turbo question

[celicapimp02]

I have an 02 celica gts w 32k on the motor and I throw a turbo on it how long will the motor last with stock internalso

[ajh1717]

It depends on your PSI.

I suggest you do research about turboing a car if you need to ask a question like that.

[2KGTrd]

It depends on your PSI.and how you drive it.
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[celicapimp02]

I asked how long would it last at 8psi, I didn't need a Dick answer

[2KGTrd]

There's a whole forum dedicated to your answer.
Countless ppl have ran 8psi for multiple years without any problems, but if you dog the sh!t out of your car and beat on it...it won't last. That goes for any car turbo or stock. Aftermarket turbos always increase maintenance.

[celicapimp02]

Thank you, that all I was looking for. I don't plan on beating on it. Maybe drive hard once in a while bit I don't drive my car very much anyways.

[2KGTrd]

It also depends on the motors history and how regular maintenance has been.
How much boost you want to run.
How well the kit was installed.
How well the car was tuned.
So many things

[celicapimp02]

Ii ordered the car 10 years ago with 1 mile on it changed oil every 2500 and kit would be installed and tuned by mwr

[2KGTrd]

if you have the money go for it

[marc]

I have an 02 celica gts w 32k on the motor and I throw a turbo on it how long will the motor last with stock internalso

over 9000

[evilthorne]

I have an 02 celica gts w 32k on the motor and I throw a turbo on it how long will the motor last with stock internalso

Before you get all defensive, where in this post does it say 8psi?

Now if your going to have MWR install and tune it then you have nothing to worry about.

[GrammErpolice]

it should last 3 years with stock internals at 31.7 pounds. at least mine did.

[ajh1717]

I have an 02 celica gts w 32k on the motor and I throw a turbo on it how long will the motor last with stock internalso

I asked how long would it last at 8psi, I didn't need a Dick answer

Before you get all defensive, where in this post does it say 8psi?

.

[celicapimp02]

thanks

[Boosted2.0]

Read this and read all the dub links - you will probably learn a lot that will help you make an informed decision:

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=199226

To answer the question you meant to ask I will say this:

It depends on a the following factors:

1 - Quality of tune
2 - Quality and type of engine management
3 - Quality of parts
4 - Current condition of engine
5 - Quality of fuel
6 - Frenquency of maintenance
7 - Useage after installation

Your question makes it fairly obvious you are new to forced induction. Please don't take this as an insult, as it is not intended as such, but what you asked and how you asked it make it fairly clear. 8 PSI can happen at 210 HP and it can happen at close to 300 HP. Its a completely arbitrary number. So is any HP number you might choose to throw at us at this time.

The BEST thing you can do right now is a ton of research. This is hugely important because you really ought to decide what you are going to do with your car before you modify it. You need a budget, backup transportation, and a goal. Once you have all three of these things, talk to a professional (MWR or us) and see if your budget can take you to your goal when doing things right. If not you need to either increase your budget or change your goal. The absolute WORST thing you can do is just randomly decide X HP and X dollars, as you will not wind up happy. There are a ton of thresholds you cross as power increases (clutch fail point, ring land fail point, trans fail point, rod fail point) Each of which requires a progressively more extensive investment to overcome. Each of them also decreases up time and reliability. You also will need to contemplate changes in tires, suspension, exhaust etc as well.

If this is your primary transportation and you don't have a reliable backup then leave FI alone.

Just FYI - A well thought out question looks like this:

I want to do X with my car. I have X to spend and I have/do not have a beater / second car. Can I get a reliable turbo system together on my stock bottom end for that much, and if so what sort of power level / performance envelope am I looking at?

A different good question might be:

"What kind of power level can a stock bottom end support" (There is a thread in the sticky I linked devoted to exactly that.)

[celicapimp02]

I have a second car so I'm set there I just have wanted to do this for a long time I have just under 10k to spend so that's what I'm looking to do. A lot of people say don't pour that Mich money in Ur car well I've got about 40 into since new and ill never sell it

[Boosted2.0]

Then there is no reason not to Turbo.

You still need to tell us what you want to do with it though. (Street use / track / drag / etc>)

[celicapimp02]

Boosted 2.0 thanks that helped the most thanks a lot. What does everyone think of mwr turbo kits?

[celicapimp02]

I think my goal is to have 500hp one day after my motor needs to be built

[celicapimp02]

And mostly street maybe take it down the track sometimes is like to run low 11's one day

[Boosted2.0]

MWRs kits are good stuff. I don't know if they offer one small enough for daily street use on a stock engine, but I imagine they might. The turbokits.com stuff is good too.

Just remember you need engine management, fuel system (injectors / pump) tuning etc.

[celicapimp02]

I talked with Matt and he said go with the 3995 kit and some other stuff he said it should work great

[Boosted2.0]

I think my goal is to have 500hp one day after my motor needs to be built

And mostly street maybe take it down the track sometimes is like to run low 11's one day

A 500 WHP Celica is not a "streetable" car. Its a highway racer and a drag car and thats it.

If you want to ENJOY the car on the street think 250-300 WHP.

[celicapimp02]

well ill keep that in mind because i want a streetable car. what about if the car has 400? is that too much for the street. I just want to continue to do stuff to my car

[Boosted2.0]

Its all a matter of opinion at that point dude. I already gave you mine. You can get up to 350 / 400 and still be driveable with the right equipment, but its a much more considerable investment at that point (trans, super strong clutch, pistons & bearings) And to have a turbo at that level that will spool you are also looking at ball bearings, more advanced engine and boost control, in other words a lot more expense.

[marc]

I think my goal is to have 500hp one day after my motor needs to be built


along with the rest of the entire car.

[kortik]

I have turbokit.com kit with GT28rS turbo pusshing 9lb of boost stock engine making 264whp and 196trq and thats more that enough for me since its my daily driver

been running a turbo for almost 18k Miles so far have about 140k miles on the car/engine.

I change my oil every 3000miles along with oem toyota filter, I have Hydra EMS and 700cc inj. and 255lph walbro fuel pump and MWR FPR and return line

in Lift my front wheels spin out of contorl I have no traction at 260whp especially when it rains (and it rains a lot here in Seattle) I cannot imagine having a 400+ celica/matrix FWD as a daily driver. but make a decision on your own.

I also upgraded a clutch to RPS max/steet and Spyder Helical LSD and running an Aquamist mater/meth injection kit.

all this stuff cost me over $5000 with tuning, but I am planing to run my car to 200K miles with this turbo, I think it will last past that, my engine seems to be doing fine according to the blackstone lab report

Its been a year since the install and I drive ~130 miles a day in this car 5 days a week a given, and did that for the past 1 year with this turbo kit. and planing on doing that this year as well.

will probably need to tune this car again just to perfect the tune.Been mainly street tuning by myself while driving to work for one year. So far no complains I am pleased I am thinking to tune her on the dyno by myself next time tune the vvt and timing

[celicapimp02]

Sounds good to me. Im not dumb about this topic I wanted opinions. I remember back in 01 when I got my car there was hardly anyone with a turbo. So I've been reading on this forum for a long time. I really appreciate all the guys that commented in a good way. Yeah I guess 400 HP would suck in the rain. I guess ill have to wait and see how I like it

[youngxlos]

400+ hp on a fwd car is kind of pointless unless you run slicks all day or have a good boost by gear boost controller (more money) 250-300whp is perfect for street on a Celica, I have yet to dyno tune my car but I'm running 20psi on a GT2860RS turbokits kit, but I have a fully build and blue printed engine to handle the psi, even at these power levels the torque steer can be a pain, and you'll have to run wide wheels and tires to make use of that power, you have to take a step back and think long and hard before you buy the kit. 10k is a ton of money to spend on a 10+ year old car.

[purpleharo]

i have 400whp and its is not fun to daily by any means! for a dd i would def go with the gt28rs or at largest a gt2871r. I love the power on the freeway but cruising around in town or when it rains it is a pain and have to wait for spool forever. Much more of a thrill to have smaller turbo in the celica if your going to be driving it everyday

[Smaay]

my celica made 545 to the wheels. thats over 600 crank HP. regular driving i turn the boost down to about 350 or what the lowest the wastegate will allow which was about 15psi. then when i raced, i just turned it up to 30 psi. and destroyed mustangs and corvetts on the freeway.

[kortik]

wow I dont know how you could control your celica at 600 crank, that's a lot of power for FWD car isn't it. Even at 350whp that still plenty

[youngxlos]

my celica made 545 to the wheels. thats over 600 crank HP. regular driving i turn the boost down to about 350 or what the lowest the wastegate will allow which was about 15psi. then when i raced, i just turned it up to 30 psi. and destroyed mustangs and corvetts on the freeway.
how often do you drive the Celica? not often I'm sure... i remember Jesse telling me how crazy it was being inside your car at those power levels.

[Dnar]

my celica made 545 to the wheels. thats over 600 crank HP. regular driving i turn the boost down to about 350 or what the lowest the wastegate will allow which was about 15psi. then when i raced, i just turned it up to 30 psi. and destroyed mustangs and corvetts on the freeway.

My dream and your reality hehe, hopefully Ill get there someday at least 400whp =)

[purpleharo]

my celica made 545 to the wheels. thats over 600 crank HP. regular driving i turn the boost down to about 350 or what the lowest the wastegate will allow which was about 15psi. then when i raced, i just turned it up to 30 psi. and destroyed mustangs and corvetts on the freeway.

it is a fun power level on the freeway, but as a DD it takes too long to spool and a smaller turbo would be a lot more fun, especialy cruising through town.

My goal next year is to be at 5-550whp but given the celica will no longer be my DD and i wont be concerned with wanting it to be more fun in town.