spending money in a smart way

[TakumaSato]

HI!!!

So WHat you guys preffer for the 2ZZGE engine???
a LIghtweight flywheel or The Injen CAI???

I want all your advices in a performance point of view,

I need advices to know which of the two is better to spend my money at...

since our tranny makes us accelerate slow I think a flywheel might help, but I want to first read your opinions... thanks!!!

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

First things first..

Do the CAI right off the bat, its inexpensive, with good performance gains, and you can install it yourself.

As for the lightweight flywheel, I would say wait... save up enough cash to put in a better clutch while youre at it...and maybe even a limited slip differential.

[2002GT_Celica]

Originally posted by S|Lv3rBu||et
First things first..

Do the CAI right off the bat, its inexpensive, with good performance gains, and you can install it yourself.

As for the lightweight flywheel, I would say wait... save up enough cash to put in a better clutch while youre at it...and maybe even a limited slip differential.

:werd: Do all that work at the same time and save yourself a little money.

[TakumaSato]

Wait, the INJEN CAI is super expensive, it costs like 260, I prefer saving some 70 bucks more and I can get the Fidanza Flywheel,

and Im thinkingg about getting a Phantom Grip LSD, I dont want a new clutch man, My car it's almost new...

you guys haven't answered my question, I said, What has more gains from a performance point of view? the Fidanza Flywheel or an INjen CAI???

[Da Kine Guy]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
Wait, the INJEN CAI is super expensive, it costs like 260, I prefer saving some 70 bucks more and I can get the Fidanza Flywheel,

and Im thinkingg about getting a Phantom Grip LSD, I dont want a new clutch man, My car it's almost new...

you guys haven't answered my question, I said, What has more gains from a performance point of view? the Fidanza Flywheel or an INjen CAI???

You want to mod your car and think that $260 is super expensive? I'd find a new hobby if I were you. Go buy an X-Box or something.

[TakumaSato]

if you are going to post bs, or if you dont like my post, then don't reply...

and YES, I THINK A STUPID PIECE OF PIPE WITH A FILTER costing 260 is pretty expensive!

[Jesse IL]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
Wait, the INJEN CAI is super expensive, it costs like 260, I prefer saving some 70 bucks more and I can get the Fidanza Flywheel,

and Im thinkingg about getting a Phantom Grip LSD, I dont want a new clutch man, My car it's almost new...

you guys haven't answered my question, I said, What has more gains from a performance point of view? the Fidanza Flywheel or an INjen CAI???

Oh man...I just don't know what to say here. Go ahead and get your $325 flywheel. When you get the bill for the install of your Phantom Grip and your flywheel, post about it here. There is a guy selling AEM CAI's for the GT-S for $185 right now.

[celicaGTS01]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
if you are going to post bs, or if you dont like my post, then don't reply...

and YES, I THINK A STUPID PIECE OF PIPE WITH A FILTER costing 260 is pretty expensive!

well just wait until you go to by an exhaust, $600 for a stupid piece of pipe with no filter, then you're gonna be real pissed:rolleyes:

[NeSyO03]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
Wait, the INJEN CAI is super expensive, it costs like 260, I prefer saving some 70 bucks more and I can get the Fidanza Flywheel,

and Im thinkingg about getting a Phantom Grip LSD, I dont want a new clutch man, My car it's almost new...

you guys haven't answered my question, I said, What has more gains from a performance point of view? the Fidanza Flywheel or an INjen CAI???

It actually costs like 205 and if u NEED a color to it 225. That is a good deal and a "cheap" mod for a car.

Ya you go save another 70 dollars and get that flywheel. Then take it to a shop and tell them to install it for free. I doubt your goin to be installing it urself. And its sorta waste of money to get the flywheel without gettin a new clutch, cuz then u gotta take it to a shop again and pay them more money to take apart the tranny which was alrdy apart from installing the flywheel.

You asked us what we think u should get first, get a CAI.

[CONTROL ONE]

this should be in the n00b forum...

[TakumaSato]

I think I can put it myself...

[CONTROL ONE]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
I think I can put it myself...
then maybe you should have put it there in the first place...

[TakumaSato]

So it is better the Flywheel or the CAI, none of you guys have answered me in a clear way...

[pepsiman]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
Wait, the INJEN CAI is super expensive, it costs like 260, I prefer saving some 70 bucks more and I can get the Fidanza Flywheel,

and Im thinkingg about getting a Phantom Grip LSD, I dont want a new clutch man, My car it's almost new...

you guys haven't answered my question, I said, What has more gains from a performance point of view? the Fidanza Flywheel or an INjen CAI???

Injen CAI! 17hp+ and you can get it for around 200$...

[CONTROL ONE]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
So it is better the Flywheel or the CAI, none of you guys have answered me in a clear way...

NO.

as EVERYONE has already stated, the cai is a much better deal. you can get an AEM for $185

pepsiman, please do not state 'facts' so incorrectly as that. the cai should net you roughly 7hp TOPS, not 17...

[XYRCNCP]

my question to you is, if you think the Injen CAI is "super expensive" why do you keep asking what's better, if obviously you are concerned about price? just my .02, I still say the CAI.

[WillyK]

Originally posted by pepsiman


Injen CAI! 17hp+ and you can get it for around 200$...

Bwahahahhahhahahha! What crack are you smoking?

[TakumaSato]

but the flywheel helps the engine rev faster... and to accelerate faster, and getting to the LIFT FASTER...

while the CAI is just all over the powerband...

[XYRCNCP]

I think you just answered your own question as what you really want......

[CONTROL ONE]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
but the flywheel helps the engine rev faster... and to accelerate faster, and getting to the LIFT FASTER...

while the CAI is just all over the powerband...

you're obviously a moron. if you're not gonna listen to what we have to say anyways, why bother posting?

you have no clue how either works and you obviously don't have a grip on reality if you think a cai is 'super expensive' and 'just a pipe with a filter on it'

i'm sure you think wheels are just 'metal circles with rubber around them'

do yourself a favour and try doing some research or at least take some english lessons. pretty soon i'm gonna need babblefish to understand your posts

[pinoyracer]

:chuckles:

Cheap Noobie Bastard, go to OT, we have the right mods for yah :evil:

:closed:

[TakumaSato]

hahaha obviously you are the MORON!!!

I gave a TRUE logical explanation while you replied a stupid one...

by the way, Mr. Control One, can you please correct my gramatical errors???

please... thank you... hahaha

[laz_10]

Originally posted by CONTROL ONE


you're obviously a moron. if you're not gonna listen to what we have to say anyways, why bother posting?

you have no clue how either works and you obviously don't have a grip on reality if you think a cai is 'super expensive' and 'just a pipe with a filter on it'

i'm sure you think wheels are just 'metal circles with rubber around them'

do yourself a favour and try doing some research or at least take some english lessons. pretty soon i'm gonna need babblefish to understand your posts

thank you!! i was just about to post the same thing!

[XYRCNCP]

Originally posted by CONTROL ONE


you're obviously a moron. if you're not gonna listen to what we have to say anyways, why bother posting?

you have no clue how either works and you obviously don't have a grip on reality if you think a cai is 'super expensive' and 'just a pipe with a filter on it'

i'm sure you think wheels are just 'metal circles with rubber around them'

do yourself a favour and try doing some research or at least take some english lessons. pretty soon i'm gonna need babblefish to understand your posts

:rofl:, I would've loved to see this in OT.....maybe it can be moved there? :rofl:

[uansari]

No seriously though...where's the mod??

Close this thread PLEASE!!!

Sorry man, but you make NO sense...

Usman

[CONTROL ONE]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
hahaha obviously you are the MORON!!!

I gave a TRUE logical explanation while you replied a stupid one...


a) please do not refer to any of the moderators as 'morons'. that's very quick ticket out of here

b) true logical explanation? 'super expensive pipe with filter on' compared to a 'thingie that makes you rev faster' does NOT constitute as a true logical statement

thank you.

[CONTROL ONE]

Originally posted by uansari
No seriously though...where's the mod??

Close this thread PLEASE!!!

Sorry man, but you make NO sense...

Usman

i'm trying to 'moderate' our illinformed newbie here but unfortunately i have no mod powers outside my own forum :D

[uansari]

:popcorn:

in b4 the lock...

Usman

[pinoyracer]

Originally posted by XYRCNCP


:rofl:, I would've loved to see this in OT.....maybe it can be moved there? :rofl:

Yes please, all of the OT'ers wanna help this noobie out :evil:

[Jesse IL]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
hahaha obviously you are the MORON!!!

I gave a TRUE logical explanation while you replied a stupid one...

by the way, Mr. Control One, can you please correct my gramatical errors???

please... thank you... hahaha

Bro, your explanation is not logical. Your basic understanding of the physical principles behind how all this stuff works is extremely limited. I cannot help you more on this stuff without confusing you worse. You just need to take our word or put in some serious time studying the theory behind all this stuff. Its just like the 230HP UK-spec 2ZZ-GE that you think exists. You're whole logic base is just so far off, there is no good place to start with correcting you.

[Jesse IL]

Originally posted by CONTROL ONE


i'm trying to 'moderate' our illinformed newbie here but unfortunately i have no mod powers outside my own forum :D

Static and Chiggy are not around...:wtc: Someone get co00lcelica

[TakumaSato]

you are just hurt because I said that the CAI is a stupid pipe with a filter on... hahaha


by the way, why you called me a moron in first place???

if you didn't like me calling you a moron, then why you called me moron???

[CONTROL ONE]

Originally posted by Jesse IL


Bro, your explanation is not logical. Your basic understanding of the physical principles behind how all this stuff works is extremely limited. I cannot help you more on this stuff without confucing you worse. You just need to take our word or put in some serious time studying the theory behind all this stuff. Its just like the 230HP UK-spec 2ZZ-GE that you think exists. You're whole logic base is just so far off, there is no good place to start with correcting you.

:thumbup:

thx buddy, i don't think i could have said that w/o swearing :)

[CONTROL ONE]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
you are just hurt because I said that the CAI is a stupid pipe with a filter on... hahaha


by the way, why you called me a moron in first place???

if you didn't like me calling you a moron, then why you called me moron???

in the words of chiggy, because i'm a moderator and i can. deal with it. :D

[pinoyracer]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
you are just hurt because I said that the CAI is a stupid pipe with a filter on... hahaha


by the way, why you called me a moron in first place???

if you didn't like me calling you a moron, then why you called me moron???

Because ur a moron, moron!!!

[TakumaSato]

but the flywheel helps the engine rev faster... and to accelerate faster, and getting to the LIFT FASTER...


is there anything against the physics principles there???

tell me one!

[Jesse IL]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
you are just hurt because I said that the CAI is a stupid pipe with a filter on... hahaha


by the way, why you called me a moron in first place???

if you didn't like me calling you a moron, then why you called me moron???

Are you talking to me? If you think a CAI is just a stupid pipe with a filter on it, then you are clearly illustrating my point.

[WillyK]

Can someone PLEASE move this to OT???

[TakumaSato]

"in the words of chiggy, because i'm a moderator and i can. deal with it. "

just because you may have certain power, that doesnt mean you can go and dis people...

thats why everybody hates USA, they get their nose where they shouldn't


hey and you FLIP, go and find some gold for me please!

[Jesse IL]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
but the flywheel helps the engine rev faster... and to accelerate faster, and getting to the LIFT FASTER...


is there anything against the physics principles there???

tell me one!

I just can't possibly explain this to you. The terminology alone would lose you, not to mention the fact that I don't think you could visualize what I'm talking about. I just don't have the patience for that. Do whatever you want and just go with whatever explanation makes sense to YOU. Lord knows the streets are chock full with ricers who do the same thing.

[2kgtx]

Ok here's something to think about before getting the Flywheel, yes you will rev faster but it's extermely expensive to have installed you are very brave for wanting to install it yourself Ask Larry about ripping the tranny apart. Also you will not hold the revs as well either. meaning it probably won't be easy to land lift on the 1-2 shift. CAI much better performance for the money.

[TakumaSato]

It wasn't with you Jessen IL, I respect you a lot!

you know how to explain yourself, Man, I said that just as a Sacarsm... Ofcourse it's not a stupid pipe with a filter in it, I know it's a tested intake manifold pipe that has a good air flow... and a lot of research studying by the injen engineers and stuff...

come on!

[TakumaSato]

I just wanted to spend my money on the right parts..

that's all!

[uansari]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
It wasn't with you Jessen IL, I respect you a lot!

you know how to explain yourself, Man, I said that just as a Sacarsm... Ofcourse it's not a stupid pipe with a filter in it, I know it's a tested intake manifold pipe that has a good air flow... and a lot of research studying by the injen engineers and stuff...

come on!

Actually, it's not an intake manifold pipe...that's the part connected to your throttle body, which in turn connects to your intake, which is where the air is ingested into the engine for combustion.

Anyway, just a flywheel by itself will not increase performance much. A CAI will provide a noticeable gain in power, as will exhaust.

A CAI can be had for under $200. Trust me, you'll wonder how you've lived without one, once it's installed...

Usman

[TakumaSato]

well remmember english is not my native tongue, I know it's not the Intake manifold... it's a cold air intake connected to the throttle body that then it gets connected to the intake manifold where goes to each intake valve...

[TakumaSato]

so you are saying that with a CAI I'll get lower 1/4 times than with the light flyw.?????

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

Man... this is the thread from hell......
Well, TakumaSato, you sure did succeed in getting about a dozen members of this forum to loathe you, and after this comment:

origonally posted by TakumaSato
thats why everybody hates USA, they get their nose where they shouldn't


You can add me to that list!! :fawk:

Oh and by the way...

A CAI IS A BETTER CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!

How is that for a clear answer?

[uansari]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
so you are saying that with a CAI I'll get lower 1/4 times than with the light flyw.?????

YES!!!!

Usman

[Jas]

:chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles: :D :rofl:

[DaksGT]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
It wasn't with you Jessen IL, I respect you a lot!



Go toss his salad then. :chuckles:

[Cicero]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:AF: :AF: :AF: :bang: :bang: :bang:

[WillyK]

What idiot would even consider changing a flywheel without going with a new clutch at the same time?

[Jesse IL]

A lightweight flywheel will affect your acceleration in the same way that a set of lightweight wheels will help your car. There is less rotating mass so it takes less energy to accelerate it. The tradeoff to a lightweight flywheel is that the weight of the flywheel is used to store energy that can be transfered to the wheels when you take off. If you hold the RPM at say 4000 with the clutch in and then let out the clutch without changing the gas, what happens? The RPM drops. The heavier your flywheel, the less your RPM would drop. With a lightweight flywheel, this problem of dropping rpm becomes worse. It can become very difficult to launch a car smoothly and quickly with a lightweight flywheel. Many people with lightweight flywheels need to "dump" the clutch just to keep engine rpm up, or slip the clutch quite a bit. Lightweight clutches are useful on racecars where you might only take off from a dead stop a few times per race. Lightweight flywheels will be hard for the average person to drive consistently on a drag strip. You may end up being slower due to difficulties at the start. A cold air intake is a solid 10HP gain, and will make a noticeable improvement in your 1/4 mile times.

[jdm-style]

hahhahahahahahahah a pipe with a filter, bro honostly its going to be the best mod. and its not expensive. unless u can afford clutch, flywheel,lsd all at once stick with the cai. theres people putting over 180 to the wheels with intake and exhaust. u can't go wrong.

just out of curiousity are u japanese? from ur username it seems like it

[Hungster]

man hey all these people have been saying is that THE CAI IS A BETTER CHOICE this is what you are asking, and that is the answer. please just take the advice and dont say anything anymore, your just digging yourself a depper hole

[xNiNjAx]

INB4DALOCK

[Sirk_2]

This thead is just fukin hilarious...dude..get a grip. This is a CAR. Not a damn tonka truck. You can't just do random mods to your car and expect results. EXAMPLES:
You get an exhaust, then it will work better w/ the CAI
You get a Turbo, then it will work better w/ an intercooler
You get a Lightweight fly wheel, it will work better w/ that clutch

Don't do random sh!t to your car...you will regret it. Stick around this board, *change your name first* and just ask for help and accept criticism. We can all help you, and vice versa. I came here just like you...now I wish i had it all to do over again.

Before you mod, research, and ask around.

[mangoboy7]

Go to Off Topic:Enter at your own risk. Let's see how long you last in there. damn nuB

[pinoyracer]

Originally posted by mangoboy7
Go to Off Topic:Enter at your own risk. Let's see how long you last in there. damn nuB

:werd:
We have the mods that u are looking for :evil: :thumbup:

[Hungster]

Originally posted by pinoyracer


:werd:
We have the mods that u are looking for :evil: :thumbup:

:chuckles:

[NeSyO03]

WoW, I come back 3 and a half hours later and alrdy see a second page on this lol....The question was alrdy answered like 12 replies ago.

Here it is...
Originally posted by uansari


YES!!!!

Usman

Thread should be finished now.

[Mr.J]

Originally posted by DaksGT

Go toss his salad then. :chuckles:

Eloquently put Daks

[Mr.J]

Originally posted by WillyK
What idiot would even consider changing a flywheel without going with a new clutch at the same time?

I think the dude that started this thread for 1

[h0l0grafik]

Originally posted by TakumaSato
"in the words of chiggy, because i'm a moderator and i can. deal with it. "

just because you may have certain power, that doesnt mean you can go and dis people...

thats why everybody hates USA, they get their nose where they shouldn't


hey and you FLIP, go and find some gold for me please!

find some gold for you? what are u talking about man. if u hate usa so much, swim from your island to our country and we will welcome you with a nice kick in your ass. i think you should be spending money on professional mental help instead of mods for your celica. Douche Bag!

[TakumaSato]

Thank you ALL!!!

Look what I had to do to find out which was better!!!

DAMN!


hehehe... (I don't hate anyone)

[uansari]

Seriously though...the second mod you should do, after a CAI, is to contact MRD and get some of their performance parts...

I hear they have a sweet stealth body kit... I was considering getting it, but got a sweet deal on a TRD kit...but you might want to look into it... The best thing is, it weighs just as much as Stock!!!

Usman

[TakumaSato]

I don't want looks...

I want Performance, but thanks anyways man!

[cbgt4me]

No you really should look into the MRD stealth kit, If you want performance...It provides the best downforce and air flow for our cars...and like he said it is just as light as the stock kit...

[uansari]

Originally posted by cbgt4me
No you really should look into the MRD stealth kit, If you want performance...It provides the best downforce and air flow for our cars...and like he said it is just as light as the stock kit...

:chuckles:

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

Holy good god this thread is f*ckin hilarious.

[coOOlcelica]

this thread is closed before it gets really out of control in here.

:closed: