Celica GT-S vs. RSX Type-S

[parkeh]

My friend and I are arguing about which car is better: Celica GT-S or RSX Type-S. I know that Celica has better warrenty but RSX is faster and has better performance/spec.

How can I win this argument? I'm an avid toyota fan. After college I'm planning on buying Celica :) - I already have money, (as a HS senior) but i figure getting a Celica in 4 years would be better than buying it now and not able to drive it during college.

Help me win this argument

BTW, do you know any information on the 8th gen. Celicas? When are they due?

[po9i]

toyota changes the design about every 4 years, wait till you get out of college

[Arghman]

It all depends on what you what and what you like... That's like asking "What's the best guy in Street Fighter?' or "What's the best race in starcraft?"

[Luni420]

The RSX isnt necessarily faster than the Celica, it weighs more and it dont handle near as well. It needs more rear end sway protection, the rear is ass happy.

[Zorn]

There's something you don't hear every day! :D

Originally posted by Luni420
...the rear is ass happy.

[djm221]

I think that Edmund's comparison summed things up very well. The Celica pretty much wins in every performance department, but it is a little lacking on refinement, standard options, basically everyday nancy qualites which the RSX has. So, if you want the best performer, and the funnest car, get the Celica. If you want a nice daily driver that packs a pretty good punch, but is a little more "refined", get the RSX.
Oh, and the Celica looks better too:p

[HilfigerCelica]

There's an article in MotorTrend about this. I think it's the Dec. edition.

[yakkosmurf]

I say drive both and then decide. You can't really make a bad decision.

How does the Celica have a better warranty? Toyota gives 3 years/36,000 miles standard. Acura gives 4 years/50,000 miles standard.

[Brett]

Acura also doesnt cover misshifts, so your SOL.

[AkUmA]

Originally posted by Arghman
It all depends on what you what and what you like... That's like asking "What's the best guy in Street Fighter?'

:D

but on the topic, the celica brakes in a shorter distance than the rsx type-s. if and when the type-r comes that could be a different story. they are both nice cars. i just like the look of the celica a little better, but maybe if the rsx was drop'd it would look alot better.

[parkeh]

Originally posted by yakkosmurf

How does the Celica have a better warranty? Toyota gives 3 years/36,000 miles standard. Acura gives 4 years/50,000 miles standard.

Toyota Celica is covered by 5 yr/60,000 mile powertrain warrenty. Acura is covered by 4yr.

I read the Motor and Trends. I liked the article.

Thanks for replying.. any more things to argue with my friends about?

[Backroads]

Both cars have the same specific output and 0-60 and 1/4 times (to within a few 10ths or so). The GTS achieves this with a 1.8, 180hp, verus the RSX's 2.0 200hp. To me, that is impressive.
The GTS is around 400 pounds lighter, and is different in many regards because of this. Also, I think the RSX has ditched the A arm susp. which is too bad. No Acura dealerships in some states.

'01 GTS 6 sp.

[billybrun]

I have seen a lot of RSX's type S at the track and none of them has ever hit 14s. I always beat them really bad even with bad launches...

[simphmerj]

Best 1/4 mile time of 14.152@97.69

you got a slip for this?

does that mean you're the fastest NA (no NOS) celica out there ?

[Maelfyn]

Yeah he's the fastest... where have you been? :D

[Kit99bar]

not only does he have time slips, he has videos
http://brun1.home.mindspring.com/My%20Car/

yah, over at clubrsx, none of those guys have hit under 15sec. You coudl say it's cuz their not used to their cars yet...
but I learned to drive stick shift in March whe I got my celica and I hit a 14.8 on my first run at the track ever.. it was at a slow track too sooooo
remember when the rsx first came out and Ron said he saw a stock one do a 14.6?

what the heck was that?


Originally posted by simphmerj


you got a slip for this?

does that mean you're the fastest NA (no NOS) celica out there ?

[racinjason]

The Type S should win out in the straight line. But again is must be driven right to get the most out of it. I haven't raced one yet so i don't know. I'd take the Celica for interior, design, handling, and overall value. Considering with the cash you'd save with the GT-S you could get an intake and exhaust and still have dought left for a party that night!!! I am designing performance parts for them as well. So I have seen them up close etc. etc. And they don't impress me as much as my GT-S still does. Honestly reminds me of a bigger faster Neon. They are still nice though.

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by Brett
Acura also doesnt cover misshifts, so your SOL.
Not true. I know two Type R owners that misshifted and had their engines replaced under warranty. I haven't heard of any Type R owners who had to foot the bill themselves. Don't know anyone with an RSX and if they have problems with this.

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by parkeh


Toyota Celica is covered by 5 yr/60,000 mile powertrain warrenty. Acura is covered by 4yr.

I read the Motor and Trends. I liked the article.

Thanks for replying.. any more things to argue with my friends about?
Ahhh....powertrain. I wasn't talking powertrain warranties. The total warranty (covers everything) is only 3 years/36,000 miles for Toyotas. Do you know what a powertrain warranty does and does not cover? If you read the fine print, powertrain warranties are every exclusive. The engine or tranny has to almost completely fail to be covered. If you misshift during that last 10k miles in the Toyota, you might get covered when you wouldn't with Acura. But that's about it. A/C and stuff like that won't be covered after 36k miles on the Toyota.

[MarkyMark]

Originally posted by Arghman
It all depends on what you what and what you like... That's like asking "What's the best guy in Street Fighter?'

Guile, you fool!! ;)

[daSchtick]

Originally posted by yakkosmurf

Not true. I know two Type R owners that misshifted and had their engines replaced under warranty. I haven't heard of any Type R owners who had to foot the bill themselves. Don't know anyone with an RSX and if they have problems with this.

I thought you couldn't mis-shift a Type-R because it has a 5-speed.

(Okay, I'm really sorry, but I just couldn't resist:) )

[EuGeNiLe GTS]

yea someone posted a press release on clubrsx that said they wont cover misshifts.. not even the first.. maybe its just with rsx owners.. i dunno.. but that does suck indeed..

[racinjason]

I have seen alot of posts saying Acura isn't coving misshifts either. I have also talked with a track guy with a Type R that blew a motor at the track. Acura wouldn't cover that. He put a used Jap spec ITR motor in it instead. We're going to have to start pulling used motors and swapping them if we keep it up as well. By the end of three years half the people on this board have there cars modded where they void part or all of thier warrenty anyhow. Who cares.

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by daSchtick


I thought you couldn't mis-shift a Type-R because it has a 5-speed.

(Okay, I'm really sorry, but I just couldn't resist:) )
Any manual transmission could be misshifted. I prefer the Type Rs five speed over a six speed anyday. The gears match the engine perfectly. 6-speeds would just mess it up. I'd rather shift less. I don't drive it on trips anyway.

[ZZT 231]

well
i have an honest opinion
my friend just bought the RSX-S 6 speed
and i have the celica 6-speed
we traded cars 'cause we're both trust worthy
after driving the RSX-S
i realized something
1) if it's low end u'r talking about, RSX-S can kick the crap out of the celica
2)but at high end, when VVtL-i kick is, it's more power full than RSX-S
3)i find there's 1 thing wrong with Hondas, their turning, there's way too much body roll compared to the celica, the celica offers a much smoother turn on aggresive corners
4)as far as the looks go, RSX-S can just eat $hit, it's ugly as hell compared to the celica
5)the interior, i like the RSX-S better, common, it's a new car, they have new designes, i like the A/C knobby thing and theguage and the steering, the streering feels a bit smaller
5)but..., sorry to disappoint u guy, the RSX-S a bit faster, me and my friend raced a couple of times, it varies from 1/4 a car length to 3/4 a car length

well
this is my review
hope it helps guys

[ringthree]

Originally posted by MarkyMark


Guile, you fool!! ;)

Guile was for the people that couldnt use Ken and Ryu. PUH-LEASE!!! Ken and Ryu kicked ass.

[BRAK]

BLANKA WAS THE BEST ..... love the electricity. ken and ryu missed there uppercutt .. and when they come down SHOCK! lol

[Raulvargs]

E. Honda niggaz

[JjAnGxB0i 143]

i have a video of a GTS and Type-S racing. i actually got it from another fellow newcelica member but anyways, it shows the GTS wasting on the RSX-S. a lot of it depends on the driver too but the race is totally dominated by the GTS. the RSX-S barely starts to catch up. and this isn't a 1/4 mile race - it's like a 22 second race so i'm guessing first one to 120mph or so...

[chrissi24]

Originally posted by ZZT 231

5)but..., sorry to disappoint u guy, the RSX-S a bit faster, me and my friend raced a couple of times, it varies from 1/4 a car length to 3/4 a car length

[/B]

A guy that we know owns an RSX-S also and we seem to beat him just about every time we race. Once he beat us, but that was because my boyfriend missed second gear.

But, like someone just said, it all depends on the driver.

The RSX is a great car, but I'd rather have my Celica!

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

Yah foo Ken And Ryu are the best..........jeez..........Guile is 2nd...and terran is the best race in starcraft!!!!!

[Kry]

ken and ryu own3z

[Kry]

celica vs rsx celica own3z

[Brett]

Im gonna have to disagree. Protoss is a much better race in StarCraft :chuckle:

[ShaffeRSX]

what's up everybody. i love my car so i'll jump in. i think it would be a driver's race(i love that answer). but seriously, ivtec kicks in a lot harder now that i have the intake. i feel confident that i'm faster, but a good driver would most definitely waste me. acura doesn't cover misshifts cause acura drivers know what we're doing.;) anyways, it's obviously ken who is the best, ryu never stood a chance.

[BRAK]

acura doesn't cover misshifts cause acura drivers know what we're doing.

Fist of all is that an insult to us? Did you forget what car manufactures have the most riced out cars? Do you not see the videos on the net of rich punk rice boys missshifting there cars and saying "oh sheet" LOL ... my friend i advise you to take a look at www.clubrsx.com and see how many blow there engines.

What you should of said is that--- Acura does not cover misshift because they know what there costemers will be doing with there car "beating the **** out of it (this includes your rice boys)"
There nor stupid to think your gonna leave an car that is supposed to replace the integera stock!
Wise up and if you come talkin smack here again POST A TIME SLIP ..... you cant just say my car "duh" feels faster.


PROVE IT DOES

P.S We get that same feeling just like any frickin car when you put an intake in, .... do ya think its gonna give ya more kick ... YA!

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

dude ken was a biter :evil:

[ShaffeRSX]

Originally posted by BRAK


Fist of all is that an insult to us? Did you forget what car manufactures have the most riced out cars? Do you not see the videos on the net of rich punk rice boys missshifting there cars and saying "oh sheet" LOL ... my friend i advise you to take a look at www.clubrsx.com and see how many blow there engines.

What you should of said is that--- Acura does not cover misshift because they know what there costemers will be doing with there car "beating the **** out of it (this includes your rice boys)"
There nor stupid to think your gonna leave an car that is supposed to replace the integera stock!
Wise up and if you come talkin smack here again POST A TIME SLIP ..... you cant just say my car "duh" feels faster.


PROVE IT DOES

P.S We get that same feeling just like any frickin car when you put an intake in, .... do ya think its gonna give ya more kick ... YA!
holy crap man, lighten up. good lord, i hang out with celica people every weekend, they're my best friends, so i know quite a bit about the celica. I WAS JOKING. get a sense a humor. i think everybody else got that. sorry if i offended anybody with my ken statement, and he was not a biter.

[ArchangelX]

Humor is really hard to get across on the internet sometimes...

Ya gotta watch it...cuz people are more ready to flame you..

Just the way it is....

And I could whoop all yo azzes with Dhalism....betta recognize!!!

YOGA FLAME!!!

Oh..and...

LOOKS FAST kicks RSX-S ASS. :D

(the preceding was an opinion filled with humor)

[ShaffeRSX]

dhalsim's got nothing on ken. shoryken! haha.

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by ZZT 231
2)but at high end, when VVtL-i kick is, it's more power full than RSX-S
3)i find there's 1 thing wrong with Hondas, their turning, there's way too much body roll compared to the celica, the celica offers a much smoother turn on aggresive corners

Too bad the dynos don't support number 2. The RSX tops out with more HP at its peak.

Yes, the handling of the Celica is better. There is noticeably less body roll than the RSX. However, it's wrong to compare it to all Hondas. The ITR, S2000, and NSX have less body roll and better handling than the Celica. Beating the Civic and RSX in the handling department is not a great feat.

Edit: I changed this to read what I meant to say. I'm tired this week.

[borpph]

Originally posted by yakkosmurf

Yes, the handling of the RSX is better. There is noticeably less body roll. However, it's wrong to compare it to all Hondas. The ITR, S2000, and NSX have less body roll and better handling than the Celica. Beating the Civic and RSX in the handling department is not a great feat.
Yeah, but then again you're comparing the celica's handling to cars that are up to 4+ times the cost of the celica. (the NSX is what I speak of) For the price and value of the celi, you can't beat it. :)

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by borpph

Yeah, but then again you're comparing the celica's handling to cars that are up to 4+ times the cost of the celica. (the NSX is what I speak of) For the price and value of the celi, you can't beat it. :)
I mentioned the Hondas that were better handling. The ITR is was in the Celica's price range in 2000. It beats the GTS and is a better value (by your terms).

[tripnotic]

I drove my friend RSX-S, I don't feel alot of confident when turning the car fast(30-40mpg). It feel like a lot of body roll in the back. The clutch is very light and the stick is loose. Overall, I still like the celica better because it more sportier but the RSX-S wins this one on a 1/4mph run on a tad bit.

Originally posted by Arghman
It all depends on what you what and what you like... That's like asking "What's the best guy in Street Fighter?' or "What's the best race in starcraft?"

Terran now, it cheaper to build stuff now but I still like zerg. I hate hacker who just play for record and not for skills.

[DnDs00GTS]

Chun Li all the way... love how fast her leg moves when she kicks!! ;-)

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

are you sure yakko I thought the rsx had more body roll also it felt more figety under hard cornering

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

I never miss an upper cut!:angry:

[PoweredbyRICE]

chun li...gotta like the thong

[Kreeper_GT]

The celica has more comfortable than a RSX, its an awsome ride too and u'll probally get more girls looking at a celica than an RSX :)
the RSX is only performance no real enjoyment in the ride and it looks almost like every other acura except the NSX and the seats r uncomfortable.

i went up against a type s with a GT and i have to admit the RSX is pretty fast.

Well the final decision is yours. a more enjoyable ride or a fast car
besides if u save up more money u can get a turbo charger, XS engineering has one for the GTS

too bad it doesn't have one for the GT

i'd love to smoke a few preludes :)Driving cars that make heads turn

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by Auto[BoT]_GTS
are you sure yakko I thought the rsx had more body roll also it felt more figety under hard cornering
It definitely had more body roll than the Celica. After test driving the RSX-S, it was clear to me the Celica was the better handling car. I corrected my mistake in the earlier post. The words just came out wrong. Sorry for the confusion.

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

yah thats coo cuz it seemed off