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nyoneway
01-10-2002, 01:01 AM
This guy claimed he has it. With NOS, it makes 240 at the wheels.
He IMs me asking for what Mods I have.

Here's his AOL profile:

Member Name: Jun
Location: Mountain View, Ca
Sex: Male
Marital Status: ???
Hobbies: Driving my Celica GT: Injen Race Division Intake, TRD exhaust system, TRD supercharger, and other stuff that produces 240 plus horsepower at the wheels.
Computers: HP pavillion 7955
Occupation: Student
Personal Quote: ...

and our conversation:

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NY one way: What year is your celica?
XPiNoYmOdEX: 2001
NY one way: and you have a TRD Supercharger?
XPiNoYmOdEX: yah, i got in imported from Japan
XPiNoYmOdEX: the U.S. version should come out this january or february
XPiNoYmOdEX: its only for the gt though
NY one way: I guess you the only one in the states to get it
NY one way: how much it cost you?
XPiNoYmOdEX: 4000
XPiNoYmOdEX: thats with installation
NY one way: how do you know its 240hp at the wheel?
XPiNoYmOdEX: dyno
NY one way: that's like 280hp at the crank
XPiNoYmOdEX: NOS
XPiNoYmOdEX: and other stuff under the hood
NY one way: its amazing that your engine does'nt blow up
XPiNoYmOdEX: yah
NY one way: what times are you running
XPiNoYmOdEX: high 13s at best, but mostly low 14s
NY one way: do you have a auto or something?
NY one way: that's slow for 240hp
XPiNoYmOdEX: naw
XPiNoYmOdEX: thats without the nos
XPiNoYmOdEX: its not really 240 at the wheels without nos
XPiNoYmOdEX: its a lot less
NY one way: where did you get the supercharge imported from?
XPiNoYmOdEX: i have a friend that has some big friends from japan
XPiNoYmOdEX: he made some phone calls and yah
XPiNoYmOdEX: why dont you add xs engineering turbo charger on yours?
XPiNoYmOdEX: bad thing is, it's not carb legal
NY one way: XS is not for sale
NY one way: they only made 1 prototype far as i know
XPiNoYmOdEX: didnt it come out december?
XPiNoYmOdEX: ic
NY one way: no
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Any merits to his story? Or just another ricer?

Keyshawn
01-10-2002, 01:04 AM
He's full of $hit.

Kit99bar
01-10-2002, 03:28 AM
his screenname screamed "LOOK AT ME, I"M A RICER!"

cbr600drm
01-10-2002, 03:58 AM
There is a supercharger that TRD Japan did. The problem with making it available in the U.S has been emisions. A friend of mine who has been a Toyota mechanic for several years told me about it. I hadn't hear that it was being released here, but it does exist.

ProToolsKid
01-10-2002, 10:02 AM
Tell him to take Pics of the SC and email them to you!! Then post them so we can see if it's true.

Chumpchiggy
01-10-2002, 10:14 AM
He's telling the truth...

I know of him... his Dad owns Jun Racing, the company that suplies Honda owners with EVERYTHING on God's green earth.

He's got all the money and connections he needs to make this happen. I don't doubt him a bit. Plus, I've heard talk of him in the Race scene here in Vegas...

oldster
01-10-2002, 11:33 AM
WHAT.............we are not the center of the Celica universe and all knowing.........noooooooooooo!!!!:D :D

CelicaNamja79
01-10-2002, 01:17 PM
JUN racing is pertty big in 408 area.... juss like wat Brian said.. i dont doubt him either.... most of N. california pplz should know or at least heard of "JUN"..... but the TIME part seems kinda BS... high 13's? dang.... with NOS and supercharger? seems like he needs to tune his ride......:D

jotan82
01-10-2002, 01:49 PM
you think if he had the ONLY supercharger IN AMERICA he wouldn't have pix all over the net about tit???

raise the flag please!!!

jun wouldn't tune his engine and not upgrade every single internal part in that 1zz....

that's my opinion

but hey... you know the MOTTO at NC.ORD

"pictures say 1 million words"

and of course

"no mod, no pix"

Keyshawn
01-10-2002, 02:24 PM
jotan82,

I totally agree with you. "No pics, no mod" is a great motto. I'd LOVE to be proven wrong about this, but like with all other claims about our cars, I'll believe it when I see it.

ProToolsKid
01-10-2002, 02:38 PM
WE need someone to import this for the rest of us, NOW. I don't care if I fail emmissions or not. J/K seriously though why hasn't someone tried to do this yet?

Spooner
01-10-2002, 03:51 PM
It doesnt say what year his celica GT is so who knows it probeble isnt a 2,000+ . Then I could see him haveing some part noone knows about cause noone here cares . Just a thought .
Spooner

Keyshawn
01-10-2002, 04:23 PM
Hehe, jeez I'm just gonna say on IM and on all messageboards that I have a turboed Celica with 500 hp to the wheels. Apparently, that's all that's needed for some peeps to believe it.;) Hopefully, someone can provide a little something called "proof" so we can end this speculation. Damn, It would be great if someone clowned me on this one by proving this is real. But I doubt it'll happen.

gt2000quebec
01-10-2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Spooner
It doesnt say what year his celica GT is so who knows it probeble isnt a 2,000+ . Then I could see him haveing some part noone knows about cause noone here cares . Just a thought .
Spooner

NY one way: What year is your celica?
XPiNoYmOdEX: 2001

Chumpchiggy
01-11-2002, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by Keyshawn
Hehe, jeez I'm just gonna say on IM and on all messageboards that I have a turboed Celica with 500 hp to the wheels. Apparently, that's all that's needed for some peeps to believe it.;) Hopefully, someone can provide a little something called "proof" so we can end this speculation. Damn, It would be great if someone clowned me on this one by proving this is real. But I doubt it'll happen.

Keyshawn, let me put it like this...

If you had an unlimited supply of cash, (which Jun does) and wantd to import a TRD supercharger for your celi, wouldn't you do it? Especially if you had all the connections needed to do so...

Now, considering that the "proof" is in the pudding... would you (as a millionaire) care about whether a group of peeps on the interent believed you or not? I wouldn't care a bit...

The thing is, he has all the resources and the cash to do what he says he's done, and he doesn't care to prove it to anyone, unless they're on the street. Get my drift?

I wouldn't give a rats either, I'd be out eating Type-R's for lunch...:D

ringthree
01-11-2002, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Chumpchiggy


Keyshawn, let me put it like this...

If you had an unlimited supply of cash, (which Jun does) and wantd to import a TRD supercharger for your celi, wouldn't you do it? Especially if you had all the connections needed to do so...

Now, considering that the "proof" is in the pudding... would you (as a millionaire) care about whether a group of peeps on the interent believed you or not? I wouldn't care a bit...

The thing is, he has all the resources and the cash to do what he says he's done, and he doesn't care to prove it to anyone, unless they're on the street. Get my drift?

I wouldn't give a rats either, I'd be out eating Type-R's for lunch...:D

Why would the son of the owner of JUN, a HONDA tuner, own a Toyota. Just a curious little conundrum.

chameleon
01-11-2002, 08:31 AM
Why would the son of the owner of JUN, a HONDA tuner, own a Toyota. Just a curious little conundrum.

Mayby he liked the Celica better than anything that Honda had in their line up, I know I do. And just because he has something uniqe that people will drool over doesnt mean that he would definately need to post pics of it all over the internet to make himself feel better about it. I'm not saying that he is necessaraly telling the truth, but he didn't really say anything in the conversation or do anything to suggest that he isn't...

veil320
01-11-2002, 08:33 AM
Jun does make a lot of honda parts, but thay also make tons(and i mean tons of) Nissan parts and Toyota parts as well....you should check out their JZA80...sweet, high speed track car.

ProToolsKid
01-11-2002, 10:45 AM
If there was actually a SC in Japan How Come Toyota Dealers havent tried to import them yet. I mean David D. is importing stuff from Japan all the time how come he didn't stumble across this and try to sell it himself? I mean this is a pretty big item not to find.

dragonfrog
01-11-2002, 11:17 AM
ahem.... jun racing is the company that modded the street legal supra tt that dynoed at 1,000 hp. and that's just because the dyno machine was limited to 1,000hp. that supra was in a lot of mags two months ago.

Chumpchiggy
01-11-2002, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by ProToolsKid
If there was actually a SC in Japan How Come Toyota Dealers havent tried to import them yet. I mean David D. is importing stuff from Japan all the time how come he didn't stumble across this and try to sell it himself? I mean this is a pretty big item not to find.

Because TRD holds a clause, that they will only sell emissions tested, and approved products for their vehicles, to the public. "Off-Road use only" is not something you will ever see on a package from TRD... Unless you are a part of an Actual racing circuit... such as Chris Rado's team. In speaking with Bo, I found out a while back, that Chris's squad had considered using this SC for their Celica but, decided the Turbo'd route was the way to go...

Legally, TRD reps in the US cannot sell this product to the public, and that's why you've never heard of it...

DaksGT
01-11-2002, 01:04 PM
Jun also tunes Toyotas as well.

ProToolsKid
01-11-2002, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Chumpchiggy


Because TRD holds a clause, that they will only sell emissions tested, and approved products for their vehicles, to the public. "Off-Road use only" is not something you will ever see on a package from TRD... Unless you are a part of an Actual racing circuit... such as Chris Rado's team. In speaking with Bo, I found out a while back, that Chris's squad had considered using this SC for their Celica but, decided the Turbo'd route was the way to go...

Legally, TRD reps in the US cannot sell this product to the public, and that's why you've never heard of it...

This is what KAZUMA is for.... And I wasn't talking about TRD anyway I was reffering to a saled guy at a Toyota Dealer. He has been importing JDM Celica stuff for the last couple of months and I'm sure he would have stumbled across this too.

celica gte racing
01-11-2002, 02:02 PM
LOL!!!

thats bull**** everyone. I go to japan every 6 months and all my parts are JDM, I do ALOT of research on JDM parts (believe u me, im partially japanese and I actually was born and raised there), I hang out at the japanese celica board, believe me there is NO TRD supercharger for the GT thats pure bull. Cuz if it did exist i'd already have it. I got connections to toyota and as soon as a TRD part comes out I am aware of it. thats bull****...

also JUN racing is owned by tanaka industrial corporation what the hell are you guys talking about?

Kit99bar
01-11-2002, 02:16 PM
thank you for pointing out the BS

Originally posted by celica gte racing
LOL!!!

thats bull**** everyone. I go to japan every 6 months and all my parts are JDM, I do ALOT of research on JDM parts (believe u me, im partially japanese and I actually was born and raised there), I hang out at the japanese celica board, believe me there is NO TRD supercharger for the GT thats pure bull. Cuz if it did exist i'd already have it. I got connections to toyota and as soon as a TRD part comes out I am aware of it. thats bull****...

also JUN racing is owned by tanaka industrial corporation what the hell are you guys talking about?

Chumpchiggy
01-11-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by celica gte racing
LOL!!!

thats bull**** everyone. I go to japan every 6 months and all my parts are JDM, I do ALOT of research on JDM parts (believe u me, im partially japanese and I actually was born and raised there), I hang out at the japanese celica board, believe me there is NO TRD supercharger for the GT thats pure bull. Cuz if it did exist i'd already have it. I got connections to toyota and as soon as a TRD part comes out I am aware of it. thats bull****...

also JUN racing is owned by tanaka industrial corporation what the hell are you guys talking about?

So, you're right because you're from Japan, and you would know, because you have connections...:rolleyes:

I guess that makes Team World Racing a bunch of liar's... hmm, I think I'll take the word of the proffessionals.

You might be right about Jun, but I doubt it... I've heard too much about him and his business... He might have that corporation as his overhead, but he still owns the shop.

PBI_ceLL
01-11-2002, 02:57 PM
Why is everyone so quick to call BS...He didn't even post this on NC.org..it was a conversation he had w/someone else so who is in the position to call BS especially since he wasn't talking to ANY of us..except, of course, the one person who had the time to record his conversation with someone with a supercharged Celi...you guys have a lot of nerve..lol..I don't know the guy, but if it floats his boat to tell someone that he has a supercharged GT then let that be his cup of tea and leave him alone...you guys really crack me up...

And Jo (protoolskidd)- I have no clue why DD hasn't tried to import this S.O.B yet, but i can't wait to see if he does. It's true that it is illegal, though...

To the "I go to Japan every 6 months" guy- Apparently you have been missing something cause I've never been to Japan and it didn't cost me the price of the plane ticket or even the knowledge of Japan to find out that TRD Japan Does in fact have a supercharger available for cars in Japan..well that's what i heard threw the grape vine and some family members that work at Toyota..but hell..you go there every six months..maybe you should stay here and hang out cause i found out that information in the good ole U.S of A...:D

I'm sure there will be flames to follow..i'll bring the extinguisher so bring em on...:)

celica gte racing
01-11-2002, 03:14 PM
wtf

i just said i go back home every 6months, you guys are flaming me for such a stupid thing without knowing the least of it, what is a price of a plane ticket has got to do? Just like this site - as soon as a part comes out we are all aware of it very quick - same on the japanese board and believe me there are reps from TRD, Blitz, HKS lurking on that board and they give us info as possible, and we are as hungry for forced induction as you are so we wouldn't let any news about it escape. and believe me they get part news much faster than you guys (calling TRD USA and TRD japan is a big difference, the guys at TRD usa are mere "middlemen" with limited knowledge on parts developped by TRD japan) and as soon as I see something new I pass it right along here :( - and u guys flame me like this, you could show me some respect after all the parts I actually introduced to this site, and mind u pb-cell i've been here far longer than u have been so u better becareful fo what u say.

as for jun look for yourself:
http://www.junauto.co.jp/jun-group/index.html?en
http://www.junauto.co.jp/jun-group/machine-shop4.html?en
the owner and president is mr tanaka

sometime you guys really upset me because of your lack of respect for what other people say - and guess what you don't know anything about me for god sakes, I could be working for TRD as far as im concerned..

chump i am quite decieved from what came out of you since I always thought you were the mature and fair admin who did not question other people's integrity.

David Draper
01-11-2002, 03:54 PM
Well....for what's it's worth, TRD Japan is not currently offering a supercharger for the 1ZZ to the very best of my knowledge....

There is no note of it's release on poweraxel.com, TRD USA is unaware of it, and according to TRD's Senior Development Technician, there are no plans for any 1ZZ supercharger to be released until 2003.....

Of course, TRD often uses private individuals/companies to try out their products on, like the V8 superchargers, which have been on cars for over a year now, and still have no set release date....

.....but they don't make them pay for it....

Are we sure this is who he says he is?

David

Keyshawn
01-11-2002, 04:42 PM
David,
That's what I thought also. I haven't heard of TRD Japan having a 1zz Supercharger anywhere (not in the Japanese mags, not with TRD's offfices is Cali, nowhere). Also, if this guy's dad is Japanese and owns Jun (a Japanese tuner company based in Japan) , why is he a Filipino dude (his screename is xpinoymodex) that lives in California?

Furies
01-11-2002, 11:08 PM
lol.....i can imagine this pinoy dude sittin at his computer readin this forum topic clownin on how he fooled lots o' people bout his GT SC.......i'm not saying that he's lying....i don't know pretty much anything about this so then again i shouldn't even be talking...:D

Keyshawn
01-12-2002, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Chumpchiggy


Keyshawn, let me put it like this...

If you had an unlimited supply of cash, (which Jun does) and wantd to import a TRD supercharger for your celi, wouldn't you do it? Especially if you had all the connections needed to do so...

Now, considering that the "proof" is in the pudding... would you (as a millionaire) care about whether a group of peeps on the interent believed you or not? I wouldn't care a bit...

The thing is, he has all the resources and the cash to do what he says he's done, and he doesn't care to prove it to anyone, unless they're on the street. Get my drift?

I wouldn't give a rats either, I'd be out eating Type-R's for lunch...:D

Not trying to start any $hit Chumpchiggy, but WHY would a millionaire with unlimited resources be driving a $17,000 car?

Kit99bar
01-12-2002, 09:58 AM
I dont' understand why you believe this...


Originally posted by Chumpchiggy


So, you're right because you're from Japan, and you would know, because you have connections...:rolleyes:

I guess that makes Team World Racing a bunch of liar's... hmm, I think I'll take the word of the proffessionals.

You might be right about Jun, but I doubt it... I've heard too much about him and his business... He might have that corporation as his overhead, but he still owns the shop.

TwoToneGT-S
01-13-2002, 04:01 PM
maybe someone already asked this but... If his dad or whatever own Jun, and has 'unlimited funds'... why a GT instead of GTS. I know someone said something about Toyota instead of Honda, but why oh why a GT instead of a GTS???? then HE could get XS turbo right? hmmmm i call bs on this as well

Keyshawn
01-13-2002, 04:34 PM
TwoToneGT-S,
Actually, if he was a millionaire's son, do you think he would be driving a Celica at all?

nyoneway
01-13-2002, 06:28 PM
If I was am rich and has a 16-17ish old son who don't have much experience. I ain't going to get him a Ferarri, probably a auto low power car. Knowing that kids can be very irresponsible, I won't be able to trust him yet. Esp when he just learn how to drive.

celicajr2002
01-13-2002, 07:33 PM
actually i went to the LA auto show and asked the toyota lady there her name was shelly and she said that the turbo kit that Blitz is making for the GT-S is avalible in japan and that David Draper at West Coviina toyota could import it from japan. Hey david why you been holding out on us man?

by the way you gotta get this one carb legal

CeLiCrUiSiN
01-13-2002, 08:58 PM
hmm... i dont know a whole lot about forced induction, but if he was running a supercharger, wouldnt he have a custom intake, not an injen race division cai?? i may be way off, but just a thought...

~jake

sneakychaos
01-15-2002, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by jotan82
you think if he had the ONLY supercharger IN AMERICA he wouldn't have pix all over the net about tit???

raise the flag please!!!


http://www.jrcdesigns.com/pics/bsflag.gif

Only because you asked nicely. :D

Chumpchiggy
01-15-2002, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by celica gte racing


chump i am quite decieved from what came out of you since I always thought you were the mature and fair admin who did not question other people's integrity.

Quite deceived? Why so, because I retorted to the use of sarcasm to bring my point across?

And because I'm an Admin, I'm not warranted my OWN opinion but must agree with the general populous of the board? I should think not.

Mature, yes I am. And I did not question your integrity... if you see it that way, I appologize. However, I do question your connections, more so than the Professional Drag team of World Racing.

Keyshawn, if you had all the money you wanted, would you just buy a Ferrari and call it quits? He's a kid, and he's an import tuner.... who cares about the price tag on your hobby? You still participate whether it costs you alot, or a little, right? Besides, if his father has the List of cars I've heard of, his son doesn't need an Exotic, they already have a few... I see your viewpoint but, see mine also...

If I could buy any car I wanted, I would still buy a project car to toy with...

Chumpchiggy
01-15-2002, 08:18 AM
BTW, the TRD supercharger I was reffering to, was for the 2zz application to be used in the GT-S motor. Thus the reason that Team World Racing was looking into it's use...

I realize we are speaking of the 1zz but, who's to say that it doesn't exist?

Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 01:04 PM
Chumpchiggy,
I see your viewpoint. My message is just that we shouldn't believe rumors without proof. I mean David Draper has solid proof that there is NO s/c in Japan, and there are inconsistencies in this guys story. No offense.

Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 03:18 PM
Chumpchiggy,
I see your viewpoint. My message is just that we shouldn't believe rumors without proof. I mean David Draper has solid proof that there is NO s/c in Japan, and there are inconsistencies in this guys story. No offense.

Toms-Celica
01-15-2002, 04:57 PM
http://www.lamer.net/bsflag.gif
This is stupid...
If this person does have this S/C why does'nt he have any pictures? And if this S/C is made by TRD Japan why ain't it listed on their site?

MSR27
01-15-2002, 09:51 PM
Well I live right in his area, Im actually really close to where he lives. Ill IM him and ask him to meet up to see if he really has it.

celica gte racing
01-16-2002, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Chumpchiggy


And because I'm an Admin, I'm not warranted my OWN opinion but must agree with the general populous of the board? I should think not.

Mature, yes I am. And I did not question your integrity... if you see it that way, I appologize. However, I do question your connections, more so than the Professional Drag team of World Racing.


Listen, I wasn't saying you didn't have the right to agree with "the general populous", actually, I wouldn't care, Until my statements (which you criticized) the opinion of "the general populous" had no distictive direction if you recall.

the fact is, We are both right. yes world racing may have a TRD supercharger on the GTS, is it from TRD japan? I don't know. However There is NO TRD supercharger for the GT, in the states, or in Japan. Thats the point im getting accross to you. And if you recall, we were talking about the GT (look at the title), not the GTS, i never denied the SC for the GTS, so what are you talking about? why are you saying you "question" my connections? I'm sorry but its your missunderstanding, and there is no point in you trying to justify anything.

The fact is there is no TRD supercharger for GT in japan, and the fact is jun is owned by Tanaka Junichi (and believe me he is not millionaire), because he is well known where I come from, and I've shown you proof straight from their website, I don't know maybe this guy you are talking about is ahead of JUN operations in the US, but that still does not mean he owns JUN in any way.

So I don't know why you are getting so self-rightious, we are talking about 2 different things, the only problem is, its your misunderstanding, not mine.

PBI_ceLL
01-22-2002, 01:29 PM
I'm sorry Celica GTE if I came across as an arse. The supercharger I heard about was for the 2zz so my argument towards the forced induction matter is void.
My main question, which I should have showed more emphasis on, is WHO CARES if some pnoy kid tells people his pops is japanese and he has a SC from TRD Japan on his car? What does it matter to anyone? OOHHHH You caught another person lying about the stuff they have on his car. Big deal...
I did apologize Mr. Celica GTE sir...but whats with the
"mind u pb-cell i've been here far longer than u have been so u better becareful fo what u say. "
For 1. It's PBI..and 2. a threat? HAHAHAHAHHAHA lol...it's cute, but threats don't make you friends..which is probably why you got so much humor out of this kid with the alleged supercharger. You're so clever..:silly: :biggrin: :silly:
"LOL!!!

thats bull**** everyone"
thanks for callin the bs..lol :doh:

selika2000
01-24-2002, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Toms-Celica
http://www.lamer.net/bsflag.gif
This is stupid...
If this person does have this S/C why does'nt he have any pictures? And if this S/C is made by TRD Japan why ain't it listed on their site?

:bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag:

I won't believe until I see it.. or pictures. You can't always believe everything you hear.. somtimes, like in this case, for me, I need more then just hearsay. :down:

celica gte racing
02-05-2002, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by PBI_ceLL
I'm sorry Celica GTE if I came across as an arse. The supercharger I heard about was for the 2zz so my argument towards the forced induction matter is void.
My main question, which I should have showed more emphasis on, is WHO CARES if some pnoy kid tells people his pops is japanese and he has a SC from TRD Japan on his car? What does it matter to anyone? OOHHHH You caught another person lying about the stuff they have on his car. Big deal...
I did apologize Mr. Celica GTE sir...but whats with the
"mind u pb-cell i've been here far longer than u have been so u better becareful fo what u say. "
For 1. It's PBI..and 2. a threat? HAHAHAHAHHAHA lol...it's cute, but threats don't make you friends..which is probably why you got so much humor out of this kid with the alleged supercharger. You're so clever..:silly: :biggrin: :silly:
"LOL!!!

thats bull**** everyone"
thanks for callin the bs..lol :doh:

Grow up, I don't know what you are going on about, Your stupidity shocks me, you claimed that it didn't take you a price of a plane ticket (unlike "stupid me") to find out that the TRD makes a supercharger for GT in japan, which I disproved, and you are still spitefully blabbing on with immature and retarted comments...

And if you thought me reminding you of the fact that I have been longer than you as a threat, you need some help with your interpretation skills, because what I meant by that comment is that I gave the nc.org community numerous info about japanese parts, and often I was the one who introduced it (ie because I get info quicker unlike your "america center of the earth" theory about parts ).

Very rare to see a hypocryte like you - first you apologize afterwhich you cancel it out with a bunch of immature mockery (non-taken, btw) by trying to undermine me. After all your energy wasted making fun of me, you disclaim everything by saying no one cares... you make absolutely no sense. what is your point?

Stories
02-05-2002, 02:54 PM
I'd also have heard RUMORS of a 1ZZ supercharger going around at the CThree message board, but that died really quickly. Someone said something of a possible 2003 release designed mainly for the Matrix (I guess for the AWD version?). But this really is a stupid battle... he claims to have a TRD S/C, so what? Just as everyone said, it's a claim, no real proof.

Oh, and one more thing, everyone keeps on tossing around the terms GT and GT-S for the Japanese Celica... that's not what it's called over there! The Celica SS-II is the equivalent of the Celica GT-S in America... (2ZZ-GE motor)

Chumpchiggy
02-06-2002, 07:15 AM
this one's done...