View Full Version : I saw non-Shell Truck filling up Shell gas station.
Dealer Xing
12-21-2001, 06:59 AM
I have been seeing trucks that do not have the same logo of the Gas station filling up their tanks. WTF. Are we getting ripped off? How in their truck has 3 levels of Octane gas going to one tank or if it is one truck for each type of gas? Can someone explain?
CeliRacer
12-21-2001, 07:05 AM
Most Gas stations are privately owned. So even if the gas station Is a Name Brand Station, It all depends on where the owner wants to purchase the gas from. That owner might have found a cheaper place to purchase the gas, and decides to save some money. I've seen some Mobil stations get gas from an Arco Truck.
XtremeRacer
12-21-2001, 07:09 AM
I dunno why they have different logos, maybe they are owned by the same company, but i've talked to a guy that drives those gas trucks and fills the stations, they told me that they do carry the different levels of gasoline in the same truck. Its in different compartments or something and they have 3 different set of hoses for each. But he says that since there is all three in there but in different compartments, that sometimes the different levels mix alittle with eachother but he says it doesn't really make a difference.
Dealer Xing
12-21-2001, 07:19 AM
Next time I go fill up I'll say once in a while I'll pay you the price of 87 for 93, it doesn't really matter.
GTS LAID
12-21-2001, 07:36 AM
I found this to be a shock too when i first saw the same phenomenon. I was filling up at a cheap gas station in my old car and said something to the effect that i dont care if bad gasoline goes into it. Some-how the manager or someone heard me and came over and explained to me how every single gas station on rt 18 (in east brinswick) gets their gas from texaco... I found that amusing but its never been proven wrong. Those are the only trucks I see on 18. WEIRDDD!
Keyshawn
12-21-2001, 09:39 AM
Yeah, I noticed that this Unocal 76 station near my house gets it's gas from tanker trucks with "United Oil" written on them.
torisup27
12-21-2001, 10:39 AM
:confused: :rolleyes: is it just me or why can't we all just get along and develop ONE gasoline standard for all car manufacturers so all cars fill up with ONE gasoline. No more 86/87/91/93...etc. Why not ?? :confused: why not ? Good idea huh ?? Can you imagine the trouble for DMV/insurance/auto-related industries if there's three types of VIN ?!! :confused: :rolleyes:
Dealer Xing
12-21-2001, 10:55 AM
I think you missed the point, the point is if Shell or Amoco advertise their gas has certain formula and how it is better than others, then why a truck from no name company fills up their gas tank?
nxracer
12-21-2001, 01:05 PM
CeliRacer: If a BP/Amoco, Mobil or Shell station was to ever buy gas from someone other than their "brand" they would not be in business very long.
O and just so you Arco is Mobil and it's now Exxon/Mobil.
As for the trucks I'll try to explain.
In most areas the Truck is owned by a trucking company not the oil company. Lest say a Mobil station needs gas. THey order it from their distributer, the trucking company gets an order, drives to the Arco/Exxon/Mobil tank farm, picks up the load of fuel and delivers it to the station.
kuruptgt
12-21-2001, 01:36 PM
i worked at a sunoco and the gas gets mixed at the pump. the truck has 2 compartments one for 94 the good stuff and one for the 87. when u want 89 at the pump the 87 mixes with a little bit of 94 and woila 89 when u want 93 the 87 mixes with a little more 94 and so on. and as for brand name companies they have to use there gas they can't outside contract or else they wouldn't be a mobil etc. the same applies to a station that doesn't carry 94 they just mix the 93 with the 87 to get say 89 and so on
Originally posted by nxracer
In most areas the Truck is owned by a trucking company not the oil company. Lest say a Mobil station needs gas. THey order it from their distributer, the trucking company gets an order, drives to the Arco/Exxon/Mobil tank farm, picks up the load of fuel and delivers it to the station.
A friend of mine was working for one of those trucking companies. The only difference to this is that all, ALL of the gas comes from the same place (at the source - refinery)...then Mobil / Chevron etc. add in whatever they have formulated as an 'additive' (techron) - which is what you said as far as the tank farm, that's what differentiates gas.
nxracer
12-21-2001, 01:52 PM
Zorn is correct! now you have the whole story.
Bottom line: Gas is Gas it's the additives that make it different
torisup27
12-21-2001, 02:07 PM
how different ? :confused: I still think we should have one single gasoline there shouldn't be a number to it. That way nobody is better than anybody:D
nxracer
12-21-2001, 02:42 PM
Just so you know a couple friends of mine took Z06's to the dyno and BP/Amoco 93 makes 10 horsepower on that motor. Two runs a couple weeks apart. First runs one Z06 (of the three) on Amoco was +10, a couple weeks later the three returned all on Ammoco, all pulled about the same numbers.
SlasherX
12-21-2001, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by nxracer
Just so you know a couple friends of mine took Z06's to the dyno and BP/Amoco 93 makes 10 horsepower on that motor. Two runs a couple weeks apart. First runs one Z06 (of the three) on Amoco was +10, a couple weeks later the three returned all on Ammoco, all pulled about the same numbers.
that "test" doesn't show anything. go dyno your own car one day, then the very next day dyno it again without any changes. it will not dyno the same exact number day to day...period.
people read way too much into dyno readings, they're far from an exact science.
larryd
12-21-2001, 11:00 PM
i know when i was back in hs a friend of mine worked for a local gas station and told me to NEVER EVER buy the premium plus octane there becuase it was same as premium.. they didnt change anything except the name and price..
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