How much power (hp) can my GTS gain ?

[carlos18]

how much power can my gts gain 230 hp 300 hp how much , can it be safe or not 2 put that emouth of hp on the engine ?


My celica is all stock the only thing it has is a k&n filter and the TTE suspencion kit its the celica gts(tsport in europe) 192hp but in the dino test it reveled 205hp :D

[yakkosmurf]

205 at the wheels? Yes, the GTS has a tad more power in Europe, but something is wrong with the dyno if its reading that.

[Impulse]

He must mean at the crank.

[oldster]

Originally posted by Impulse
He must mean at the crank.

He pulled his engine to get it dynoed?:confused:

[Impulse]

Noooo. Ok, I'm making assumptions here. I assume he had it dyno'd, it said he was getting about 178 at the wheels. So in taking the customary 15% dirvetrain loss that puts it at about 205 hp at the crank.

[oldster]

Originally posted by Impulse
Noooo. Ok, I'm making assumptions here. I assume he had it dyno'd, it said he was getting about 178 at the wheels. So in taking the customary 15% dirvetrain loss that puts it at about 205 hp at the crank.

Where is the 178 number mentioned?

[Impulse]

I meant the dyno MIGHT have said 178 if my assumtion is correct (i.e. 178(.15)+178=205). It's just common sense, how could it be 205 at the wheels on a stock car? Even a euro spec car? The 192 hp of the euro car is rated at the crank, just like the 180 hp of the US spec car is rated at the crank. So if his car is stock the 205 has to be at the crank.

[oldster]

Originally posted by Impulse
I meant the dyno MIGHT have said 178 if my assumtion is correct (i.e. 178(.15)+178=205). It's just common sense, how could it be 205 at the wheels on a stock car? Even a euro spec car? The 192 hp of the euro car is rated at the crank, just like the 180 hp of the US spec car is rated at the crank. So if his car is stock the 205 has to be at the crank.

Let's see:

1. The dyno might have said 2,000 but he said it was 205 so how could you assume anything else
2. Using your numbers it doesn't come out to 178 anyway, 178= 85% (using your 15% loss assumption)of X so X equals 209
3. We already used common sense, we questioned that he could get 205 at the wheels from a stock Euro spec Celica
4. We know where the HP is rated from the factory
5. It doesn't have to be 205 at the crank, he could be BSing us
6. I'm just pulling your chain for fun, sooorrrrryyyy :)

[Impulse]

I figured you were :).

[carlos18]

At the wheel its 178,5 hp if somebody telsme how 2 put the dyno here i will do it

[Toaster]

just post the dyno results!!!

[carlos18]

The car has 205 hp at the wheel 178,5 the rest is on the engine ,
max speed 257 km/h in 6

[Kit99bar]

can you please explain this part?

Originally posted by carlos18
The car has 205 hp at the wheel 178,5 the rest is on the engine

[carlos18]

The car has 205hp in total , 178,5 hp in the wheels the rest of hp is not losing arround right they have 2 by some here and thats the engine or the crank like you say, my american is not 2 good

[ceLL-ILL-cA]

why is it that the euro spec celica has more HP? what does it have in it that is different than the us spec?

[celica gte racing]

i think the TS has bigger brakes and better suspensions, other then cabin differences, like digital climate control and stuff

[yakkosmurf]

I think he is guessing about the crank number (205) based on the dyno of 178 at the wheels.