides, whether domestic or import. When I say you are extremely dim-witted, I'm not talking about domestic car-owners in general. The ONLY person I'm talking about is YOU.:chuckles:

WillyK
07-24-2002, 11:15 AM
This fool is as bad as the rtkilla guy in OT

Camry2000
07-24-2002, 11:31 AM
In befodalok! :)

Orion Pax
07-24-2002, 01:56 PM
:closed:

DaksGT
07-24-2002, 02:54 PM
I wish I was close, my cousins mustang and his type r would give you more then a run for your money, my crx would put up fairly well, road course and strip.