View Full Version : It seems strange the GT only uses 87 octane
Maelfyn
12-22-2001, 09:41 PM
Do all 10:1 compression cars use 87 octane? I would think I would need higher octane for that kind of compression... at least 91 or something. The GT-S has 11.5:1 and uses 93 octane but is only a 1.5 higher. What kind of compression is normal for 91 octane? It seems no car ever recommends 91. Only 93 or 87. :confused:
z6joker9
12-22-2001, 11:08 PM
hehehe, mine does... powerchip instructions specifically say not to use anything under 93 after it's installed ;)
just because it needs to be higher doesn't mean better... if indeed i am running too high octane i'm not getting full potential cause it doesn't burn it all...
i thought the gts recommended 91 to 93?
think higher octanes are better? go drop 104 in your car and see if you can pull out a low 15...
people use 104 either cause their engine burns that hot cause it's a drag only car or they want to turn up the boost(which we dont have :mad: )
Maelfyn
12-22-2001, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by z6joker9
think higher octanes are better? go drop 104 in your car and see if you can pull out a low 15...
I'm positive I can run a 14 but no tracks are open~ I doubt higher octane will help me. If anything it might work against me. Octane simply dictates the resistance of the fuel to combust.
DaksGT
12-23-2001, 12:37 AM
I'm not gonna rage another octane war but nothing under 91 ever went in my car.
DaksGT
12-23-2001, 12:37 AM
and I'm pushing 126.7 at the wheel stock
Maelfyn
12-23-2001, 12:46 AM
Okay... so would 91 be reasonable in a GT? I would think a GT might combust the a/f mixture prematurely with 87. Perhaps Toyota markets it as 87 octane for marketing purposes? Is this common practice by some companies or even remotely possible?
oldster
12-23-2001, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by Maelfyn
Do all 10:1 compression cars use 87 octane? I would think I would need higher octane for that kind of compression... at least 91 or something. The GT-S has 11.5:1 and uses 93 octane but is only a 1.5 higher. What kind of compression is normal for 91 octane? It seems no car ever recommends 91. Only 93 or 87. :confused:
Don't know about eveyone else's but my GT-S calls for 91.
Maelfyn
12-23-2001, 03:12 AM
Really? haha all my goober friends fill up with 93 :D
Symbolize
12-23-2001, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Maelfyn
Do all 10:1 compression cars use 87 octane? I would think I would need higher octane for that kind of compression... at least 91 or something. The GT-S has 11.5:1 and uses 93 octane but is only a 1.5 higher. What kind of compression is normal for 91 octane? It seems no car ever recommends 91. Only 93 or 87. :confused:
So what do you do if 91 is the only highest available in your state ?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Maelfyn
[B]Do all 10:1 compression cars use 87 octane?
No
I would think I would need higher octane for that kind of compression... at least 91 or something.
Compression ratio is not the only factor in choosing a proper octane rating...more important is cylinder head design...for example a design that reduces hot spots in the combustion chamber can get away with lower octane fuel.
What kind of compression is normal for 91 octane?
There is no 'normal'...it is a matter of design. Toyota knows what the stock motor needs to run properly, trust them.
oldster
12-23-2001, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Symbolize
So what do you do if 91 is the only highest available in your state ?
You read my previous post. :)
DaksGT
12-23-2001, 10:57 AM
92 is the lowest i ever put in my gt
Johan
12-23-2001, 11:10 AM
In Europe it is advised to put in 98 octane by Toyota.
We only have here 95 and 98 octane.........................
:) :) :)
DaksGT
12-23-2001, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Johan
In Europe it is advised to put in 98 octane by Toyota.
We only have here 95 and 98 octane.........................
:) :) :)
Bastards I love europe and its respect towards cars
oldster
12-23-2001, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Johan
In Europe it is advised to put in 98 octane by Toyota.
We only have here 95 and 98 octane.........................
:) :) :)
I'm really not sure but maybe the octane rating method is different?
Deaks2
12-23-2001, 06:13 PM
In Europe they measure octane by the RON number, and noy by the average octane rating.
So 98 octane Euro gas is about 91-92 octane US-spec gas...
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