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Raw Iron 1
07-23-2002, 06:55 AM
Modding your exhaust can't void your AC warranty. Installing an intake can't void an ECU warranty. Some dealers don't know the law. Some dealers know the law but won't abide by it. (they loose profit on warranty work). There are some dealers that know the law and abide by it but you have to find them.

The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act is federal law that does many things, including protecting the warranty rights of those who like to mod their cars.

Click, read, learn, fight back!

http://www.machvw.com/wilthesparvo.html

http://www.alternativeauto.com/waterbox/wb-archives/warranty.html

Jason

kocheroni
07-23-2002, 08:15 AM
welcome to: "they don't really care about that". No, in all honesty that's a good law, and I tried to use it in my warranty work, but they dont' care about that. Basically what it comes down to is what the "toyota certified mechanics" feel ist he cause. If you dont' get along, they will just say it's your fault, and the magnuson moss warranty act will only come into play in court, trust me. best thing is to be civil w/ warranty stuff.

Raw Iron 1
07-23-2002, 09:17 AM
Here in my state you can file a civil suite for $15.oo. As long as you have your facts strait you can fight it yourself here in court. I am in the process of collecting the necessary federal "case law" that upholds the warranty act. Also, you can contact the EPA if it is emissions related or the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) if it is non-emissions related. Both agencies have employees dedicated just to consumer automobile warranty complaints.

If you have not read both articles completey, do so, even I learned a thing or two that I did not know about the warranty act.

If you think that government won't help you you are mistaken. Back in the mid-80s my uncle Ronald took his 1975 Caprice to the inspections station. His hood latch was broken so he had the hood chained shut. The inspector would not inspect the car because the engine compartment has to be easily accessible by firefighters. So my uncle went home and took his hood off and went back to the station. The idiot at the station still would not inspect his car because it did not have a hood. The regs say that the engine compartment has to be accessible, it did not say that you have to have a hood. He contacted the state police and told them of his problem with the inspection station. The state police here run the inspection program and they know the regs. The trooper told my uncle to meet him at the inspection station. When he met him there the trooper asked the inspector why he would not inspect the vehicle. The inspector had an attitude with my uncle both times he went to the station and he had an attitude with the trooper. The trooper set the inspector strait on the regs and told him to inspect the vehicle or he and the station would be fined. My uncle's car passed inspection that day with flying colors while under the supervision of the state police.

Jason

SilverRide
07-23-2002, 10:21 AM
It`s my feeling that all dealers have full knowledge of the law.
However, thay are hoping/assuming that you don`t.

Just letting them know you are aware of your rights, will take them to court if nessary and make a public issue out of it, will often drastically change their attitude!