thinking of buying a celica

[twisted-gt]

I have a 01 ford focus which i love. When i bought it I made the mistake of buying an auto. I didn't research and I didn't know autos really sucked compared to manuals.

Now I'm looking around for a Celica and don't want to make any mistakes.

What would be the best buy, a 03 GT or a used GT-S

Is the GT-S really worth the extra money or the GT can match the GTS with bolton's.

I don't want to regret my buy a few months later. Please give me some advices on what's the best bang for the buck.

thanks!

[jotan82]

before buying the car:

A. do your research, i suggest taking your time to read the newbie forum to answer questions asked before by people in the same situation as you!

B. Make sure you test drive! go drive the GT and a GT-S, it maybe 40hp difference on paper, but there is no feeling like VVTL-i... lift is awesome!

welcome to the boards :wave:

check the for sale forums to! lots of used cars for sale, you'll be sure to walk away with a deal!

FYI... if you are in the market for a GT-S, get the 6-speed, you will be highly disappointed if you settle for the "sportshift" crap... a 5-speed GT will run 15's all day, while the 'SS' GT-S can hardly break 16's ... these figures talkin about stock set-up

[Predator]

i would say take the used GT-S over the new GT, as long as you can be sure of the car's history (no accidents or any $hit like that),

but you have to realise that once you buy used, you are taking an inherent risk. If you're getting it from a used car dealer, make sure its certified.

and for gods sake, make sure its 6 speed MANUAL.

[2001REDCELICAGTS]

Why are some people insistent on telling the guy what he already knows? His statements make it clear that he thinks it was a mistake to buy an auto tranny car but some people still feel the need to tell him not to buy an auto. Why? It is already clear he is going to get a manual. His only question was GT or GTS?

[twisted-gt]

thanks for the comments!. I will defenetly not make the same mistake. I wil buy a manual. Like 2001REDCELICAGTS said I Just gotta decide on a new GT or used GTS. :)

are the aftermarket parts the same for the GT and GTS?

[WCToyotasport]

Well as with any car, homework and waiting for just the right used one is always helpful- Personally i would go for a used GTS and use the left over cash for modifications- another plus of a used car is the chance that there may be some bolton parts still on it. :)

TimP

West Covina Toyota
1800 E. Garvey Ave. South.
West Covina , CA 91791
tel. 626-859-7400
fax 626-859-7410

[PhatCellyGT]

As far as parts being the same for the GT and GT-S...The suspension set-ups are the same but that's about it...Anything as far as the engine mods go, they are quite different

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by 2001REDCELICAGTS
Why are some people insistent on telling the guy what he already knows? His statements make it clear that he thinks it was a mistake to buy an auto tranny car but some people still feel the need to tell him not to buy an auto. Why? It is already clear he is going to get a manual. His only question was GT or GTS?

Because some people see a car on sale and will buy it knowing good and well that not every thing they want is on the car which they end up regreting later. Nothing like some one trying to help keep you focused. Now why must some people insist on be azzholes???

[Predator]

Originally posted by 2001REDCELICAGTS
Why are some people insistent on telling the guy what he already knows? His statements make it clear that he thinks it was a mistake to buy an auto tranny car but some people still feel the need to tell him not to buy an auto. Why?

maybe because some of us feel its important enough to be worth mentioning over and over again.

why ask stupid questions?

[twisted-gt]

which has more aftermarket parts, the GT or GTS? including trubo kits. Or is it about the same?

[PhatCellyGT]

GT is MUCH more suited for Forced Induction of any kind...The compression Ratio on the GT-S doesn't make it really safe

[F35-JSF]

There are a few on the site who have custom turbo kits for the gts but like every thing else that good and fun its expensive.

[2001REDCELICAGTS]

Originally posted by Predator


maybe because some of us feel its important enough to be worth mentioning over and over again.

why ask stupid questions?

No stupid is ignoring what someone says and giving them info they clearly do not need. What part of "When i bought it I made the mistake of buying an auto" didn't YOU personally understand?

[F22-Raptor]

Originally posted by F35-JSF


Because some people see a car on sale and will buy it knowing good and well that not every thing they want is on the car which they end up regreting later. Nothing like some one trying to help keep you focused. Now why must some people insist on be azzholes???

Nothing like refusing to learn some stuff eh...You know what I am talking about..Mr 120k and having to purchase a new engine etc...

[swift7g]

hey twisted-gt I made the same mistake too. And now I'm looking for a celica. Never get an auto never.

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by F22-Raptor


Nothing like refusing to learn some stuff eh...You know what I am talking about..Mr 120k and having to purchase a new engine etc...

You buy a used car and you take risks..... Its life I can deal with, its what I wanted and bought it. All cars have problems no just american ones and being used its a chance you take. The 96 celica they had at the dealer was blowing blue smoke...... I guess it would instantly be a better buy just because its made by Toyota? should I consider all Toyotas crap when its engine went bad?

[Willis5050]

How much do you want to modify the car? Just some bolt on's? Forced induction? Suspension? Etc..

The amount of extras you get with a gt-s make it much more worthwhile IMO, especially used. Of course, the usual used car disclaimers apply.

[Predator]

Originally posted by 2001REDCELICAGTS
No stupid is ignoring what someone says and giving them info they clearly do not need. What part of "When i bought it I made the mistake of buying an auto" didn't YOU personally understand?

Everybody makes mistakes, but not everybody learns from their mistakes. I'm just making sure he doesnt make the same mistake twice.

Are you following me now? or are you still lost?

Why dont you go take a walk or something, you sound like your heads about to explode :chuckles:

[F22-Raptor]

Originally posted by F35-JSF


You buy a used car and you take risks..... Its life I can deal with, its what I wanted and bought it. All cars have problems no just american ones and being used its a chance you take. The 96 celica they had at the dealer was blowing blue smoke...... I guess it would instantly be a better buy just because its made by Toyota? should I consider all Toyotas crap when its engine went bad?

You missed my point..I didn't say that all cars etc...don't have probs. The point I was making was that when you start with a car that is known to have less than stellar build quality you are going to have to spend money to the exten that you should have spent a little more in the beginning and bought a better car..

[GT-Skid]

GT-S all the way. You won't regret it!!!!!!!!

[F22-Raptor]

If you love the Focus tho why change it??? Just to get something faster??

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by F22-Raptor


You missed my point..I didn't say that all cars etc...don't have probs. The point I was making was that when you start with a car that is known to have less than stellar build quality you are going to have to spend money to the exten that you should have spent a little more in the beginning and bought a better car..

Yeah but the build quality had nothing to do with the failure and its easier (cheaper to buy) parts for it then it is a toyota.....
and the 1300 I put into the car wouldn't have netted me a better(new) car.

By your arguments you think you actually spent real time with a american car..... If I used history & stellar build quality as points against cars I would be condeming you for buying that subaru. I told you about the problems my madre (rust, engine, transmission, radiator & electrical) had with hers and her husband was a mechanic. By your car's stellar build quality (which has been in the shop several time for odd things) and the history of subaru as I know it (which is from actual experience of knowing and not from CR or some average rating website) I'd say your subaru could/is/ will be be just as much junk as you say my car is.

[F22-Raptor]

I hardly think you could fault build quality for getting hit in the rear end.. The throwout bearing is negotiable but we'll give you that one. There are always small hiccups. However in general the Subaru has been fine. The Celica has been near perfect. No rattles etc or problems. You have no idea how many times the first owner of your car had to take it back or for what. When you look at CR or any other magazine Japanese cars are some of the least defects per car of anyones including German and European construction. I have rarely seen a Toyota or Honda on the side of the road without seeing the driver with a gas can on the way to a gas station. I see people in American cars on the side of the road more than you know. And usually parked for days and no ones coming back. In general the american cars I have rented (quite a few) have been less than stellar as well. Take for instance the new Malibu. Meant to compete with the Camry and Accord. The one I rented had 500 miles on it and already the seats would move back in their track when I would accelerate and forward when I would brake. It had no power for a V6 and it generally felt like a refrigerator box around me. Rented a Deville with a v8. Had less power (get up and go) then my avalon for almost half the price and the construction of the leather seats in my Avalon were 10x better. I could go on but you see where I am going with this. I have not just blindly and foolishly said "american cars in general are crap" I have put my research into it. Have I tested every car out there?? No but then Most of the cars I have tested are in the price range I would be normally buying in (except for the caddy).

[F35-JSF]

Yeah except for the alarm that you had to rip out........... Besides that the car has been siting. the only danger of part failure its in now is rusting away.

[F22-Raptor]

It has not been sitting my dad is driving it and the alarm was never ripped out the ecu was replaced due to overheating. And it was hardly Toyotas fault since they don't build alarms :rolleyes: Lets stick with mechanical things like you havnig to replace the whole engine....

[F35-JSF]

its a used car, I have no idea how its been treated before 2001 and it was 10 then and I hardly think your car going to have problems siting being driven once in a blue moon by your dad. You'll prove some thing when your cars goes 200k-300k miles with out major problems but I doubt you'll have one that long.

[F22-Raptor]

:rolleyes:

[F35-JSF]

:rolleyes:

[Willis5050]

WTF are you two even arguing about?

[F22-Raptor]

Umm we forgot. Seriously back on topic..I think you may end up owing more than you should if you try to get rid of your focus. Did they already give you a number for your buyout and the dealer tell you how much they would give you? I think you may end up upside down on your lown which is not very nice for a new car.

[THE REALEST]

dont get acelica get something else

[csulbkid]

I just got my 01' celica GT (manual) like a week ago and I LOVE it. Handles like it's on rails (gotten a lot of comments about this), awesome brakes, and everyone is impressed by the interior and says it looks "cool." And yea . . . the lower compression of the GT makes it a bit more suited for FI then the GT-S. So if you plan on real power (turbo/s.c.), go with the GT and save up some $$$. However if you plan on doing intake/headers/exhaust and then making it look even cooler . . . find a good GT-S, get it inspected, and run a carfax report on it.

[CEGONAX-MAN]

Wait for the new CELICA GT4.

[ghet2_gts]

:no:

[Red Falcon]

Wait for the new CELICA GT4.
http://www.crazyengineer.net/uploads/pictures/articles/yardgoose/dumbass.jpg
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[MastaBman]

If i had the choice I would gladly switch my GT over for the gt-s, I dont have a lot of money for mods, and the extra 40 Hp and Lift would be pretty sweet.

[Gibzki]

Anybody realize that this is a 5 year old thread?

[KOSTASNS]

Anybody realize that this is a 5 year old thread?

5 yrs thread???

ok

i have a GT

BUY a GTS and stay NA its a great car and engine

[evil eye]

Wait for the new CELICA GT4.


5 year old thread you asshat.

[swyn]

Wait for the new CELICA GT4.


5 year old thread you asshat.


lmfao :rofl:

[CEGONAX-MAN]

5 year old thread you asshat.

No shyitz sherlock! wholly fuock!

[enthennd]

Wait for the new CELICA GT4.
No such thing. ;)

[CEGONAX-MAN]

No such thing. ;)

If you say so.

[TrD CeLiCa]

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH AHA EVIL SAYS 5 year old thread and hes RIGHT !!!!!! LMAO!!!! God

[blacken]

holy necro bump to the extreeem batman