Celica GT 5 Speed Z28 Camaro

[XteSy17]

i was driving on the parkway going down around the shore area...i came out of a toll both and noticed that there was a z28 next to me...i ignored him till he cut me off then put on the hazards so i was like wtf??? i droped into 3rd and caught up then put it into fourth....he wasn't paying any attention to me so i did it to him...he got mad so we were off..this kid was about 20 or so i guess...we are both flying down the parkway..im going about 110 and he is too then i start to pull on him in fourth i put it into fifth and hes gone...i see him in my rear view very angry i get to the next toll and he asks if my car is a v6 i said nope its a 4 and he just sped off...now as far as mods i have an act clutch, injen cold air intake, and trd lightweight flywheel...so either he can't drive or my car is faster than i thought...i would like to hear some responces but please im not lying i had a witness in my car

[DaksGT]

Lets not and say we did.

[fastwhipyo]

What year was the Z? If it was an older automatic this could have easily been true. Those cars are fast brand new, but like everyone knows those engines start to loose power if there are not properly maintaned throught the years...If it was newer than say...95 or so, then Im not real sure, The V6's are cake but the Z28's are pretty quick, especially off the line with all that torque.

[larryd]

hmmm... man you are just begging to be flamed.. if that was a 93+ Camaro Z28 he would have eaten you alive on the highway.. no offense but a highly modded GTS with excellent driver stands little chance against a Z28 little own a GT..

[memphis_raynes]

uhm......yea.......i doubt it.

[iwantaferrari]

yeah, that car had to be ragged to hell and back
if you dont believe that i do have a bridge in brooklyn i'll sell ya cheap :)

[SlasherX]

where do you find these people?

larry, you need an IQ test for new members.

[z12f09]

about a year ago i was drivin an auto gt back from saratoga and this kid (25 or so) was bein cool drivin parallel with me on an open 3 lane highway. I was ignorin him for a while, then i got behind him and we came up to some traffic, once we were through, he hit the gas, and so did i. he got in the middle lane and i was in the fast lane. he let me catch up and we were side by side at about 105. then he must have downshifted and bamm! he was shootin up the road. i was laughin cause he smoked me real bad. he was cool though, cause he fell back and was hang with me for a few miles til we got off the same exit. it was the latest model z28. lesson learned: he woop'd my azz. but it was still fun

[XteSy17]

the year of the car was around the 97 not the newest body stlye and for anyone who doesn't know those cars top out at about 110 or 120...so trust me a celica can beat it plus all of american car torque is at lower rpms not higher so if its rolling already then they are worthless..

[fastwhipyo]

xtesy...Im sorry but if it was a 97 Z28 you would have lost...even if it was an auto and it had five fatties in it. Ive raced a few of those things and I couldnt really keep up, especially off the line but not even on the highway really, it was a 5 speed though. If it was like a 85 or something you might have had a chance. haha, My guess is that it was a 6 cyl with a Z28 badge but even then the newer v6's are still somewhat quick, it would still be a strugle for a GT.

[XteSy17]

well it was a camaro with a z28 sticker i don't know what else to say but thats what i saw and i didn't pull over and open the hood to see 2 hamsters stuggling to run....but the v6 mustangs i raced and that was no problem off the line so i figure if there was a v8 camaro on the highway doing 120 then he can't really go much faster...so thats why i was ahead i guess but i had someone with me in the car as my proof...lol

[fastwhipyo]

Yea, i guess anything is possible given the right circumstances,but i have a friend with an SS and he got it up to 150 with me in it...scariest **** I have ever done. and it still pulls like hell after 120, he could have gone more but it was scary enough (when does the speed limiter kick in on those beasts anyway) The Z28's arent as fast but are still sub 14 sec cars if driven really well, probably 14.2 or so with a somewhat good driver and a 5 speed. So your comparing a 14 sec car to a 16 sec car (or so) and for those of you that think that becuase our engines have a great top end the cars speed has a great top end are wrong. Torque is really what you need to power you through the MASSIVE air resistence cars have at 120+ mph. The ONLY reason a TA or Z28 wouldnt be able to keep up after high speeds would be becuase of gearing. If he had his car geared to do the 1/4 mile then of course he wouldnt be able to keep up with even a 91 honda accord on top end. I mean, Our cars do pull hard after 6k, but the lack of torque can REALLY be felt if you take the GTS above 120mph. Not real sure about the GT, but im sure its even worse since they lack the HP and a few ft/lbs

[XteSy17]

i agree with you on that but im not afraid to keep going faster maybe that guy wasn't...plus i like to race at high speeds on the highway because in the 1/4 i suck

[fastwhipyo]

haha, more power to ya then cause that **** scares me. 120mph + is not my territory at all, Im a physics junky and i know what happens to your body when you accelerate from 120mph to 0mph in only a fraction of a second and I guess just the thought of it is enough for me to stay away from high speeds. This coming from a guy who doesnt like to drive down unlined back roads (there is a **** load of htem around here) becuase im scared of a head on collision, haha. call me ***** if you want but i just straight up dont trust people coming at me at 60mph with only a few feet between us while they talk on thier cell phones or some stupid ****.

[XteSy17]

thats really true but i just don't think of that i like the open road with only a couple of cars around to make things more challenging when 2 cars go at it and it doesn't matter whos faster its just who is the one not scared of going that fast

[SlasherX]

am i really reading this ****?:eek:

1. There is no way in hell your auto GT is beating any of those cars from any speed, PERIOD.

2. Stop smoking crack. It kills.

3. No one who knows that you have a GT Auto and is a V6 or V8 pony car is going to waste much of their time on you. Stop psturing your 17-18 second car as somethign its not and go out and get some damned groceries in it while looking like a man-gina cuz you can't shift a manual.

4. Threads like these make the overall I.Q. of this board drop, please go away.

5. I have a V6 Mustang sitting right here that woudl love to show you just how much BS is coming out of your mouth. You obviously know nothing.

[XteSy17]

well if you read this correctly you would know that my car is not auto how can i be auto with a flywheel and clutch upgrade...second off bring a v6 mustang to race me they are not as fast as everyone thinks i know about mustangs they are one of the slowest american cars...so say what you want but there is no way that your v6 mustang is going to touch me

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
well if you read this correctly you would know that my car is not auto how can i be auto with a flywheel and clutch upgrade...second off bring a v6 mustang to race me they are not as fast as everyone thinks i know about mustangs they are one of the slowest american cars...so say what you want but there is no way that your v6 mustang is going to touch me

:rolleyes:

ok lets do this...go to a strip, run your best time.

i'll go to a strip and then run without nitrous or any power adder.

my track opens in march(late start), but i'll have several witnesses to it so you will know i'm not lying about what i ran, etc. i'll even post the timeslip.

all you have to do is the same thing. bring some witnesses off of this board, who can post under a different ip address(no phantom accounts here), post your best slip, and ill show you why you have your "facts" so unbeleivably wrong.

[XteSy17]

well i just got bored so i checked up on a v6 rustang 2001 newest fastest model V6 and the best time it ever ran was a 15.5 so take your sorry rustang me to car and say what you want but there is no way that your car will beat mine...sorry...maybe others but not mine

[fastwhipyo]

Slasherx, Look man, we all know that no GT probably not even with a turbo is gonna run a new Z28, but who knows maybe this dude got a flat tire or something and bang, the GT wins, haha. maybe he misshifted and blew up his engine and was just coasing so it looked like he was racing becuase the GT was slowly pulling away from a coasting Z28 (ouch that hurts), and the older V6 stangs are NOT fast at all, they too are mid to high 16 second cars...no to respecable. And, Y would a Z28 wanna waste its time with a 140hp car at high speeds where he could risk getting a ticket, my guess is that he wasnt and they mistook him for racing. You never know what could have happened. Hell, maybe he had 3 bad spark plugs and was running on 5 cyl. then the GT would have slowly pulled away like it says, haha.

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
well i just got bored so i checked up on a v6 rustang 2001 newest fastest model V6 and the best time it ever ran was a 15.5 so take your sorry rustang me to car and say what you want but there is no way that your car will beat mine...sorry...maybe others but not mine

don't back out cuz im not close to being stock. you DID say v6 mustangs, didn't you? well here is one right here! prove yourself, or im gonna write dumbass on your forehead.

btw, i cut a 15.4 stock wheelhopping thru 2nd...dont give me that 2001 newest best crap.

when you make ridiculous claims on here, be ready to have your BS called.

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by fastwhipyo
Slasherx, Look man, we all know that no GT probably not even with a turbo is gonna run a new Z28, but who knows maybe this dude got a flat tire or something and bang, the GT wins, haha. maybe he misshifted and blew up his engine and was just coasing so it looked like he was racing becuase the GT was slowly pulling away from a coasting Z28 (ouch that hurts), and the older V6 stangs are NOT fast at all, they too are mid to high 16 second cars...no to respecable. And, Y would a Z28 wanna waste its time with a 140hp car at high speeds where he could risk getting a ticket, my guess is that he wasnt and they mistook him for racing. You never know what could have happened. Hell, maybe he had 3 bad spark plugs and was running on 5 cyl. then the GT would have slowly pulled away like it says, haha.

i understand that, but he doesn't. he "beat" a 97 camaro z28 remember? its ridiculous!

EDIT: looking back, more than likely it was a v6 camaro with a z28 badge on it. otherwise all you said above had to have occured.

[XteSy17]

well lets think back in time now im going 120 + and he is going just about as fast but im ahead umm..it does not take a rocket scentist to see that just mabye he slowed down or he gave up but if im going 120 and i pass a car who had their hazards on i just think that it was a race...so grow up and realize that imports can be faster than american cars

[fastwhipyo]

wo hold up extesy did you just say that the 15.5 second mustang is no contest to your GT? what are you running in that thing? If your are running better than 15.5 with only an ex/in then that is simply amazing. I thought those things were running like 16s best stock (ex/in helps by like .2 secs). slasher, is the 15.4 with the mods...or not and what mods do you ahve on that thing? I got a bud with a 96 V6 stang and he is trying to make it faster what do you recomend that he do to it with his 2k bucks or so?

[XteSy17]

i have a cold air intake, act clutch, trd flywheel and that all im saying...no NOS or turbo or supercharger..n/a

[SlasherX]

15.4 was stock cept a k&n. my mods are in the link in my sig. nothing left for me to do to the car other than s/c, internals, or nitrous.

looking at buying a 93 cobra, so im done spending big money on this car, but as she sits, shes a bonafide 14 second car easy.


unfortunately, the 94-=98 v6's had bad flowing heads, intakes, bad cam, etc...they just don't have as much potential as the 99 ups..if i was him, id take that 2k and invest it into a DP on another car, or run nitrous and get some slicks with some head work.. the stock intrnals can handle a 100 shot if you up the injectors and fuel pump.

by comparision the 99 up v6 starts off with 190hp, and better flowing intakes, etc. it also has an extra balance shaft, and is a strengthened block.

his GT wouldn't have a chance in hell. unless all that stereo equipment and those altezza's add the 60hp or so he'd need t run in the low 15's/high 14's...and even then, he would lose.

[XteSy17]

im just going to stop before you embarrass yourself even more...you spent all that money in your car and you think its fast but its not and plus with all that money your car still looks bad...with the fake ram air hood..and the slow horse on the front not to be mean but those cars are a joke worse that a honda...

[iwantaferrari]

ok since american cars are so slow you want to run me? from about 100 roll or so... bring it :) my car pulls 150 in 4th pretty solid and keeps going in 5th :eek:
shut up and go away before i make you my bitch, ****ing ricer. go buy a GTS 5-speed at least, those are somewhat respectable

[XteSy17]

well a gts is a 6 speed not 5 so get your head on straight and also is your car a manual or auto..because of course is pulls in 4 at 150 if its auto and plus your car is a 5.0 the only respectable mustang his is a v6 3.2 i think right or 3.6

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
im just going to stop before you embarrass yourself even more...you spent all that money in your car and you think its fast but its not and plus with all that money your car still looks bad...with the fake ram air hood..and the slow horse on the front not to be mean but those cars are a joke worse that a honda...

i refuse to take advice about car looks from someone who puts clear tail lights on their car. run along, Uncle Ben wants his car back.

whats funny is i know that i spent more with everything on my car than you have out the door with just your msrp, not even including all the crap you put on it.

now run along now..your car has less hp than a stock v6 puts to the wheels...dumbass.

[XteSy17]

im the dumbass but your the idiot who just looks at horse power you may have some more than me stock but im what 500lbs lighter or more

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
well a gts is a 6 speed not 5 so get your head on straight and also is your car a manual or auto..because of course is pulls in 4 at 150 if its auto and plus your car is a 5.0 the only respectable mustang his is a v6 3.2 i think right or 3.6

so let me get this straight, you looked up the facts on a 2001 v6, but you dont even know the correct size of its engine?

its a 3.8. keep typing you might have a good career ahead as a human speedbump, since your brain is just mush anyway.

[iwantaferrari]

yeah yeah yeah 6 speed my bad

ive ridden in daves car on many occasions, its not slow by any measure (unless you drive 10sec cars all the time or something)
learn some more things about mustangs please..... ive still got the stock 2.73 gear out back here is my dyno run made in 4th gear
http://people.clemson.edu/~brewerk/misc/car/dynoAFratio.gif

notice at redline (5800rpms) the speed is 152mph

your car is slower than daves, he runs even with GTSs on a regular basis

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
im the dumbass but your the idiot who just looks at horse power you may have some more than me stock but im what 500lbs lighter or more

then why is your car still stuck in the 16's stock?

[XteSy17]

well my best time is a 15.3 and his best time is a 15.4 so that means i win...ok and you are not pulling hard a 150 you are topping out at 152 so you mean that you pulled really hard for 2 mph more..please

[XteSy17]

ok but im not in the 16s and your trying to tell me about being fast when you have the slower mustang and i have a slower celica...well the gts will beat your car and the v8 will beat mine im not trying to say that off a line im going to take a v8 anything but when we are on the highway a stock v8 will not beat a stock 4 i have a friend who has a v8 and his tops out at 120 while i keep going..

[iwantaferrari]

you do realise i have another gear after that

id like to see you touch 140 much less 150

[iwantaferrari]

Originally posted by XteSy17
ok but im not in the 16s and your trying to tell me about being fast when you have the slower mustang and i have a slower celica...well the gts will beat your car and the v8 will beat mine im not trying to say that off a line im going to take a v8 anything but when we are on the highway a stock v8 will not beat a stock 4 i have a friend who has a v8 and his tops out at 120 while i keep going..

120... he must have a V8 truck or something

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
well my best time is a 15.3 and his best time is a 15.4 so that means i win...ok and you are not pulling hard a 150 you are topping out at 152 so you mean that you pulled really hard for 2 mph more..please

haha congratualtions...you hit 15.3 modded.

i hit 15.4 spinning thru first and wheelhopping when i was STOCK.

[XteSy17]

ok so i take it that your car is a 5 speed then...otherwise your other gear is overdrive and that would slow you down...and by the way my car hit 150 with out hitting the redline

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
ok but im not in the 16s and your trying to tell me about being fast when you have the slower mustang and i have a slower celica...well the gts will beat your car and the v8 will beat mine im not trying to say that off a line im going to take a v8 anything but when we are on the highway a stock v8 will not beat a stock 4 i have a friend who has a v8 and his tops out at 120 while i keep going..

HOLY **** YOU'RE A MORON!:eek:

[XteSy17]

ok whatever just remember what your driving a ford (found on road dead) while im just going by waving

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
ok whatever just remember what your driving a ford (found on road dead) while im just going by waving

waving like this?
<img src="http://www.wsbf.net/phpBB/images/smiles/gay.gif">

and sorry, i wont see you much, i dont look in my rear view while driving.

[iwantaferrari]

ok so your slamming relability now eh? go look around on this board and you will find a million people with GTs and GTS that are like "my car wont hit second cam" "my car blew its engine" "my tranny grinds" etc....
how many probs do the new V6s have? none
my car is currently at 151k miles and it still runs like a champ, uses no oil.... lets see you say the same for your car at that much mileage

[XteSy17]

thats ok you won't need a rear view mirror...because when im going around the bend at 120 way in front of you and i look in my rear view i will see a little sliver ford spining around in circles becuase they can't go around a bend at 120

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
thats ok you won't need a rear view mirror...because when im going around the bend at 120 way in front of you and i look in my rear view i will see a little sliver ford spining around in circles becuase they can't go around a bend at 120


*POINTS FINGER AT THE DUMB RICER*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[XteSy17]

i have had no problems with my motor execpt the fact that the deal did not put oil in it when they changed it but i still drove 203 miles with no oil and it still ran...thats reliability...i drove an american car before this and it had nothing but problems...now i know that you bought a mustang to be a cool guy and try to act tough but when a little 4 cylinder import $hits all over you then don't start crying about it

[blackpony]

let's try using logic here for a change shall we?

you: 15.3....modded

z28(lt1): 13.7-14.0

z28(ls1): 12.9-13.4

seems like you would lose. but i belive you. those imports are fast as hell. i saw a really ugly orange one with crappy stickers on the side out run an old rust bucket of a charger that had a blower sticking out of the hood once. the supra only has 500hp while the charger had 900+hp and could smoke the tires while picking up the front end a good 3 feet in the air at launch. too bad the charger wieghs 700 pounds more than the supra.

oh wait... THAT'S JUST A ****ING MOVIE!!!!

guess you saw it too huh?

now go pull your head out of your ass nancy boy.

[XteSy17]

now if any of you ***got were paying attention i did not say that i would beat it in the 1/4 now did i...i said i raced a camaro on the parkway that had a z28 emblem on the side and he could not keep up at 120...did i ever mention that i was on the ****ing 1/4 mile NO I DIDN'T so takes those stats and stick it up your ****ing @ss

[blackpony]

hehehe.... next he will out running me!

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
i have had no problems with my motor execpt the fact that the deal did not put oil in it when they changed it but i still drove 203 miles with no oil and it still ran...thats reliability...i drove an american car before this and it had nothing but problems...now i know that you bought a mustang to be a cool guy and try to act tough but when a little 4 cylinder import $hits all over you then don't start crying about it

<img src="http://people.clemson.edu/~brewerk/misc/funnystuff/capacity.jpg">

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
now if any of you ***got were paying attention i did not say that i would beat it in the 1/4 now did i...i said i raced a camaro on the parkway that had a z28 emblem on the side and he could not keep up at 120...did i ever mention that i was on the ****ing 1/4 mile NO I DIDN'T so takes those stats and stick it up your ****ing @ss

people like you give import owners a bad name. cuz anyone who knows anything about cars past "what phatty clear tailights would werk wit mah neon license plate frame" sees you as an idiot.

[XteSy17]

ok man you win but just let me say this....we are on a celica board you drive a mustang why in the world are you on this site

[blackpony]

we are here to protect the world from dumbass liars like you!

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by XteSy17
ok man you win but just let me say this....we are on a celica board you drive a mustang why in the world are you on this site

to protect the world from people like you. i dont know whats mroe sad though..the fact that you firmly believe that you are right(which you really areNOT). or the fact that you think your car is fast.

[FastDriver]

xtesy, you are a retard. You're talking pretty big to Dave because you know he won't come up and actually race you, but I, on the other hand, would love to meet at a track with you. I go to school about an hour away from you, and would be more than happy to pay your entrance fee if you can run faster than a 15.5 the way your car sits now. With any luck, we'll find a V6 mustang at the track you can run.

Celica GTs are fun little cars, I'm sure. But, you definately did not outrun a V8 Camaro. The last V8 camaro that was in the 16s, I can't even remember. Hell, even the old 305 TPIs could break into the 15s. BTW, any V8 camaro newer than 93 is good for 150 mph easy.

BTW, flashers does not mean they are racing, it means the race is over. You lost.

I personally could care less if you like mustangs, or the way they look, but don't talk **** if you don't have ****.

Chris

[fastwhipyo]

ahh....corection time. First off, whoever said that the GTS or GT has had lots of problems, there wrong. The problems they have had are becuase of driver error, people shifting into 2nd on accident (really easy to do with 6 speed, gears are super close together) If you read anything on the 2zz engine you will find that it is one of the most reliable out. I have never herd of one blowing up on its own or a trans goin out on its own, its all due to driver error. Next, the guys i mentioned earlier with the V6 stang. He just got a new engine in it cause it locked up for no reason goin down the highway with only 54000 miles on it. Not saying ford is bad in any way, but **** happens. Next, the supra in FATF had 700hp without using the 100shot of NOS (800 net). check it out on SUPRASTORE.com. With the nos the supra probaly would have edged out the mustang due to less HP loss at wheels and less weight. But who knows, it is just a movie but the supra was a real car and it is for sale on suprastore.com. Also, the celica GT is slow. No matter what you say, it is about equal with a civic hatchback with 130hp (they weigh less). If your really pulling 15.3's thats pretty amazing, but remember there are GTS's out there pulling 14.5 stock and a few 14.3's with in/ex so why not just buy the GTS instead of put thousands into the GT? when/if this turbo kits comes out you will see GTS's drop into the low 13's. Lets just give this whole thing up guys, we know the new v6 stangs will probably run a stock celi GT. and most likely even a moded one. And we all know a GT didnt take a new Z28 with either of the listed engines in it, no matter what the mods on the GT are (unless hes got mad NOS).

[BpuTacoma]

geez 150, i get stopped at 120, i have a govener, and i do have torque to keep going.

talk about a flame war ehh...

hey fastwhipyo, have your friend swap a 5.0 into his stang. it's realitivly cheap, and insurance will still be for the "v6".

what so you guys think, if i say that i can beat LT-1 camaro's ?

[FastDriver]

I'd say anything is possible, in a well modded vehicle. Otherwise I'd say, I'm o kill yuo mofo. You best be faster than a LT1 or I'm gonna catch you and pop a cap yo' ass.

[fastwhipyo]

BPUtacoma...when he blew his engine up (like i said in above post) he tried to get them to drop a 4.6lt engine in it, but they wouldt do it. They said it wouldnt pass emissions or sometihng but wouldnt a new exaust fix that? I was a little confused when i herd they wouldnt swap the engines out because of emisions, i mean they use the engine for the GT's so why couldnt they just swap over the exaust/trans/engine and be ok? But ill let him know and tell him to do research on the 5.0 engine, that would be pretty sweet if he could swap them out for pretty cheap. He is a do it himself type of person so i would think him and his dad could do it and save a **** load of money

[cjbaldw]

Originally posted by XteSy17
ok so i take it that your car is a 5 speed then...otherwise your other gear is overdrive and that would slow you down...and by the way my car hit 150 with out hitting the redline

OK OK, this whole thread needs to be locked before it heads completely downhill. :)

That said, XteSy17, do you have any idea of the phyics behind what it takes to accelerate a car to 150MPH? You have all of two performance modifications to your car, a "cold air" intake from Injen which if you are lucky adds 5-7WHP and a TRD flywheel, which we'll be generous and say adds 10WHP. Stock, you have, what, 130 flywheel HP? so let's be generous and say your mods pushed you to 150 or even 160 flywheel HP. Now, the GT-S 6-speed, with 180 flywheel HP, CANNOT reach anywhere NEAR 150MPH true speed when stock. GT-S's even with I/E mods cannot really do so, once again, true 150MPH speed. Quick reminder, speedos are notoriously off as much as 20MPH at speeds that high as well, so just because your speedo says something, in fact means nothing, sorry to say.

That said, I've no doubt you are proud of your car. What I'm hoping here is that the 17 in your username indicates your relatively immature age. That would help to explain some of the naive statements you've made in reference to your knowledge of physics and automobile performance statistics and overall knowledge. ;)

I'm guessing the supposed Z28 you raced either was NOT racing, or was in fact a V6 model that was somewhat riced out. Understand something here. Yeah, your car ways 500 pounds or so less. But there comes a point where that doesn't really make a difference. From 1993 on up, the Z28 Camaro's shipped with a 280HP (at least, it kept going up until 1997, which I believe was 305HP in the end) LT1 V8, a direct variant of the Corvette engine. These engines also produced well over 300 ft/lbs of torque. LS1 V8's, which shipped in all 98+ F-body V8 variants (and were also more restricted variants of the Corvette LS1 engine), are closer to 350HP/350TQ stock. Auto tranny or 6-spd doesn't make a ton of difference with these engines either, in part because the GM auto trannies are great units that are well geared, and in part because there is SO much power available that it's a moot point.

The LT1 F-bodies are low 14 second cars stock, the LS1 cars are mid-low 13 second cars stock. You ran a best of 15.3 according to one post. That's a WORLD away from a stock 14 second car. Top speeds on the LT1 Camaro's was around 150MPH, and they got there a HECKUVA lot quicker than your car is capable of, no matter what you may think.

You've made several references to imports versus domestics, which also demonstrates a certain level of immaturity. You are forgiven. :) I agree with you, there are MANY imports out there that are VERY quick cars, your's isn't one of them right now, k? Looks darn nice though. And just so we save ourselves some time, my domestic four door grocery getter Contour isn't quick either. ;) But you won't catch me on here claiming high speed victories over cars with twice the WHP I have either...

[cjbaldw]

Originally posted by XteSy17
ok man you win but just let me say this....we are on a celica board you drive a mustang why in the world are you on this site

You'll find there are a TON of people on this site that don't drive Celicas. In fact, the OWNER of this site does NOT drive a Celica (anymore, long story :)). He drives a Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T. This site, like any other car forum, is populated by auto-enthusiasts. Forget the whole domestic versus import thing ok? We're all here to share stories and learn from one another, we forgive you for any transgressions on this thread, k? :) Do yourself a favor one day and go drive a V8 Camaro just to learn what everyone here is talking about. It'll be a fun experience and you'll learn something about the "enemy" as well. In the mean time, try to avoid posting stories about street racing and beating cars with at least twice the WHP of your current ride. ;)

[BpuTacoma]

hey fastwhipyo, maybe your friend can swap the 5.0 in, and drive around, then when emissions come around swap the v6 in. or find a shady emission shop. there should be alot around, i see many cars that don't pass emissions.