TURBO kit for the GT-S. VERY SERIOUS inside

[gts24]

OK, guys, some of you that hit up the neweclipse.org website may be aware of a company called Xtecheng, they are a fairly new UP AND COMING company in the import aftermarket. I need you fellow GT-S owners to get on the bandwagon here and convince these guys that we have the numbers to justify them producing a turbo kit for us. I know we have the numbers we just need to convince them. Here's all of their information:

http://xtecheng.com/
email Chris Clough at info@xtecheng.com

Currently they are working on a kit for the 3g Eclipse GT. it is going to cost 3k for everything. go here for information:

http://www.eclipseforums.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15674

HERE IS MY EMAIL DIALOUGUE WITH CHRIS!!!! pretty encouaraging if we can get this going. PLEASE REPRESENT HERE GUYS.

Hi Bryan,
Thanks for contacting us. We are quite aware of the Celica and
it's presence in the import market. I admit it's a sweet car.
To be honest, I would rather enjoy designing a turbo system for
your car and producing them. However, there are a couple things you need
to understand.
First, we are in the process of finishing up our 3G Eclipse GT
kit - we've been working on it for months, and trying to get everything
right. We are coming to a close on this very soon. (within a week) What
that means is that until we are fully done with that, all efforts can't
be lead astray.
Now, with that in mind we are also implementing some new
machining hardware that will not be fully operational for about a month.
This will allow us to do prototyping much easier, quicker, and cost
effectively IN HOUSE.
Let's do this... take a poll on some of the Celica boards to
find out how much demand there is for the kit. If you can show me a
decent amount, it will be our next project. We have told some of the3G
Eclipse GS/RS owners we will be doing a turbo system for their I4,
however I could have one of my other designers work on that and I will
work solely on the Celica project.
Bottom line is time and demand. If you can show me a demand I'd
be MORE than happy to take a look. I'd love to see that car smokin'
Mustang GTs - we need more imports kick the domestics ass.
I will also look into those links you've sent me to see what
others have done, so I can get an idea. I would probably need to see
your car and take a few things apart to get measurements, pictures, etc.
You could be here during the process if you wanted - it's completelyup
to you. I could try to do it in a weekend if you wanted.
Let me know what you find out from others, and have them all
check out our website. We are dealer for a lot of different products,
but haven't gotten them up on the site. Let people know that, and ifwe
can see some more traffic, our enthusiasm towards new projects will
defiantly go up :)
Thanks and keep in contact,
-Chris Clough
Xtech Engineering
http://www.xtecheng.com
info@xtecheng.com
Ph# 515.708.8001


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Fetzer [bfetzer@onebox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:04 AM
To: info@xtecheng.com
Cc: bfetzer@onebox.com
Subject: 2000 Toyota Celica GT-S turbo Questions for you

Hello,
I am an owner of a 2000 Toyota Celica GT-S. If you are not aware this
car has won numerous awards
-best sports coupe under $30000
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/mostwanted/2002/47593/article.html
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/47901/page007.html
quote from edmunds "If action is what you want, you needn't look any
further than the Celica. In the performance category of this test, the
Celica earned an outstanding 95.8 percent score. Even the editors'
evaluations
of individual performance attributes read like a Hollywood awards show.
Best suspension? Toyota Celica. Best Steering? Toyota Celica. Best
brakes?
(Dramatic pause) Toyota Celica. Would the lead engineer of the Celica's
underpinnings please take a bow?"
-Sport Compact Car Magazine named it one of the 8 great rides.
-In a recent Issue of motortrend it dominated the performance aspect
of all the tests in a 3 way shootout.
What I am getting at here is that the Toyota Celica needs more forced
induction aftermarket companies to take a serious look and see that this
car is a monster. I live in Minneapolis and I am willing to be a guinea
pig of sorts. YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A BUTTLOAD OF MONEY ON A TURBO KIT FOR
THE CELICA GT-S. I am serious you have no idea how many people are
foaming
at the mouth wanting a kit for this car. There are numerous kits but
none are a manufactured "production" kit. (not yet)
Check out all these enthusiasts websites:
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/index.php?s=
http://www.celica.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
http://www.nextcelica.net/community/
http://www.teamunison.com/main.html

I have linked you to the forums of all these websites. You will see that
numerous people will be ready to buy a kit for their cars if the kit
was in the 3-5k range. PLEASE HELP US OUT!!! you will not regret it at
all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ringthree]

Not only that but when I called the guy (Chris), he was really nice and sounded interested. I will call back and I encourage others to do the same.

[gts24]

Originally posted by ringthree
Not only that but when I called the guy (Chris), he was really nice and sounded interested. I will call back and I encourage others to do the same.

Dat's rightttttttt.... this is what we need. These guys know our cars are serious.... we just need some steroids. !!!:D

[PorkchopSpecblue GT-S]

Just got of the phone with Chris also. Very imformative and helpful guy. He is definitly interested in the Celica. He told me to tell all the fellas here at NewCelica.org to give him a call. Especially the guys that know any kind of information that would benefit him in building a turbo setup for our cars. Also guys that know and understand how VVTL-I works. Give him a call guys. Help us all out.

[gts24]

Well, I just wrote him and told him that I will be bringing my car down to have him do the measurements and things of that nature. This WILL get going. We just gotta bug the piss outta these guys enough. The best thing is, the guys are EXCITED about this oppurtunity.

My friend's family lives in Ames, it would be no problem to go down there for a weekend and do everything. Not only that, my friend has a Mitsubishi eclipse GT 3G so he'll be more than willing to go i'm sure..... :D ;)

[Pure Racer]

I like this company :)

[fastwhipyo]

where is this place located? If its close to me then Im all over driving down to talk to them about it.

[gts24]

They are in Ames Iowa.


Guys the best thing is, they are excited, they aren't making excuses on why they can't do this and that and why they wanna be the next Honda aftermarket company :rolleyes: They are being different, and we gotta help them do this. I don't care if my car is the first to get it, I really really don't. I just wanna get something going here.


Myself and the moderator of the Midwest forum on neweclipse.org have been in dialogue with Chris ALL DAY. We are planning a visit shortly which will be the start of everything.

[fastwhipyo]

I just sent my letter of recomendation...or whatever it was. Im so freaking excited, the xsengineeing celica was running what...? 13.5's or so on only 12 PSI....cant wait to see the look on the face of a C5 corvette owners face when i slowly pull past him tootin my BOV as i shift through the six speed. (of course mine will be pushing more than 12psi too) but dont corvettes only run like 13.5's or so....?

[gts24]

I'm excited as well, the main thing that is being stressed here is a reliable kit. Not some pos that will get people pissed off and wanna throw stuff around the room. This kit will be researched and WILL be reliable.

[nyoneway]

I called. The guy Chris sounds happy.

Looks good.

Keep calling guys. I think it makes a difference.

[4PASNU]

Well guys I to have talked to Chris. We talked for half an hour. We need to keep bugging him. He sounds hyped. He works with five other guys which all have full time jobs. The reason why XS is so expenseive as you know is labor. The parts are all the same price. The time consuming part is the manifold and intake piping. He said that the system will probably run around $3000 as a kit. The basic parts we need are a turbo, intercooler, manifold and fuel stuff. The reliabality of the bolt on system will be good, f you try to up the boost you are going to need a new head gasket, rods and pistons and possible transmission work. What I plan on doing is buying an engine and transmission and building it up and put it in the car and keep my stock engine as a back-up. It will cost but if I had to chose between an Exotic car and a ok house or an exotic eating Celica and a phat house I would choose the latter which is where I'm at right now. CALL CALL CALL

[greg]

That would be awesome...keep calling people

[xi KiNG ix]

Originally posted by fastwhipyo
I just sent my letter of recomendation...or whatever it was. Im so freaking excited, the xsengineeing celica was running what...? 13.5's or so on only 12 PSI....cant wait to see the look on the face of a C5 corvette owners face when i slowly pull past him tootin my BOV as i shift through the six speed. (of course mine will be pushing more than 12psi too) but dont corvettes only run like 13.5's or so....?


Ummm.. XS was running less then 12 psi I believe for saftey reasons(more like 5 or something?).. and depending on the corvette they should get low 13's or 12's.. recently someone posted a stock Z06 getting into the 11's..

[00CericaRuss]

email sent... let's cross our fingers
(not hold our breath... cuz... umm... we'd be dead by the time something came out)

[gts24]

Everyone, please don't turn this into a "with this turbo you can beat all these cars" thread.


THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THIS THREAD. the point of this thread is to garner the interest and support for the Turbo which so many of us want and need. :)


PLEASE KEEP EMAILING/CALLING

[Keyshawn]

gts24,
Great job with finding out about this company! Keep up the good work!

fastwhipyo,
Man, sorry but you still don't know what you are talking about with the XS kit. Please do some research.

[gts24]

Keyshawn: no problem at all, I still need everyone's help to get this done, any advice you can give and please call them when you get a chance. thanks

[xi KiNG ix]

Originally posted by Keyshawn
gts24,
Great job with finding out about this company! Keep up the good work!

fastwhipyo,
Man, sorry but you still don't know what you are talking about with the XS kit. Please do some research.

Heh, I thought he said something similar to what he just said earlier, just wasn't sure..


Also, forgot to mention gj gts24 for finding the info out. I think a lot of GT-S guys are going to be happy about this since the GT Turbo from WC is coming out soon..

[hardtutame]

I just called and e-mailed Chris. Sounds very promising, he said he can probably get this done in about 2 months, defenitely faster than other companies out there trying like XS engineering.

Well see

People please call him and e-mail him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Unity112]

Great find gts24. Everyone show some support and show that you guys want it.

[cam_n_scott]

I would have thought that people on this board would have been a little more skeptical about this kind of thing...

Before I say what I have to say, let me state that:

a) I hope whatever company this is decides to investigate a turbo.

b) I hope they are excited about working on the Celica.

However, guys, we've seen this before. I admire the shops apparent interest, but have they even seen under the hood yet? They are asking questions about how lift works? Yeesh. I wonder if anybody informed them about the 11.5/1 compression ratio, or asked if the kit came with low compression pistons (It has been pretty much agreed upon that without low compression pistons, a turbo kit for the GTS will be... well... a waste).

At some point we are going to have to realize that the reason that there are not very many turbo options for the GTS is not because nobody has heard of the Celica. Its because they look at the engine and decide that its going to be a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS to build a reliable turbo kit.

Sorry to be such a skeptic, but there is all this excitement over a project that hasnt even been started yet. If I had a dime for every post about turbo kits that are "going to happen", I could buy myself.... well.... a turbo :)

[Blk00SS]

Originally posted by fastwhipyo
I just sent my letter of recomendation...or whatever it was. Im so freaking excited, the xsengineeing celica was running what...? 13.5's or so on only 12 PSI....cant wait to see the look on the face of a C5 corvette owners face when i slowly pull past him tootin my BOV as i shift through the six speed. (of course mine will be pushing more than 12psi too) but dont corvettes only run like 13.5's or so....?

Man some of you guys really crack me up. 12Psi on a stock GTS Shortblock? LOL... Keep dreaming.. If you honestly think your going to run anymore then 6Psi on your stock engine then i suggest you wake up.
You will Blow the engine up with 12Psi.... Let me rephrase your comments

"I can't wait to see the look on the Corvette driver's face when my engine explode's while i'm trying to be a Jackass."

98+ Vette's run Mid low 13's and over at the corvetteforum there are a few 01+ in the 12's with just Cold air. Quit reading motor trend mag racer.

Let me put it in lamens terms.... If you actually beat a vette driver.. do you honestly think he would care? He is Still driving the corvette and you'd be driving a Celica.
You people better get off your high horse till numbers are out because you don't know **** yet.

[Keyshawn]

cam_n_scott,
I know exactly what you're talking about. We Celica owners have been disappointed time and again by so many companies. But optimism and enthusiasm from Celi owners can only help us. Yeah, I myself am skeptical of any and all companies that promise to work on the Celica (including those chumps at TRD). But all we can do is stay positive and keep spreading the word to these companies that WE WANT PERFORMANCE PARTS.

Blkooss,
Yeah, fastwhipyo seems to have a little more enthusiasm than knowledge. I'm trying to drop some knowledge on him, but I don't think he's listening.

[Kit99bar]

where are they located?

I'm in Iowa

[hardtutame]

Originally posted by Blk00SS


Man some of you guys really crack me up. 12Psi on a stock GTS Shortblock? LOL... Keep dreaming.. If you honestly think your going to run anymore then 6Psi on your stock engine then i suggest you wake up.
You will Blow the engine up with 12Psi.... Let me rephrase your comments

"I can't wait to see the look on the Corvette driver's face when my engine explode's while i'm trying to be a Jackass."

98+ Vette's run Mid low 13's and over at the corvetteforum there are a few 01+ in the 12's with just Cold air. Quit reading motor trend mag racer.

Let me put it in lamens terms.... If you actually beat a vette driver.. do you honestly think he would care? He is Still driving the corvette and you'd be driving a Celica.
You people better get off your high horse till numbers are out because you don't know **** yet.

I agree with you a 100 percent on most of your comment except this part:
Let me put it in lamens terms.... If you actually beat a vette driver.. do you honestly think he would care? He is Still driving the corvette and you'd be driving a Celica.

Believe it will get to his/her head sonner or later that his $50,000 corvette got beat by a $25,000.

[LoCore]

Originally posted by Kit99bar
where are they located?

I'm in Iowa

Kit99bar--sounds like he's your neighbor; they are in Ames. I exchanged email with Chris today, and it sounded like they were just off Lincoln Way.

Take your Celi in so they can take a look at what they are up against.

[bickley]

good job gts24! and I'm with Keyshawn, gotta stay positive and let this company know that we're excited that someone has shown interest in our car. Besides, you never know when someone might surprise you. I sent Chris an email, wished him good luck, and told him to visit nc.org since we'll be here crossing our fingers. I don't think Chris would be very optimistic if I had said "our cars are a pain in the a$$, no one can figure out vvtl-i...not even the celica designers, and you'd be better off paying us to get new cars that do support boost options". Why not give them a chance, we've got nothing to lose.;)

[dabel]

I'm gonna have to go with blk00ss and a couple other dissenters here.

It doesn't matter how good of a bolt on kit they have, the stock parts won't hold it. Sure we can probably hold 22 lbs of boost like the Supras, but that's only after another $50k in engine mods to hold that in.

They might have a great kit, and it's probably reliable up to 6lbs (would it need to taper off like the wrx's do stock?), but to take on a corvette we'd need some sick ammounts of boost. I don't think 90% of the people here could afford parts/labor and maintenance on a vette killer kit for our car.

Save your money and wait for the new supras to come out if you want to beat vettes, if you want to be realistic i think this is a great opportunity to squeeze some impressive numbers from the celi. Lets not turn this board into clubrsx; i bet the LS1 forums would have a field day with this thread.

If i could afford it, i'd be interested though.

[fastwhipyo]

Please tell me that you guys were just joking above about the celica not being able to run 12psi? Look, the Xsengineering celica was running 12 PSI correct? Of course it wouldnt run that on stock compression, but It would be dangerous to run anything on stock comression, its already 11.5/1. I am planning on getting it lowered dramatically to about 8something/1 so screw all you guys who dont think it will run 12PSI. Drop some knowledge on me my ass. and yes, the stock C5 is capable of low 13 sec. runs, The celica will only be able to get probably around 13.5 with the stock turbo installed (no changes in boost) but that is gonna be due alot in part with traction problems....after 1st gear when traction isnt as much of a problem, that thing will fly...It already traps higher than anything in its class that runs nearly the same 1/4 mile and that is due alot in part to its lack of traction of the line....look at the 60 ft times...not real impressive. Yes I agree that on the stock block the celica wont push 12PSI due to its high compression ratio, but you must be kidding if you think that it wont push 12psi with lowered comp.

[fastwhipyo]

Now that that bull**** is over with...they replied to my email and they confirmed that as soon as thier done with the GT kit, they are gonna start on our cars. I only hope they can break the VVTLI code. Didnt XS have to figure it out to make thier celica work? I wonder if there is a way for this company to get thier codes from them. Even if they have to buy it it would probably be alot cheaper than paying employee's day after day to figure it out. He sounded pretty excited to get to work on the GTS, I only hope they dont puss out after seeing what their up against.

[gts24]

Ok like I said before , can we please not turn this into the family feud. I love both positive and negative skepticism. keep the conversation intelligent and let's just figure out the best way to go about this. Let's list what we know.

1. This car with stock internals will not handle a lot of boost, but that is ok. We can run a max of about 6-7 psi of boost and probably more reliably 5 psi most of the time.
2. THIS IS ALL OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New internals can come later, yes I do know that it would be better to do it right away but we need the turbo kit... .and we can make this work
3. Keep positive. Keep suggesting things so that we can make this work.


If you have seen some of my comments on this board you know that I am one of the biggest skeptics period about anything for this car. This was just one of my last ditch efforts. I have been considering jumping the fence and selling my car. But I went ahead and emailed this company as a last ditch effort. I expected the typical "Well sorry we are honda bitches so not a chance" ---like greddy (you can blow me greddy:rolleyes: :mad: ) But these guys didn't say that , they responded with an overwhelming show of support, and that is great.... this is what we need!!!!!!


So let's keep it positive and make skeptical comments that will HELP this project. It's all good

[larryd]

i wish i had gotten to this one earlier.. just wanna toss in my 2 pennies..

first of all Im still very interested in seeing a turbo GTS hit the market..hell if it happened id be temped to cross the platforms back to the Celica.. but on that note..

this company has never seen the underside of a hood??

they want us to call them and tell them how VVTLi works??

those two signs right there means I would NEVER NEVER NEVER ever put a turbo kit from them on my car. look at it this way.. and I know alot of people still wont understand but try and get this.. ALOT of places can make the ehxaust manifold for the turbo and then getting the piping can be done at any machine shop.. then you can put that thing on yoour car and crank your boost up and BOOM.. there goes your car.. try getting warranty work on that one.. there is ALOT to understand about how the celica's engine works. I mean I have a turbo car right now and you wouldnt believe all the extra stuff i have to do to my already turbo car to put bigger turbos on it safely.. its not as easy as most of you think, just slap it on and go faster.. tuning, fuel, timing, spark, coolers... etc etc etc.. its all prat of the equation.. now im sure they can build a turbo kit but i would be VERY skeptical if there asking us to explain to them how the celicas engine works..

once again, this is just my 2 pennies.. careful with your $$ and your mods..

[gts24]

Originally posted by larryd
i wish i had gotten to this one earlier.. just wanna toss in my 2 pennies..

first of all Im still very interested in seeing a turbo GTS hit the market..hell if it happened id be temped to cross the platforms back to the Celica.. but on that note..

this company has never seen the underside of a hood??

they want us to call them and tell them how VVTLi works??

those two signs right there means I would NEVER NEVER NEVER ever put a turbo kit from them on my car. look at it this way.. and I know alot of people still wont understand but try and get this.. ALOT of places can make the ehxaust manifold for the turbo and then getting the piping can be done at any machine shop.. then you can put that thing on yoour car and crank your boost up and BOOM.. there goes your car.. try getting warranty work on that one.. there is ALOT to understand about how the celica's engine works. I mean I have a turbo car right now and you wouldnt believe all the extra stuff i have to do to my already turbo car to put bigger turbos on it safely.. its not as easy as most of you think, just slap it on and go faster.. tuning, fuel, timing, spark, coolers... etc etc etc.. its all prat of the equation.. now im sure they can build a turbo kit but i would be VERY skeptical if there asking us to explain to them how the celicas engine works..

once again, this is just my 2 pennies.. careful with your $$ and your mods..

All very very good points. I think that the thing is, this company isn't just going to slap a turbo on this car. They are going to do the Research and Development to get this right. And as a GT-S owner we all know that the Compression is very high and we need to be extremely conservative! If you aren't conservative then yur just stupid enough to blow your engine anyways....

[larryd]

well see thats the problem.. is that ALOT of people on here really arent that bright when it comes to how compression works into the equation with a turbo.. hence the reason we need low compression stronger internals.. i would just hate to see a company sell a kit that anyone can have made for like 3,000.. someone slappin a boost controller on it and BAM.. id feel bad but i try adn explain ahead of time..

[Keyshawn]

Fastwhipyo,
Before you open your mouth, why don't you find out some facts about what you're talking about. This is the most comprehensive article about the XS Turbo Celi from Turbo Magazine. In case you didn't know, this article is posted ON THIS SITE.

http://www.newcelica.org/other/reviews/turbo/index.htm

Here's an excerpt: This set-up is more than adequate, which says a lot, considering the engines lofty 11.5:1 compression ratio and the kits 7.5 psi peak boost.

[gts24]

Originally posted by larryd
well see thats the problem.. is that ALOT of people on here really arent that bright when it comes to how compression works into the equation with a turbo.. hence the reason we need low compression stronger internals.. i would just hate to see a company sell a kit that anyone can have made for like 3,000.. someone slappin a boost controller on it and BAM.. id feel bad but i try adn explain ahead of time..

I'm hearin ya on all these points. They are very good. I'm tryin to bring the awareness up as well, but I think people are reading over my posts where I say ,, lower boost till new internals....... and just going to the part that says
"turbo coming"...

[gts24]

Ok, onto the questions about their understanding of the vvtl-i system. They understand this system. They just need feedback as to what we have seen and experienced. ...


HERE'S THE LATEST FROM CHRIS...... THIS IS EXTREMELY GOOD TO SEE ..


"We are going to do this system - bottom line. I asked for
enthusiasm because a smaller company like ours needs incentive to put all of our man hours into a project like this.
What I'd like to see is 20 people to be a for sure on our list - we'll be working on the manifold first. Once we've got the manifold done, things will be downhill from there and we can start taking pre-orders."

Well it's 12:30 here and I gotta get up at 5 to go to work, so I should try to get some sleep :)

[Lilsupra]

I think XS would be the way to go for a turbo...they appear to be a reliable and smart company...like LARRY D said they don't have a clue what VVTLI is...could they learn, yes...XS already did and developed a suitable kit....i think more feedback should be given to them...they have the turbo kit already designed, but not a strong enough celica to handle its power...this is probably why their so reluctant to put it out on the market quickly...if any of u engine builders could give them some suitable specs and equipment to MOD the VVTLI engine, they would prob release that KIT mass produced..hence cheaper prices... I think most of just want the kit to bolt on, but I dont think XS would want to waste their time and money for us to destory our cars without proper mods.

Would u rather have ur ass sitting on a NASA designed rocket or some newbie experiment waiting for diasaster...its yur choice, yur money, just dont be pissed if something happens to yur Celica...:D

[celicauk]

My car is the VVTi, so I don't know how it stands with the VVTLi. However, as some of you know, my car is currently being modified to use a supercharger. The company that is doing the engine mods for me are confident that the block (pistons/rods/crank etc) can handle up to 1 bar (about 14.5 psi) without modification.

What does need to be worked on is the head. They are currently measuring it up for capacity and then will be deciding on the best way to drop the compression. In addition to this, stronger head bolts will be required. I'll let you all know how this ends up being done.

The company that is doing this work for me have been around for a long time building racing engines of all sizes, they are well respected here in the UK and will be guaranteeing their work, so I reckon they must be happy with the boost levels I intend to run.

GTS24 - nice work on this, feel free to pass this info on to the company in question, it may not be relevant but you never know.

Cheers

[xtecheng]

Hi group,
Thanks to everyone that has emailed me thus far

[RACERGTS2000]

I'm glad to here about the turbo kit and I will also give them a call. But on the XS turbo, if you guys think our cars with a 7.5 psi turbo can't run better than 13.5 your all crazy. Some of us run 14.4 and under just with I/E. (251HP TO THE WHEELS WITH THE TURBO). And yes a corvette would be in our grasp.:eek:

[gts24]

Thanks for posting here guys. There are alot more views than posts, if you are reading. Chime in with your thoughts. Thanks everyone.

[ringthree]

Hope springs eternal. I believe that this company is very interested and just talking to Chris gave me optimism. The point is you could have a negative attitude about the situation but if you do you will never get parts. Calling and gauging interest is important even for companies that we dont like :) GReddy still plans on having a header for the GT-S and Apex is still bringing the Power FC. We need to have positive attitudes (but I agree we can drop the mag racing and talk of beating corvettes) and keep working to get people to realize we are here.

[Takeoff]

I emailed him. Hopefully they can get it done. Thanks for contacting them gts24.

Steve

[Kit99bar]

I'm in ames right now guys

I'm goign to contact them Friday and see if I can met them so they can look at my celi.

[LaW]

email I got right now:


Hi Mark,

Thanks for your interest in Xtech Engineering. We have decided to undergo research on the GT-S engine, and start design of it mid next month. We will keep you posted as to the status of it.

Thanks,

-Chris Clough

Xtech Engineering

http://www.xtecheng.com/

info@xtecheng.com

Ph# 515.708.8001

[sammythebull]

i just sent him an e-mail as well. the only thing im worried about is the reliablity with turbo's in general... this is the only car i got...and i REALLY REALLY wanna turbo it. the problem: need for the next few years--the car's is my life.

[daSchtick]

It sounds like someone is really interested in working with the Celica. Give him time, and see what he comes up with before criticizing one of the few places interested in being a part of the overlooked Celica aftermarket.

As far as reliability goes, it could probably be reliable as long as the boost levels are kept within reason. Modifications to further increase boost would most likely end in disaster, as the engine was not designed for forced induction.

[sammythebull]

they just replied back to me and this is what they said...

Hi Sam,
Thanks for your interest in Xtech Engineering. I appreciate your
enthusiasm.
As far as the compression ratio goes, we will overcome this
problem by using a smaller turbo - this is good for you, as the cost of
the turbo is less and you can get more from less.
We have spoke with a few other companies that have tried to
develop a kit for the GT-S engine, and found what they have done so we
can try and do things a little faster.
The first thing we'll need to do is get an exhaust manifold
done, and design the turbo mounting system. While the space behind the
engine may be limited and seem like a deterrent to some companies - we
not only look at it as a challenge, but an opportunity to prove the
strength of this car.
We'll keep you posted on our status, and if you have any
comments or questions, please email or call us.
Thanks,
-Chris Clough
Xtech Engineering
http://www.xtecheng.com/
info@xtecheng.com
Ph# 515.708.8001

[BRAK]

Very cool stuff, ill e-mail em this afternoon.

[gts24]

Originally posted by daSchtick
It sounds like someone is really interested in working with the Celica. Give him time, and see what he comes up with before criticizing one of the few places interested in being a part of the overlooked Celica aftermarket.

As far as reliability goes, it could probably be reliable as long as the boost levels are kept within reason. Modifications to further increase boost would most likely end in disaster, as the engine was not designed for forced induction.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIGHT ON.

[infinitegts]

Bottom Line:
This is good news. We need more people working on our car. The problem is there isnt much competition in making parts for the car. We need Greddy and HKS worried theyll lose market share if they dont start producing more for the Celica. F*** there's enough of them on the damm streets! Lets see some forced induction...

[larryd]

<b>xtecheng</b>

my suggestions.. Big T28 turbo with 550 injectors as well as S-AFC for tuning matters.. the exhaust manifold and piping is on you.. but that my suggestions for turbo and fuel.. possibly a Greddy FPR as well.. I dont know if the GTSs 440 injectors would flow enuf, but 550s should be fine..

problem is as I stated before.. David Draper is working on a kit for the Celica GT as we speak, he is planning on including an ECU for this as well with one if its preprogrammed limits set at max boost so people cant blow their cars up. Cuz the Celica community isnt very knowledgeable when it comes to turbos and I would really hate to see someone get their hands on a T28 on a Celica as a bolt on kit, put a boost controller on it, not knowing about compression and blowing up their car..

[gts24]

All good points, I think that as we get to the full production stage of this,
This kit must be sold with a little bit of a warning, that states more or less ... "hey dummy be careful".... ya know?!


And I think that anyone that is serious enough to buy this kit, will have the sense to understand that they need to becareful, and if they aren't careful, apparently they have more than enough money to go ahead and buy a new engine anyways;)

[fastwhipyo]

WOW, that last post is great. And above i posted about the alt car running 12psi, I just read the article about it and it said "the celica's compression CAN be lowered to 8:1 to allow for boost levels exceeding 12psi" so i miss read it. But that just goes to show that anything is possible, and max boost on this engine should be pretty high if hte necessary precautions are taken. O ya, someone might want to tell this xtech that toyota just came out with 2 more cars using the EXACT same vvtli 1.8 engine, this could benifit them in the future since both cars are small sporty cars (ones called the matrix and the other is...i forget..its in car and driver mag this month) so if they do break the ECU code for timing and all those goodies, then they can use the same software for the two new cars if ever needed. They might be interested...a turbo kit for one car is good, but when the same one (or similar since they might have to reroute the manifold piping which isnt a huge deal) can be used on three cars, its even better.

[Maelfyn]

wtf. GTS has 440 injectors? I thought it was 310. Isn't 550 what the Supra's 2JZ uses?

[fastwhipyo]

THANK YOU RACERGTS!! If im not mistaken I have seen a few runs on the 1/4 mile board of someone who ran a mid 13 second 1/4 mile using a 50 shot (maybe 75 i dont remeber). If this is true than a turbo hitting 250whp should give us the same if not better times, correct? And I never said i would run 12psi on stock boost, I know this would be unsafe, even 7.5 seems high with 11.5:1 comp. I want to eventually lower mine to 8:1 which should allow me to run over 12psi withough too many problems everyonce and a while when i have to take out a C5 hehehe...


? about turbo's, Has anyone ever driven a WRX? well is it just me or does that thing start to loose power at like 5500rpms or so? I drove one for a while and thats what it felt like, It feels as if the boost is just dying out. I thought it might be due to its small turbo which spoils super fast and hard but maybe died off on top end as a result. Is this what I think it is or is it just the way the engine is tuned. And if it is the boost curve dropping, how will a small turbo work in a car that shifts into 6k and revs till 8300?

[ZeroGTS]

actually...more psi is possible to be run with engine management. its alla bout control.
a haltech or TEC II type system would allow higher boost levels to be run than you think.

Its all about control..
wihtout management youre not gonna make as much power as youd like.


Im trying to get XS to build me a copy of thei rmanifold.

If they don't...well lets just say im gonna make my own and talk a lotta trash about them....cuz the SAY the kits availiable and ive tryed to buy it...to no avail.

lying just aint cool.

hopefully they are serious.
no flames yet tho plz.

[gts24]

So are you saying that you are close to getting them to send you a manifold or that you are just in the asking stage at this point?

[JDM]

ttt :)

[gts24]

Thanks for the ttt ;) :D

I will make sure to update the progress today. This weekend is when we should have a clearer picture. kit99bar should be taking his car in.................................

[bickley]

Werd, go kitbar go. I wanna see how they're gonna approach this. Post updates:p

[gts24]

Also, please continue writing them and calling them. Every single little bit helps here everyone!!!

[Kry]

Originally posted by gts24
Also, please continue writing them and calling them. Every single little bit helps here everyone!!!

:cool: :cool: :cool:

[JDM]

Originally posted by gts24
Thanks for the ttt ;) :D



No pro man :) I'm as excited as most of you are on this news :D Please keep us in touch with your latest info :)

btw: another ttt :D

[boxologist]

Originally posted by RACERGTS2000
I'm glad to here about the turbo kit and I will also give them a call. But on the XS turbo, if you guys think our cars with a 7.5 psi turbo can't run better than 13.5 your all crazy. Some of us run 14.4 and under just with I/E. (251HP TO THE WHEELS WITH THE TURBO). And yes a corvette would be in our grasp.:eek:

Don't expect reliable sub 13 seconds runs with the celica. It is a front wheel drive car. Honestly, if the kit could eliver a reliable 7psi and u didn't have to open the block, it would be worth it(less than $4k)

The Celica is the entry level of performance, if u really are concerned about beating vettes, look at a different car.

[bickley]

TTT

[fastwhipyo]

Y look at another car when this one boosted will beat covette's just fine...haha, no but for real, someone earlier said that it really depends on managment wether or not the celi will be able to handle high boost (7psi stock block). He is right, if the ECU doesnt adjust correctly or quick enough to compensate ever changing boost pressure and jank, then we will have serious probs. The engine will go all wack and one sec the engine will run perfectly ratioed, then it will jump lean,then go rich and then lean and then kablooeee. If we can get a really stable managment system that wont let the engine run lean even for a slight second (to avoid detonation), and wouldnt let it run to rich (possible hydrolock if something goes super wrong) then the celica should be able to handle 7psi without any problems, but I guess there is only one way to find out for sure.

[gts24]

Ok guys, I love the enthusiasm, and we need to keep it up. all you guys/gals viewing this thread, give 'em a call or an email. They need to hear that we are ready to do this.... and most of you gts owners are MORE than ready for all of this. After this weekend we will know a lot more and after NEXT weekend we will know alot, i'm putting that on the table because this project wont' happen overnight and it wont' happen without your support. So please just take 3-5 mins tonite and email Chris or give him a call, all the information you need is in this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The best thing about this is, this company will be dedicating all their time to OUR car... yeah say that with me... .OUR CAR. They are finishing up the Eclipse GT... so all my friends with Eclipse GT's will be handing it to me for awhile,,, but watch out guys........................................ :) ;)

Once the eclipse GT is done,,, total dedication to the GT-S project. and I know you guys agree that this is the best way.


Keep it up everyone, we are getting a ton of views on this thread, now we need all of you to go into action....

MAN I SOUND LIKE I'M ON THE JERRY LEWIS TELETHON........ .
:p

[GTSgoVROOM]

I've been on this board for a while and have followed different rumors about turbos and s/c... Nothing has showed up except the XS, which I would not buy. Not to flame, but I don't believe it until I see it...

BTW, I'm still crossing my fingers... =0)

[oldster]

Originally posted by fastwhipyo
If we can get a really stable managment system that wont let the engine run lean even for a slight second (to avoid detonation), and wouldnt let it run to rich (possible hydrolock if something goes super wrong) then the celica should be able to handle 7psi without any problems, but I guess there is only one way to find out for sure.

Please, just don't say anything more. :( :eek:

[larryd]

hehe.. exactly my point on what a turbo gts will be BAD ;)

[oldster]

Originally posted by larryd
hehe.. exactly my point on what a turbo gts will be BAD ;)

Actually I was referring to this part: "and wouldnt let it run to rich (possible hydrolock if something goes super wrong)"

My sides were killing me and I can't take it any more.:D

[iDRIVE]

Originally posted by larryd
hehe.. exactly my point on what a turbo gts will be BAD ;)

Turbo RSX-S is bad too....huh:rolleyes:

[ringthree]

Originally posted by larryd
hehe.. exactly my point on what a turbo gts will be BAD ;)

Hey larry when did you start pissing on everyones parade, we already know that there will be boost problems and that fuel management will be an issue. But with proper fuel management a decent boost level (5-6lb maybe even 7) is not out of the question. Fuel management is the KEY issue here.

My kindergarden teacher once told me "If you dont have anything nice to say then SHOVE IT!"

If you want to contribute to the conversations then by all means go ahead but off-handed negative remarks dont do jack for anybody.

Rant done...

[4PASNU]

95 LOTUS ESPRIT S4S. LAST YEAR OF THE 2.2 FOUR CYLINDER 285 HR 277 TORQUE. 0-60 4.6 13.6 QUARTER MILE.
THAT IS ALL VETTE EATING. LOTUS REPROGRAMED CHIP UP'S IT TO 300 HP AND CONSIDERABLE FASTER QUARTERMILE.

NEW V8 ESPRIT TOOK SECOND PLACE THE THE VIPER AND ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FIVE SPEED. IF IT WAS A SIX SPEED IT WOULD HAVE EATEN THE SNAKE ALIVE. SMALL DISPLACEMENT YIELDS BIG MOUTHS. I JUST LOVIN BEING THE UNDERDOG AS LARRY ONCE SAID. THE CELICA WILL SOON BE EATING VETTE'S FOR LUNCH.

[chameleon]

I love your enthusiasim, but come on! Maby the old vettes were in reach but not the new Z06, good drivers are able to break into the high 11's in the 1/4 completely stock! It will take a fourtune to turn the Celica into an 11 second 1/4 mile car. I think that its interesting that you listed a Lotus as an example of what we should be able to experience with a forced indution system on a Celica. Lotus's are RWD! No matter how much boost you shove into a Celica it will always be FWD and have serious traction problems off the line.

I'm not saying that its not possable to turn a Celica into a Vette eating machine, I'm just saying that it would cost an unbalievable amount of money. Were not just talking turbo's and pistons here, we're talking tube frame's.

[nyoneway]

I read about that guy who got 11's on the Vette. I don't think running on a superwide slick giving it a sub 1.6sec 60foot time consider as "stock". Yes the car does not have any power mods, but the driver was driving the vette on slicks, and in my books, its not stock.

Remember the Vette is about 400hp with 3200 or so lbs. We need only around 350hp to match it in a highway race. In a drag race from a standstill, its hard to compare FWD and RWD.

The new vette is around low 12 stock with a great driver. All we need is a build engine with about 1 bar of boost, plus great suspension to go high 12's. That will pretty much give the vette a run for the money.

Anyways, when was the last time you ran into a Vette with a driver who can even drive the car. Most of the people who have it have either auto, or can't drive for their life because they brought it for the image.

And no, its pretty much impossible to get into 11's in a full trim street FWD car. The closest I seen was a SE-R with about 480hp/wheel doing 12.0 flat. If you want to run a vette, you gotta do in like what Supra's are good at - that is, you go from a roll.

[Kit99bar]

when larry said "bad" he meant that as a compliment as in "fast"
you numnuts! :)

Originally posted by ringthree


Hey larry when did you start pissing on everyones parade, we already know that there will be boost problems and that fuel management will be an issue. But with proper fuel management a decent boost level (5-6lb maybe even 7) is not out of the question. Fuel management is the KEY issue here.

My kindergarden teacher once told me "If you dont have anything nice to say then SHOVE IT!"

If you want to contribute to the conversations then by all means go ahead but off-handed negative remarks dont do jack for anybody.

Rant done...

[fastwhipyo]

Awww...you guys didnt like my post about the ECU going wack, well that **** is true, My cuz had an older aftermarket turboed beemer, he put an ecu on it and the ****en thing hydrolocked his engine twice, the first time they thought it was the jets, but after getting it fixed and when it happened the second time they definetly found out it was the ECU goin all wacko, They told hiim that when he let off the gas quickly after reving to redline, the ecu wasnt responding quick enough to counter for the drastic change in fuel mix, the engine had too much fuel per cylinder and couldnt combust it, so it just locked up and threw a rod. This also happened to friend of mine's 740i and my sister's firebird, all because of ECU's gone bad. So anything is possible if you have a ****ty ECU. And the C5's will be in the realm of a well driven GTS running 7psi, C5's run mid 13's which shouldnt be TOO hard to reach with a really good driver.

Anyone else feel some tension on this board? Chill out guys

[fastwhipyo]

O ya, and by the way, i think I started all this talk about beating C5's. I was actually just using that as an expression, saying that the celica will be a quick little car, but if the #'s dont lie, we really do have a chance from about a 20mph role, Like everyone says, its all comes down to the driver.

[fastwhipyo]

What the hell, I just read what some peeps wrote about the ecu alowing for hydolock. Did you notice that I wrote a big SUPER next to wrong like if something gets really screwy, I know the major problem is gonna be running lean, always is, but I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE what can happen with a falty ECU, it only takes a second for it to make the wrong descision and ruin your engine. For those of you who dont believe me, Email a company that makes ECU's and they will tell you just that.

[oldster]

Originally posted by fastwhipyo
What the hell, I just read what some peeps wrote about the ecu alowing for hydolock. Did you notice that I wrote a big SUPER next to wrong like if something gets really screwy, I know the major problem is gonna be running lean, always is, but I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE what can happen with a falty ECU, it only takes a second for it to make the wrong descision and ruin your engine. For those of you who dont believe me, Email a company that makes ECU's and they will tell you just that.

I was the one who laughed at you and a I apologize. In theory what you said is true but would apply to any engine and not just a turbo'd 2ZZ. Course your scenario would be a catastrophic failure and not a tuning issue.:(

[fastwhipyo]

Ya I admit it was kinda random, but some aftermarket ECU's are really just CRAP, Ive herd everything from the engine not even starting after installation to losses in like 10 HP to cars that will idle after instalation but stall the instant it is given gas. I just hope they dont try and cut corners, but im an optomistic person and I have confidence in them. Im gonna shut my mouth now and let the engineering company worry about the engineering details....Im just super anzious to see what this car is capable of, Cant Fing wait. If the kit comes out and I get it, im gonna get one of those clear hoods so peeps can see my riced out engine, hehehe. (NOPE) Also gonna put on an Cessna 172 wing on the back at an 80 degree angle to keep my turboed ass from flying away

[4PASNU]

NYONEWAY. Well here are some cold hard facts on 9, 10 and even 11 sec quarter mile front wheel drives. I even saw the fastest FWD DSM at the shootout in July. Here is the link and here are some quick posts for everyone else. Remeber many of us don't want to beat a vette or ferrari or what ever it may be. I just want to be right next to them waving to and or doing the infamous ROW ROW ROW YOUR BOAT.

http://www.heckconsulting.com//dsm/drag.html

THIS IS FWD TURBO NON-NITROUS

1. 9.772 147.50 6.41 113.54 1.53 94 Eclipse GST Garry Marsh 10/08/00 E-town, NJ 53 Wrightouch Automotive
2. 11.160 123.73 7.068 98.12 1.617 90 Laser GST Donald Polk 07/20/01 Norwalk, OH. Polk Performance
3. 10.765 135.82 7.120 111.91 1.806 90 Talon Tsi Dan Kraft 8/1/99 Maple Grove, PA 94 Extreme Motorsports
4. 11.192 131.44 7.384 105.14 1.812 91 Eclipse Tsi James Lee 05/20/99 Shannonville 83 SpeedAuto
5. 11.533 122.73 7.442 99.06 1.786 98 Eclipse RS turbo'd Bill Hahn Jr 6/19/01 Route 66 Rcwy 86 Hahn RaceCraft
6. 11.58 122.76 7.58 97.94 1.82 90 Eclipse GST Douglas Derby 2/27/00 HRP 80 DDP
7. 11.66 121.02 7.57 95.72 1.811 90 Talon Tsi Rob Mckellar 11/12/00 MIR, MD 50 Extreme Motorsports
8. 11.693 119.34 7.611 96.87 1.857 90 Laser RST Jon Stough 7/11/99 Norwalk, OH 75 DSS / JBC
9. 11.855 121.58 7.814 95.54 1.815 95 Eclipse GST Hector Diaz 04/05/00 carribian Rcwy park 80 Import Autosports
10. 11.887 115.58 7.612 91.61 1.756 91 Laser RST(AT) Kevin Kwiatkowski 10/13/00 Milan Drgwy 65 TRE
:) :eek: :confused: :D

[nyoneway]

If you read my post carefully,

I said "full street trim", meaning full interior street car with street tires. Daily driver.

Of course it be easy to throw in some huge slicks, wheelie bar, gut the car cept for the engine, etc. and get 10" or better.

But I'm talking about a street car you drive everyday and pass emissions.

[ZeroGTS]

ive seen it
honda civic
full street trim.
big ass stereo system too.
nothing more than turbo and engine management.


10.87
full street trim.


Anything is possible if you use computer control.

So yes...a celica can kick a c5 ass.

You just need engine management.
Thats how the civic got VTEC and TURBO working TOGETHER.


so pipe down. we want turbo.
yes we do.

[ringthree]

Originally posted by Kit99bar
when larry said "bad" he meant that as a compliment as in "fast"
you numnuts! :)



DAMN IT STUPID SLANG!! Man if Larry didnt write sentence fragments all the time I would have known better. ;)

Hey larry if you were trying to say bad as in good, then I'm sorry.

But if you meant bad as in bad then SHOVE IT still. :D

It looked like he was referencing oldsters post to me and it was negative (like the engine couldnt take the boost). If I'm wrong then hey it wont be the first time.

[4PASNU]

AGAIN NYONEWAY!!!! I was at the DSM shootout when Donald ran his 11.??? run. It was all stock trim. He did have DRAG RADIALS NOT SLICKS, which are street legal. Why are you so against an 11 or 12 sec Celica. Tell you what, you go ahead and keep being NEGATIVE and as me and other POSITIVE Celica owners are rowing past you and the ricer who you are trying to stroke your ego with you can keep eating your words. See ya on the flip. It's nice have endless supplies of money, the reason for higher education. I'm waiting patiently for pistons and rods and when they come out I will finish the car and shake it down. See you MR. MAN on the flip.

[gts24]

Originally posted by 4PASNU
AGAIN NYONEWAY!!!! I was at the DSM shootout when Donald ran his 11.??? run. It was all stock trim. He did have DRAG RADIALS NOT SLICKS which are street legal. Why are you so against an 11 or 12 sec Celica. Tell you what. You go ahead and keep being negative and as me and other POSITIVE Celica owners are rowing past you and the ricer who you are trying to strok your ego with you can keep eating your words. See ya on the flip. I nice have endless supplies of money, the reason for higher education. I'm waiting patiently for pistons and rods and when they come out I will finish the car and shake it down. See you MR. MAN on the flip.


I hope you are ready to be in line to but the turbo kit... ya are right??? Get the kit and then upgrade the internals and up that boost... it's gonna be a fun world..!

[larryd]

Originally posted by ringthree


DAMN IT STUPID SLANG!! Man if Larry didnt write sentence fragments all the time I would have known better. ;)

Hey larry if you were trying to say bad as in good, then I'm sorry.

But if you meant bad as in bad then SHOVE IT still. :D

It looked like he was referencing oldsters post to me and it was negative (like the engine couldnt take the boost). If I'm wrong then hey it wont be the first time.

no you were right the first time, and you put me in my place rightfully so.. but you did it for the wrong reason.. im not knocking the Celica at all Jake.. im knocking the average Celica owner who is gonna blow their car up becuase they dont know any better. You are not this average owner, you ahve done alot of research adn understand how things work, thats the only way I would ever venture to turbo a car thats n/a.. alot of forehand knowledge.. once again, never knocking the Celica, man I miss my Celi like crazy and Id be the first person with a turbo.. but just predicting what I see to be a definite future..

[Hooby]

Thank you Xtech Engineering for making a kit fer the GT-S...

Now I don't have to listen to Bryan yappin in my ear anymore about no one makin a kit for his car ;)

Glad to hear they're finally makin a kit fer the GT-S....

Hopefully I'll be able to make the trip down to Iowa with ya Bryan....I gotta get outta the cities!!!

Hooby

[ringthree]

Originally posted by larryd


no you were right the first time, and you put me in my place rightfully so.. but you did it for the wrong reason.. im not knocking the Celica at all Jake.. im knocking the average Celica owner who is gonna blow their car up becuase they dont know any better. You are not this average owner, you ahve done alot of research adn understand how things work, thats the only way I would ever venture to turbo a car thats n/a.. alot of forehand knowledge.. once again, never knocking the Celica, man I miss my Celi like crazy and Id be the first person with a turbo.. but just predicting what I see to be a definite future..

Ahhhhhhh, I see and I agree.

But I hope the aftermarket doesnt cater to the lowest common denominator... that would suck for the rest of us.

[nyoneway]

4PASNU

Drag Radials are street legal. But its made specificly for dragging. I'm talking about daily drivers - like the ones they feature on SCC 2 months ago. 4 Daily Driver FWD cars full street trim with street tires. 2 cars came close to 500whp and guess what, they didn't break into 11's. What makes you think you can with just a turbo. I didn't say going to 11's is impossible - I said its near impossible.

Again, drag radials are not tires you would drive on the street to work. Its strictly made for drag racing. You be lucky if it even last a few thousand miles.

Check out this thread on honda-tech (http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=71618&page=2)

Now they're some of the most knowledgeable people on compact FWD cars.

[fastwhipyo]

Actually they do make a few good drag radials that have real thick grooves and handle pretty good in the rain and do have a pretty good tread life. Mostly becuase the tred is like 3/4 of an inch thick though hhahaha. And if you guys read the article that inspired the movie F & F (its under the special catagory on the DVD) you will see that there was a young guy in new york that ran an 11 flat on a car that he drove to the track I believe he also had full interior and built the car himself with a pretty limited budget. So it can be done, but i would rather have a car that ran a 13 second 1/4 mile and could corrner real well so I could go to the road race track and tear that up but its whatever floats your boat. I think road racing takes a whole lot more skill and is a ton more fun, but you cant do that one public roads against an opponent. (not safely)

[fastwhipyo]

Oops I meant deep not think above. 3/4 of an inch DEEP

[CelicaLicious]

i'm going to assume that this never panned out..

[futureceli]

sucks! i was getting so excited too and then i come to the end of this thread and find out that this was a post from early this year. what a waste of time! i read every single post too. *SIGHS* well, it sure looks like this is a "dead thread!"

[Masayver]

Hahaha, what ever happened to this project?

[saiyajinc]

what happened to this kit?!?

[saiyajinc]

alright!!!...pg 3...9 months after the first post!!!....

[bickley]

Somebody should call them, just for grins if nothing else hehehe remind him that the Celica community is still dying to get a turbo kit.

[cool2miketlu]

Originally posted by fastwhipyo
I just sent my letter of recomendation...or whatever it was. Im so freaking excited, the xsengineeing celica was running what...? 13.5's or so on only 12 PSI....cant wait to see the look on the face of a C5 corvette owners face when i slowly pull past him tootin my BOV as i shift through the six speed. (of course mine will be pushing more than 12psi too) but dont corvettes only run like 13.5's or so....?

13.5 on 12psi?? maybe if my grandma was driving it and it is an automatic. hahaha Just playing just saying the number should be higher for a 12psi car.

[gts24]

Thought I'd update the prospects on this. I'm amazed it's been TTT 'd

these guys simply quite answering any of my requests. They totally jumped ship and quit answering emails or anything of that nature.


GUYS THERES plenty of hope out there for forced induction for your car now.

EIP , turbo-performance blitz supercharger very soon....

xs will be making their turbo available in kit form shortly as well.

just keep that in mind.

just look through the FI forum and you'll find that plenty of stuff IS AVAILABLE.

[bickley]

I know, I was just curious as to what happened to these guys. I tried to hit up their website and nadda. It's gone.

[CelicaLicious]

cool i brought a thread to life.. oddly enough i found tis searching for "brake upgrades"

[SupeDriver18]

wait wait wait, i just read 3 damn pages for this xs turbo kit and now your saying no one has heard anything on them for months? so we're not getting a turbo huh?

[futureceli]

Originally posted by SupeDriver18
wait wait wait, i just read 3 damn pages for this xs turbo kit and now your saying no one has heard anything on them for months? so we're not getting a turbo huh?

:rofl: dont feel bad man....i did the same thing!

[SupeDriver18]

haha sucks doesn't it?

[Ntence99]

this isnt the xs kit its the xtech kit.So they just quit huh?well probley better off without them.we want someone who is completley dedicated.

oh and i got a totaly neb question.What does ttt stand for?

[CelicaLicious]

to the top.. i think

[andrewmva]

Originally posted by larryd
well see thats the problem.. is that ALOT of people on here really arent that bright when it comes to how compression works into the equation with a turbo.. hence the reason we need low compression stronger internals.. i would just hate to see a company sell a kit that anyone can have made for like 3,000.. someone slappin a boost controller on it and BAM.. id feel bad but i try adn explain ahead of time..

I cannot count the # of posts that I have put up in referance to turbocharging the GTS and it's need for forged rods and low compression pistons.
Please people educate yourself... use this site and others before going out and wasting $$$ on a POS kit. I'm not trying to get people to just spend $$$ at my shop or anyone elses shop. It is just really pathetic and sad to see what some companies are doing to people....I don't like to see import fanatics getting screwed by thease mickey mouse companies.
-----BE SMART EVERYONE-----
the cheap way to go fast will end up being more expensive in the long run......... I see it everyday.
--- trust me there are no short cuts when turbocharging this engine.... DO IT RIGHT FROM THE START

-and while on the topic.... everyone seems to be looking for a shop to do work..... there are shops with rolling evidence that they can successfully turbocharge the 1zz and 2zz engine.
There currently IS NOT a bolt-on kit and I would not hold your breath waiting for one.
From my experience most of the "bolt-on" kits for the hondas, acura, ect are garbage. The only company I see headed in the right direction with a "kit" is XS.
I think we are at the point where the question is not when is there going to be a shops that can do the work or when is a "kit" going to be out.... the question is when are people going to step up to the plate and have the work done properly??
- I'm Glad that Jersey jay is taking steps in the right direction...
look at his posts.... follow what he does.... I know tht his car will get done right at that shop(personal friends of mine)
Just my $0.02 -but what do I know???:gap:

[xtecheng]

Hi all:

Haven't posted for over a year, so thought I'd chime in and let you know what's up.

First, a couple people said our website was no longer there - I just went there and it works fine? In the last 2 years, I think it has only been down a couple times for maintenance.

Anyhow... we haven't forgotten about anyone here. We are still thinking of building a kit for the GT-S - a dealership in Des Moines, IA is interested in us building a show car for them using a GT-S or a MR-2 Spyder.

If anyone here is still interested in either a turbocharger or supercharger kit, please let us know. We would really like to do it, but want to make sure there is a desire for one before we start pouring thousands of dollars into R&D.

Thanks,
-Chris Clough
http://www.xtecheng.com/
Ph: 515-233-2554

[SpankinGT-S]

BUMPTTTBUMP

[makelr]

hahahaha....i just found this thread...thought id bring it back..someone should just see if they still doing anything...he replied just over a month ago and said they were still working on it.

[Brian00GTS]

Hmm...maybe they'll come back in another year and say they're still thinking about making a kit :gap:

[IRL]

Originally posted by xtecheng
We would really like to do it, but want to make sure there is a desire for one before we start pouring thousands of dollars into R&D.

Thanks,
-Chris Clough
http://www.xtecheng.com/
Ph: 515-233-2554


I especially love this quote. During the initial excitement stage...his post said, "Our goal has always been to have an affordable product

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by IRL
Alot of people on all these boards are all talk. They will bitch and whine about not having a turbo out, yet when it comes down to it...99% of these guys will not cough up the $3000+ it takes.

Spoken by a veteran member who knows what he's talking about. Sad but true.

[Jersey Jay]

Originally posted by Keyshawn


Spoken by a veteran member who knows what he's talking about. Sad but true. I second that!

[xtecheng]

We want to get started on something for you guys, but no one wants to step up to the plate and make it happen.

There's still a Toyota dealership that wants us to build a show car, but that process is slow and they're difficult to get real motivated - all talk, no show.

So... we're still interested - just let us know.

-Chris Clough
xtech, LLC
http://www.xtecheng.com/

[KrazY-2K]

C'mon guys! Someone step up and send these guys a test car! They're clearly willing to develop a kit for us. The more kits the better, not to mention it'll produce competition for XS Engineering, possibly helping to lower prices on turbo kits for us!

[TRD S'Charger]

I emailed TRD and they said they have developed a supercharger for the 1.8 to fit corolla and matrix. They plan to offer for Celica after they figure out the hood clearance issue, until then we'll just have to have our celi asses whipped by blown corolla's and matrix minivan thingamabob's.

How f'ing stupid is TRD to overlook the obvious....yeah their may be alot more matrix - corolla owners on the road but do they care about a supercharger as much as celi owners do? I think not. I would drill a fat hole in my hood, cut a area out with my recipricating saw as big as necessary and install a crude scoop from the infamous J.C. Whitney catalog if would solve the problem. that's how crazy celi owners want more performance. It's obvious to me the CEO of TRD operations is a fat grey haired crack smokin' granny with Alzheimers disease. If i ever meet her, she'll get a bitch slap back to her Ancestors from me.

[Baldhead_J]

:werd:

[celica001]

wow...this is WAY cool cool....wonder if my homies down at TBKO will do a turbo for the celica ... wait...nevermind...they are all bout IS's....damn lucky *******s...600hp lexus's....ehhhh

[celica001]

wait nevermind this thread is OLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLD..