Who here think all these posts about Greddy is annoying?

[Dealer Xing]

I do.


Accept the facts, guys.

[WillyK]

I agree. It is just the same thing over and over again.

[Kinezo]

I agree...I understand that people want to vent b/c Greedy... - well, i don't wanna get into it :D

[CelicARaceR]

i agree.

agreed..its not gonna change anything.. just redundant..

[Kry]

agree:cool: i got sick of them

[Archon_Ninja]

me too. if they're not going to do it, they're not going to do it. the more mail we send them, the more it seems as if they're hatin us. we'll get somethin soon.

[MarkyMark]

f*ck greddy...if people want turbo kits, why not just get a CUSTOM one at a local shop??? I honestly dont understand it...and I'm sure you can get a warranty from them.

[LaW]

I for one would like to see some more turbo's available but I know i couldn't possibly afford one...also greddy isn't the **** so who cares about greddy...I say enough...

[Mjolnir]

Yup, B O R I N G.

If I were Greddy, I would be saying F these guys b/c they are driving us NUCKING FUTS!

The simple fact is that if it were ECONOMICALLY reasonable for Greddy to be working on a Trubo(tm) for the Celica, then they would be doing so. The fact that they are not means that it is not a good business proposition for them at this time. It's all about MONEY! These guys have been in business for a long time, so I am sure they have a good idea about what is practical for them to make money off of and what is not. Whining is not going to change that one iota!

If you are desperate for a Trubo(tm) right NOW, then you have options. there are currently Trubo's(tm) available for the celica for around 6K installed. put your money where your mouth is and go get one.

[Keyshawn]

As adamant as I am about trying to improve our aftermarket, I totally agree with you guys. GReddy has no interest in us. It's time to turn the page. I'd rather support companies that are interested in making parts for us.

[DaksGT]

Originally posted by MarkyMark
f*ck greddy...if people want turbo kits, why not just get a CUSTOM one at a local shop??? I honestly dont understand it...and I'm sure you can get a warranty from them.

Exactly

[Keyshawn]

Actually, there are some pretty good advantages of a ready made turbo kit over custom jobs:

1. You are NOT a guinea pig. The kit has been already tested on other cars for performance and RELIABILITY.

2. Less down time. You're car is NOT out of comission for weeks and weeks while they custom fabricate the exhaust manifold and other turbo components to fit your ride.

3. With the major companies, a turbo kit would probably be CARB/smog legal. No need to try to find some shady-ass shop to pay under the table when you have to get your car smogged.

4. Warranty. Unfortunately, I don't know of any shops (at least here in So Cal) that would warranty a one-off custom prototype turbo kit. If someone DOES know of such a shop, please let me know. That would be awesome.

That's why I looked into GReddy initially. It's clear though, that it's time to find other companies to support and communicate with.

[Unity112]

I completely agree Dealer Xing. The Greddy posts have gotten ridiculous. Greddy really isn't that great anyways. They're header = mediocre. Exhuast, sounds okay, but gains are minimal. The price of the Turbo kit (which is pretty good quality but minimal gains for the price) I would just custom what I want, get more gains, and deal with not having my car for the few weeks or get close with the mechanics and give me a loaner.

Keyshawn, what kind of warranty can you get on a turbo kit?

[RexPokinghorn]

Unity, I disagree - The reason that GReddy is so big is because they make quality products. However, the fact that GReddy won't go out on a limb to make a working turbo or s/c for our cars is indeed depressing and so are the posts.

GReddy is a superb company, but they've let me down without any mention of even THINKING about fabricating a turbo kit for the GT/GTS. They could buy a used Celica for $15k or less, but they money they would make from turbo kits would more than make up for it. But who knows what they're thinking. Certainly no one on these boards, so best to keep quiet and accept things as how they are (don't stop trying to pursuade companies to build or aftermarket of course) and stop harrassing companies. Harrassment doesn't show character - constant questioning and/or reminding that we'd like certain products would probably go a lot farther than "Why the **** aren't you goddamn ****ers not making a ****ing turbo for our ****ing cars?"

GReddy obviously went the route that will make more money (in their eyes) and built an RSX turbo. I'm not sure if their resources would have allowed them to fabricate a turbo for the RSX and GT/GTS at the same time, but I'm assuming not. Since GReddy isn't making a turbo, I agree with others - it's time to turn to another proven company who is willing to put their resources into us. After all, they're the ones who'll be making money!

If XS gets their act together and decides to do engine work and find a way to work with VVTL-i so that we can run higher boost, they may be the company to go with. If they decide to cut down on the price tag too, that is. Who knows, maybe a good shop will produce a well-tuned and working setup? I myself would love to see a TS04 w/ HKS Type-S FMIC setup. Or maybe even a bigger turbo.

Just my speculations. But people who expect warranties, be ready to feel let down. A turbo is a tricky thing. People can blow the turbo when downshifting the improper way. People who don't know how to properly use an EBC will blow their engines when they check to see if their car can handle 25psi.

Personally, I'm going to wait. I was considering dropping in the 3SGTE - even fabricating my own turbo kit through a true and tried autoshop. But at this moment, I'm going to N/A tune. Then, when we figure out how to work with Lift... among numerous other problems, I may go the turbo route.

I'm starting to go on a tangent, that's all I have to say.

[Diesel949X]

Face it, GReddy is a business...and the only thing a business cares about is profit. They could give a crap what you drive. The only reason why they made kits for the RSX is because they KNOW the RSX will sell (to the Honda and ricer-wannabe crowds) and that they will make a...say it with me...PROFIT out of these kits.

They will go the route that brings them the $$$. And if it means sticking only with the Honda crowd, so be it.

[Unity112]

Andy, I like the quality of their turbo systems (the upgrades for cars that come with a turbo), but when it comes to power and products that perform, you can get more bang for your buck with other companies or putting a kit together yourself. Dynos show and its just my opinion too, (although a little tainted with frustration). They're products do a decent job with quality, reliability, and longevity, but the power just isnt there.

If I could find some dynos, I'd prove my point.

I still think TRD's kit will be great though. :)

[RexPokinghorn]

I agree on that point :) But seriously, other than forced induction, what else truly matters? For our cars, it really doesn't matter what sort of intake or exhaust we get. It's a 2-4 HP margin. Maybe more, maybe less, depending on the product. Later on, when more HP = the need of a less restricted airflow, then it may start to matters, but right now, for our cars... not really.

I'll can't wait to see what sort of kit TRD has fabricated either - I have a feeling I won't be dissapointed... I better not be :)

[Keyshawn]

Unity112,
I know no one will warranty a blown motor, but some reputable companies will guarantee the reliability of the components of their kits. I know right off the top of my head that Vortech gives a warranty (I don't know how long, though) for their Supercharger Kits.

[ringthree]

Who's getting tired of Dealer Xing's criticisms? If you dont like a post then you dont have to read it. People come here to learn about their cars and to express there feelings. I think that people should be encouraged to vent their frustrations, we can still learn new things this way.

[Keyshawn]

ringthree,
Like you, I don't agree with a lot of the stuff Dealer Xing says (especially that "Why do people have to mod their cars" stuff. ) I mean, for a guy that supposedly doesn't like to hear about complaining, he does an awful lot of it. However, it's cool. That's why I like messageboards: Different opinions and the discussions that start from these topics. As long as everyone respects each other's opinions and doesn't resort to childish NAME CALLING/PROFANITY, I don't mind peeps like Dealer disagreeing with peeps like us. You do have a GREAT point, though. If someone doesn't like a thread or topic, they DON'T have to read it and they DON'T have to reply to it.

[ringthree]

Keyshawn, I think we see eye to eye on this. I already stated that in Dealers other post, that people do what they want because they want to. I just thought it was funny that someone would post about how they dont like other people posting about things, just seemed silly to me. Oh well, to each there own.

[iNteGraz92]

Originally posted by Diesel949X
The only reason why they made kits for the RSX is because they KNOW the RSX will sell (to the Honda and ricer-wannabe crowds) and that they will make a...say it with me...PROFIT out of these kits.


:rolleyes:

[Diesel949X]

Originally posted by iNteGraz92


:rolleyes:

Thanks for pointing out that small detail. I guess you assumed I was either full of it or I made up that generalization in my head. Since I didn't seem to make myself clear enough, let me elaborate on the "ricer-wannabe" reference:

1. I have already seen several riced out RSXs - full of stickers, farting exhaust tips, etc.
2. I've heard talk about the RSX being a superior car over its competition simply because "it's faster." They're the same people who worship Civics and Integras. The RSX and Celica are practically the same car.

There, hope you're happy now with the "ricer-wannabe" reference.

Funny you didn't seem to refute the rest of my argument. Nice nit-picking.

:rolleyes:

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by Dealer Xing
I do.


Accept the facts, guys.
Ditto

[iNteGraz92]

Originally posted by Diesel949X

Funny you didn't seem to refute the rest of my argument. Nice nit-picking.

:rolleyes:
no problem
:rolleyes:
:D