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larryd
12-10-2001, 02:58 PM
ok Im tired of all this **** going on around here and people talkin behind my back.. so here it goes..

about a month ago, on 11-13-01 I went out for a drive around 11ish like I normally do becuz Im bored. Im pulled out of my developent, turned left.. ran 1st gear and put it in 2nd was driving in 2nd at about 50mph when something jumped out in front of my car.. I saw it and hit my brakes..unfortunately without ABS the tires just locked up instantly.. The car was sliding towards this animal.. not sure wth it was (bigger then dog, maybe a small deer).. anyhow as I was saying the car was sliding towards this animal and at the last second I spun the wheel sideways and went off the side of the road where I went through 2 bushes and into a lake.. its a run off drain for rain, but its about as big as a small lake and about 10ft deep. Anyhow by the time I realized what happened I could see the water up on the hood and it was inside the car up to my knees already. I pushed my seatbelt off and opened the door and pulled myself out of the car. I fell into the water up to my neck and started swimmin as hard as I could. The seatbelt caught me and almost pulled me back to the car but I kicked my way free and swam away. By the time I pulled myself up onto the ground out of the water the car was 90% under. I tried to call 911 but my cell phone was in my pocket and obviously didnt work anymore from the water. So I sat there and tried to wave down cars as they passed by.. 11 at night, there was only like 5 cars in about 10 min span and only one stopped.. He didnt have a phone but siad he would call when he got home.. I watched my car go completely under helpless, nothing I could do about it. I finally got pissed with the passers by that wouldnt stop and walked to a close house and knocked on there door. They gave me dry clothes and called 911. I waited till the cops came.

thats about it.. the car is totaled..18,500 in damage not including the engine. Now Im fighting the damn insurance company to pay off the car.. Its been a month and nothing yet.. I didnt want this posted here because I dont want it to be an insurance liability.. But its out now anyhow so whatever.

I bought a new car 2 weeks ago. Its a 98 Eclipse GST Charcoal i color.. I was gonna buy another Celica but the dealership was an ass and they wouldnt budge on price.. Hell ask Draper, I was thinkin about importing a Celica from California but said **** it.. Anyhow thats what happened..

That is why posts referring to me have been disapearing and users have been banned becuz they are asses and there out to try and hurt me and I wont put up with that.. if you dont have a clue what Im talkin about the post im referring to is below..

http://celica.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001625

one last thing.. parts for sale.. there are a few things I was able to pull off the car.. Ill be listing them in the for sale forum shortly..

oldster
12-10-2001, 03:00 PM
Thanks for clearing up all the rumors. Very sorry about your car and the best of luck with the new ride.

Oldster

Blk00SS
12-10-2001, 03:03 PM
Larry,

God damn. I know i can't say anything that's gonna make you feel alot better but we're all glad you weren't dragged under and killed. Good luck with the Insurance company and the new car. Think of it this way.. The celica may be gone but look what has replaced it.. A car with an Aftermarket.

The Anti-Rice
12-10-2001, 03:16 PM
So does this mean you're going to let us back in the Moderators Only forum now?

The Anti-Rice
12-10-2001, 03:18 PM
Not trying to sound insensitive by that last post. I know this already got brought up in the Mod Only forum, so I don't see any reason to add anything more to the car story itself.

Zorn
12-10-2001, 03:21 PM
Sometimes life gives you lemons. You try to make lemonade, and someone has to piss in it. Good Luck.

GTS LAID
12-10-2001, 03:24 PM
Sh1t I should've told him to delete his own post when i saw it at like 5am... Anyway... I like the NC.org forum much more than any others cause of the size of its member base, but just like carlos could've talked to larry and asked him about it privately, larry could've talked to carlos about it privately after deleting the post. In either case whoever told carlos is an ass cause larry said that no one should say anything cause b/c of this insurance business.

His situation is already delicate as it is without people going on and claiming fraud and stuff. How could you even think of larry doing such a thing after all the money he put into his car. And if it was fraud, why didnt he take very salvageable pieces of euqipment from the car that were obviously ruined... even if he wanted it to look real there is more than enough there to prove it was real.

I think that no matter what's happened to what members we're all i support of larry getting his new ride and getting the claim money for his other car. No one wants to pay for a car that was forced to the bottom of the lake by a bastard dog. So just like I said although i dont support larry completely in banning carlos (could've talked to him)... I do support him completely in his deleting the posts to protect his interests from anyone who's just itching for a reson to ill-legitamize a perfectly legitamate claim.

Amjed

celica70
12-10-2001, 03:28 PM
damn larry, im so sorry for hearing that, that is crazy, at least you got out of the car alright.

Drew
12-10-2001, 03:41 PM
".......sit right back and here's a tale, a tale of a mighty ship......" Glad to hear you finally let the cat out of the bag there Gilligan. Just remember what I told you...don't get a DVD Navigation system in the Eclipse...get sonar :silly j/k

GTS LAID
12-10-2001, 03:45 PM
hehe...

one of the projects i worked on last year in biomedical engineering was an HUD IR nightvision system similar to the cadillac one but higher res.


When's your birthday again???hehe

oldster
12-10-2001, 03:53 PM
I'm still out of work, the best I would be able to do are those little whistley things you glue on your bumper. Since you now have a GST it won't hurt or affect the looks. J/K:)

sideshowbob
12-10-2001, 03:53 PM
Larry,
I work for an insurance company. If you feel like they are ****ing you around, let me know. I can hook you up with what the insurance law says about stuff like this.

P.S. Sorry to hear about your car, and good riddance to an NC.org waste of posting space.

Mjolnir
12-10-2001, 04:08 PM
Well, that certainly sucks. Look at it this way LD, The celica seemed to be cursed anyway. Sure I would have hoped that you would have bought another Celica, but whatever...doesn't mean this site still can't be for devoted celica fans (whether you own one or not).

Too bad they totalled the car. I thought with fresh water they could salvage this kind of thing. Guess not.

i once saw a guy's jeep get sucked under while he was driving on a sandbar...

What about your sponsors. Will they jump over to a GST project car with you?

ps. Will we miss Carlos, maybe....and then again, maybe not.

Blk00SS
12-10-2001, 04:14 PM
Carlos was banned? Hahahhahahahaha

nmyeti
12-10-2001, 04:51 PM
Sorry to hear about that larry... insurance is a pain in the rear, but it will all work out in the end i would hope...

As a side happy note, welcome to the boosted side of life. My best friends are DSM guys mostly, and if you need any advice, these guys really know their stuff... let me know.

Maestro
12-10-2001, 05:12 PM
Mate !
Dont listen to wankers like Carlos nor let him get to you, I dont know this *** but if he were in Australia he'd be a kangaroo's sexual toy thats for sure.

Sorry to hear about the loss of the car....damn sweet ride you had. But I hope the insurance pulls through and ya have fun with the new car....go hard turbo man.....don't get them type's downunder but im sure it drives decentely.

Take it easy and a big Cheers ta ya !


:D

MarkyMark
12-10-2001, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Maestro
if he were in Australia he'd be a kangaroo's sexual toy thats for sure.

What are you talking about? He's already a kangaroo's sexual toy over here:p :D

CeLicAxTrD
12-10-2001, 05:57 PM
just like to tell you...not to be an ass or anything but mitsubishi eclipse sucks...due to crank walk which happened to me adn mine is a 97 GS-T...thats why im geting rid of my car...

larryd
12-10-2001, 06:06 PM
I love the Celica to death still.. Infact i wanted to buy another Celica but the dealerships wouldnt budge on the price so I said screw it and got the other car that I always wanted.. the Eclipse for which I hve lots of plans.. Crankwalk..eh.. I hate that word..its evil as for the website.. I will not lose interest.. Hell i just flagged down another Celica owner tonight and talked with him for an hour about parts.. I love Celicas and half my friends still own Celicas so nothing with the site will change..

If anyone is interested Ive taken lots of pics of the Eclipse already.. Ive bought some mods too.. This car is fun, but has some serious issues.. but then again what car doesnt right :)

racinjason
12-10-2001, 06:06 PM
Good. Now we can all get on with our lives.

larryd
12-10-2001, 06:08 PM
btw, here are a few pics of the Eclipse..

<img src="http://www.newcelica.org/temp/pic15.jpg" width=640 height=480>

<img src="http://www.newcelica.org/temp/pic29.jpg" width=640 height=480>

MarkyMark
12-10-2001, 06:16 PM
looks good...U couldnt find an X in your area?

DaksGT
12-10-2001, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by MarkyMark
looks good...U couldnt find an X in your area?
This ones faster on the highway :D.
But damn larry, **** happens thats all I can say, best of luck with the new car and keep us/me posted on the work that u do to it, I'm sure it'll haul ass.

Anyways once again, good luck bro and stay safe.

larryd
12-10-2001, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by MarkyMark
looks good...U couldnt find an X in your area?

in almost 2 weeks of looking I found about 5.. 4 of which the dealer wanted 20k+ for them.. rediculous about it.. and the other was just a plain POS.. I was coming back from looking at the one GSX when I saw my new car.. I love it, when the color hits it it changes.. its soo nice.. youd have to see it in person to apprecaite it :)

The Game
12-10-2001, 06:59 PM
Damn, I thought this was gonna be the helicopter story again.:confused:

Sorry about your car dude, I will soon be joining you. I'm gonna get rid of my GT and I looking for a GS-T or GS-X. Which ever one comes as a convertible I'm planning on getting.

po9i
12-10-2001, 07:08 PM
yo im sorry to hear that, your car was seriously the car that got me thinking about hooking up my celi, anyhow i bet that eclipse must be fun to drive, yet it is not a celi :(

MarcMichaud
12-10-2001, 07:09 PM
Larry,
I cant believe that happened. My sympathies with you. Your Celica has always motivated to do more with my car. I cant believe this, this always happens at the worst times. Best of luck with the Eclispe hopefully in the near future a new celica will be in your future. Best of luck.

Marc

larryd
12-10-2001, 07:24 PM
thanks for the replies guys.. I appreciate it.. What I have to keep telling myself is what the cops told me that night.. Im lucky to be alive and thats all that matters.. life goes on.. Now I just want to get done with the insurance company so I can go on with my life..

racinjason
12-10-2001, 07:44 PM
LOL I can race you in my Mom's GS-T! ;) Ready for a rematch at Cecil???

kuno
12-10-2001, 07:54 PM
Damn Larry sorry to hear that happend to you :sad The insurance companies can be asses 99% of the time, that's why I havn't reported any of my..misfourtunes to them. Hope you have luck with them.

Oh and its weird..but I got a GST also, its red and its a 98 and I've also got a celica gts. Unfortunately the gst is an automatic =( because it was the only one available within 50 miles in ok condition.

gts24
12-10-2001, 07:57 PM
Larry, just very glad to hear that you are ok. If anything... get a lawyer to help you with the insurance people,, if it really comes to that. I mean, they've got lawyers workin for them...... Look forward to seeing what you do with the new car and some new posts in the racing forum :cool:

DopeGTS
12-10-2001, 09:46 PM
I really have no point in what I'm about to say. But I feel like letting it off my chest. This goes to everyone arguing back and forth. Some people make mistakes and don't realize it. What business is it of anyone on what happened to Larry's car? Or even what carlos said? That's between him and larry. People point fingers and blah blah blah. To be quite honest I think some people on here might take what they have for granted. NOT EVERYONE, some people. I'm a owner of a auto gts and have nothing done to it other than a custom exhaust. I could barely afford that. Some of you people have a lot done to your cars and it's nice to see that you worked for it. But, if you go at it with a attitude like it's nothing than you don't really know how to live life. I myself want a lot of things and have to work hard to get what I want. I can't just go and spend 200 dollars like that. I'm not lookin for sympathy I'm just saying. With everything going on in the world right now and it becoming the holiday's why should we even bother on something so pointless? I mean some peoples lives are involved here. You all can flame me or do what you wish but just remember most of you are luckier then the next guy... Have a happy holiday season....

Jesse IL
12-10-2001, 10:10 PM
Yeah it sucks that Larry lost his car. I also think this is another example of how things are handled poorly around here sometimes. Larry, if you truly were trying to avoid a deer and the car slid into a retention pond, then that is the situation and who cares what people who weren't there and who may hold grudges against you think. I personally think it looks worse that you are going around "covering up" all this stuff. I also can't agree with banning people from this site for having a difference of opinion. It is Timeport's right to say what he wants. People seem to like it when the membership count goes up, and NC.org is featured in magazines like SCC, but then they run the site like tyrants and ban whoever they don't like. IMO, if you want to run a truly great site, the owner/moderator has to remove himself personally and emotionally from what is said and follow a set of rules. I think the Xanatos thing was a good example. While I agree that the guy was a problem, I feel that people picked fights with him and weren't sanctioned in the same way that the moderators were sanctioning Xanatos himself.

Larry, I truly wish you the best of luck with your insurance company and with your new car, but I also think that if you want to be the owner of the largest Celica site on the Internet, you better be prepared to take some flak from time to time, whether its justified or unjustified.

larryd
12-10-2001, 10:18 PM
Carlos was not banned becuz of his opinion of my accident.. Carlos was banned becuase he copied and pasted my conversation with moderators from mods only which means in some part some way he managed to find out what was being said.. and I dont tolerate that. Its his opinion on what happened with my accident and he is entitled to that, but not having part to do with the hacking of my website and my account which was deleted this afternoon..

I also understand as the owner of this website I will have to take flack from time to time but coming on here and accusing someone of a criminal offense is not a joke. This is very real people and we are talking serious consequences if the insurance company decides that the truth isnt the truth.. There isnt anything I can do about it but keep telling them over and over exactly what happened and hope they believe me, and having you doubt me on here does not help my situation..

Spec GTS
12-10-2001, 10:37 PM
all i can say is WOW, i didn't have a clue wut happened but damn that suxs Larry. All that hard work, time, and dedication is all gone. ur celi was one of the badest one's i've ever seen and now it's no more...and now u gotta deal wit the insurance company to which i kno is a pain in the a$$... i fully support u and i hope everything works out for u in the end. oh and nice car u got there...hehe.


Paul

XtremeRacer
12-10-2001, 10:42 PM
Hey larry, sorry to hear all the **** thats going on, alteast its good to hear your safe. Hopefully everything clears up and you can enjoy your new ride, which i'm really jeolous of. It looks really sweet, and i can't wait till this summer for me to get a GSX or GTS. Still debating...Anyways goodluck.

Karim
12-10-2001, 11:05 PM
hey larry glad your ok man, congrats on the new ride and good luck with the insurance company. keep your head up man i'm sure things will turn out on the good side for you.

Karim

atehrani
12-10-2001, 11:05 PM
Damn Larry, that sucks big time!!! You're seriously lucky that you got out alive. Its almost as if you were cursed with that car. You had the best looking Celica around its a shame it got totaled.

DrivenFast
12-10-2001, 11:06 PM
Sorry to hear that Larry. I'm glad you made it out okay. God bless man.

larryd
12-10-2001, 11:18 PM
thanks :)

SlasherX
12-10-2001, 11:52 PM
I got your back bro. I believe ya 110%, i know you loved that car and i'm sorry to see this happen to you and it. I'm coming home for X-Mas break on the 23rd until the 2nd or so..we should all hook up again, i'd love to see the new DSM.

R.I.P. Larry's GT-S..it was THE nicest celi i've ever seen.

evil eye
12-11-2001, 12:40 AM
sorry about the car larry, it was definitely beautiful... good luck with the GST i've heard some horror stories bout the eclipse... dope color though, seen a couple like that by me... anyways i figured id check out ure board again, its been months since i posted here, im a reg. on celica.net, some of you i recognize...anyways just wanted to say sorry bout ure ride bro, good luck

pinoyracer
12-11-2001, 01:53 AM
Larry, glad your alright bro

As far as those back stabbers, don't worry LD, we got yo back

icyjaws
12-11-2001, 05:31 AM
I didn't want to know :silly

FISH
12-11-2001, 05:45 AM
Insurance peeps always give you a hastle.I had to deal with one company for three mishaps.All three times they wanted to do a investigation.They drove me nuts with the crap they told me.

Chumpchiggy
12-11-2001, 07:33 AM
Larry,

You're blaming Carlos for the hacking but... what proof do you have? You give Carlos too much credit... I know he doesn't have the skills to do that. Should you have banned him... Not my place to say... but, it's your site, and you do what you want.



Mr. Hacker,

If you have any balls at all, fess up and get dealt with. You're a real big man, hiding behind your monitor. Why don't you step out and claim your prize? Because you're a little hoe who would get dealt with...

Ever since I was made an Admin, I've been made a target of attacks in PM's on Xanatos site, by people on the boards.... But I took it all in stride because I enjoyed my possition on the site, and swept the haters to the side.... well, I'm sick of it. Consider me ghost....

This is my last post on this board untill I get some answers from Larry or any other person who deems himself Man enough to step up...

Chiggy - The Disgruntled & Pissed off

djm221
12-11-2001, 07:53 AM
Just don't be posting any sub 13 sec timeslips anytime soon. :cool:

cruzerz545
12-11-2001, 07:54 AM
We have enough proof to prosecute someone if we wanted to, lets keep it at that.


Originally posted by Chumpchiggy
Larry,

You're blaming Carlos for the hacking but... what proof do you have? You give Carlos too much credit... I know he doesn't have the skills to do that. Should you have banned him... Not my place to say... but, it's your site, and you do what you want.



Mr. Hacker,

If you have any balls at all, fess up and get dealt with. You're a real big man, hiding behind your monitor. Why don't you step out and claim your prize? Because you're a little hoe who would get dealt with...

Ever since I was made an Admin, I've been made a target of attacks in PM's on Xanatos site, by people on the boards.... But I took it all in stride because I enjoyed my possition on the site, and swept the haters to the side.... well, I'm sick of it. Consider me ghost....

This is my last post on this board untill I get some answers from Larry or any other person who deems himself Man enough to step up...

Chiggy - The Disgruntled & Pissed off

WillyWonka
12-11-2001, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by larryd
in almost 2 weeks of looking I found about 5.. 4 of which the dealer wanted 20k+ for them.. ridiculous about it.. and the other was just a plain POS.. I was coming back from looking at the one GSX when I saw my new car.. I love it, when the color hits it it changes.. its soo nice.. youd have to see it in person to appreciate it :)

Kudos on the GSX...saw it...nice look esp. the color...admirable replacement for the old Celica

LimpMasterJ
12-11-2001, 08:02 AM
I wanna know how I became envolved in the hacking scandal thing. I woke up at 2pm yesterday(work? what work?) and as soon as I got online I was interrogated by Peter(aka static) like I knew wth was going on. I NEVER know wth is going on. So what did happen anyway? I'm lost... :D

Btw, sorry to hear about your run of bad luck Larry. :(

Chumpchiggy
12-11-2001, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by cruzerz545
We have enough proof to prosecute someone if we wanted to, lets keep it at that.




Then why don't you freakin call them on it! :mad:

Instead of deeming Static and Myself "untrustworthy" as Admins here. Like we'd ever comprimise the integrity of the site...:mad:

We devote as much time to this place as ANYONE does if not more... but we're being blamed for it....

If you've got the proof... then pour the pudding... Prove to me why "I" should be at fault for this... and you can kiss me goodbye forever...:mad:

HanweiGotRice
12-11-2001, 08:34 AM
First of all, no one's kissing anyone here. No Begging either.


In all seriousness though,

We all know the 'story' now...of what happened to Larry's car, of who's been banned, and of who's being blamed for the hacking. But if Chiggy and Static have both denied responsibility for the hacking, or anything, publicly, then I think Larry should owe them proof. Chiggy and Static have done their job well. If they're being blamed, show the proof.

And no excuses like "I don't want to make the proof public, etc etc"...Brian is ASKING for you to post proof.

I dunno man. This site is fukking awesome. I've learned so much about my car, and met so many chill peeps. Now this soap opera comes about and one of the oldest, chillest people get banned, two chill admins get blamed for something they deny responsibility for...this sucks.

Well, of course, this is Larry's site and his word is the only word. But please don't let this site get filled with anymore animosity. People WILL lose interest in this site very quickly. And it would be absolutely terrible if this site went to hell.

Work this sh!t out. Please.

Hanwei

larryd
12-11-2001, 08:39 AM
no one is blaming either of the admins for what happened.. but I can tell you that there were 3 posts copied from moderators only to general discussion and the only people who have that right are the moderators and the only active accounts are static, chiggy and myself. I know that they didnt do it, I also know who did do it, and from what account but at this point in time I can not trust anyone to have an admin account other then myself until this whole ordeal is done with..

I still trust Chiggy adn Static as if there family and I hate to piss either of them off, but this is not a joking matter, this is serious..

Johan
12-11-2001, 08:46 AM
So, if I understand it the right way, the only reason why they are no longer moderator ( for the moment ) is because
Larry had problems with the hacker and he wants to find out how this guy did it. Therefore he had to "stop" all the other moderators for a while.

I don't see the problem and don't understand why Chiggy is so upset. He's not blamed at all !!!!!!!!!!!!

larryd
12-11-2001, 09:05 AM
u got it.. and btw.. they both have their admin accounts back now..

PaCelicaGTS
12-11-2001, 09:44 AM
just out of curiousity, if you "know" who did it then why am i still not allowed in the mod only forum? Am I the one you think it is? If so your completely wrong, i have no clue how to move a post. Oh and Larry, No I am not the one who talked to Carlos

HanweiGotRice
12-11-2001, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by larryd
no one is blaming either of the admins for what happened.. but I can tell you that there were 3 posts copied from moderators only to general discussion and the only people who have that right are the moderators and the only active accounts are static, chiggy and myself. I know that they didnt do it, I also know who did do it, and from what account but at this point in time I can not trust anyone to have an admin account other then myself until this whole ordeal is done with..

I still trust Chiggy adn Static as if there family and I hate to piss either of them off, but this is not a joking matter, this is serious..

cool. I just hope this stuff is settled soon you know? Good luck on all your troubles.

Hanwei

4.6POWER
12-11-2001, 09:58 AM
Tough break larry, but look at the bright site, you got a GST!! Allow me to be the first one to post the link to www.clubdsm.com After you get through with tough times, you'll need it! Might have been worth taking a look on www.dsmtrader.com for a car too, I'm not sure what you were looking for as far as options.

About the crankwalk... Many shops will now do the 2G->1G motor swap. Jeff Hill at turbo trix just did his first car and estimates labor to be 1000-1500 + parts. Used Evo motors from Japan are readily available with ~30K on them and are ~1200 including shipping. So, if you had not already known this, you have options so that you may never have to worry bout the good old c walk. take care ;)

Joe

yakkosmurf
12-11-2001, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by larryd
Carlos was not banned becuz of his opinion of my accident.. Carlos was banned becuase he copied and pasted my conversation with moderators from mods only which means in some part some way he managed to find out what was being said.. and I dont tolerate that. Its his opinion on what happened with my accident and he is entitled to that, but not having part to do with the hacking of my website and my account which was deleted this afternoon..

I agree with your decision to ban Carlos. You can't tolerate stuff like that on a site like this. If you let it go, the site falls apart. I would have banned him.

groundrocker
12-11-2001, 10:41 AM
damn, sorry to hear about you accident Larry. just glad you're alright. must have been some scary sh*t seeing that thing get closer. I almost hit a baby deer the day before yesterday. I didn't see it till it was about 5 feet in front and about a foot to the side of my car. I had no time to react cuz i was going 100mph cuz I was in a hurry. Scared the sh*t out of me, so I decided to slow down.

LEAVECIVICSINTHEDUST
12-11-2001, 11:35 AM
Yeah Larry, sorry about things are going, but they can only get better.

And as for banning members thing, its your site, you do all the work, and if someone wants to come and f#ck with you for no reason at all except for them just being a d!ck. F#ck them and ban them! It doesnt bother me at all and probably doesnt bother 95% of the board either.

Ryan

RedNOSceli
12-11-2001, 12:15 PM
Larry--Sorry about all the sh*t thats happend. Good luck with the new car, and even better luck with un-insurance company..

I remeber looking at this site in August 00 before I bought mine seeing your car thinking, I want one just like it..Now its gone..kinda strange in a way.

CeliChick
12-11-2001, 12:17 PM
sorry bout your car... can you unban my other name now? you can keep me banned from the gof, i just want to be able to post everywhere else. its been at least 2 months, and i think i've been punished enough :rolleyes:

t2000gts
12-11-2001, 12:37 PM
i think this entire situation is messed up. first of all, if you've been here long enough, even just by viewing the boards everyday (like me) i dunno how you'd even comprehend larry messing up his car for insurance fraud. it's kinda ridiculous really cuz he had just recently gotten most everything (engine/tranny) back under control...

i can't believe people would act like such asses when something like that happens to someone like larry. he loved his celica probably more than most other people here loved their celicas. you can ask anyone who's lost their car or had it messed up for a period of time how ****ty it feels. watching your baby drown while soaking wet and shivering is like some horrible nightmare. you'd have to pay me way more than what an insurance company would give to get me to even think of doing something like that. who cares if he drives a GST now? you heard how hard he tried to get a celica again, but everyone knows toyota dealers are assholes. honestly, anyone who says he shouldn't run a celica site anymore cuz he doesn't own anymore should just shut up. larry's done way more for the celica enthusiast community than anyone else, and knows a ****load more about this car than most other people.

i don't think he should've banned timeport (i'd just have talked to him), but that's me. i'm not him. he's entitled to whatever he wants, and i believe he was fair enough if he had apparent evidence someone was hacking his site (That's another nono, people hate it when you hack their site, i speak from personal experience) and he could've linked it to timeport (but i dunno if he did or didn't, and i dunno much else, which is why i still think he should've discussed it with timeport rather than ban him BUT if he had plenty of reason and like i said, it's his site. i'll take it like it is and support him).

GTS LAID
12-11-2001, 01:34 PM
great post t2000 ... it might be a good idea to lock this one up for good on that note.... happy to see most of things were resolved.

adams_hands
12-11-2001, 01:37 PM
What is this about... Larryd's new ride, Timeport getting banned, ppl hacking into the site, or Static and Chumpchiggy's reputation? **** man, this is messed! What do we know for sure? Personally I don't care about Larry's new car and insurance problems, nothing personal, just that's his business and I have a life. What pisses me off is there are some ppl out there triing to ruin things for everyone else.

Zorn
12-11-2001, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by adams_hands
What is this about... Larryd's new ride, Timeport getting banned, ppl hacking into the site, or Static and Chumpchiggy's reputation?

Some people need help with reading.

ringthree
12-11-2001, 02:07 PM
Man I feel sorry for anybody that is on vacation...

Drag'nGT
12-11-2001, 06:26 PM
All these "I'm sorry's" don't help.

I can't get my car away from my mom until Jan.

I know exactly how you feel. You have a car, but it's not what you want and you have this person in control of your happyness. It's f*cking crazy but.... anyway. We all love ya bro. And don't get too down.

What's that GS-T running? Do you think it's faster than the Celica? Even if it is you still want your car back. I know how it is bro.

What will those Racing Hearts cost me??? :) I want those for the new car...if my mom keeps her promise.

Darkwind
12-11-2001, 07:15 PM
Holy crap!, I hadn't check the site for a few weeks and all this happened?! Larry man, I know it's kinda late, but still, sorry to hear about your car. I went into a small canal once too. Not 10ft deep though. About 3 inches of the roof stuck out from the water in my case, but yeah, it sucked royally. Sorry to hear that. Glad you're ok though.

Oh the side note, that pic that Xanatos posted up on the celica.net site was plain wrong. That kid needs a big kick up the ass.

pensfan83
12-11-2001, 08:49 PM
Man, I leave the forum for a couple of days and all this ish happens.

Larry, my deepest sympathies about your car. On a lighter note, welcome to the Mitsu club.

oodolbyoo
12-11-2001, 10:19 PM
Sorry about the Celica. GST is sweet though. Thanks for the help on parts and other stuff

Chris A
12-12-2001, 01:03 AM
Larry My heart goes out to you.. As a fellow former Celica owner I can understand the thoughts you must of had knowing that every thing did for that car and all the pride and fun that car gave you is now gone...

Take care My sad day (http://people.we.mediaone.net/arlt/PB020204.JPG)

O2BQIK
12-12-2001, 01:07 AM
Larry,

Never met ya in person, hardly spoke to ya on here. But I can say that I know what it's like to lose something you care about, even if it's an inanimate object. That car was your blood sweat and tears, just like mine have been mine, and i can't imagine how it would feel to have people bashing on you like that.

This die-hard Chevy-lover will cross lines and stand with you anytime.

ty

ps- you're still a few cylinders short though... ;) :D

Diesel949X
12-12-2001, 02:23 AM
After reading through all of this drama about the accident and the finger-pointing...

Those of you who criticize Larry for ditching the Celica for a GST need to fsckin get a life. A car is nothing more than something to get you around...and like other material positions, you can't take it with you when you die. Larry D should be fortunate that he was not killed in that accident. Yes, he lost his baby, but it is not the end of the world. At least he has another day to wake up to. Put yourselves in that position. What if the next day your Celi was no more? Just because he owns a different make does not mean that everything he knows about the Celica went out the door...

We all know that Toyota dealers are a bunch of pricks...I believe Larry 110%.

As far as the hacking incident and what was posted over at celica.net, that was some real fscked up issh. Too bad they don't have the huevos to step up to Larry in real life like that...they feel invincible behind a computer screen. They got what they deserved.

Oh yeah, last time I checked, computer hacking *is* a crime, even if it is "just a board."

static
12-12-2001, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by ringthree
Man I feel sorry for anybody that is on vacation...

Yeah.. you think!?! :rolleyes: :)

CelicaDetective
12-12-2001, 12:16 PM
Larry's life behind the wheel is much like a video game, say Grand Theft Auto 3 or something.... except he is not a criminal, but he's done things people like myself would only do in video games... like try and outrun the cops and stuff :) but this site is great, my purpose here is to educate myself about the Toyota Celica 2k+ even though I don't own one. I am a car lover, and I belong to a few other car message boards of vehicles that I really love. The Celica being one of them. This has always been a resourceful place to me, but GOOD information on the Celica has lacked for a long time since the REAL performance market is stuck in first gear for the Celica 2k+.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks for this wonderful message board, it brings interest to my boring life :)

Mike

zooq
12-12-2001, 07:53 PM
sorry to hear about the car Larry.
hope you have fun with the GST.

hollywood
12-12-2001, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by ringthree
Man I feel sorry for anybody that is on vacation...

yea i havent been on for a few days and im lost!?!?!?!?!

Cubador
12-16-2001, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by hollywood


yea i havent been on for a few days and im lost!?!?!?!?!

me 2:rolleyes:

MCMike37
12-17-2001, 03:13 PM
Damn, I just noticed in another post there was a 2G Eclipse in your sig larry. Was wondering what the hell was up, now I know. That sucks hardcore to lose your car like that, but as you eluded, even though the car is gone and you weren't able to get a new Celi, you walked away from the whole thing in one piece...

Anyways...glad you finally saw the light and got a good car.

Ha, just kidding guys...:p

yakkosmurf
12-17-2001, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by MCMike37


Anyways...glad you finally saw the light and got a good car.


Yes, thankfully he got a good car. One of those fast GS-Ts. Not the crappy non turbo GT.

MCMike37
12-17-2001, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by yakkosmurf
Yes, thankfully he got a good car. One of those fast GS-Ts. Not the crappy non turbo GT.

Touch

dragonfrog
12-17-2001, 04:24 PM
Hey. I guess now we know. But it didn't really mattered to me. I had even forgotten about it. I understand how you feel. When my fiancee's little brother wreck the previous celica, my emotions were incredibly jumbbled. Happy that my fiancee wasn't in the car, sad because he destroyed the car and my work, and pissed because he basically stole the car and the prosecutors wouldn't prosecute because it was family. So we had to file under collision/comprehensive to get any money, which shot the insurance high. (As you can tell, i'm still a little pissed.)

Anyhow, everyone looks on the bright side and life goes on. BTW --- don't we have some lawyers as a sponsor?? Why don't you use them?

yakkosmurf
12-17-2001, 06:14 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MCMike37
[B]

Touch

MCMike37
12-17-2001, 08:07 PM
WEll yakko, I know how hard it can be for you just to grasp the concept that one leg goes in each pant leg, so I wanted to make sure it was well set-up for you.

Ok, I'll stop with the mindless drivel in larry's thread, sorry, needed something to do...:D

larryd
12-17-2001, 09:38 PM
hehe.. u guys make me laugh :)

djTOY_2000
12-18-2001, 03:58 AM
fack man.... totally messed up with what happened and TRUST ME .... i know how you feel towards others saying "fraud" !!

you may know how my celica broke down about a month ago and within 5 hours it was stripped because i was the ****in' stupid ass thinkin' it'd be safe till mornin'

now... the whole area where i live knows about it and what happened and so forth.... an of course... a lot of rumors have been flying around about ME possibly committing fraud .......

TOTALLY NOT TRUE !! (i mean.... they ****in' caught the two guys... arrested 'em... charged 'em both with felonies and recovered some of my stuff..... so before you talk about it know the true facts !!)

these rumors have circulated so much to the extent that people down in portland, oregon (biggest city around me - 50 miles away) know and have heard of it - people i don't even know !!

anyways.... rumors do suck big hairy...sweaty... balls !! i feel ya

glad you're still alive too

good luck with the new ride LarryD !!!

(also...even when i was up in seattle, Wash for HIN back in the late summer.... i was talking with some guys from Injen technology and they even mentioned your name..... i guess in the import car scene you are a very well known guy and thats hella cool !!)

daSchtick
12-18-2001, 05:07 AM
Wow Larry,

It sounds like you had a night from hell. I'm sorry to hear about your Celica, as it was one of the sharpest looking cars out there. In fact, I'm having a hard time adjusting to the new photo in your sig, with that stock Mitsu from wayyy back in the 90's with the big balloon tires on it! I sure hope she likes to dance, cause she's not the looker ex was. ;)

Good luck with your new project, and don't spend all of your money on it. lastly, I hope you can remain a Celica fan, even though you may run with a new crowd.

-Nick

yakkosmurf
12-18-2001, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by MCMike37
WEll yakko, I know how hard it can be for you just to grasp the concept that one leg goes in each pant leg...


That's why I wear skirts to work.

Capt. Croissant
12-18-2001, 07:21 AM
now that's a visual I could have lived without

yakkosmurf
12-18-2001, 07:24 AM
What's wrong with a smurf in a skirt?

nocarbon
12-18-2001, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by yakkosmurf
What's wrong with a smurf in a skirt?

Oh, it's verrry wrong...
http://www.shu.ac.uk/schools/cs/packmj/images/smurf.jpg

larryd
12-18-2001, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by daSchtick
Wow Larry,

It sounds like you had a night from hell. I'm sorry to hear about your Celica, as it was one of the sharpest looking cars out there. In fact, I'm having a hard time adjusting to the new photo in your sig, with that stock Mitsu from wayyy back in the 90's with the big balloon tires on it! I sure hope she likes to dance, cause she's not the looker ex was. ;)

Good luck with your new project, and don't spend all of your money on it. lastly, I hope you can remain a Celica fan, even though you may run with a new crowd.

-Nick

yeah I know it doesnt quite turn the heads the way the Celica did but give me some time.. once I get wheels, kit, hood, and lowered the heads ill be turning again :)

yakkosmurf
12-18-2001, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by nocarbon


Oh, it's verrry wrong...
http://www.shu.ac.uk/schools/cs/packmj/images/smurf.jpg
What a great pic! You and your mom look so cute together.

nocarbon
12-18-2001, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by yakkosmurf

What a great pic! You and your mom look so cute together.
Dude, don't insult me, that's my dad.

MoogieBoogie
12-18-2001, 10:24 PM
I personally dont think that Larry should have told anyone about his car situation. Sure, it would be obvious that you switched cars eventually, but why share all the details? If you want that info to be hidden, then keep it hidden. I dont think it was wise to post on a Internet message board, regardless of whether that forum was restricted or not.

If I were in Larry's case, I wouldn't have told anyone, aside from a few close friends over the PHONE or in person, until this whole insurance mess was settled.

All the speculation as to what really happened; well, I'm gonna believe what Larry says. Why not? People probably didn't know the situation well, thought that Larry was going through all sorts of problems with his car, and thought he did what they probably would have done.. commit insurance fraud.

As for Timeport, I'm surprised that he wasn't banned earlier. By not having him around, what are we missing out on? Audio hookups? Blatant racism? I thought Timeport was valuable to this board because of his knowledge in car audio, but I certainly didn't appreciate the racist comments.. I'm surprised that Larry didn't do this earlier, and he probably should have taken some action.

Anyway, interesting what happens when you leave for a month.
-Brian.

larryd
12-18-2001, 10:39 PM
well since u were gone for a month u didnt notice I did try and keep it from the board.. I told very few of my close friends what happened and within weeks people we online messging me asking me what happened to my car.. I posted in moderators only to ask them to delete posts as they came up and they wanted to know why so I told them, ofcouse then the site was hacked and the post was copied to GD for eveyone to read.. nice of em huh :)

MoogieBoogie
12-18-2001, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by larryd
well since u were gone for a month u didnt notice I did try and keep it from the board.. I told very few of my close friends what happened and within weeks people we online messging me asking me what happened to my car.. I posted in moderators only to ask them to delete posts as they came up and they wanted to know why so I told them, ofcouse then the site was hacked and the post was copied to GD for eveyone to read.. nice of em huh :)

Sounds like your friends spilled the secret..

Oh well, you got what you wanted initially, so all works out, right?

CONCEPTXYR
12-23-2001, 09:12 PM
omg ive been at clubwrx.com when i heard a rumor that larryd had lost his car i did not belive it


man that sucks hard i saw your car at etown once i feel you pain man


good luck with the gst

larryd
12-24-2001, 01:29 AM
rumors of my loss on clubrsx??

oldster
12-24-2001, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by larryd
rumors of my loss on clubrsx??

Think he said WRX.

larryd
12-24-2001, 03:15 AM
oh well same diff.. dude it bugs me out.. my name and car are known on the internet.. its kinda cool but its scarey at the same time..

HilfigerCelica
12-24-2001, 03:32 AM
Yeah man someone IM'ed me today thinking I was you asking about the accident. He was asking for pics and everything. I think it would bug the sh!t out of me if everytime I get on the computer, there's someone asking questions. You must get a billion IM's a day.

CONCEPTXYR
12-24-2001, 05:44 AM
yeah bro i was reading thru the race fourm in a wrx vs gts post and someone made a weird coment about the red celica from newcelica.org being trashed

so i was like no way larrys car NOOO


and to my dismay it was your baby.

yakkosmurf
12-24-2001, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by larryd
oh well same diff.. dude it bugs me out.. my name and car are known on the internet.. its kinda cool but its scarey at the same time..
I know what you mean. Sometimes I find my reputation preceeds me. But that's mostly my fault. :D

oldster
12-24-2001, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by yakkosmurf

I know what you mean. Sometimes I find my reputation preceeds me. But that's mostly my fault. :D

So does your d!ck but it doesn't make it that big a thing. :D :D

djTOY_2000
12-24-2001, 12:45 PM
"yeah bro i was reading thru the race fourm in a wrx vs gts post and someone made a weird coment about the red celica from newcelica.org being trashed"

could this have been a rumor about my car possibly ?? i mean...larryD's celica was.... well... drown'd i guess you can say.

mine was trashed too at about the same time and it is red also !!

(but i think LarryD has the upper hand on being so well known...hint the word " the " in the quote)

just wonderin' ..... where is that page at - post it , i wanna read it !!

larryd
12-24-2001, 07:06 PM
yeah it does drive me nuts.. i mean I try to be as nice as possible when people IM me but no one seems to realize the amount of people that IM me and ask me the same thing over and over and over again..