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BoyRacer
12-25-2001, 06:16 PM
Well, Friday night there was aminni celica meet here in S. Fla. afterwards we headed to the illegal races out on highway 27. we got there arouns 11:30 and the FHP showed up at about 12:30am. About 50 FHP blockaded a miles stretch of road going and coming back from the illegals, there was no way out. about 350 cars got busted so they say 172 got tickets, and some went to jail. my bro and I got a ticket for being there. the cops were appreantly racing undercovere in a audi TT quatro convertible believe it or not! and he was pretty damn good. well my and my bro made the sunday news paper front cover in the miami herald, you cant see me soo good but you can see my brother. it was pretty kewl to see the article, although it sucks that we have to pay the ticket. the pigs wouldnt let us leave until 5:30am saterdya morning. it sucked, adn it was frezzing , we had to stand, it sucked royally. I did get to see a super charged 5.0 stroker (11-12 second car) get its ass kicked by a civic hatch back though!

CeliRacer
12-25-2001, 06:20 PM
Thank goodness that I decided to go to work instead of going to US27. I've would've been screwed from going to my job.

oreo
12-25-2001, 06:20 PM
that sux... but it is illegal. there is always a chance your gonna get caught.

tagurit
12-25-2001, 06:27 PM
welcome to my world of little street racing due to busts. But i have one question....why would you even go to the races the following weekend after that street racing accident in FL with the kid and his mom. That was all over the place. You guys should of known something was going to happen. If you read on the internet, SD,LA, Phila. and now FL have cracked down on street racing. It was only a matter of time. What kind of ticket did they hand out?

coOOlcelica
12-25-2001, 06:34 PM
Sorry to hear that man....

DaileyDog
12-25-2001, 06:36 PM
for a little more detailed info: http://www.miami.com/herald/content/news/local/dade/digdocs/003456.htm

i like the part in the story where they say that everyone was respectful and no weapons or alcohol was found. i'm not a fan of street racing but i also know it's not populated by heards of hoodlums. every group has a-holes, of course, but i did think the racers conduct was positive

autxr
12-25-2001, 07:08 PM
You must be a real friggin idiot if you were busted by a "pig." Not many animals are dumber than they are.

If a pig wallows in it's own filth and you were dumb enough to get caught by one, where does that leave you on the evolutionary scale?

Scott

PS: I have several close friends that are "pigs" and I assure you, they are all smarter than you are (by common sense and educational standards).

oreo
12-25-2001, 07:21 PM
wow now that i actually know more about it that really sux. people got tickets for just watching what's up with that? i mean really, it's illegal, but still watching it is illegal? what kind of ticket do they give you, i'm sure since the scene is getting bigger, things like this are going to become more common, but what do you ticket someone watching with? don't they need evidence, or an eyewitness that see's you speeding?? sorry it's such a long reply, but this now bogles my mind. :confused:

amicek
12-25-2001, 07:28 PM
its possible that the people in cars that didn't look like they were adaquate for street racing didn't get tickets. the cops may be assuming that most people are not just going to watch. heck, i don't know. my car sure isn't adaquate i wouldn't do any street racing anyways. hopefully i won't get flamed, but the smart ones leave it all at the track were it belongs.

tagurit
12-25-2001, 07:45 PM
yes, passengers and watchers are all guilty. They can give you a particpating in drag racing on a major highway. Trust me, they do it to, my friends all got screwed with that one. no matter if you are doing it or not, if the judge is an ass, he will through the book at you and not bargain or lessen the charge. This has been a major problem in the country and given the fact of the recent death from drag racing, im sure there will be a no tolerance. a drag racing ticket can be 275 dollars, 6 points and 6 months Lisence suspension, but good luck, hope you get a judge on a good day.

atehrani
12-25-2001, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by BoyRacer
...the cops were appreantly racing undercovere in a audi TT quatro convertible believe it or not! and he was pretty damn good...

Isn't that entrapment? Meaning that evidence is not admissible? You could have also talked your way out of it. Unless he actually saw you race and or participate; you could just say "officer, my friend and I were just crusing on the freeway and came into this...."

That's assuming you're not driving a "raced" (aka riced) out ride.

ZeroGTS
12-25-2001, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by autxr
You must be a real friggin idiot if you were busted by a "pig." Not many animals are dumber than they are.

If a pig wallows in it's own filth and you were dumb enough to get caught by one, where does that leave you on the evolutionary scale?

Scott

PS: I have several close friends that are "pigs" and I assure you, they are all smarter than you are (by common sense and educational standards).


cops down where i am ARE pigs.
most of the illegal stuff going on...involves them. you don't want to know how I know this...thankfully my hands ARE clean though. Never done anything illegal myself.

I have little respect for the police departments down here.
Very little.

KSilver2000
12-25-2001, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by BoyRacer
the cops were appreantly racing undercovere in a audi TT quatro convertible believe it or not! and he was pretty damn good.

Yea sometimes they do that. There was this one undercover cop that my girlfriend used to live right next door to, and he had a fixed up Supra TT. When I say fixed up, do I mean fixed up. You couldn't even tell he was a cop because he was like a 30 year-old asian dad. I heard from someone that the car ran in the low 12's. They can sometimes really come out of nowhere. He never gave me a ticket for illegal things like no license plate or blue bulbs or whatever because I think my girlfriend's parents were really close to his family.

Karim
12-25-2001, 11:00 PM
i once heard of this undercover cop who drove a pimped out lime green eclipse with lots of NOS, he wasn't sent to shut down the illegal races though he was sent to get some info on some truck robberies.

ok all joking aside man that sucks about being caught in the bust, how much is your ticket and what's it for? hopefully you can get it dropped or something. Good Luck.

Karim

larryd
12-25-2001, 11:24 PM
just outta curiousity how much was the ticket?? seems like a massive crack down like this happens once every few months..in philly its about once every 2 weeks over the summer..

chameleon
12-26-2001, 12:05 AM
You must be a real friggin idiot if you were busted by a "pig." Not many animals are dumber than they are.

Not many people know this autxr, but the pig is actually the third most intelligent animal on this planet. Just a little interesting fact not many people know, I thought I would throw it out there...

But your point is well taken. I also find the huge disrespect toward police officers offensive. The police are there for a good reason and I have never had a problem with a police officer before, ever. The only time I had to deal with one, they were there to help me. I think that the reason I get frustrated by people who call police officers "pigs" is because they seem to lose sight of one important thing. The only reason they are dealing with the police in the first place is because they got caught doing something illegal, so you really have no right to displace your frustrations on them in the form of name calling.

oreo
12-26-2001, 05:12 AM
i totally agree, it's still illegal, but giving tickets to bistanders... that's just wrong, what's that gonna stop, watching?? if i got a ticket for watching i'd be like screw this i'm gonna race now. i agree about the entrapment thing to... if the cop was at any point, like who wants to race, that's entrapment. as far as people who were like i was just driving down the highway and got caught in this... the mentioned that in the story, if you look. police still gave them tickets. did someone say something about a lime green eclipse with lots of nos????? hahahaha it comes out jan. 2nd. woo..... i'll be the first one to buy it.... *that was a joke*

autxr
12-26-2001, 05:13 AM
Damn, someone called my bluff.

Not to mention that given a choice pigs are actually very clean animals. They really don't choose to wallow in their own filth.

Still, my point wasn't lost on everyone I see.

All the cop's i've interacted with were either A: My friends, or B: Pulling me over for breaking the law. I have no problem with either.

Scott

cruzerz545
12-26-2001, 06:53 AM
I agree, keep it at the track


Originally posted by amicek
its possible that the people in cars that didn't look like they were adaquate for street racing didn't get tickets. the cops may be assuming that most people are not just going to watch. heck, i don't know. my car sure isn't adaquate i wouldn't do any street racing anyways. hopefully i won't get flamed, but the smart ones leave it all at the track were it belongs.

RedNOSceli
12-26-2001, 08:27 AM
Again, what was the ticket for?

ishido
12-26-2001, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by oreo
i totally agree, it's still illegal, but giving tickets to bistanders... that's just wrong, what's that gonna stop, watching?? if i got a ticket for watching i'd be like screw this i'm gonna race now.
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people got tickets for just watching what's up with that? i mean really, it's illegal, but still watching it is illegal?


Yes it is illegal. It depends on your particular state's laws and statutes. If you are at an illegal event, you are apart of it. Even if you are just watching, you are making it happen. A lot of it will depend on WHAT THE ACTUAL TICKET is (hint hint, what is the friggin ticket for?) If you were at an illegal boxing match or something similar where the only participants are knowingly and willingly there with no other interest or reason to be there then you are apart of the illegal event. Yeah... kinda hard to say you were goin to the supermarket if it's 5 miles away and you happen to be surrounded by illegal street racing.

tagurit
12-26-2001, 08:52 AM
what they usually say to the people that get tickets and they say they were only watching is that they are still participating. If they werent watching them, then there wouldnt be any racing. The cops arent dumb when it comes to hooked up cars. If you have anything done to your car and your caught in a middle of a sting, your still getting a ticket, no cop will by that excuse. The cops dont have to race, they can just sit at the line with a cell phone and just read off tags that race. You just cant win!!!

oreo
12-26-2001, 09:15 AM
makes sense really... that just seems like crud to me. oh well... guess they are just trying to keep everyone safe. :(

Slant
12-26-2001, 09:26 AM
that street racing accident in FL with the kid and his mom

Yeah, that was tragic. A kid wreked another car while street racing, only to find out later that his mother was in that other car and died.

Sorry to hear you got busted dude. Hopefully you get it dropped or something.

BoyRacer
12-26-2001, 09:28 PM
OK for all the bastards out there who dont know me or who i am, i am not that stupid. you had to have seen this kind of racing there were 18 wheelers barreling down this road, one was towing a broken down U-haul. they couldnt stop, some swerved, some were near fatal pileups, they were racing around families traveling on this road. it was way to unsafe for me. i never raced i was parked with RAULO, hes on this site, we both got busted. i got a ticket he didnt get one. the police confiscated everyone license before they did anything and had them for a good 3 hours. everyone they blocked off all entrances and exits. at the time i didnt hear about the kid who killed his mom. but my gf was screaming at me for beeing there and told me about that story the day after i got screwed.

i was parked off the side of the road watching. my brother was my passenger both of us got tickets. they body searched us both.
everyone wants to know the ticket is for: "DRAG RACING-Illegal Assembly". the ticket is for $28. and i have a racing record for not even racing.they were all ****s. everyone was out there for hours getting antsy and hiungry and the pricks were eating pizza in front of us. they made us stand in line to get our ticket. hundreds of people. and it smelled like crap from the cow pastures! i am in alot of the pics but i guess they didnt use them in the article. there were only like a handfull of toyotas, me raul, and two supras. so i guess we were the fixed up toyotas they were referring to in the article.

PaCelicaGTS
12-26-2001, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by oreo
i totally agree, it's still illegal, but giving tickets to bistanders... that's just wrong, what's that gonna stop, watching?? if i got a ticket for watching i'd be like screw this i'm gonna race now. i agree about the entrapment thing to... if the cop was at any point, like who wants to race, that's entrapment.

If you go to an illegal race, its considered participating in an illegal activity and its fineable, its actually convictable too but most police departments only ticket for it. and personally I'd rather recieve a ticket for watching the races than participating. if you get a ticket for participating its usually loss of license and if they want too it can also include jail time. Oh and technicall they can say its not entrapment b/c your already there in some form or another participating in the illegal activity. entrapment would be if they pulled up next to you on a highway or someplace else and revved on you or something like that. But if your already at an event then its not entrapment

Kit99bar
12-27-2001, 12:33 AM
street racing = gay

racinjason
12-28-2001, 11:27 AM
This has been going on since the car was invented. It will be around forever. We could be on a Skyway (back the the future) and we will still be racing.

I do my best not to participate in street racing any longer. Most kids do it because they don't go to the drag strip. And they don't know how fun and easy it is to do it legally in a designated area. There is also the illegal factor itself that draws kids to push the limit and see how far they can get away with it. I have done it myself.

Most of us have sped through residental streets or had raced around with another car on the highway. It's a natural thing for people to do. But we must use our heads. People get killed many times and it's usually the innocent people that happen to be around when it happens.

All I ever ask people to do is use thier heads and accept their fate if they get caught. I asume many people will still do this regardless. So if you do, don't race where innocent people are. I see many kids in my area racing in traffic with others all around. That is the most stupid thing ever. Do it in the middle of nowhere. Where if something happens it's to the people that choose to be there.

And also to the poster that said people only do it because of spectators! That's BS. These kids will do it where ever, when ever with nobody watching. I could care less if it's at the track with 50,000 fans watching on in the desert with me and another driver. I'll still race them. And so would all of these other guys and girls. Many street racers i have met prefer smaller or no crowds. It's harder to get caught. But the crowd follows the action. Action doesn't follow the crowd.

BoyRacer
12-30-2001, 06:06 PM
Well most of these people were over 21, there were a decent number of men there with fast cars. so the child theory doesnt necesarily apply here. these is a miami crowd, the fastest cars, man woman or child own show up.

amicek
12-30-2001, 06:55 PM
i don't know my laws too well, but isn't it still illegal?

IceManFX
12-31-2001, 02:47 PM
ok, woh, hold on a sec.... u get offended when someone calls a cop a "pig"

well then you have some big issues

common fact... cops have quotas, which means they can and will be ****s espeically at the end of the month

city cops most of them are fine... and that is because they have better things to do then bother people like suburban cops do

for example by me in nj, a town near me.. chatham.. the cops are racist.... and the best if they setup a roadblock at 9 am.. to make sure everyone is driving safely.. basically they want to pull over cars for an easy ticket

or the best is being followed for about 2 miles from one end of the town to the other and finally gettting pulled over because u were "weaving a little" toward the yellow line.. took ya 2 miles to figure that out?

i wouldnt use such a strong word as pig but most suburban cops are an annoyance.... because honestly they have nothing better to do, so they bother u while you drive

i can give u a bunch of stories... of course there are good cops out there... but just like anything the bad stands out more than the good

and uhm yeah cops are suppose to be there to help you, thats their job.. to "serve and protect" and to say ur offended u just gotta calm yourself, because you really dont have a real world picture

cam_n_scott
01-01-2002, 02:50 PM
common fact... cops have quotas, which means they can and will be ****s espeically at the end of the month

However, if a policeman gets to the end of the month and has not yet met their quota, you could assume that for the first part of the month they have been letting all the "small offenses" go. Lets be honest here, if you were a cop, you could drive around on the highway and CONSTANTLY pull people over if you wanted to. You can't drive 10 minutes without seeing someone doing something technically illegal. I'm not a policeman myself, but I imagine this occurs because the officer would rather fill his quota with tickets for "more serious" traffic offenses rather than pulling someone over for 60 in a 55 etc. Obviously sometimes they get to the end of the month and have to crack down a bit to meet their quota.

IceMan I don't know anything about your personal experience with the police so I can't comment on your situation. Maybe you've caught some bad luck, or maybe there is really a "bad cop" situation in your area. However I agree with chameleon and autoxr here, disrespect for officers, and therefore the law, is foolish and seems to propogate itself in threads such as these.

To hear that "The cops were being d*cks!" because they were eating pizza in front of you... I dont know if I should laugh or just sigh.

Stay safe you guys...

Drag'nGT
01-01-2002, 08:49 PM
"We actually ended up with more than four times what we expected,'' Duarte said. ``And we didn't have one use of force.''

"It goes to show you, most kids are good,'' said one officer participating in the sting.

See. We're good guys. We don't cause problems. So why can't people just leave us the f*ck alone?

Oh! And what's this??? No pics? :p lol

NSX_GTR_LM
01-01-2002, 09:16 PM
thats what I was thinkin too dragnGT. If tell me why a cop gave me an excessive accelleration ticket (which he can't even properly define) two days after thanksgiving. HMM... it was near the end of the month, I am a young man in a nice car, it has an intake, pull him over. Don't worry about the guy ahead thats goin about 45 in a 25, follow the young man through 4 traffic lights and 4 stop signs, and since he did nothing else wrong for me to get him on, i will give him a ticket for excessive accelleration. Not all cops are good cops, and not all cops are bad cops, but I am sure there is plenty of corruption just about anywhere.

BTW dragnGT, bring back the old sig with that hot senorita

Drag'nGT
01-01-2002, 10:01 PM
Okay. You're the 20th person to ask me for that sig to be put back up. So I'll fix it. ;)

MoogieBoogie
01-02-2002, 01:59 AM
I heard that if you are caught watching a race that you get a 5 point ticket for condoning street racing or something. Is this true?

InsaneDriver
01-02-2002, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Kit99bar
street racing = gay

Just because you suck at street racing doesn't mean it's gay.

kuruptgt
01-02-2002, 10:49 PM
what happens if you don't have a license:D