HAHA! Funny letter from Greddy. LMAO!

[David Draper]

I'm gonna try and clean up the presentation of this a little, so the bold stuff in quotes is theirs, and my comments are strewn throughout:

"I would just like to set the record straight, we do not dislike any vehicles, especially a Toyota. But I personally find the constant attacks of 2000-on Celica Owners Emails on this subject kind of repetitive and tiresome.

Me too, so start making stuff already!

The fact is, our President and founder of the company chose the name TRUST over 25years ago, because it closely resembled the TRD logo.

That would probably carry more weight if TRD hadn't opened in 1979....

He actually started off making Toyota Exhaust systems for Toyota racers. And if you search the history of GReddy and Trust you will see that the Toyota was one of the prime project vehicles we used. (In fact it is probably still the favorite)

We even raced Group C and Le Mans with Toyota LM C91, C92, & C93s. If you look at some of the older Japanese TRD Catalogs you will see numerous TRD-TRUST sponsored race cars.

Okay, I've seen those. I've seen Lola chasses on Toyota Indy cars too, but I have yet to see a single product for a street car.

It is just that the current Celica models do not lend themselves easily to street legal turbo kits.

And the RSX does???!!! Say what?! And it's trubo (TM)!!! No wonder they can't get it right!!!

And due to the fact that Toyota USA is pushing there own TRD products, Toyota USA does not support other aftermarket companies with loaner cars or technical assistance, like other companies (like Honda).

Ah!! The truth comes out! http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smile.gif

I have personally yet to have seen a good turbo kit for the Celica that does not remove the factory catalytic converter or can pass strict ARB testing.

Of course not. That would necessitate coming out of the cave. And don't dangle your participle!

I am not saying we will never make a GReddy Turbo kit for the Celica or even that we don't want to make a turbo kit, we just don't have the resources lined up at this time.

Of course you don't have the resources! They were already taken up by the RSX project!!! http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/mad.gif

Currently we have a lot of other projects we must complete first.

"Currently we have a lot of Hondas we must complete first."

Please explain to your fellow Celica Enthusiast, we are supporting the car.

What an insult! It's just me and one other guy that like the Celica! Sheesh!!!

We have just finished a great straight though cat back exhaust for the GTS and GT.

And we are working on air intakes systems for them as well. We have also been working on some street legal headers for the GTS.

Well whoopty-freakin-do! An exhaust and an intake. Gee, maybe in another 3 years you'll make another 2 things WE ALREADY HAVE LOTS OF!!!!

I hope you can let everyone know, GReddy wants to make great products for the car enthusiast, (that includes the Toyota Celica)

"I hope you can lie for us."

We love Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, Mitsubishis, & Subarus equally.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Thank you.
Mike

"Go away."

[Serika]

Hahahaa! That's great! I love how you picked on everything they said. Nice job!
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[VZV21]

I'm going to put words in Greedy's mouth...(in red)

"I would just like to set the record straight, we do not dislike any vehicles, especially a Toyota. But I personally find the constant attacks of 2000-on Celica Owners Emails on this subject kind of repetitive and tiresome.

Me too, so start making stuff already!

<FONT COLOR="Red">You guys are making it hard for me to drown out the voices of potential customers.</FONT c>

The fact is, our President and founder of the company chose the name TRUST over 25years ago, because it closely resembled the TRD logo.

That would probably carry more weight if TRD hadn't opened in 1979....

<FONT COLOR="red">Trust me</FONT c>

He actually started off making Toyota Exhaust systems for Toyota racers. And if you search the history of GReddy and Trust you will see that the Toyota was one of the prime project vehicles we used. (In fact it is probably still the favorite)

We even raced Group C and Le Mans with Toyota LM C91, C92, & C93s. If you look at some of the older Japanese TRD Catalogs you will see numerous TRD-TRUST sponsored race cars.

Okay, I've seen those. I've seen Lola chasses on Toyota Indy cars too, but I have yet to see a single product for a street car.

<FONT COLOR="red">Wait, we have a EVO exhaust for the Celica GTS...don't pull that crap on me.</FONT c>

It is just that the current Celica models do not lend themselves easily to street legal turbo kits.

And the RSX does???!!! Say what?! And it's trubo (TM)!!! No wonder they can't get it right!!!

<FONT COLOR="red">We have previous experience putting turbos on Hondas, not Toyotas. Do you have turbo upgrade kits available for the MR2 turbo and the Supra TT.</FONT c>
And due to the fact that Toyota USA is pushing there own TRD products, Toyota USA does not support other aftermarket companies with loaner cars or technical assistance, like other companies (like Honda).

Ah!! The truth comes out! http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smile.gif

<FONT COLOR="red">Did I say that? What I meant to say is we don't have enough resources to go out and buy a test vehicle</FONT c>

I have personally yet to have seen a good turbo kit for the Celica that does not remove the factory catalytic converter or can pass strict ARB testing.

Of course not. That would necessitate coming out of the cave. And don't dangle your participle!

<FONT COLOR="red">I'm sorry, your engineers do not have the "know-how" about modifying the stock exhaust on Toyotas. But rest assured, we will have one for the Civic and RSX soon.</FONT c>

I am not saying we will never make a GReddy Turbo kit for the Celica or even that we don't want to make a turbo kit, we just don't have the resources lined up at this time.

Of course you don't have the resources! They were already taken up by the RSX project!!! http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/mad.gif

<FONT COLOR="red">No....not really, We have to go back to the drawing boards and plan this out carefully</FONT c>

Currently we have a lot of other projects we must complete first.

"Currently we have a lot of Hondas we must complete first."

<FONT COLOR="red">Hey that's a low-blow</FONT c>

Please explain to your fellow Celica Enthusiast, we are supporting the car.

What an insult! It's just me and one other guy that like the Celica! Sheesh!!!

<FONT COLOR="red">Really we are....just in spirit..hehehe</FONT c>

We have just finished a great straight though cat back exhaust for the GTS and GT.

And we are working on air intakes systems for them as well. We have also been working on some street legal headers for the GTS.

Well whoopty-freakin-do! An exhaust and an intake. Gee, maybe in another 3 years you'll make another 2 things WE ALREADY HAVE LOTS OF!!!!

<FONT COLOR="red">More options available for you</FONT c>

I hope you can let everyone know, GReddy wants to make great products for the car enthusiast, (that includes the Toyota Celica)

"I hope you can lie for us."

<FONT COLOR="red">But now it will be the only Toyota, thank you very much</FONT c>

We love Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, Mitsubishis, & Subarus equally.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

<FONT COLOR="red">WE just happen to favor Honda more....pretty soon, a turbo upgrade for the WRX will be available</FONT c>
Thank you.
Mike

"Go away."

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[Slade_Templar]

I don't know why you guys are all crazy about a Greddy kit anyways... the one you would be looking at would probably be the TD06 (20G from Mitsubishi, yes all greddy turbos are made by mitsu) and the TD06SH kit has a lot of problems relating to overboost because of the relatively small diameter of the wastegate. Damn that was a run on =P
Do you know what overboost would do to the GTS? The TD06 wastegate has a problem opening before 15psi... and after 15psi the wastegate will open but most exhaust gas will be happy to continue through the turbine, therefore creating an overboost problem where your boost pressure will probably reach 17-18psi. Hmm, can you say broken pistons and rings? hell, broken everything!
So quit your bitchin about Greddy, and find a different company to make your turbo kit! I dont understand why you guys are all about Greddy... Garret makes the best turbos in the world because they have been around for SO ****ing long!

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[TRD-GT]

i say fuk greddy, who cares, evidently they dont want to make a kit for the celi, so what fuk them, u know what toyota is to bleme too....they doesnt support the aftermarket, period....

if trd comes out with something for the gts, i cant see it coming....

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[Kit99bar]

Dave kicks ass http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smile.gif

[silverceli2k]

lol, that was awesome!

[ArchangelX]

HAH..

I needed that...screw GReddy...****in' Honda loving bastiches..

Not that there's anything wrong with that..but if XS Engineering can do a Turbo..it's kinda funny that GReddy can't.

Hah! I think that says something about their work ethic...apparently they can't handle it. LOL.

It makes me want to get rid of their A/F gauge I bought.

[ringthree]

Dave man, this is your number one fan again. You were like cool before, but now you are like funny AND cool. YOU RULE!!!

You should start your own business cheering up Celica owners! Kinda like a 900 number. You could be like car-porn.

"Oh yeah baby, TRD is making a Turbo!"

"Low compression pistons are coming, honey!"

"I can get anything you want from Japan, darling!"

Ok, I have gone way off the deep-end. Time for some sleep.

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[TRD2000]

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[CloNeGTS]

Let's have a round of applause for Dave..........


I wanna see em box!

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[Dealer Xing]

I don't find the letter amusing. The Celica engine is very difficult to modify, it's a fact.

I hope Greddy won't stereotype Celica owners. Honestly even if Greddy have a Turbo kit, how many of you will buy it?

[philip52]

I don't understand how much more difficult the Celica engine is to modify compared to the RSX engine. I thought they both do not have a fuel return line (necessitating custom work to regulate fuel), and both of them have the exhaust manifold mounted behind the engine. I would have believed the reason there is not enough room, until I realized a few people have already fabricated turbo manifolds that fit. CR's are both approximately the same, so neither engine is more boost-friendly than the other. Seriously though, after hearing all the cons about Mitsubishi turbos, I don't think I would buy a Greddy turbo kit now. I'll save that money for a WCToyota kit.

[gts_hypertek]

The reason that greddy doesnt make a turbo or is even in the process of making one is because toyota doesnt lened them a car to experiment on. Like the letter said. I was at roadrace engineering and there was a new lancer you know that underpowered one well mitsu. lent them a car and now the lancer has a turbo kit out fot it, It is toyota fault for not lending them a car to experiment on.

[QWKsilvr808]

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Man that cracks me up. Greddy/TRUST really does make some damned good products tho, this really is unfortunate.

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[Spoon_BB1]

Here is a suggestion: Go find another company or WAIT!!

Bitching about it and posting topic like this is useless and wasting time. If GReddy decides not to make a turbo kit for the Celica then forget it. If they see a strong aftermarket for the Celica they will make it. They are not f*ucking blind, because they wouldn't get to where they are now if they are just bunch of stupid businessman.

And by all means, some of you are all just talk... "ummm yeah next year I will get it." And then when next year arrives... "ohh I have to buy wheels so next year for turbo." And then when another year goes by... "no I have this credit card to pay off and that loan and kids' lunch money"

Not putting anyone down or anything, but that's just how some people are, and I learned that from listening to Honda owners.

[GTS LAID]

HEHEHE>>> YEAH DAVE>.. thanks to "explaining it " to us fellow celica owners.. like I said before f*ck em... i'll sympathize a little on the TRD thing but sh*t thats what the company is supposed to do... UMMM HAVE YOU HEARD OF MUGEN... it makes the best parts for the honda... and it really pretty much is honda (they developed the s2000 hand in hand)...

This of course means that since MUGEN is already pushing their product there cant be any other makers of honda aftermarket accesories...

Remember microsoft... well it came out with an OS.. then it came out for software for that OS .. and guess what.. people never made any other software after that because they wouldnt give the other companies a loaner copy of windows 2000

what a crock of crap... anyway let em do whatever they want.. I dont mind waiting to tell you the TRUTH ( I picked TRUTH cause it sounds like TRD) ... I'll wait for the TRD stuff to come out...

And finally .. thanks for the manuals david.. as you can see they've been getting good use lately in the mods forum...

later..

[cbr600drm]

That guy must sit in his office all day thinking up stuff like that instead of doing anything useful.

[VZV21]

The 2002 Saab 9-5 Aero has a 20-second overboost feature in it's ECU's wastegate programming....for passing situations.

hahahah that was hilarious.

but as i said before, **** greddy. bunch of homos anyway.

[Carboy]

Flame me for this one!

You guys are starting to sound like a bunch of Club Si fools.

Always complaining and whining about it. If you guys want Turbo So bad, then go buy the XS kit. I'm not even sure if XS is publically selling the kit. If all the people on this board that is whinning about not having a Turbo would go to XS and ask "Professionaly" to finish working on the kit or sell it to the public, I'm sure they would. And then how many of you would actually shell out that type of cash to get it? Turbo charging a car PROPERLY does not come cheap.

Another thing, yeah, I understand you guys are upset about Greddy. But think about what kind of image you guys are giving out. Believe it or not, manufacturers do visit these types of boards, and seeing this type of behavior I'm sure does not go well with them. If anything, I think Larry should watch this post carefully because I think it's ruining this board's rep and credability.

Yea, I'm all for Turbos for you guys, but grow up.

Keyshawn is working hard to find stuff for you guys. He seems to be one of the few that actually takes this serious enough not to start harrasing manufacturers with hate mail.

Okay, ranting done

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we cut greddy plenty of slack even when it wouldn't confirm whether it was even researching or planning to research anything for the celica!

but then all that bull****, and then they turn around and whip out a turbo for the RSX, a car which has all the same problems that they said our cars had. cramped engine bay (probably more cramped than ours), high compression, etc. what, does honda make better catalytic converters or something? how is that RSX street legal?

altho i agree we shouldn't send them harassing e-mails. that just shows immaturity on our parts. we should hit them where it hurts. don't buy their products. (that is, if there were any products to buy). let 'em see how rich whichever company makes a marketable, streetable turbo kit for our cars gets.

<FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">This message has been edited by t2000gts on November 09, 2001 at 10:09 AM</font>

actually no XS isnt selling their kit publically yet..i tried to buy it already.. so that means we have essentially 0 choices right now.. unless you wanna go custom which god knows isnt a great choice 90% of the time.. but in due time our market will come http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/wink.gif

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[dawgg]

how many people on this board have the Greddy exhaust on their celica? I don't think many people do. Greddy is probably using the sales of their current celica products (which is only the exhaust heh) to guage the level of interest for additional Celica products (like a turbo). So they probably think there's little interest in the Celica community for their products. Where as in the honda community, their exhausts and other parts are in high demand. Greddy's point about competing with TRD is also valid. Other companies have mentioned that also. I would probably buy a TRD/Kazuma turbo kit over a Greddy kit. The TRD kit would probably have gone through a lot more R&D. So, having TRD, is probably hurting us... especially since they're super slow about coming out with products and are scaring away competition.

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[racinjason]

I agree I smell a fish when the RSX turbo kit is shown at a SEMA show less than 6 months after the car is released. Hell our cars have been on the market for 24 months now. I can think of a few thousand people that would be willing to give thier cars to Greddy for a while to build up a turbo kit! Other companies have no problems getting thier hands on a car to do some R&D/prototyping. It is much easier to get one from Toyota to fool with which is Toyota's fault. But it's still no excuse.

The sad part is Greddy is loosing out on a much bigger customer base by supporting us with only an intake/exhaust and possible header. After two years of being on the market. Hell it took RMM which is half the company Greddy is, about two months to come out with an intake and exhaust system. That's just ridiculous.

Acura expects to sell 25,000 RSX's a year. Compared to Toyota which sells about 50,000-55,000 Celica's a year. Hmmmmm which has more profit potential???? So why they ride the Honda booty right away is beyond me.

And the platforms are almost identical if you look at motor obsticles such as compression, room, etc. So that's a non factor to me.

I do sugest that we all act like adults and deal with this in an adult like manner or we will never see support from Greddy or other companies either. Nobody wants thier name dragged through the mud. And by acting stupid about this it will turn off no only Greddy from supporting our cars to HKS, APEXi, and many other companies. There are many ways to go about this without turning off our possible supporters.

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[David Draper]

Well, for those who thought I just sent a hate-mail, here's the original:

"I know you've already received several E-mails pertaining to the Celica regarding requests for some sort of forced induction option....and I know you have no plans to create one.

And that's okay.

I know that it's difficult to go where no one has gone before.

However, it may be worth mentioning to someone who cares, the Celica GT has already been turboed by several private individuals (see: www.hotchkistuning.com/images/cust_vehicles/bill/bill7.jpg (http://www.hotchkistuning.com/images/cust_vehicles/bill/bill7.jpg) and bill9.jpg).

XS Engineering has already attached a turbo to the GT-S. People know this. They aren't asking for the impossible. They're asking for someone to simplify the process.

In any event, there will be turbo kits for both the GT and GT-S, the GT in December and the GT-S in January.

Since you aren't alone in your disdain for the Celica, these will be the only bolt-on turbo kits available in the U.S. (to the best of my knowledge).

I can also tell you that, as only a dealership, we sell between $40 and $50,000 ($51,000 last month to be exact) in TRD and other Toyota performance parts every month; the vast majority to Celica owners.

I suppose my purpose with this letter, is to encourage you to keep an open mind about the aftermarket-worthiness of the Celica, and the future Toyota sports cars due in the coming years.

Just a heads-up,
David F. Draper
I.T. Manager"

When they say things like "doesn't lend itself to being modified", that really means "we don't want to work that hard".

If they would actually just admit that 80% of their new products will be for Hondas, and that the Celica was obviously not their main focus, and that they really don't care....that would be one thing.

However, instead of doing that, they're trying to BS people.

I don't think that's professional.

At any rate, I'm not one of the people "waiting on Greddy". I couldn't care less. There are other alternatives, and like I say, they should be available in the next couple of months.

[Keyshawn]

David Draper,
The email above that you sent expresses our concerns very reasonably and intelligently. I think you did a great job with that. I agree that GReddy is GREATLY underestimating us. Those hate mails other people sent were unfortunate, however I think we've done all we can do to let GReddy know that the demand for a turbo kit is FOR REAL. We'll have to look elsewhere for aftermarket support. I'm waiting anxiously for those turbo kits you are predicting for December and January. Hopefully, we aren't disappointed, as we've been with all these other companies so far. Keep representing for us, man! Great job!

<FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">This message has been edited by Keyshawn on November 09, 2001 at 01:34 PM</font>

[David Draper]

Originally posted by Slade_Templar:
So quit your bitchin about Greddy, and find a different company to make your turbo kit! I dont understand why you guys are all about Greddy... Garret makes the best turbos in the world because they have been around for SO ****ing long!



Yeah, which is why our GT turbo will sport a T28! http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/wink.gif

Can't wait!! I'm gonna go check on it today!

[ringthree]

Dave, that is what enraged me the most when I called both HKS and GReddy. It was the utter disrepect that they had for my intelligence as a car enthusiasts. They both brushed away my questions about why they weren't doing anything for the Celica as if I was a bothersome child. Then specifically when I was speaking with GReddy, I asked if they were working on the RSX, the guy on the phone giggled at me and said of course. Then after asking how they could work on the RSX and not produce anything of significance for the Celica when they both have the same problems, they said said with total disdain "Have you even seen the engine bay of a RSX" and holding back all of my anger I calmly responded that indeed I had and I questioned if he had even taken a look for himself.

This exchange is what motivated me to post orginially that we should boycott these companies. It is so hard to be respectful of these companies when show no respect to us.

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Coming Soon:
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JDM Toyota Silver color-matched shift knob
C-One hood scoop

[static]

I wonder what Greddy feels is harassment though. I sure hope for our part that our members are not sending out insulting emails. Please people, if you don't have the knowhow or vocabulary to write a decent professional email/letter.. DON'T DO IT.

But then on the other hand, Greddy might be getting lots of simple inquiries about a turbo for the celica.. and they see that as harassment because they have no intention of working on our cars whatsoever....

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[MarcMichaud]

Well, there is about 5,000+ NC.org Board members here. Why dont we all write a petition to toyota explaing how they need to help with the aftermarket. I know its a longshot but why not bring this problem to toyota. They dont lend any cars and the companies dont wanna pay for them. Thats all its about if toyota started to lend some cars out they would have more Aftermarket support. Somebody know who we can write too over at Toyota?

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[Spoon_BB1]

May I add that not all 5000 members here drives a Celica.

Simply not buying from GReddy would not hurt them much. Not many Celica has GReddy products anyway. You take away their Honda sales, now that would hurt them.

I say you guys should stop complaining and bitching about this until next year, let things cool down, and maybe the TRD kit would be out. Or, there might be something at the Tokyo Auto Salon in Jan.

I think every related GReddy turbo topics should be close.

[luv2rev]

Well...this just blows my mind...for one reason...

Why does TOYOTA not want aftermarket parts for their cars...especially the celica?

I mean...more aftermarket to me means more car sales cuz the younger gen luvs to mod their cars...I would think that they would have picked up from Honda / Acura...! That's why Toyota will always be #3 when it comes to that...Honda / Acura will always be on top!

That just blows my mind...and where's the kit from TRD that they have been promising for such a long time...?

I honestly don't think that you should be calling up nemore aftermarket suppliers...but call up toyota and trd and bitch to them...!!!! No wonder why the celica sales have dropped off the ratings...

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[oldster]

Originally posted by luv2rev:
Well...this just blows my mind...for one reason...

Why does TOYOTA not want aftermarket parts for their cars...especially the celica?

I mean...more aftermarket to me means more car sales cuz the younger gen luvs to mod their cars...I would think that they would have picked up from Honda / Acura...! That's why Toyota will always be #3 when it comes to that...Honda / Acura will always be on top!

That just blows my mind...and where's the kit from TRD that they have been promising for such a long time...?

I honestly don't think that you should be calling up nemore aftermarket suppliers...but call up toyota and trd and bitch to them...!!!! No wonder why the celica sales have dropped off the ratings...



What numbers are you using to support your statement that "Celica sales have dropped off the ratings..."?

[ArchangelX]

Damn Dave..

That was well put..Bravo...I like it..heh.

Show'em what's up.. http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

[tool462]

Originally posted by luv2rev:
Well...this just blows my mind...for one reason...

Why does TOYOTA not want aftermarket parts for their cars...especially the celica?

I mean...more aftermarket to me means more car sales cuz the younger gen luvs to mod their cars...I would think that they would have picked up from Honda / Acura...! That's why Toyota will always be #3 when it comes to that...Honda / Acura will always be on top!

That just blows my mind...and where's the kit from TRD that they have been promising for such a long time...?

I honestly don't think that you should be calling up nemore aftermarket suppliers...but call up toyota and trd and bitch to them...!!!! No wonder why the celica sales have dropped off the ratings...



Last I read, In Car & Driver I think... Whichever magazine recently had the comparison of the GTS vs. RSX-S vs. GS-T, Celica sales have actually shot up 300% over the 6th Gen Celica, and even with the predicted numbers for the new RSX-S, the GTS will still outsell it.

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2000 Liquid Silver GT-S
Mods:
AEM CAI // TRD Exhaust // RMM Front Strut Bar // TRD Rear Strut Brace // B&M Short Shifter

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[David Draper]

The new Celica is SO much better than the 6th gen.

Talk about a tough sell! $25,000 for a "sports" car that does 0-60 in 9.4???!! <IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm3.gif" border=0>

I'll be honest. I don't really think Hondas are bad cars. They really aren't.

But, I think the perception of a "Honda driver" drives many buyers to seek alternatives.....

The Celica is a great alternative. And as options continue to become available (Hey, Greddy's got an intake on the way! http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/biggrin.gif ), I think the Celica will end up taking the brass ring in the Sports Compact category.

[Johan]

David, sent them the e-mail retour like you eddided it with your command.........<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm16.gif" border=0>

[boxologist]

I hear Greddy has already started a trubo(tm) for the 2003 Tibby.:eek: