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xav3x
01-10-2002, 02:22 AM
i have 300 dollars..
i'd like to get a ~400watt 12" sub.. ( RF or AudioBahn)
and a ~400amp.. (dunno what kind..)

and then put it in an enclosure... kinda like having a portable sub.. so i can take out when need trunk space..

Possible? plexiglass enclosure?? lol.. (am i pushing it?)

or OTHER SUGGESTIONS???

-alvin

-oh i listen to TRANCE.. / STOCK system..

bme107
01-10-2002, 05:04 AM
I know they are expensive, but i always start with Crutchfield (http://www.crutchfield.com) for ideas.
The cheapest RF 12" (http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-wh2dC4RYOse/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=10&g=67700&I=575RFP3412&o=m&a=0) they have is $130, 50-200W rms and 400W peak. An RF amp (http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-wh2dC4RYOse/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=3&g=130&I=575H11501&o=p&a=0) that might match up well is $200. And then you have the price of the box, misc wiring and labor if you don't do it all yourself.

I think that a $300 budget is a bit low for what you are looking for. $400 would better and with $500 you will be very impressed. Somebody can probably hook you up with a better price on these, but I don't think that $300 will get the job done.

xav3x
01-10-2002, 09:02 AM
Thank you very much! I will go ahead and save up some more money. In the mean time I'll have to educate myself. Crutchfield you say huh? I'll buy some magazines and check it out. Thank you for all your suggestions. my aim: xav3x if u have further suggestions.. or model specifics... thanks!

00GTS
01-10-2002, 11:15 AM
Whatever you do do NOT buy from Crutchfield. You can get the exact same prices from just about any electronics store and save the mail order hassle. Use Crutchfield for research, not purchasing.

-Josh

xav3x
01-10-2002, 12:02 PM
ok i wont' order it from crutchfield... :]

oh i checked out the $130 RF and it bumps nicely.. the amp was about $160 500w. so i know what u mean now..

i asked a professional and he suggested 500w PPI amp.. and 12" square KICKER. which takes me to about 700 dollars!! woah..
i looked at autosound&security.. and yep i see the same setup. gosh.. expensive stuff...

thanks u guys...

2kgtx
01-10-2002, 07:21 PM
With 300 dollars you could at most get a self-amp'ed Bazooka tube which really sucks I had one in my old car and it was dead after a year I don't recommend this save your money, My system now just for the amp for the subs, the 2 tens and the enclosure installed was 850.00

nyoneway
01-11-2002, 02:49 PM
I brought a 10" Infinity Sub with Enclosure new on Ebay for $140 shipped. A Orion Cobalt Amp on Ubid for $60 shipped.

$200, **** hits pretty hard, accurate... and don't weight down my car a whole lot.

JLsubs
01-12-2002, 01:37 AM
xav3x i jsut send you a private message about the subs. You live really close to me. Temple city. Check pm if you are interest.

staackman
01-15-2002, 05:40 PM
well i could hook you up with an audiobahn system that would pound really hard and sound killer...dual 10" bandpass box with subs, neon, plexi and mirrors, and a 2201 audiobahn amp, sold many of these packages and never had a problem...prices would be $300 plus shipping and handling then you could have someone hook it up or i could add in an amp wire kit and a line level converter that has remote on trigger for about $75...

Youngen
01-20-2002, 06:13 AM
well I checked this out for myself at a local car shop. I could get a good system for 200-300 but thats if I kept the stock radio. Radio adds 100-200 dollars.. soo.. for a godo amp (1000 watter) $80

Then Speakers (2 10")
100-150

and then if you install it yourself if your familar with wiring and eletronics thats it, just go by the tools and other necessary things ($20 if you don't got anything) and thats it.. then just save up for the new radio and when that is done. just take the stock out and plug everything into the new one. theres your limit, though I might be able to get factory price from him soon so :) good for me but thats your price unless you work for a awsome guy like this!

LiqSilv01
01-22-2002, 11:30 AM
I'm selling my system if you want all Audiobahn. Here's what it is:

2 12" Audiobahn AW1200's (700 watt peak each)
1 600 watt Audiobahn amp ( 350 watts to each sub)
Dual 12" enclosure

This system hits very hard and everything is in perfect condition.
I will sell for $300+ shipping.

kabal57
01-23-2002, 07:51 PM
naw man, you dont wanna mess with audiobahn. I thiink those speakers need loads of power to be at their best. I have had a few pairs of them and was only feeding 400 watts apiece, and they didnt sound too impressive. Besides, if you only gonna spend 150 on a amp, I dont think youre gonna get a very powerful one for that.
I would suggest 1 Image Dynamics IDQ V2 12" sub, (bout 100 bones on the net) then spend the other 200 on a better amp. You can get some of the older phoenix gold XS series amps for close to $200.... not the most powerful, but very good and reliable.
Hope this helps
Oh ya, Crutchfield is a serious ripoff. They charge almost twice as much as net sites for the same stuff...

thaichi8
02-14-2002, 02:15 PM
how many amp/s do you need for the GTS?
will one amp with 4 channels work?

bme107
02-15-2002, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by thaichi8
how many amp/s do you need for the GTS?
will one amp with 4 channels work?
To run what? All 8 speakers in the premium system? A sub in the trunk?

An amp w/ 4 channels will run 4 speakers (or less depending on how you wire it).

nyoneway
02-15-2002, 11:57 AM
bme107, you don't know what you are talking about. You are buying into the crap that the car companies are giving you.

The Celica only have 4 channels. A Tweeter/Mid/Woofer is = 1 Channel. Not 3 speakers. We do not have 6 speakers in the front of our car like the car manufacturer said.

I have a PPI 2 channel Amp running all the speakers in my car, plus a 2 channel bridged running my sub and it gets plenty of compliments on Sound quality and I can even pump it pretty loud.

00GTS
02-16-2002, 12:57 PM
Uh...yes, we DO have 6 speakers in the front of our car. Yes, they are running of two channels but it's still 6 speakers.

In any case, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the number of speakers. You can put as many speakers on a single channel as you want, all you're doing is screwing up the resistance. If you make it more than 4 ohms you will get less power. Less than 4 ohms and you will get more power at the risk of destroying your amp.

-Josh

nyoneway
02-17-2002, 01:55 AM
Oh please.

Tweeter/Mid/Woofer does not = to 3 speakers. Esp when they play seperate frequencies seperated by a crossover. They are 3 components that make up 1 speaker. Car manufacturers use that to mislead people.

00GTS
02-17-2002, 04:03 PM
Uh...guh?

Sorry, you're off in some other dimension where marketing hype acutally matters. We're talking about wiring a stereo, not trying to sell you a car.

So, my subwoofer and my rear speakers are really one speaker? I mean, they are on the same channel and they are crossed over...it must be some marketing telling me that I really have three speakers...

Let me try it another way: in the Celica's "component speaker" there are three *resistors*. You must match the total *resistance* of these three resistors to your amp at some sort of safe level.

There, is that clear enough for you?

-Josh

Da Kine Guy
02-18-2002, 12:27 PM
How about this one? In the Celica we have 6 "drivers" up front making two speakers and two full-range speakers in the back :)

I think nyoneway is thinking about this kinda like home theater speakers. You refer to those boxes each as a speaker, and each component of that speaker is usually called a driver. Think about it, how many people refer to their sub-woofer, tweeter, or mid-base as a speaker? They usually call it by its name. It's kinda different in a car, but if you think of the door panel as the "box" that the drivers are mounted on I can see someone calling the whole thing one speaker, even though it consists of 3 drivers.

nyoneway
02-18-2002, 12:55 PM
Da Kine Guy: you hit the nail dead on.