View Full Version : Come and see the ACTUAL PICTURE of the BLITZ Supercharger on the 2ZZ!!!!
Lomeinhu
01-15-2002, 08:03 PM
Here ya go!!
http://www2.tomato.ne.jp/~celiner/cgi-bin/celiphoto/img1/4.s.jpg
Can't say they didn't make it now!!!
coOOlcelica
01-15-2002, 08:17 PM
holy $hit..........pics are definately worth more than a million words!!!
DrewSilverGT
01-15-2002, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by coOOlcelica
holy $hit..........pics are definately worth more than a million words!!!
holy sh it is right. Id get it in a sec if it were for the gt
MikeM380
01-15-2002, 08:23 PM
I like everything except the corny "Blitz" logo in blue in the front. That is unless if I had a Spectra Blue Celica.
Where they using stock internals, or new forged sets? If so, what materials and manufacturers aided in the re-inforcements?
What PSI would that be running? Tops?
Mike
Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 08:33 PM
Looks ALOT different than the prototype pics from over a year ago. Exciting. Can't wait for more pics and details about it. Great job getting the pics, lomeinhu!
Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 08:45 PM
Can anyone read these Japanese specs for the Blitz SC:
http://www2.tomato.ne.jp/~celiner/cgi-bin/celiphoto/img1/6.s.jpg
http://www2.tomato.ne.jp/~celiner/cgi-bin/celiphoto/img1/5.s.jpg
Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 08:57 PM
Hmmm...I don't know if I'm totally off, but it looks like to me that it makes, according to the spec sheet about 255 hp at the crank. Not too bad.:)
ringthree
01-15-2002, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Keyshawn
Hmmm...I don't know if I'm totally off, but it looks like to me that it makes, according to the spec sheet about 255 hp at the crank. Not too bad.:)
As I read it it gets 261 but whatever this is freaking awesome.
Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by ringthree
As I read it it gets 261 but whatever this is freaking awesome.
Hehe...we REALLY need someone in here to translate all that info for us!
Anyway, last time I called Blitz USA (last week), they said they were gonna get it for testing with US Celicas in February, and told me to call back in March for details. Hopefully, this will FINALLY soon be a reality.
ringthree
01-15-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Keyshawn
Last time I called Blitz USA (last week), they said they were gonna get it for testing with US Celicas in February, and told me to call back in March for details. Hopefully, this will FINALLY soon be a reality.
Keyshawn, ummm, have I ever told you that I love you...
Now I'm questioning the whole N/A route.
I need more money DAMN IT!!! Will these companies please make up there mind and release something substantial so that I stop wasting my money on JDM parts with that evil man, David Draper ;)
gts24
01-15-2002, 09:09 PM
Group buy... right now?:D
QWKsilvr808
01-15-2002, 09:09 PM
oh man, that is a work of art. :)
gts24
01-15-2002, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by ringthree
Keyshawn, ummm, have I ever told you that I love you...
Now I'm questioning the whole N/A route.
I need more money DAMN IT!!! Will these companies please make up there mind and release something substantial so that I stop wasting my money on JDM parts with that evil man, David Draper ;)
Yeah, no joke, i hear ya on this !
BlackGT
01-15-2002, 09:19 PM
Definitely interesting. It would be cool to see on an actual car, not on a stand. Everything can fit on a stand. It looks perfect though, awesome design. The fitment issue doesnt seem to be a problem, but my question is...
Wont the turbine get in the way of the ecu tubing? or the shifter...if it does fit perfect, mad props to BLITZ and I cannot WAIT to race some S/C GT-S. Congrats guys!! Now start saving!!
-Tim
ZeroGTS
01-15-2002, 09:35 PM
I love it.
I think I might be reconsidering buying that veilside kit i was looking at for march (coincidence eh?)
hmm....
puts bank card away....
must resist spending now....
i must be SC ready
then i can get away from the cops :p <g>
MSR27
01-15-2002, 09:47 PM
It looks like they have the blower for the GT also. Look at the chart carefully.
cam_n_scott
01-15-2002, 10:00 PM
BlackGT is right about the ECU tube, its right in the way. However, I imagine you could fabricate one pretty easily... good to see this coming along though.
A supercharger would be significantly less $$ than a turbo, no?
Cameron
static
01-15-2002, 10:16 PM
Damn... there is hope for us after all.. Decisions Decisions...:D
RUSHIIII
01-15-2002, 10:29 PM
Hmm.. I could be blind here but it seems to me that they removed the A/C Compressor and moved the Alternator down. I dont know about you guys but I cant live without A/C especially in Texas.
Laters
Chris
Kit99bar
01-15-2002, 10:43 PM
anyone else notice the 261 torque at 4800 rpm??
Oh my gosh no more reving to 7600 rpms for power.
AWESOME!
Originally posted by Keyshawn
Can anyone read these Japanese specs for the Blitz SC:
http://www2.tomato.ne.jp/~celiner/cgi-bin/celiphoto/img1/6.s.jpg
http://www2.tomato.ne.jp/~celiner/cgi-bin/celiphoto/img1/5.s.jpg
X-EVIL-X
01-15-2002, 10:48 PM
that thing is crazy...:eek:
how much torque do you think it makes???
how much does it cost...
larry's probally drooling if he see's this
Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 10:51 PM
I don't think we can be sure of any of the numbers yet. Remember, the Japanese measure horsepower differently. Torque measurements will differ too, since Japan uses the metric system and wouldn't measure torque using lbs. and ft. like we do. Hopefully someone who knows Japanese or Japanese units of measure can come in and help us interpret the data.
Hey, maybe that millionaire guy, Jun with the TRD s/c'd GT can read it for us!j/k:)
Kit99bar
01-15-2002, 11:30 PM
anyways, max torque occurs at 4800 rpm
what more can you ask for?
Originally posted by Keyshawn
I don't think we can be sure of any of the numbers yet. Remember, the Japanese measure horsepower differently. Torque measurements will differ too, since Japan uses the metric system and wouldn't measure torque using lbs. and ft. like we do. Hopefully someone who knows Japanese or Japanese units of measure can come in and help us interpret the data.
Hey, maybe that millionaire guy, Jun with the TRD s/c'd GT can read it for us!j/k:)
Dyno Boy
01-15-2002, 11:36 PM
261 Nm (Newton-Meters) translates to approximately 185 Lb/ft. 270 Ps is approximately 265 Bhp. It says it's boosting .45 Kg/cm, which is 6.4 psi. Also, I couldn't help from noticing the pulley on the supercharger. It looks like the pulley used on the 4AGZE (Supercharged MR2), which has a magnetic clutch. This design helped with parasitic drag during idle and cruising conditions. In fact, looking at the mounting points of the supercharger, I believe this is actually the supercharger from the MR2 SC.
X-EVIL-X
01-15-2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Kit99bar
anyone else notice the 261 torque at 4800 rpm??
Oh my gosh no more reving to 7600 rpms for power.
AWESOME!
is the 261 horsepower???
and the 198 torque?
thats sound more right.
when's this supposed to come out?
Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Dyno Boy
261 Nm (Newton-Meters) translates to approximately 185 Lb/ft. 270 Ps is approximately 265 Bhp. From that torque rating, it would seem that the kit is boosting around 6 psi. Also, I couldn't help from noticing the pulley on the supercharger. It looks like the pulley used on the 4AGZE (Supercharged MR2), which has a magnetic clutch. This design helped with parasitic drag during idle and cruising conditions.
Would you also be able to convert kilograms per square centimeter into pounds per square inch. The chart seems to indicate that the s/c is boosting 0.45 kg/square cm. Thanks for the info!
Dyno Boy
01-15-2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Keyshawn
Would you also be able to convert kilograms per square centimeter into pounds per square inch. The chart seems to indicate that the s/c is boosting 0.45 kg/square cm. Thanks for the info!
yup, 0.45 Kg.cm calculates to exactly 6.4 psi.
Dyno Boy
01-15-2002, 11:50 PM
cc/rev of 1160 indicates the supercharger volume per revolution. 1.3 means that the supercharger spins 1.3 times the engine speed.
Keyshawn
01-15-2002, 11:52 PM
Cool! So, so far it's looking like this in U.S. measurements:
265 Hp @ 7,600 rpm
185 lb/ft of torque @ 4,800 rpm
6.4 psi of boost
Pretty good specs so far (Of course these numbers are for the Japanese-spec Celi's). With all the OBD-II emissions equipment on the US version, I wonder how much of this power we'll lose? Also, I wonder what all the other stuff says?
larryd
01-16-2002, 12:09 AM
impressive..
i didnt read the whole post but just so you guys know i test fitted a s/c for the Celica when I did the rebuld and you would have to remove/relocate the cruise control, and relocate the antifreeze tank.. no biggys..just an fyi..
Kaizer-Souze
01-16-2002, 01:38 AM
hey you guys i may be able to solve your problem I am at a boarding school and they have a very large esl program with lots of japanese students if someone can make the data sheet bigger for me I acould ask around to get a correct translation they are all japanese born and raised so it shouldnt be a problem I just need a laqrger image ok?
miklo2411
01-16-2002, 02:06 AM
yeah i can get this translated by tomorrow
Maelfyn
01-16-2002, 02:21 AM
I say get rid of the cruise control. I never use it. Move the battery and the fluid and there will be plenty of room. hehe. Maybe put your battery in the trunk :eek:
larryd
01-16-2002, 03:16 AM
ahh i thought of this too.. but you are proly also thinking relocate the ECU... this is hard to do.. i tried alot of different things. i had the smallest blower eaton makes sittin in my engine bay and it was still a tight fit.. i had to take out one of the radiator fans :)
celica gte racing
01-16-2002, 05:44 AM
hehehe I knew it all along :)
anyways, the blitz staff at the autosalon said the SC will be for sale end of january, latest beginning of febuary in japan.
we are looking at more than 4500dollars for the full kit.
boy that looks sweet.. wish had a TS :(
cam_n_scott
01-16-2002, 05:46 AM
so I get up this morning and go to look at this post, and see its moved. "Where could Larry have moved it?" Took me 5 minutes to realize there was a new forum LOL what a dumbass. This is a good idea though Larry...
Lomeinhu
01-16-2002, 09:19 AM
Thanks Keyshawn. Hey, with all the stuff that you do for us Celi owners, this is the least I can do. I don't know much technical stuff, nor do I even have a 6 speed, but DAMMIT I can find pictures!!! :D
celica gte racing
01-16-2002, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by lomeinhu
Thanks Keyshawn. Hey, with all the stuff that you do for us Celi owners, this is the least I can do. I don't know much technical stuff, nor do I even have a 6 speed, but DAMMIT I can find pictures!!! :D
http://www2.tomato.ne.jp/~celiner/cgi-bin/celiphoto/minibbs.cgi?log=log1
u just got lucky...:D
valkyrie
01-16-2002, 11:46 AM
any for GT
:(
aaarrgh !!!!!
Arghman
01-16-2002, 11:58 AM
the hell@! im friggin crapping in my pants. But $4500@!@? Couldn't you get a lot more power from a customass turbo kit for that much?
Bobbeh
01-16-2002, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by valkyrie
any for GT
:(
aaarrgh !!!!!
According to a UK TRD sites the GTS/VVTL-i gets the Blitz SC (seen in pics) and the GT\VVTi gets a Blitz Turbo system. I just wanna see some turbo pics now, those SC stats look impressive. TTE already have a Turbo VVTi car for show.. hopefully theres a lot more in the pipeline for the Celica owner! :)
Also.. that much power through front wheel drive is gonna be a nightmare, all the extra torque streer and wheel spin will make it challenging to control. I bet there'll be probs getting the power down. :eek:
Coolwheels00
01-16-2002, 03:52 PM
Sweet, I wish i had a pic of that in my car!! Think about it guys. With the Celi losing such little hp through the drivetrain (about 13%), this things going to have about 230 hp to the tires!!! Also at 6.5 psi, I'm assuming that they stuck with stock pistons. So think about the future upgrades for this system. Get a set of low compression pistons and whatever else, turn the psi up in the teens and your looking at 300 hp to the tires!! Sounds pretty damn good to me. Of course your going to have do clutch and tranny upgrades and also LSD will definately be needed. For the ultimate set-up, this could easily get into the 6-7k range
God, my palms are sweating just thinking about it! Awesome!!
Keyshawn
01-16-2002, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Arghman
the hell@! im friggin crapping in my pants. But $4500@!@? Couldn't you get a lot more power from a customass turbo kit for that much?
Yes, you'd probably get more power from a custom turbo kit for that price. However, think about this. Going custom means YOU are the guinea pig. If you make a mistake with tuning, its your own engine that'll blow up. I'd personally rather go with a trusted name in Japanese automobile tuning (Blitz), who has spent over a year and a half testing and developing this ( and might I add, blew a few engines themselves, according to Blitz USA reps) than to take a chance with a custom set-up. But that's just my opinion.
fastwhipyo
01-16-2002, 06:57 PM
Only way to get more boost out of a supercharger is to get new gears right? to make it spin even quicker producing more boost right? If that is the case someone should try and come up with a way to switch between two gears electronically so you can have 2 preset boost levels at the touch of a button...like blitz boost controller which has 2 preset boosts and changes with the push of a button (turbos). Anyone think this is possible? cause if somewhere down the road I get new internals and raise the boost to say 11 or 12, That would mean that i would ALWAYS have to have it that high which puts unneeded stress on the engine. Im more into turbo's myself, but this seems to be one of our only real options we will see any time soon, that and power gains are pretty sweet. (no turbo lag...YIPPPY)
shyvpboi
01-17-2002, 03:27 PM
Here's the conversion from the pic:
STOCK - Japanese spec
140 kw [190 hp] /7600
180 joules [18.4 kg force-meter] or 132.7 ft-libs /6800
BLITZ SUPERCHARGER -
198 kw [270 hp] /7600
261 joules [26.6 kg force-meter] or 192.5 ft-libs /4800
Keyshawn
01-17-2002, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Dyno Boy
261 Nm (Newton-Meters) translates to approximately 185 Lb/ft. 270 Ps is approximately 265 Bhp. It says it's boosting .45 Kg/cm, which is 6.4 psi. Also, I couldn't help from noticing the pulley on the supercharger. It looks like the pulley used on the 4AGZE (Supercharged MR2), which has a magnetic clutch. This design helped with parasitic drag during idle and cruising conditions. In fact, looking at the mounting points of the supercharger, I believe this is actually the supercharger from the MR2 SC.
I think Dyno Boy's numbers are pretty accurate, since the Japanese power measure (PS) doesn't have an exact 1:1 correlation with the US measure of engine power (HP).:)
oRiOn_Gt-S
01-19-2002, 04:20 AM
hey guys i just posted a questions about the blitz supercharger on the MODs section then i found this section.. LOL =D THX for the info!!!
shyvpboi
01-19-2002, 04:40 AM
did anyone notice the new intake manifold on the 2zz engine? must of came with the supercharger...
Lilsupra
01-19-2002, 06:05 AM
Anyone notice the Intercooler..oh man does this mean blow off valve with SuperDuperCharger!!!!
Keyshawn
01-19-2002, 09:19 AM
Yeah, they replaced the intake manifold for space-saving reasons. The original Blitz S/C prototype bolted on to the stock manifold, but it took up a LOT of room in the engine bay. Can someone post up pics of the original Blitz s/c for comparison?
Originally posted by shyvpboi
did anyone notice the new intake manifold on the 2zz engine? must of came with the supercharger...
The Wok
01-19-2002, 10:13 AM
Here ya go, the original Blitz SC:
http://celica.net/Gallery/7th_generation_Celica's/Engine/BlitzSupercharger.jpg
Keyshawn
01-19-2002, 10:32 AM
Thanks, man! Everybody, check out the differences between the two. (By the way, specs for the original s/c are:2ZZ engine: 240ps/7,850rpm, 32Kgm/6,280rpm. The new version boasts far better specs).
http://www2.tomato.ne.jp/~celiner/cgi-bin/celiphoto/img1/4.s.jpg
http://www2.tomato.ne.jp/~celiner/cgi-bin/celiphoto/img1/5.s.jpg
The Wok
01-19-2002, 03:20 PM
TTT more pics of the old Blitz S/C courtesy of Keyshawn and the hosting capabilities of the University of Washington :D
http://students.washington.edu/matteng/origin2.jpg
http://students.washington.edu/matteng/origin3.jpg
http://students.washington.edu/matteng/origin4.gif
http://students.washington.edu/matteng/origin5.jpg
TheX-Man
01-19-2002, 04:46 PM
ok here goes... i typed this a few days ago but it something was wrong and didnt let me post it, i saved it b/c i'd probably forget what i would say
Isn't the blitz suppose to be a centrafugal type of s/c? because from the specs of the power it doesn't seem like it is. I mean take for example the vortec si, and comptec s2000 looking at their dynoes they don't reach peak hp and torque until like 100 rpm away from their redline. I don't know if blitz changed their s/c, but I hope they did. A centrafugal s/c is bassically a belt driven turbo, so yes you will still have lag, i mean the si didn't start to take off in hp until it hit vtec, and compared to the jackson (roots style) s/c it didn't start making more power then it until around 6k. I mean the celica suffers from low-end power the most, so roots style would be best for the celica but i guess no-one is willing to make it. So what I'm saying is are those specs correct because a centrafugal type of s/c wouldn't have peak torque at 4800.
BTW the vortec si with 251 (or is it 261) whp runs 14.0, unless you can find someone with better times, maybe i'll go to club si and look around, but i really don't wana go there.
larryd
01-19-2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by shyvpboi
did anyone notice the new intake manifold on the 2zz engine? must of came with the supercharger...
ahh damn, so that wold explain how they got it to fit.. a new manifold :)
Keyshawn
01-19-2002, 10:10 PM
To the best of my knowledge, the Blitz s/c has always been a roots type s/c, and not a centrifugal.
Originally posted by TheX-Man
ok here goes... i typed this a few days ago but it something was wrong and didnt let me post it, i saved it b/c i'd probably forget what i would say
Isn't the blitz suppose to be a centrafugal type of s/c? because from the specs of the power it doesn't seem like it is. I mean take for example the vortec si, and comptec s2000 looking at their dynoes they don't reach peak hp and torque until like 100 rpm away from their redline. I don't know if blitz changed their s/c, but I hope they did. A centrafugal s/c is bassically a belt driven turbo, so yes you will still have lag, i mean the si didn't start to take off in hp until it hit vtec, and compared to the jackson (roots style) s/c it didn't start making more power then it until around 6k. I mean the celica suffers from low-end power the most, so roots style would be best for the celica but i guess no-one is willing to make it. So what I'm saying is are those specs correct because a centrafugal type of s/c wouldn't have peak torque at 4800.
BTW the vortec si with 251 (or is it 261) whp runs 14.0, unless you can find someone with better times, maybe i'll go to club si and look around, but i really don't wana go there.
celica gte racing
01-21-2002, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Bobbeh
According to a UK TRD sites the GTS/VVTL-i gets the Blitz SC (seen in pics) and the GT\VVTi gets a Blitz Turbo system. I just wanna see some turbo pics now, those SC stats look impressive. TTE already have a Turbo VVTi car for show.. hopefully theres a lot more in the pipeline for the Celica owner! :)
Also.. that much power through front wheel drive is gonna be a nightmare, all the extra torque streer and wheel spin will make it challenging to control. I bet there'll be probs getting the power down. :eek:
if TTE does something it'll be sweet, our warrenty won't be void... wouldn't mind a blitz turbo either!!!
sammythebull
01-21-2002, 12:30 PM
help me out guys...i don't know what those words mean at all... centrifual and roots type...somebody please explain this for me and others!! thanx Sammy
NoCeliYet
01-21-2002, 05:19 PM
WOW, does anybody know if this will fit on an Auto GT-S??? Man I hope it'll work, this could be gods gift to auto's with all that torque, and more power down low where we need it.
swift 21
01-21-2002, 07:13 PM
when will it be made available in the US is it available in japan?
oh one last question what would be a best investment the blitz supercharger or the xs turbo??????????????????????????
larryd
01-21-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by sammythebull
help me out guys...i don't know what those words mean at all... centrifual and roots type...somebody please explain this for me and others!! thanx Sammy
there two different type of s/c's.. do a search on yahoo or something..im sure it will explain :)
SilverBullet GTS
01-22-2002, 11:20 AM
Hell yea, this is great news. Im in the process of trying to sell my auto gt-s for a 6-speed. Now im really looking forward to getting my hands on the manual. Im gonna be one supercharged mofo! :silly:
veilside02celi
01-22-2002, 04:08 PM
swwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttt!
i think that about sums it up! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
M SPEC
01-22-2002, 09:38 PM
I talked to the Australian Blitz distrubuutor a couple of days ago about the S/C kit. He actually went to the Toyko Auto Salon. I'm waiting on final specs of the kit like anyone else. I was told it will be on the market at the end of February.
I'm in two minds atm, either be one fo the first to get it OR wait and see ppl's comments when it hits the streets and put in a LSD and stronger clutch while waiting for feedback and reviews of the kit.
One of my other firends has just came back from Japan with brochures from the Tokyo Auto Salon & the Osaka Atuo Messe of the Celica. Hopefully I might be able to get them scanned and post them up for you guys.
Jason
bLaH1031
01-24-2002, 08:53 PM
so this only is for the 6 speed??.. will there be one for the auto??
My2ktoy
02-07-2002, 05:00 PM
here's a pic of it in the car
ringthree
02-08-2002, 06:21 AM
Actually thats a pic of the old one not the new design.
larryd
02-11-2002, 11:59 PM
Ill tell u what.. if I still owned a Celica this picture wuold make me cream my pants..its only a matter of time now :)
<img src="http://www.blitz-na.com/Image/supercharger.jpg">
vatik
02-12-2002, 02:30 AM
larrdy you did cream your pants and now its all over the top of my message box,.... you sick sick man, come clean this **** up
TheFranchiseGT
02-12-2002, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by fastwhipyo
Only way to get more boost out of a supercharger is to get new gears right? to make it spin even quicker producing more boost right? If that is the case someone should try and come up with a way to switch between two gears electronically so you can have 2 preset boost levels at the touch of a button...like blitz boost controller which has 2 preset boosts and changes with the push of a button (turbos). Anyone think this is possible? cause if somewhere down the road I get new internals and raise the boost to say 11 or 12, That would mean that i would ALWAYS have to have it that high which puts unneeded stress on the engine. Im more into turbo's myself, but this seems to be one of our only real options we will see any time soon, that and power gains are pretty sweet. (no turbo lag...YIPPPY)
to up the boost on the SC like that one u need to change the pulley size. of course the SC is rated to only so much boost.
to my knowledge u cant control the boost levels on SC. on turbos the wastegate allows you to alter variable boost settings (manually or electronically)
also is usually callen an aftercooler for SCs (intercooler on turbo) they do they same thing though so who cares ;)
My2ktoy
02-12-2002, 09:31 AM
remember that a supercharger, at least the eatons, have a wastegate as well. it's purpose is different though. unlike the wastegate on a turbo, which vents between shifts, the wastegate on a supercharger equalizes pressure during constant or low vacuum pressure. aka you only get your boost when you're accelerating. when you're traveling at a constant velocity, the wastegate bleeds off the boost. so you could have it at 11 or 12 psi, and it would only boost when you're accelerating. thats why they claim a loss of only around 1 mpg with the addition of a supercharger. so in reality, as long as you're not accelerating that hard, or moving at a constant velocity, you won't be putting that much stress on the engine. of course, once you floor it, it's a whole different story. :)
RUSHIIII
02-12-2002, 12:22 PM
I would go with the Blitz kit but from the looks of it the A/C was removed completely. Cant go with out A/C in Texas..
Laters
Chris
2000 XYR
02-12-2002, 07:07 PM
My2ktoy said:
remember that a supercharger, at least the eatons, have a wastegate as well I'm not up on my lingo, but I believe my '88 MR2 SC has some sort of blow-off valve. The whole system actually disengaged (as someone else mentioned earlier) when not in use. Then as you pressed the gas, it engaged and started working. :) Anyway, if the boost exceeded the stock amount (can't remember the psi) is leaked off some of the pressure. I never heard a sound like a BOV (love that sound by the way) but it showed that it had one.
of course, once you floor it, it's a whole different story Ain't that the truth! ;) Mine's an Eaton 120. It's supposed to be 8psi stock, but according to my gauge it's 10psi. There are all kinds of pulleys I can install to increase that, including a quick-change kit that makes it a 10 minute job. When I am just barely pushing the gas the gauge shows "vac" for vacuum I suppose. Sounds like what was said above where it is not really working thus not really harming my MPG (the measily 14 that it is).
I have always been a big fan of supercharging versus turbocharging. Of course I have owned 2 SC cars and 0 turbos, but it just seems to me that while they don't give as much top-end power, then give a lot more than turbos down low in the revs. That's where you guys need the torque. And while it is actally belt driven, it seems like there is a lot less mainenance and less worry than with turbos. (I'm sure Larry will disagree with that -- seems like he's a turbo fan).
One more side note: The '88 -'89 MR2 SC had a turbo kit also available. How cool is that? Supercharged and Turbocharged = Twincharged. There were a few Twincharged MR2's out there -- probably still are. I'm guessing that that Supercharger helped down low, then probably disengaged at mid-RPM (since the ECU was able to disengage the supercharger). That's where the turbo would be spooling up and taking over. That makes it a rocket. I wonder if I can get a turbo kit for my truck. :naughty: :naughty:
larryd
02-12-2002, 10:06 PM
no i agree.. turbo cars are high maintenance.. thats a well known fact :)
soceur
02-12-2002, 10:38 PM
will the ac be non-op with this supercharger? damn i hope not. if so i'll be a hot mofo :)
swift 21
02-16-2002, 05:17 PM
hey what do guys think
Tony01Gts
02-16-2002, 05:54 PM
For some reason that picture looks photochopped to me... maybe its cause I don't have my contacts in???
swift 21
02-16-2002, 06:08 PM
it is photochopped thats. just so we would have another pic to look at
bboyfranky
02-18-2002, 12:37 PM
The Manifold in the pic has much shorter runners (better/faster flow), so not only would it save space, but it will help performance. It may be a good N/A power adder as well. (Hint to Blitz). As far as throwing a smaller pully on to boost psi, keep in mind that this type of blower is limited, and may just run out of boost at a certain point.
Tony01Gts
02-18-2002, 01:19 PM
So I guess if I get this my AEM CAI will be useless? Not saying it won't be worth it but just wondering.
digitalSamurai
02-23-2002, 06:58 PM
does anybody have the diagram of the 2ZZ-GE and 1ZZ-FE pulley system? I'm wondering if it is possible to run the SC off the 1ZZ-FE in case the turbo kit costs too much when they release it.. (plus i don't like having that much lag if i'm gonna use forced induction autox-ing)
Since the 1ZZ-FE has lower compression over the 2ZZ-GE, I really don't see it as a problem to run the SC on the GT.
larryd
02-23-2002, 09:32 PM
its not the pulleys that wold keep u from using it.. its the fact that it uses a new intake manifold which Im not sure if that would bolt up to the GT
Keyshawn
02-24-2002, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by larryd
its not the pulleys that wold keep u from using it.. its the fact that it uses a new intake manifold which Im not sure if that would bolt up to the GT
Also, the s/c kit includes a tuned ECU that is designed for the 2zz(GT-S) engine, not the 1zz (GT).
larryd
02-24-2002, 06:04 PM
ahh. i forgot about that part..
digitalSamurai
02-26-2002, 05:33 PM
damn.. oh well..
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